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"IN THE TIME OF TROUBLE, HE SHALL HIDE ME IN HIS PAVILION"

By Marilyn Agee, updated 5-22-15

To me, that scripture means that the First-Trump Rapture will be Mid-Trib.

Scripture doesn't say that before the time of trouble he shall hide me in his pavilion, as if the Rapture was before the Tribulation. It says, "IN THE TIME OF TROUBLE (i.e., MID TRIB) HE SHALL HIDE ME IN HIS PAVILION: IN THE SECRET OF HIS TABERNACLE (i.e., that the Holy of Holies represents Heaven) SHALL HE HIDE ME; HE SHALL SET ME UP UPON A ROCK" (Psa 27:5).

Psa 118:5 says, "I called upon the LORD in distress: the LORD answered me, and set me in a large place."

THAT ROCK IS THE THIRD HEAVEN

2Co 12:2-4 says, "I knew a man in Christ (i.e., Paul himself, he didn't want to boast) above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. (1. Mars, 2. Jupiter and 3. Saturn) 3 And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) 4 How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter."

HERE IS A LIST OF SCRIPTURES THAT TELL THE STORY SO MANY HAVE MISSED, THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE IS IN THE TIME OF TROUBLE, MID-TRIB

The First-Trump Rapture of I Thess 4:16,17 is Mid-Trib. The Last-Trump Rapture of I Cor 15:51-54 is on the Day of the Lord, the Day of God's Wrath, at the end of the Great Tribulation.

2Ki 19:3 says, "This day is A DAY OF TROUBLE, and of rebuke, and blasphemy: for the children are come to the birth, and there is not strength to bring forth."

Isa_37:3 says, "Thus saith Hezekiah, This day is A DAY OF TROUBLE, and of rebuke, and of blasphemy: for the children are come to the birth, and there is not strength to bring forth."

Jer_14:8 says, "O the hope of Israel, THE SAVIOUR THEREOF IN TIME OF TROUBLE".

Psa 37:39,40 says, "But the salvation (teshuah, rescue, deliverance) of the righteous is of the LORD: he is their strength IN THE TIME OF TROUBLE. 40 And the LORD shall help them, and deliver (palat, carry away safe) them: he shall deliver them FROM THE WICKED (i.e., the Antichrist), and save them, because they trust in him."

Psa_41:1 says, "Blessed is he that considereth the poor: the LORD will deliver (malat, escape, leap out, i.e., rapture) him IN TIME OF TROUBLE."

Psa_50:15 says, "And call upon me IN THE DAY OF TROUBLE: I will deliver (chalats, draw out, take away, cause to depart) thee, and thou shalt glorify me."

Psa_91:15 says, "He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him IN TROUBLE; I will deliver (chalats, draw out, take away, cause to depart) him, and honour him."

THE LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE IS ON THE DAY OF THE LORD AT THE END OF THE GREAT TRIBULATION

Dan_12:1 says, "And at that time (i.e., Mid-Trib) shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be (i.e., following the Great Tribulation) A TIME OF TROUBLE, SUCH AS NEVER WAS SINCE THERE WAS A NATION EVEN TO THAT SAME TIME: AND AT THAT TIME THY PEOPLE SHALL BE DELIVERED, EVERY ONE THAT SHALL BE FOUND WRITTEN IN THE BOOK."

Rev 6:17 says, "For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?"

Rev 7:14 says, "These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb."

Rev 12:6-12 says, "And the woman (i.e., Israel) fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place (i.e., Petra) prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days (i.e., during the Great Tribulation). 7 And there was war in heaven (i.e., Mid-Trib): Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now (i.e., Mid-Trib) is come salvation (soteria, rescue, deliverance, i.e., the First-Trump Rapture), and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time" (i.e., the Great Tribulation).

Isa_33:2 says, "O LORD, be gracious unto us; we have waited for thee: be thou their arm every morning, our salvation also IN THE TIME OF TROUBLE."

Jer_14:8 says, "O the hope of Israel, the saviour thereof IN TIME OF TROUBLE, why shouldest thou be as a stranger in the land, and as a wayfaring man that turneth aside to tarry for a night?"

