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Posted 10-26-09

'Mega meteor that crashed off Indian coast' may have wiped out dinosaurs

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1221388/Indian-mega-meteor-wiped-dinosaurs.html
21 Oct 09

The dinosaurs may have been wiped out by a meteor four times bigger than the one previously thought to have caused their extinction.

Scientists believe a 25-mile wide meteor crashed into the ocean off the west coast of India, creating the 310-mile wide Shiva basin.

Incoming e-mail, Re: Dec. 16 to Coincide With Copenhagen Declaration of One World Government

Sorry to hear of your struggles. According to the COP-15 website, we should expect the scheduled voting to formally take place on December 16th 2009. That is the date chosen by the world's elites to sign the Copenhagen Climate accords, which create a One World Authority with dominion over every national government that signs the treaty.

That's important because, the Man of Sin and Leader of this world government would not be officially identified until just after your proposed Rapture date.

The regular block of European and third world countries have already agreed to sign. When our dear leader signs, the pact with hell, death and the grave will be complete. Out of greed most signatories will push to elect our dear leader World Leader. That should satisfy any interpretation of the scriptural appearance of the AC and we will be gone.

Alarmingly, the COP-15 website already claims that voting is a mere formality. Did you notice something even more curious about this new treaties name? YES, IT'S ALL PREDICATED UPON BECOMING ENFORCABLE IN 2015, SEVEN YEARS AFTER IT WAS FIRST PROPOSED IN 2008! I THINK WE FOUND OUR RECOMMITMENT TO A SEVEN YEAR TREATY SPOKEN OF IN THE BIBLE. This accord is the restatement of the much flawed craziness of Kyoto.

Look up, it won't be long now Sister! Agape

My reply

> > Sorry to hear of your struggles.

I have something good to tell you this time. THE LORD PROVIDES.

The rack and pinion steering had to be replaced on our Toyota Sienna van, ordinarily a $1,000. job. That in itself was a fair price. We had to pay $1500. to get it done on our old Ford Taurus, and then it threw a rod and broke the block soon afterward.

Before that happened, Ed had gotten a power chair. I had gone online to see which van was closest to the ground, then took Ed to the dealer to see if he could get into it. Just barely, but he could get in.

When the Taurus quit, I called Toyota. The salesman came to get us in the van we bought. Being a Christian, he was playing a Christian station on the radio. It was a 2005, and we bought it in 2006. It just happened to have a service contract along with it. We would never have signed up for a service contract on our own, but the Lord provided then for our needs now.

I only had to pay $50 copay to get the van's steering fixed. Not having $50, I was about to panic, but I had earned $77 rewards on my Toyota Rewards Card. It could only be spent at Toyota, and they took the $50 out of that. Whew! Thank you Lord for steering us through that unexpected pitfall. In Jesus' name, Amen.

Now, I need to get the left tail light bulb replaced and get the ramp that fits on the trailer hitch wired for electricity. Then Ed can take his power chair when we go out. Dave installed a hitch and found the ramp at the swap meet for me, but he can't get to the wiring or replace that bulb. Before he got a ruptured appendix, he had tried for 2 hours to get a panel off to get to it. The ramp would drag if I backed out of the driveway, but if I park in the street before putting on the ramp, it should work ok.

Not knowing much about this agreement, I went to the COP 15 site: http://en.cop15.dk/news/view+news?newsid=876 It said, "According to Yvo de Boer, the four essentials calling for an international agreement in Copenhagen are:

"1. How much are the industrialized countries willing to reduce their emissions of greenhouse gases?

"2. How much are major developing countries such as China and India willing to do to limit the growth of their emissions?

"3. How is the help needed by developing countries to engage in reducing their emissions and adapting to the impacts of climate change going to be financed?

"4. How is that money going to be managed?

“If Copenhagen can deliver on those four points I’d be happy,” says Yvo de Boer.

"He sees a need to get something signed and agreed in Copenhagen, but he thinks it will be very difficult to get every final, small detail of a whole new treaty done. The new climate treaty will be replacing the Kyoto Protocol which was adopted in Kyoto, Japan, in December 1997 and entered into force on 16 February 2005."

Thank you for praying for Dave. He just came in from selling at the swap meet, and is exhausted. Thank you Lord for getting him through that. After pneumonia and a ruptured appendix, it is amazing that he could do it at all. He told me to wake him for the Angel/Yankee ball game. We are still praying for you and your family. Agape

His reply

Jesus is working among His people in mighty ways Marilyn right now. That's wonderful news!

