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THE SURPRISE MEANING OF THE TRANSFIGURATION
By Marilyn Agee, posted 8-15-16
The Transfiguration is a picture of the MID-TRIB RAPTURE when Moses and Elijah arrive on earth to prophesy 1260 days.
THIS IS BIG NEWS!
Of the Transfiguration, Mat 17:1-11 says, "And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and BRINGETH THEM UP (kata idios, up to his own home, i.e., to heaven) into an high mountain apart (i.e., to Saturn, the third heaven, Eze 1:1,26-28, 2Co 12:1-4), 2 And was transfigured (metamorphoo, changed) before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light. 3 And, BEHOLD, THERE APPEARED UNTO THEM MOSES AND ELIAS TALKING WITH HIM. 4 Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here THREE TABERNACLES; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias (i.e., when the Rapture takes place, the Feast of Tabernacles is near). 5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, THIS IS MY BELOVED SON, IN WHOM I AM WELL PLEASED; HEAR YE HIM. 6 And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face, and were sore afraid. 7 And JESUS CAME AND TOUCHED THEM, AND SAID, ARISE (egiro, rouse from death, lift up, i.e., in the Rapture), and be not afraid. 8 AND WHEN THEY HAD LIFTED UP THEIR EYES, THEY SAW NO MAN, SAVE JESUS ONLY (i.e., Moses and Elijah had gone to dwell on Earth during the Great Tribulation). 9 And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead. 10 And his disciples asked him, saying, WHY THEN SAY THE SCRIBES THAT ELIAS MUST FIRST COME? 11 And Jesus answered and said unto them, ELIAS TRULY SHALL FIRST COME, and restore all things" (i.e., including the Temple).
"THIS IS MY BELOVED SON: HEAR HIM"
Mar 9:1-8 tells the same story. It says, "Verily (amen, so be it) I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen THE KINGDOM OF GOD come with power. 2 And after six days (i.e., 6000 years) Jesus taketh with him Peter, and James, and John, and leadeth them up into an high mountain (i.e., representing Heaven) apart by themselves: and he was transfigured before them. 3 And his raiment became shining, exceeding white as snow; so as no fuller on earth can white them. 4 And there appeared unto them ELIAS WITH MOSES: and they were talking with Jesus. 5 And Peter answered and said to Jesus, Master, it is good for us to be here: and let us make three tabernacles (i.e., the Feast of Tabernacles is close); one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias. 6 For he wist not what to say; for they were sore afraid. 7 And there was a cloud that overshadowed them: and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, THIS IS MY BELOVED SON: HEAR HIM. 8 And suddenly, when they had looked round about, they saw no man any more, save Jesus only with themselves."
"THIS IS MY BELOVED SON: HEAR HIM"
Luk 9:27-36 says, "But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, TILL THEY SEE THE KINGDOM OF GOD. And it came to pass about an eight days after these sayings, he took Peter and John and James, and went up into a mountain to pray. 29 And as he prayed, the fashion of his countenance was altered, and his raiment was white and glistering (exastripto, radiant, glistening). 30 And, behold, there talked with him two men, which were MOSES AND ELIAS: 31 Who appeared in GLORY, and spake of his decease which he should accomplish at Jerusalem. 32 But Peter and they that were with him were heavy with sleep: and when they were awake, they saw his glory, and the two men that stood with him. 33 And it came to pass, as they departed from him, Peter said unto Jesus, Master, it is good for us to be here: and let us make three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias: not knowing what he said. 34 While he thus spake, there came a cloud, and overshadowed them: and they feared as they entered into the cloud. 35 And there came a voice out of the cloud, saying, "THIS IS MY BELOVED SON: HEAR HIM". 36 And when the voice was past, Jesus was found alone. And they kept it close, and told no man in those days any of those things which they had seen."
Joh 1:14 says, "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."
2 Peter 1:16-18 says, "For we did not follow cunningly devised fables when we made known to you the power and COMING (parousia, advent, return, presence (i.e., the coming at the time of the Rapture) of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. For he received from God the Father honor and glory when such a voice came to him from the excellent glory: ‘This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.' And we heard this voice which came from HEAVEN when we were with Him on the HOLY MOUNTAIN" (i.e., in Heaven).