THE MID-TRIB RAPTURE IS TAUGHT IN SCRIPTURE

Psa 34:17-22 says, "The righteous cry, and the LORD heareth, and delivereth (natsal, snatch away, take out, i.e., raptures) them out of all their TROUBLES. 18 The LORD is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit. 19 Many are the afflictions of the righteous: but the LORD delivereth (natsal, snatch away, take out, i.e., raptures) him out of them all. 20 He keepeth all his bones: not one of them is broken. 21 Evil shall slay the wicked: and they that hate the righteous shall be desolate. 22 The LORD redeemeth the soul of his servants: and none of them that trust in him shall be desolate."

Psa 37:39,40 says, "But the salvation (teshuah, rescue) of the righteous is of the LORD: he is their strength IN THE TIME OF TROUBLE. 40 And the LORD shall help them, and deliver (palat, escape, carry away safe) them: he shall deliver (palat, carry away) them from the wicked, and save (yasha, rescue) them, because they trust in him."

Jer_14:8 says, "O the hope of Israel, the saviour thereof IN TIME OF TROUBLE, why shouldest thou be as a stranger in the land, and as a wayfaring man that turneth aside to tarry for a night?"

Dan 12:6,7 says, "And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders? 7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half (i.e., 3.5 years); and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the HOLY PEOPLE (i.e., including the Antichrist and False Prophet), all these things shall be finished."

THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE TAKES PLACE MID-TRIB, AND THERE IS NO EARTHQUAKE, THE LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE TAKES PLACE AT THE END OF THE GREAT TRIBULATION, AND THERE IS A GREAT EARTHQUAKE

There is a great earthquake that day, because of the impact of the mountain-sized asteroid impact in the Mediterranean Sea (Rev 8:8) plus the impact of Satan's asteroid Wormwood at Babylon (Rev 8:11).

Rev 4:1 says, "After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, COME UP HITHER (i.e., the First-Trump Rapture), and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter."

Rev 10:11 says, "And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings."

Therefore, the "COME UP HITHER" of Rev. 4:1 is the same as the "RISE" of Rev. 11:1, AND IT IS MID-TRIB

Rev 11:1-3 says, "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, RISE (i.e., the First-Trump Rapture of I Thess 4:16,17), and measure the temple of God (i.e., we are the temple of the Holy Spirit), and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months (i.e., the Great Tribulation). 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses (i.e., Moses and Elijah), and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days (i.e., during the Great Tribulation), clothed in sackcloth."

Rev 11:12,13 says, "And they (i.e., Moses and Elijah) heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, COME UP HITHER (i.e., the Last-Trump Rapture of I Cor 15:51-54). And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. 13 And the same hour was there a great EARTHQUAKE, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven."

Rev 6:17 says, "For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?"

Rev 7:14 says, "These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb."

Rev. 3:10 says, "Because thou hast kept the word of my patience (hupomone, cheerful, hopeful, endurance), I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation (peirasmos, adversity, putting to proof, probably the Mark of the Beast), which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth."

Isa 33:2 says, "O LORD, be gracious unto us; we have waited for thee: be thou their arm every morning, our salvation (yeshuah, salvation, i.e., Jesus) also IN THE TIME OF TROUBLE."

Isa 26:20-21 says, "Come, my people (i.e., the 144,000 Israelites of Rev. 7), enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation (i.e., the impact of Satan's asteroid Wormwood) be overpast. For, behold, the Lord cometh out of His place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain."

THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE IN THE SPRING, WHEN "THE SOUR GRAPE IS RIPENING IN THE FLOWER"

Isa 18:3-6 says, "All ye inhabitants of the world, and dwellers on the earth, see ye, when he lifteth up an ensign (i.e., the UN flag) on the mountains (i.e., countries); and when he bloweth a trumpet, hear ye. 4 For so the LORD said unto me, I will take my rest, and I will consider in my dwelling place like a clear heat upon herbs, and like a cloud of dew in the heat of harvest. 5 For afore the harvest, when the bud is perfect, and the sour grape is ripening in the flower, he shall both cut off the sprigs with pruning hooks, and take away and cut down the branches. 6 They shall be left together unto the fowls of the mountains, and to the beasts of the earth: and the fowls shall summer upon them, and all the beasts of the earth shall winter upon them."