Aside from what a Danish official claims for the record and reports to the lackey's in the media, the portion of the COP 15 treaty I speak of is an 'eyes only' codicil to the treaty. According to Lord Monchton, who as a senior member of Parliament has seen the treaty, it contains four major tenets.

The first four paragraphs cover the articles that establish a One World Governing Body. A One World President will be elected (he's already been anointed), a mechanism for some type of deliberative body will be adopted. Most importantly 'the Mother's Milk' of all politics, unlimited funding is established by these insane 'cap n' trade' laws every Western government is successfully ramming through their legislatures. Evidence Gordon Brown's bizzare behavior and his near hysteria during Parliamentary discussion time about 'Global Warming', drowning polar bears and 50 foot high global flooding. Look for it on Youtube, it's a shockingly misguided and perverse bit of madness.

Finally, it establishes that seven year time line for all nations of the world to be brought on board as part of the human family of nations by 2015. The climate change agenda was just the once believable rationale and convenient Great Lie satan has used to disguise establishment of a New World government that's really at the heart of Kyoto and Copenhagen.

He was a liar from the beginning who seeks ultimate dominion over every nation, tribe and tongue. Notice the Jesus Christ has totally shut down the normal solar radiation generation cycles, for ten years of glacial cooling, so that His children would not be deceived into believing satan's Great Lie that's global warming.

Credible whistle blowers from the former USSR have come forward over the years to show us that the global socialist revolution just put on green colors to hide while their greater agenda was imposed upon the re-educated children of the West. They have already reached that threshold.

It's December 16th when voting is scheduled. Go to the website. Notice they arrogantly slip up and call it what it really is, a date for voting in the most wicked government in World History. All accomplished by a day already set aside for a Parliamentary process. It's vital that everyone understands, Kyoto didn't form a parliament. Wake up,'only governments have Parliaments' ,Marilyn. Use Google and find for me one example of a parliament that runs anything other than a nation-state! I rest the Lord's case my Sister! Agape

Asian leaders meeting in Thailand are discussing plans to "lead the world" by forming an EU-style community by 2015....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8323742.stm
The community would involve the 10-members of Asean with regional partners China, Japan, South Korea, India, Australia and New Zealand, Japanese officials have said.

My comment

2015 seems right in line with Rev. 17:12. It says, "And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet (at the time of the Pre-Trib Rapture, v. 14); but receive power as kings one hour with the beast."

Incoming e-mail, Re:

But what did The Almighty God say in Proverbs 24:21

My son, fear you the Lord and the king, and meddle not with them that are given to CHANGE.

Incoming e-mail, Re: AntiChrist then the Rapture

Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him.. Dont let anyone deceive you in any way for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness (antichrist) is revealed. -2Thesalonians 2:1,3

Hi dear sister. Halleluyah. Iam dont know really much about the word "rebellion". I just want to share this verse that after the antichrist is revealed the rapture will follow. But I thank you that I also get some idea about the word "rebellion" use in this verse. I only have 2 ideas about this word: a. antichrist rebelling against God. b. christian rebelling against God in the last days..

Anyway, Any personal revelation on when the rapture will come?

Thanks again, Yours in Christ

My reply

In 2 Thess. 2:3, instead of REBELLING, or APOSTACY as in some versions, it should be translated DEPARTING. The Rapture (Rev. 4:1) comes BEFORE the man of sin is revealed (Rev. 13), and the man of sin is revealed before the Day of the Lord comes.

On the Five Doves today, you posted:
"Where is the church before the pre-pre tribulation?"
“See, I will send the prophet Elijah to you BEFORE that great and dreadful day of the LORD (or tribulation) comes. He will turn the hearts of the parents to their children, and the hearts of the children to their parents; or else I will come and strike the land with total destruction.” Malachi 4:5-6
The Day of the Lord is the Day of God's Wrath, the end of the Tribulation, not the whole Tribulation.

Zeph. 1:14-18 (NASB) says,
"Listen, THE DAY OF THE LORD!
In it the warrior cries out bitterly.
A DAY OF WRATH is that day,
A day of trouble and distress,
A day of destruction and desolation,
A day of darkness and gloom,
A day of clouds and thick darkness,
A DAY OF TRUMPET and battle cry
Against the fortified cities
And the high corner towers.
I will bring distress on men
So that they will walk like the blind,
Because they have sinned against the LORD;
And their blood will be poured out like dust
And their flesh like dung.
Neither their silver nor their gold
Will be able to deliver them
On the DAY OF THE LORD'S WRATH".

