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Pro and Con 1909, reposted 5-23-16
Pro and Con 1910, posted 5-23-16
Pro and Con 1911, posted 5-23-16


By Marilyn Agee, 4-28-2016

Next Pentecost is Sivan 6, 5776, Sun. June 12, 2016, in the Jubilee Year that started Nisan 1, 5776, April 9, 2016, on the anniversary of Jesus' resurrection on Firstfruits, April 9, 30 AD.

The first Rapture was on Firstfruits, April 9, 30 AD. Jesus took the O.T. saints to heaven that day.

Enoch and Elijah are types of the two Raptures of the church, one for the wise virgins and one for the foolish virgins. Enoch was born and caught up to heaven on Sivan 6, Pentecost.

In Mark 13:23, Jesus said, "I have foretold you all things." That includes the timing of the Rapture.

Mt 24:35,36 does not apply to the Rapture. It says, "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. 36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only."

However, Mat_25:13 says, "Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh."


Rev. 3:3 says, "Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee."


As a picture of saints ascending to New Jerusalem, Israelite males were to go up to Jerusalem on three feast days.

Deu 16:16 says, "Three times in a year shall all thy males appear before the LORD thy God in the place which he shall choose; in the feast of unleavened bread, and in the feast of weeks (i.e., Pentecost), and in the feast of tabernacles".


The first Rapture was on Firstfruits, April 9, 30 AD, on the second day of Unleavened Bread, a 7-day feast. After his resurrection, Jesus took the Old Testament saints to heaven.

Joh 20:17 says, "Jesus saith unto her (i.e., Mary Magdalene), Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God."

Eph_4:8-10 says, "When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. 9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? 10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)"

That is when the elders were caught up to heaven. They are already there by the time of the second rapture.

Rev. 4:1-4 says, "After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter. 2 And immediately I was (lit., became) in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one (i.e., Jesus, the first and the last) sat on the throne. 3 And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone (i.e., the first and last stones in the breastplate): and there was a rainbow round about the throne (i.e., Saturn, the third heaven, Eze 1:1,26-28), in sight like unto an emerald (i.e., Judah's stone in the breastplate). 4 And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold."


1Th 4:16,17 says, "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."

We must be ready.

Mat 25:1-10 says, "Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom. 2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish. 3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil (i.e., symbol of the Holy Spirit) with them: 4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps. 5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept. 6 And at midnight (i.e., Mid-Trib) there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him. 7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps. 8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out (lit., going out). 9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves. 10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut."

Mt 24:32,33 say, "Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves (i.e., in June), ye know that summer is nigh (i.e., on June 21): 33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it (i.e., the Rapture) is near, even at the doors."

The wise virgins will not enter the Great Tribulation. They will be raptured just before the False Prophet is revealed Mid-Trib.

Rev 3:10-13 says, "Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation (i.e., the temptation to take the Mark of the Beast in the Great Tribulation), which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. 11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown. 12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God (i.e., probably the pillar called Boaz, meaning fleetness), and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name. 13 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches."

The second Rapture, probably on Pentecost, June 12, 2016, will be just before the False Prophet takes office Mid-Trib.

Barley is harvested by throwing it up in the air. Pentecost is the wheat harvest, and a tribulum is used to harvest wheat.

Rev 13:5-11 says, "And there was given unto him (i.e., the first beast, Antichrist) a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. (i.e., the first half of the Tribulation) 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and THEM THAT DWELL IN HEAVEN (i.e., the second Rapture takes place just before the False Prophet is revealed Mid-Trib). 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints (i.e., the foolish virgins that get left behind the first time), and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9 If any man have an ear, let him hear. 10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints. 11 And I beheld another beast (i.e., the Satan-possessed False Prophet) coming up out of the earth (i.e., Mid-Trib); and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon."

Blasphemy: "Pope Francis on Evolution and Creation: ‘God Is Not a Divine Being Or a Magician’" (

"When we read about Creation in Genesis, we run the risk of imagining God was a magician, with a magic wand able to do everything - but that is not so.

"He created human beings and let them develop according to the internal laws that he gave to each one so they would reach their fulfillment.

"He gave autonomy to the beings of the universe at the same time at which he assured them of his continuous presence, giving being to every reality, and so creation continued for centuries and centuries, millennia and millennia, until it became which we know today, precisely because God is not a demiurge or a magician, but the creator who gives being to all things.