THE SECRET OF THE STAIRS IN THE SPRING

Song of Solomon 2:10-17 says, "My beloved spake, and said unto me, RISE UP, MY LOVE, MY FAIR ONE, AND COME AWAY. 11 For, lo, the winter is past, the rain (i.e., of Nisan) is over and gone; (i.e.,it is in THE SPRING) 12 The flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle (lit., turtledove, they come in April and leave in October) is heard in our land; 13 The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell. ARISE, MY LOVE, MY FAIR ONE, AND COME AWAY. 14 O my dove, that art in the clefts of the rock (i.e., in Christ), IN THE SECRET places OF THE STAIRS, let me see thy countenance, let me hear thy voice; for sweet is thy voice, and thy countenance is comely. 15 Take us the foxes, the little foxes, that spoil the vines: for our vines have tender grapes. 16 My beloved is mine, and I am his: he feedeth among the lilies. 17 Until the day break, and the shadows flee away, turn, my beloved, and be thou like a roe or a young hart upon the mountains (i.e., there are two Raptures) of Bether (i.e., separation)."

THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE SAINTS ARE IN HEAVEN 42 MONTHS AFTER THE FIRST BEAST COMES TO POWER

Rev 13:4-6 says, "And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast (i.e., Antichrist), saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? 5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and BLASPHEMIES; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months (i.e., until Mid-Trib). 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and THEM THAT DWELL IN HEAVEN" (i.e., the wise virgins).

After the first Rapture, the first beast, the Antichrist, turns to make war with the unwise virgins left behind.

Rev 13:7-9 says, "And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9 If any man have an ear, let him hear."

All this is before the False Prophet comes up in Rev. 13:11. He will rule during the shortened Great Tribulation.

Rev 13:11,12 says, "And I beheld ANOTHER BEAST (i.e., Satan) coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns (i.e., two comings) like a lamb (Christ), and he spake as a dragon. 12 And he (i.e., the Satan-possessed False Prophet) exerciseth all the power of the first beast (i.e., the Antichrist) before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed."

Mat 24:31-34 says, "And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of HEAVEN to the other. 32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree (i.e., Israel); When his branch (i.e., modern Israel) is yet tender (apalos, young), and putteth forth leaves (i.e., in the Six-Day War), ye know that summer is nigh: 33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it (i.e., the Rapture) is near, even at the doors (i.e., there are two Raptures). 34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled."

June, 1967 + a generation, 48.33 (Mt 1:17) = Sept., 2015.33.

We are nearing the end. The Great Tribulation is to be shortened. Maybe the First-Trump Rapture will take place in the spring and the Last-Trump Rapture take place in the fall of this year. The last Total Lunar Eclipse of this last tetrad of our days will be next fall.

Mar 13:24-30 says, "But in those days, AFTER THAT TRIBULATION, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, 25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. 26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. 27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth (i.e., the Last-Trump Rapture) to the uttermost part of heaven (i.e., the First-Trump Rapture group that is already in heaven). 28 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When her branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is near: 29 So ye in like manner, when ye shall see these things come to pass, know that it is nigh, even at the doors. 30 Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done."

Luk 21:29-36 says, "And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees; 30 When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand. 31 So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand. 32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled. 33 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. 34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. 35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. 36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape (ekpheugo, flee out, i.e., be raptured) all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man."

Rev 14:14-19 says, "And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. 15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe (i.e., this is the Last-Trump Rapture). 16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped. 17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle. 18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe. 19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God."