Isa 2:12-21 (KJV) says, "For the DAY OF THE LORD of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low: And upon all the cedars of Lebanon, that are high and lifted up, and upon all the oaks of Bashan, And upon all the high mountains, and upon all the hills that are lifted up, And upon every high tower, and upon every fenced wall, And upon all the ships of Tarshish, and upon all pleasant pictures. And the loftiness of man shall be bowed down, and the haughtiness of men shall be made low: and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day. And the idols he shall utterly abolish. And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth. In that day a man shall cast his idols of silver, and his idols of gold, which they made each one for himself to worship, to the moles and to the bats; To go into the clefts of the rocks, and into the tops of the ragged rocks, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth."

Rev 6:12-17 says, "And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: For the great DAY OF HIS WRATH is come; and who shall be able to stand?"

Isa 13:9-13 says, "Behold, the DAY OF THE LORD cometh, cruel both with WRATH and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it. For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine. And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible. I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir. Therefore I will shake the heavens, and THE EARTH SHALL REMOVE OUT OF HER PLACE, IN THE WRATH OF THE LORD OF HOSTS, AND IN THE DAY OF HIS FIERCE ANGER."

Joel 2:1-11 says, "Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the DAY OF THE LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand; A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong (Gog's army, Eze. 38); there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations. A fire devoureth before them; and behind them a flame burneth: the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yea, and nothing shall escape them. The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses; and as horsemen, so shall they run. Like the noise of chariots on the tops of mountains shall they leap, like the noise of a flame of fire that devoureth the stubble, as a strong people set in battle array. Before their face the people shall be much pained: all faces shall gather blackness. They shall run like mighty men; they shall climb the wall like men of war; and they shall march every one on his ways, and they shall not break their ranks: Neither shall one thrust another; they shall walk every one in his path: and when they fall upon the sword, they shall not be wounded. They shall run to and fro in the city; they shall run upon the wall, they shall climb up upon the houses; they shall enter in at the windows like a thief. The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining: And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word: for the DAY OF THE LORD is great and very terrible; and who can abide it?"

Joel 3:14-16 says, "Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the DAY OF THE LORD is near in the valley of decision. The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining. The LORD also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake".

Zeph 1:14-18 says, "The great DAY OF THE LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly. That day is A DAY OF WRATH, a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness, A day of the trumpet and alarm against the fenced cities, and against the high towers. And I will bring distress upon men, that they shall walk like blind men, because they have sinned against the LORD: and their blood shall be poured out as dust, and their flesh as the dung. Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them in the DAY OF THE LORD'S WRATH; but the whole land shall be devoured by the fire of his jealousy: for he shall make even a speedy riddance of all them that dwell in the land."

2Peter 3:10 says, "But the DAY OF THE LORD will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up."

> > Any personal revelation on when the rapture will come?

The Rapture is to be as the days of Noah. Of course, I'm watching Cheshvan 17, our Nov. 4, the date Noah went into the Ark, but especially watching for Kislev 24, Dec. 11, 2009. Any dates on the Jewish Calendar this year can be 2 days later, because the new Crescent Moon was not sighted in Israel until Tishri 2, Sept. 20, 2009. That would move Tishri 1 from Sept. 19 to Sept. 21.

Kislev 24, Dec. 11, 2009, is the Eve of Hanukkah. Two days later will be Dec. 13, my birthday. That's interesting since our son David was born on April 6, date of the Crucifixion in 30 AD, and our daughter was born on May 29, Pentecost in 30 AD.

Cheshvan 17 is when Noah entered the Ark, the door was closed, and it began to rain. However, the Ark did not immediately raise up free of the ground. That happened by the 40th day.

Haggai 2:18,19 says, "Consider now from this day and upward, from the four and twentieth day of the ninth month (Kislev 24), even from the day that the foundation of the LORD'S temple (i.e., the temple of his body) was laid (i.e., when Jesus was conceived), consider it. Is the seed yet in the barn? yea (a saying that meant is the seed yet in the womb) (yes, Jesus, the seed of the woman, Gen. 3:15, was conceived on this date), as yet the vine, and the fig tree, and the pomegranate, and the OLIVE TREE, hath not brought forth: from this day will I bless you."

John 2:21 says, "But he spake of the TEMPLE OF HIS BODY."

1Cor 3:16 says, "Know ye not that YE ARE THE TEMPLE OF GOD, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?"