Mal 4:5,6 says, "Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD: 6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse."
The First-Trump Rapture is the "COME UP HITHER" of Rev 4:1. There is no earthquake.
In Rev 10:11, John was told, "Thou must prophesy AGAIN before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings."
The next thing he wrote was Rev 11:1-4. It says, "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, RISE (i.e., in the Mid-Trib Rapture), and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. 3 And I will give power unto my TWO WITNESSES (i.e., Moses and Elijah), and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days (i.e., during the Great Tribulation), clothed in sackcloth. 4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth."
The Last-Trump Rapture is the "COME UP HITHER" of Rev 11:12. It takes place three and a half days after Moses and Elijah are killed.
Rev 11:8-13 says, "And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. 9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves. 10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth. 11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. 12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, COME UP HITHER. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. 13 And the same hour was there A GREAT EARTHQUAKE, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven."
MOSES AND ELIJAH STOOD BY JESUS WHEN HE ASCENDED, BECAUSE THEY WILL STAND BY JESUS WHEN WE ASCEND
Act 1:9-11 says, "And when he (i.e., Jesus) had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. 10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men (i.e., Moses and Elijah) stood by them in white apparel; 11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? THIS SAME JESUS, WHICH IS TAKEN UP FROM YOU INTO HEAVEN, SHALL SO COME IN LIKE MANNER AS YE HAVE SEEN HIM GO INTO HEAVEN."
THE PREVIEW OF THE RAPTURE
Rev 1:9-11 says, "I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. 10 I was (lit., became) in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, 11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega".
Rev_1:14 says, "His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire".
THE SIGN OF REVELATION 12 WILL BE IN THE SKY AT THE TIME OF THE RAPTURE
Rev 12:1-12 says, "And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: 2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. 3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. 4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. 5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. 6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. 7 And there was war in heaven: MICHAEL and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now (arti, JUST NOW, THIS DAY) is come salvation (soteria, rescue, deliverance, i.e., the Rapture), and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time."
Dan 12:1 says, "And at that time shall MICHAEL stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered (malat, escape, leap out), every one that shall be found written in the book."
HERE IS THE SHOCKER: THE SIGN OF REV. 12 WILL BE IN THE SKY ON THE FEAST OF TRUMPETS, OCTOBER 3, 2016
The Moon will be directly under Virgo's feet. Venus will be under the Moon.
WILL THAT BE THE DAY OF OUR RAPTURE? IT SEEMS LIKELY; THIS IS STILL THE JUBILEE YEAR.
2Th 2:1-13 says, "Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away (A DEPARTURE) first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth".
ON KOENIG'S INTERNATIONAL NEWS 8-15-16
"It's time to build," reads the tagline of the Temple Institute's latest YouTube video."
We seem to be in the ballpark. The Rapture may take place on the Mid-Trib Feast of Trumpets, Oct. 3, 2016.
POSSIBLE DAY OF THE RAPTURE
By Marilyn Agee, posted 7-27-16
I am excited. I have good news.
Look at Rev 12. What is seen in the heavens when the Rapture is taking place?
THE SIGN IN VIRGO, THE MOON WILL BE UNDER HER FEET AT THE TIME OF THE RAPTURE (HARPAZO)
Rev 12:1-5 says, "And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman (i.e., Virgo) clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: 2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. 3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. 4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. 5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was CAUGHT UP (HARPAZO, i.e., raptured) unto God, and to his throne."
MID-TRIB RAPTURE WHEN MICHAEL STANDS UP
Rev 12:6-14 says, "And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days (i.e., during the Great Tribulation). 7 And there was war in heaven: MICHAEL and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now (arti, just now, this day) is come salvation (malat, escape, leap out), and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. 13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child (i.e., Mid-Trib). 14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time (i.e., 3 1/2 years), from the face of the serpent."
Dan 12:1 says, "And at that time (i.e., Mid-Trib) shall MICHAEL stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be (i.e., afterward) a time of trouble (i.e., the Great Tribulation), such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and AT THAT TIME THY PEOPLE SHALL BE DELIVERED (malat, escape, leap out), EVERY ONE THAT SHALL BE FOUND WRITTEN IN THE BOOK."