THERE ARE TWO RAPTURES, THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE OF I THESS 4:16,17 AND THE LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE OF I COR 15:51-54

2Th 2:1-4 says, "Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by OUR GATHERING TOGETHER UNTO HIM (i.e., at the First-Trump Rapture), 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ (i.e., Day of the Lord in our oldest MSS, Vatican Codex, Siniatic Codex and Augustinian Codex) is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day (i.e., the Day of the Lord) shall not come, except there come a falling away (i.e., DEPARTURE, the First-Trump Rapture) first, and that man of sin be revealed (i.e., Mid-Trib), the son of perdition (i.e., the Satan-possessed False Prophet). 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God."

2Th 2:7-11 says, "For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he (i.e., the Holy Spirit) who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way (i.e., at the First-Trump Rapture). 8 And then (i.e., Mid-Trib) shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie".

PENTECOST, THE FEAST OF WEEKS, THE TWO WAVE LOAVES THAT ARE THE FIRSTFRUITS UNTO THE LORD

Lev 23:17 says, "Ye shall BRING OUT OF YOUR HABITATIONS two wave loaves of two tenth deals: they shall be of fine flour; they shall be baken with leaven; they are the FIRSTFRUITS unto the LORD."

Since there were two firstfruit offerings that day, there could be two fulfillments of the Feast of Pentecost. Since the firstfruits were brought "OUT OF YOUR HABITATIONS", it might represent the Firstfruit Rapture on Pentecost.

Boaz had been winnowing barley the night Ruth lay at his feet (Ruth 3:2). Ruth and Boaz were married near Pentecost.

Exo_34:22 says, "And thou shalt observe the feast of weeks (i.e., Pentecost), of the firstfruits of wheat harvest".

Exo_34:26 says, "The first of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring unto the house of the LORD thy God."

Mat 13:30 says, "Let both (i.e., wheat and tares) grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn."

WHAT KIND OF FIRSTFRUITS ARE WE?

Jas_1:18 Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures."

1Co_15:23 says, "But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits (i.e., Mid-Trib); afterward they that are Christ's at his coming" (i.e., on the Day of the Lord at the end of the Great Tribulation).

THOSE CAUGHT UP IN THE SECOND RAPTURE ARE ALSO CALLED FIRSTFRUITS

Rev_14:1-4 says, "And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads. 2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: 3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. 4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb."

THE FIRST RAPTURE

Enoch is said to have been born and raptured on Pentecost. The church was born on Pentecost. Will the wise virgins be caught up to Heaven on Pentecost?

THE LAST RAPTURE WILL BE ON THE DAY OF THE LORD

Psa 118:20-23 says, "This gate of the LORD, into which the righteous shall enter. 21 I will praise thee: for thou hast heard me, and art become my salvation. 22 The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner. 23 This is the LORD'S doing; it is marvellous in our eyes."

The head stone of the corner of the Pyramid of Giza will be 5776 inches tall when installed. To me, it suggests that Jesus will be King of kings in 5776.

I NOW BELIEVE IN THE MID-TRIB RAPTURE

By Marilyn Agee, Posted 8-4-14

MY REPLY TO A POST ON FIVE DOVES,
Pastor Bob(27 July 2014) "Absence of Proof is Not Proof of Absence"

I have been enjoying your posts. As they say, "Iron sharpens iron." I can learn from you and hopefully, you can learn something from me. We have both studied lots. Let's put our heads together.

WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO PROVE: A PRE-TRIB RAPTURE
(WHICH I BELIEVED IN UNTIL LATELY

> > the Bible offers us many sound reasons showing why the Rapture is prior to the Tribulation.

WHAT I AM TRYING TO PROVE: TWO RAPTURES, ONE MID-TRIB ON THE DAY OF CHRIST, THE OTHER AT THE END OF THE TRIBULATION, ON THE DAY OF THE LORD, THE DAY OF GOD'S WRATH

You probably never noticed the following before. It is hidden pretty good. It sure took me a long time to figure out what it meant.

REV. 1:9 IS THE PREVIEW OF THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE, WHICH IS "IN TRIBULATION"

Rev 1:9-11 says, "I John, who also am your brother, and companion "IN TRIBULATION", and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos (meaning mortal), for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. 10 I was (lit., became) in the Spirit on the Lord's day (i.e., the first Rapture, as in Rev. 4:1, the Day of the Lord Jesus Christ), and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, 11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last"...