1Co 12:27 says, "Now YE ARE THE BODY OF CHRIST, and members in particular."

Maybe we are the olive harvest too. It ends at Hanukkah, Kislev 25. Also, the saved are called the temple of the Holy Spirit and the Body of Christ. It would make sense that we could be raptured on the same date that Jesus was conceived.

To figure that, Zachariah ended his Temple service on the third Sabbath of Sivan. John the Baptist was conceived soon after Zachariah returned home. Jesus was conceived in the sixth month of Elizabeth's pregnancy, (1) Tamuz, (2) Av, (3) Elul, (4) Tishri, (5) Cheshvan and (6) Kislev.

Luke 1:24-27 says, "And after those days his wife Elisabeth conceived, and hid herself five months, saying, Thus hath the Lord dealt with me in the days wherein he looked on me, to take away my reproach among men. And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth, To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary." Jesus was born about 9 months later, on Tishri 1, the Feast of Trumpets. Those intervening months were (1) Teveth, (2) Shevat, (3) Adar, (4) Nisan, (5) Iyar, (6) Sivan, (7) Tamuz, (8) Av, and (9) Elul.

John 4:35 says, "Say not ye, There are YET FOUR MONTHS, and then cometh harvest? behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and LOOK ON THE FIELDS; FOR THEY ARE WHITE ALREADY TO HARVEST." If the Rapture is in Kislev, the four months would be Teveth, Shebat, Adar, and Nisan. The barley harvest starts on the Feast of Firstfruits in Nisan. I think these four months suggest that the Rapture could be in Kislev. We will know soon. Agape

Incoming e-mail, Re: DEMOCRATIC TYRANTS RULE THE U.S.

By Sheriff Jim R. Schwiesow, Ret.
October 21, 2009
http://www.newswithviews.com:80/Schwiesow/jim157.htm

“And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. If any man have an ear, let him hear.” Revelation 13:7-9

The people of this country, and in fact of the entire world, are witnessing the concluding constituents of an ancient and diabolical plan, an infernal contrivance that is as evil and fiendish as the spirit behind it, Satan the god of this world. It is the quest for world conquest through the institution and insinuation of fear, which is a mystery only to those who lack the illuminating power of God’s Spirit....

...The crowning achievement by the Illuminati, that cinched the delivery of the people of the United States into the hands of the agents for a new world order, came with the founding of the American Federal Reserve System in 1913....

COUNTING DOWN TO THE END

The Club of Rome, founded by the Illuminati in 1968, has divided the world into ten political/economic regions: North America (The United States, Mexico and Canada), Europe, Japan, Australia, Russia, South America, North Africa and the Middle East, Central and Southern Africa, and India and Malaysia/China. This tells me that we are in the very late stages of Biblical prophecy. In Satan’s new world order these regions will be amalgamated into the whole of a world government under the dragon’s iron control....

The Order of the Illuminati born of Satan and implemented by his manservant Adam Weishaupt in Bavaria on May 1st of 1776, is a self-perpetuating order of men by which the Luciferian torch for a new world order has been passed on seamlessly to succeeding generations...

The passing through stage must necessarily be so frightening as to compel a thoroughly terrified people to accept a world government - under Satan, and they will.

My thoughts

Hmm. 1776, when American declared her Independence, and 1968, just after the Six-Day War of 1967 - food for thought.

On Apr. 18, 1775, General Gage ordered 700 British soldiers to Concord to destroy the colonists' weapons depot. That was the night of Paul Revere's famous ride. At dawn the next day, about 70 armed Massachusetts militiamen faced the British on Lexington Green. With an unordered shot heard around the world, our American Revolution began.

On May 10, 1775, the Second Continental Congress appointed Washington General of the Continental army.

On June 7, 1776, Richard Henry Lee presented his formal resolution to Congress for American to declare its independence from Britain to. The final Declaration of Independence was signed on July 4, 1776.

June 7 was when Israel regained the Temple Mount in 1967, and the Order of the Illuminati, born in Bavaria, dates from May 1, 1776. Were these correlations planned?

That the Club of Rome was founded in 1968 also got my attention. The Six-Day War was in 1967. That is when the clock of the last generation began to tick.

Entities larger than us and more powerful than us are exposing their control over world events. Doing the best we can to vote for what is right, we can't stop the rush to the terrible end. The best we can do is accept Christ, keep ourselves filled with the Holy Spirit, and watch for the Lord to catch us up before the worst of times comes to pass.

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