1Th 4:16,17 says, "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up (HARPAZO, i.e., raptured) together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."
Rev 2:26-29 says, "And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: 27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father. 28 And I WILL GIVE HIM THE MORNING STAR. 29 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches."
THAT SIGN WILL BE IN THE SKY OCTOBER 3, 2016
I went to http://www.fourmilab.ch/yoursky/
I set the "city" to Jerusalem and the "date" to Oct. 3, 2016, at 15:10:00,
changed the color to black on white and hit "Update".
Here is the result printed at the top:
"Sky above 31°46'48"N 35°13'12"E at Mon 2016 Oct 3 15:10 UTC"
Looking at the diagram: the sign in Rev. 12 is perfect on Oct. 3, 2016.
Virgo is clothed with the Sun, and the Moon is right under her feet.
Venus is directly under the Moon too. That makes the crescent Moon easy to find.
Saturn is in Ophiuchus, represented as a man (i.e., Christ) grasping the snake (i.e., Satan) that is represented by the constellation Serpens, keeping it from reaching Corona Borealis, the crown. That is perfect too.
SURPRISE! OCTOBER 3, 2016 IS THE FEAST OF TRUMPETS
I went to the Hebrew Date Converter.
"1st of Tishrei, 5777 = Mon, 3 October 2016"
OCT. 3, 2016 JUST MIGHT BE THE DAY OF THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE
Oct. 3, 2016 is the Feast of Trumpets, and the Jubilee Year lasts until next Nisan 1, 5777. "1st of Nisan, 5777 = Tue, 28 March 2017"
Mat 24:32-34 says, "Now learn a parable of the fig tree (i.e., Israel); When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves (i.e., June 5-10, 1967), ye know that summer (June 21) is nigh: 33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. 34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled."
According to my calculation from Mt. 1:17, a generation is 48.33 years, a ballpark figure.
June 6, 1967 to Oct. 3, 2016 is 18017 days, or 49.37 years.
OCTOBER 3, 2016 LOOKS LIKE A WINNER
That will be in the Jubilee Year too. If you were making plans before the world began, wouldn't you put the Rapture in the Jubilee Year?
SATURN, A FIXTURE OF THE EVENING SKY UNTIL OCTOBER 2016
"June 2, 2016 - according to clocks in North America, our planet Earth will fly between the ringed planet Saturn and the sun, bringing Saturn to what astronomers call opposition. In other words, Saturn is opposite the sun now. This is a big milestone for our year of observing the ringed planet! We go between Saturn and the sun on June 3 at 0700 UTC. For the Americas, that places Saturn's opposition on June 3 at 3 a.m. EDT, 2 a.m. CDT, 1 a.m. MDT and midnight PDT....
"So this is Saturn's special day, its yearly opposition, when Saturn is opposite the sun in Earth's sky. As a consequence, Saturn rises in the east at sunset, climbs highest up for the night at midnight and sets in the west at sunrise. It is visible all night, closest and brightest for this year....
"Saturn will remain a fixture of the evening sky until October 2016."
THE MORNING STAR
Rev 2:26-29 says, "And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: 27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father. 28 And I will give him THE MORNING STAR. 29 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches."
SATURN IS IN THE CONSTELLATION OF OPHIUCHUS
"Currently, we can find Saturn, Heaven, in the nonzodiacal constellation of Ophiuchus, the Serpent Holder. It has resided there since Nov. 30, 2015, and will remain there until Feb. 23, 2017, when it will briefly cross over into Sagittarius. But as Earth's overtakes Saturn, the planet will appear to swirl backward in a retrograde loop, returning to Ophiuchus, where it will stay until mid-November 2017 - nearly two years after it first arrived....
"Mars will eventually catch up with Saturn on August 24, 2016, to present a conjunction of these two worlds in the August evening sky."
"In mid-October, Saturn will drop progressively closer to the sun and will become increasingly difficult to see, finally fading to invisibility within the ever-brightening evening twilight glow during the first days of November. The sun itself treads through this region of the sky in early December. Saturn will then go unseen until it struggles back into view in the MORNING skies of January of next year."
"Mercury, Venus and Saturn visible in the Nov/Dec morning sky"
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