Note: I now understand exactly what becoming "in the Spirit" means. Ed (my husband that died Dec. 27, 2011) came to see me in his Celestial Body on the following April 2. He was "in the Spirit." Everything seemed normal except he didn't touch me and walked through the wall after answering my questions.

THE SCENE IN HEAVEN

Rev 1:12-18 says, "And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks (i.e., the First-Trump Rapture just took place, John, one of the elders, is in Heaven, so are the elect of all seven church groups; 13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, (i.e., Jesus) clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle (indicating deity). 14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. 16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength. 17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first (i.e., LORD of the Old Testament) and the last (i.e., Lord of the New Testament): 18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death."

Rev_2:10 says, "Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life."

Rev 4:1 says, "After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a TRUMPET talking with me; which said, COME UP HITHER".

Rev 10:11 says, "And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy AGAIN before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings."

Therefore, the "RISE" in Rev. 11:1 is the same as the "COME UP HITHER" of Rev. 4:1. That is the First-Trump Rapture. It takes place Mid-Trib. Following it, the two witnesses prophesy 1260 days. Then they are killed, resurrected and hear "COME UP HITHER" in Rev. 11:12. That is the Last-Trump Rapture.

THE TWO RAPTURES BRACKET THE GREAT TRIBULATION

1Co 15:20-24 says, "But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. 21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits (i.e.,those raised at the first Rapture); afterward they that are Christ's at his coming (i.e., those raised at the second Rapture). 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power."

FIRST RAPTURE: MID-TRIB, DAY OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST

1Co 1:8 says, "Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ."

1Co 5:5 says, "To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus."

2Co_1:14 says, "As also ye have acknowledged us in part, that we are your rejoicing, even as ye also are ours in the day of the Lord Jesus."

Php_1:10 says, "That ye may approve things that are excellent; that ye may be sincere and without offence till the day of Christ".

Php_2:16 says, "Holding forth the word of life; that I may rejoice in the day of Christ, that I have not run in vain, neither laboured in vain."

The First-Trump Rapture is in I Thess. 4:13-18. The Last-Trump Rapture is in I Cor. 15:51-54. The first is Mid-Trib. The last is on the great and terrible DAY OF THE LORD, THE DAY OF GOD'S WRATH.

Rev 6:17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?"

Rev 7:9-14 says, "After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; 10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb. 11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God, 12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen. 13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? 14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, THESE ARE THEY WHICH CAME OUT OF GREAT TRIBULATION, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb."

SECOND RAPTURE: DAY OF THE LORD, DAY OF DESTRUCTION, THE "LAST DAY"

Joh 6:44 says, "No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day."

Joh 6:54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day."

Act_2:20 says, "The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come".

1Th_5:2 says, "For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night."

2Pe 3:5-7 says, "For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: 7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men."

2Pe_3:10 says, "But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up."

2Pe 3:12 says, "Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?"

Isa_2:12 says, "For the day of the LORD of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low:"

Isa_13:6 says, "Howl ye; for the day of the LORD is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty."

Isa_13:9 says, "Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it."

Isa_34:8 says, "For it is the day of the LORD'S vengeance, and the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion."

Jer_46:10 says, "For this is the day of the Lord GOD of hosts, a day of vengeance, that he may avenge him of his adversaries: and the sword shall devour, and it shall be satiate and made drunk with their blood: for the Lord GOD of hosts hath a sacrifice in the north country by the river Euphrates."

Lam_2:22 says, "Thou hast called as in a solemn day my terrors round about, so that in the day of the LORD'S anger none escaped nor remained: those that I have swaddled and brought up hath mine enemy consumed."

Eze_13:5 says, "Ye have not gone up into the gaps, neither made up the hedge for the house of Israel to stand in the battle in the day of the LORD."

Eze_30:3 says, "For the day is near, even the day of the LORD is near, a cloudy day; it shall be the time of the heathen."

Joe_1:15 says, "Alas for the day! for the day of the LORD is at hand, and as a destruction from the Almighty shall it come."

Joe_2:1 says, "Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand".