"God is not a divine being or a magician, but the Creator who brought everything to life. Evolution in nature is not inconsistent with the notion of creation, because evolution requires the creation of beings that evolve."

Luke 13:6-9 says, "He (i.e., Jesus) spake also this parable; A certain man had a fig tree (i.e., Israel) planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none. 7 Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these THREE YEARS (i.e., referring to the first three years of the Tribulation which started when Francis was elected on 3-13-13) I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground? 8 And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it: 9 And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down."

Of Mid-Trib, Rev 12:6-12 says, "And the woman (i.e., Israel) fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place (i.e., Petra) prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days (i.e., during the Great Tribulation). 7 And there was war in heaven: MICHAEL and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now (arti, just now, i.e., Mid-Trib) is come salvation (soteria, rescue, i.e., the Mid-Trib Rapture), and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12 Therefore REJOICE, YE HEAVENS, AND YE THAT DWELL IN THEM. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time" (i.e., the shortened Great Tribulation).

Dan 12:1,2 says, "And at that time (i.e., Mid-Trib) shall MICHAEL stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. 2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt."


Mat 24:37 says, "But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be."

Noah went into the Ark on Iyar 17, then it rained 40 days. The Ark could have floated free of the ground on Pentecost. No other feast day falls within that 40-day period.

Rev 11:1-4 says, "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, RISE, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses (i.e., Moses and Elijah), and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days (i.e., during the Great Tribulation), clothed in sackcloth."

We are the temple of the Holy Spirit. The literal temple will be built after we are in heaven. Everything is ready, and the priests say they can build it in three months. They have been practicing. It will probably be built after Moses and Elijah arrive.


Isa_30:29 says, "Ye shall have a song, as in the night when a holy solemnity is kept; and gladness of heart, as when one goeth with a pipe to come into the mountain of the LORD, to the mighty One of Israel."


Son 2:10-13 says, "My beloved spake, and said unto me, Rise up, my love, my fair one, and come away. 11 For, lo, the winter is past, the rain is over and gone (i.e., Nisan is over); 12 The flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle (lit., turtledove) is heard in our land (i.e., they come in April and leave in October); 13 The fig tree putteth forth her GREEN FIGS (i.e., in June), and the vines with the TENDER GRAPE give a good smell (i.e., in June). Arise, my love, my fair one, and come away."


The last trump is blown on Tabernacles.

Moses and Elijah will be killed, resurrected and raptured.

Rev 11:11-13 says, "And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. 12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, COME UP HITHER. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. 13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven."

Rev 7:9 says, "After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands".

Rev 7:14-17 says, "These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them. 16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat. 17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes."

Mat 24:29-31 says, "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other."

Mar 13:23-27 says, "But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things. 24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, 25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. 26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. 27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the EARTH to the uttermost part of HEAVEN."

1Co 15:51-54 says, "Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory."

Rev 20:4 says, "And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years."

Exo 23:14-17 says, "Three times thou shalt keep a feast unto me in the year. 15 Thou shalt keep the feast of unleavened bread: (thou shalt eat unleavened bread seven days, as I commanded thee, in the time appointed of the month Abib (i.e., Nisan); for in it thou camest out from Egypt: and none shall appear before me empty:) 16 And the feast of harvest, the firstfruits of thy labours, which thou hast sown in the field: and the feast of ingathering, which is in the end of the year, when thou hast gathered in thy labours out of the field. 17 Three times in the year all thy males shall appear before the Lord GOD."

Luk 12:35-38 says, "Let your loins be girded about, and your lights burning; 36 And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, when he will return from the wedding; that when he cometh and knocketh, they may open unto him immediately. 37 Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them. 38 And if he shall come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants."

Psa 50:3-5 says, "Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him. 4 He shall call to the heavens from above, and to the earth, that he may judge his people. 5 Gather my saints together unto me; those that have made a covenant with me by sacrifice."


In the First Resurrection, there are three Raptures, of "barley" on Firstfruits in 30 AD, of "wheat" and "firstripe grapes" on Pentecost at Mid-Trib, and of fully ripe grapes on Tabernacles at the end of the Great Tribulation.


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