Joe_2:11 says, "And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word: for the day of the LORD is great and very terrible; and who can abide it?".

Joe_2:31 says, "The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come."

Joe_3:14 says, "Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision."

Amo_5:18 says, "Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light."

Amo_5:20 says, "Shall not the day of the LORD be darkness, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it?"

Oba_1:15 says, "For the day of the LORD is near upon all the heathen: as thou hast done, it shall be done unto thee: thy reward shall return upon thine own head."

Zep_1:7,8 says, "Hold thy peace at the presence of the Lord GOD: for the day of the LORD is at hand: for the LORD hath prepared a sacrifice, he hath bid his guests. 8 And it shall come to pass in the day of the LORD'S sacrifice, that I will punish the princes, and the king's children, and all such as are clothed with strange apparel."

Zep_1:14 says, "The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly."

Zep_1:18 says, "Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them in the day of the LORD'S wrath; but the whole land shall be devoured by the fire of his jealousy: for he shall make even a speedy riddance of all them that dwell in the land."

Zep_2:2 says, "Before the decree bring forth, before the day pass as the chaff, before the fierce anger of the LORD come upon you, before the day of the LORD'S anger come upon you."

Zep_2:3,4 says, "Seek ye the LORD, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be ye shall be hid (sathar, be absent, i.e., raptured) in the day of the LORD'S anger. 4 For Gaza shall be forsaken, and Ashkelon a desolation: they shall drive out Ashdod at the noon day, and Ekron shall be rooted up."

Zec_14:1 says, "Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee."

Mal_4:5 says, "Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD".

2Pe_3:12 says, "Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?"

Rev_16:14 says, "For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty."

The first Total Lunar Eclipse of the last tetrad for 500 years was April 15, 2014. Mid-Trib may not be far away. I was thinking maybe this next Feast of Trumpets could be the Rapture, but ye shall have Tribulation ten days might make the Day of Atonement look good.

ELIJAH WILL ASCEND IN THE FINAL RAPTURE ON THE DAY OF THE LORD

Rev 11:11-13 says, " And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. 12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. 13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven."

I USED TO BELIEVE IN A PRE-TRIB RAPTURE

From the 1960s to recently, I too thought the First-Trump Rapture of I Thess. 4:13-18 would be Pre-Trib. I read books out of the Seminary Collection at BIOLA for 7 years, so you know what I thought about the Rapture in those days.

When I got a computer, I found Dr. Thomas Ice's Pre-Trib Research Center. I agreed with what he said about the Pre-Trib Rapture. He too came out of Dallas Theological Seminary, as did others that teach the Pre-Trib Rapture. I went to hear R.B. Thieme preach. I borrowed tapes from Berachah Church and from my own church at the time, Rolling Hills Covenant, when Chuck Swindoll was pastor. I wanted to learn as much as possible about the Bible and the upcoming Rapture.

I read what Thomas Ice said about Ephraem the Syrian (who lived from A.D. 306 to 373). Ephraem said that the saints "are gathered, prior to the tribulation that is to come, and are taken to the Lord", but was Ephraem right? What if it is prior to the Great Tribulation. That word "Great" makes 3.5 years difference.

I now think that the First-Trump Rapture of I Thess. 4:13-18 could take place 10 days into the Great Tribulation, which is the latter half of the 7-yr. Tribulation.

THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE (WE CAN'T HAVE A LAST TRUMP UNLESS WE HAVE A FIRST TRUMP)

1Th 4:13-18 says, "But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent (phthano, precede) them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with THE TRUMP of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words."

THE LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE

1Co 15:51-54 says, "Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at THE LAST TRUMP: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory."

Rev. 6:17 and 7:9-15 says, "For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?" 9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; 10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb. 11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God. 12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen. 13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? 14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of GREAT TRIBULATION, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 Therefore are they before the throne of God".

In Against Heresies, Book V, Chapter 29.1, Irenaus said, "And therefore, when in the end (i.e., Mid-Trib) the Church shall be suddenly caught up from this, it is said, There shall be (i.e., after the Rapture) tribulation such as has not been since the beginning (i.e., the Great Tribulation), neither shall be. Matthew 24:21 For this is the last contest of the righteous, in which, when they overcome they are crowned with incorruption" (i.e., after the Great Tribulation).

There are "righteous" Philadelphians in the first 3.5 years of the Tribulation. There are "righteous" Laodiceans in the Great Tribulation, the last 3.5 years. They have washed their robes in the blood of Christ and made them white.

Those wearing white at Mid-Trib will be caught up near Mid-Trib. Those who wash their robes in the blood of Christ after that will be caught up on the Great Day of God's Wrath.

Rev 6:12 says, "And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood".

Rev 6:17 says, "For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

Rev 7:9-15 says, "After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; Rev 7:10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb. 11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God, 12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen. 13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? 14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of GREAT TRIBULATION, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 says, "Therefore are they before the throne of God".

These are in Heaven before the 7th seal is broken.

Joh 6:39 says, "And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day."

Joh 6:44 says, "No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day."

Rev 8:1,2 says, "And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour. 2 And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets."

Rev 10:11 says, "Thou must prophesy AGAIN before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings."

Therefore, the "Rise" in Rev 11:1 is the same as the "Come up hither" of Rev. 4:1.

This Rapture is when God's two witnesses, Moses and Elijah, arrive on earth. At the end of the 42 months of the Great Tribulation, Moses and Elijah will be killed. After 3.5 more days, they will be resurrected and ascend to Heaven when the Lord says, "Come up hither" in verse 12. That is the second Rapture.

The "same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell." That does not happen at the first Rapture.

Act 2:19-21 says, "And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke: 20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come: 21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved."

THOSE "CAUGHT UP UNTO GOD" MID-TRIB WILL NOT HAVE TO FLEE TO PETRA

Rev 12:1-10 says, "And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman (i.e., Virgo) clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet (i.e., the Moon will be under her feet Sept. 27, 2014), and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: 2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. 4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth (i.e., the fallen angels are cast out of Heaven Mid-Trib): and the dragon stood before the woman (i.e., Israel) which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. 5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. 6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place (i.e., Petra) prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. 7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, NOW is come salvation (soteria, rescue, deliverance, i.e., the First-Trump Rapture), and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night."

WE MUST BE CALLED, AND CHOSEN, AND FAITHFUL

Rev 17:11-14 says, "And the beast (i.e., Satan) that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition (i.e., he goes into the False Prophet, the second son of perdition, Judas Iscariot was the first). 12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast (i.e., the Satan-possessed False Prophet). 13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. 14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and THEY THAT ARE WITH HIM (i.e., the Philadelphians) ARE CALLED, AND CHOSEN, AND FAITHFUL."

Mat 22:12-14 says, "And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless. (i.e., like the Laodicean, he thought he had it made)13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 14 For MANY ARE CALLED, BUT FEW ARE CHOSEN."

Luk 12:46 says, "The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion (i.e., the Great Tribulation) with the unbelievers."

Mat 24:51 says, "And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites (pretenders): there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

I am not the only one that can see the Mid-Trib Rapture.

"THE BIBLICAL CASE FOR MID-TRIBULATIONALISM" by Steve W. Lemke, faculty, New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary http://www.nobts.edu/faculty/itor/lemkesw/personal/midtribulationism.html

"This synoptic account of the signs and events of the end provides the most direct scriptural warrant for the mid-tribulational view.

"CONCLUSION"

"On the basis of the scriptural texts in the chart below, it seems evident that Revelation 14 is the appropriate scriptural locus for the return of Christ for believers.

(My thoughts: I think Rev 14:1-5 is talking about the second Rapture, the one on the Day of the Lord. After the Mid-Trib Rapture, all the saints get to sing the new song. Rev. 5:8-10 says, "...saints. And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; 10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.)

"Only mid-tribulationalism adequately takes into account the sharp division in time emphasized in all the major eschatological passages. Only mid-tribulationalism can provide a synoptic account which follows the chronological pattern in Scripture for all the signs of the end and events of the end prophesied in the major eschatological passages. On the basis of this argument, it seems the proper interpretation of Scripture that there will be a mid-tribulational rapture of believers.

"Even so, come Lord Jesus!

"THE SCRIPTURAL BASIS FOR THE MID-TRIBULATIONAL ACCOUNT EVENT OF THE ESCHATON IN THE BOOK OF REVELATION IN THE ESCHATOLOGICAL DISCOURSE AND OTHER NEW TESTAMENT PASSAGES IN THE OLD TESTAMENT

"The throne, the scroll, and the Lamb Revelation 4-5 The Signs of the End begin: The First Seal --the white horse of conquest Revelation 6:1-2 Matthew 24:7, Mark 13:7, Luke 21:9 The Second Seal --the red horse of war Revelation 6:3-4 Matthew 24:7, Mark 13:8,Luke 21:10 The Third Seal --the black horse of famine Revelation 6:5-6 Matthew 24:7, Mark 13:8,Luke 21:11 The Fourth Seal --the pale horse of death Revelation 6:7-8 Matthew 24:7, Mark 13:8,Luke 21:11 The Fifth Seal – persecution Revelation 6:9-11 Matthew 24:9-14, Mark 13:9-13,Luke 21:12-19 The Sixth Seal --earthquake, moon turns red, stars fall,sky rolls as a scroll,people run for the mountains Revelation 6:12-17 Matthew 24:15-29, Mark 13:14-25 Luke 21:29-28 Joel 2:10, 3:15-16; 3:30-31;Zechariah 1:14-18 Interlude -- the sealing of the 144,000 Revelation 7:1-17 The Seventh Seal -- the seven trumpets Revelation 8:1-9:211 Corinthians 15:51, 1 Thessalonians 4:16 Exodus 7-10 Interlude -- the angel, the little scroll, and the two witnesses Revelation 10:1-11:141 Thessalonians 4:16 The Seventh Trumpet -- the 24 elders sing Revelation 11:15-191 Thessalonians 4:16 Michael the archangel defeats the dragon Revelation 12:1-17 1 Thessalonians 4:16 Daniel 12:1-2 The beast enacts the abomination of desolation for 24 months Revelation 13:1-18 Matthew 24:15, Mark 13:14, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 Daniel 7:25, 9:27;11:31; 12:11 The Events of the End begin:The Mid-Tribulation Rapture Revelation 14:1-16 Matthew 24:30-31, Mark 13:26-27,1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 Daniel 7:13-14 The Seven Bowls of Wrath --God's wrath poured out on unbelievers Revelation 14:17-18:24 Exodus 7-10 The Second Coming,Final Judgment, and Eternity Revelation 19:1-22:21 Amos 9:13-15,Micah 4:1-8"

> > 6. It is written, "And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draweth nigh." -(Luke 21:28). In Luke 21, events of the Tribulation are described. Verse 28 shows that when these things begin to happen, after Israel's rebirth, then we are to know that the Rapture is about to take place. Note, it did not say, when they "have" happened, but when they "begin" to happen. They begin to happen as birth pangs of a woman about to give birth to a baby. Again, if a person was going to go through the Tribulation, the wording of this verse would be inaccurate.

Luk 21:20-28 says,"And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. 21 Then (tote, at that time, Mid-Trib) let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto. 22 For these be the days of vengeance (i.e., the Great Tribulation), that all things which are written may be fulfilled.

Luk 21:23-28 says, "But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. 24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. 25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; 26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken (i.e., at Mid-Trib and during the Great Tribulation). 27 And then (tote, at that time) shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 And when these things BEGIN to come to pass (i.e., at Mid-Trib), then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh."

Maybe "these things" begin Mid-Trib and end on the Day of God's Wrath at the end of the Great Tribulation.

2 Th 2:3 (HNV) says, "Let no one deceive you in any way. For it will not be, unless THE DEPARTURE COMES FIRST, AND THE MAN OF SIN IS REVEALED, THE SON OF DESTRUCTION".

We may not know for sure who the False Prophet will be. He will be revealed because he won't be caught up in the First-Trump Rapture.

May the Lord bless you richly, Agape

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