Pro and Con 1542

Posted 2-22-10

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My reply to incoming email (omitted)

> > the entire seven year Tribulation period, from one viewpoint of the Lord Himself, is divided into two hours. The first half of the Tribulation is “the hour of temptation” [peirasmos]. The second half of the Tribulation is “the hour of His judgment.”

JESUS' LONG DAY

I think "the hour of his judgment" will be on one day, Jesus' Long Day, of which Joshua's Long Day was a type. That long day will be:

(1) the day of the Last-Trump Rapture
(2) "the time of Jacob's trouble"
(3) the "time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation
(4) the day the globe is turned upside down

THE DAY OF THE LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE

1Cor 15:51-53 says, "Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all (i.e., including you, me and Paul) be changed (become immortal), In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the LAST TRUMP (not the first trump of I Thess. 4:16,17, that's the First-Trump Rapture): for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality."

"THE TIME OF JACOB'S TROUBLE" - ONE DAY, THE DAY OF GOD'S WRATH

Jer 30:7 says, "Alas! for THAT DAY is great, so that NONE IS LIKE IT: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble, BUT HE SHALL BE SAVED OUT OF IT" (in the Last-Trump Rapture, which happens on one literal day, the Day of God's Wrath.

Rev. 6:17; 7:14 says, "For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?...they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb."

"A TIME OF TROUBLE, SUCH AS NEVER WAS SINCE THERE WAS A NATION"

Dan 12:1,2 says, "And at that time (when the False Prophet shall be deposed, Dan. 11:45) shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be A TIME OF TROUBLE, SUCH AS NEVER WAS SINCE THERE WAS A NATION even to that same time: and AT THAT TIME THY PEOPLE (i.e., the 144,000) SHALL BE DELIVERED (malat, escape; i.e., in the Last-Trump Rapture), every one that shall be found written in the book. And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake".

THE DAY THE GLOBE IS TURNED UPSIDE DOWN

Isa 24:1 says, "Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and TURNETH IT UPSIDE DOWN, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof."

"THE HOUR OF HIS JUDGMENT IS COME"

Rev 14:7,8 says, "Fear God, and give glory to him; for THE HOUR OF HIS JUDGMENT is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. And there followed another angel, saying, BABYLON IS FALLEN, is fallen".

"IN ONE HOUR IS THY JUDGMENT COME"

Rev. 18:10 says, "Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in ONE HOUR is thy judgment come". That will be when the asteroids of Rev. 8:8-11 impact Earth on the Day of God's Wrath.

EVENTS ON THE DAY OF THE LORD

To me, the "hour of his judgment" follows the Last-Trump Rapture (Rev. 7:14) on the day of God's Wrath, "For the great day of his wrath is come" in Rev. 6:17.

The "hour of his judgment" is on the day of Christ's Coronation on the first day of his millennial kingdom, when he is afterward seated as judge at the Judgment Seat of Christ in Heaven. It follows the 7th seal and the respectful HALF HOUR silence in Heaven (Rev 8:1) and Earth (Hab 2:20) while his honor, Jesus Christ, the God/man, the fairest judge of all time, is being seated.

Rev 8:1 says, "And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was SILENCE IN HEAVEN about the space of half an hour." Hab 2:20 says, "the LORD is in his holy temple: let all the EARTH KEEP SILENCE before him."

JESUS' LONG DAY

Isa 24:1 says, "Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and TURNETH IT UPSIDE DOWN, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof."

Rev 6:17 says, "For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?" On that day, seven trumpets are given to seven angels. All seven resulting judgments take place on one literal day, Jesus' Long Day, when the Earth is turned upside down by the asteroid impacts of Rev. 8:8-11.

Rev 8:8-11 says, "And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain (i.e., asteroid) burning with fire was cast into the sea (the Mediterranean): and the third part of the sea became blood; And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed. And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star (aster, star or asteroid) from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; And the name of the star is called Wormwood (where Satan resides): and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter." HE WILL "TOSS THEE LIKE A BALL"

Isa 22:16-19 says, "What hast thou here? (Babylon) and whom hast thou here (the Satan-possessed False Prophet), that thou hast hewed thee out a sepulchre here, as he (Satan) that heweth him out a sepulchre on high, and that graveth an habitation for himself in a rock? (named Wormwood) Behold, the LORD will carry thee away with a mighty captivity, and will surely cover thee. He will surely violently turn and TOSS THEE LIKE A BALL into a large country (Iraq, not tiny Israel): there shalt thou die (when cast into the Lake of Fire that forms there), and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord's house. And I will drive thee from thy station, and from thy state shall he pull thee down."

THE SUN WILL "GO DOWN AT NOON" ON THE DARK "BITTER DAY"

Amos 8:9,10 says, "And it shall come to pass in THAT DAY, saith the Lord GOD, that I will cause the SUN TO GO DOWN AT NOON, and I will darken the earth in the clear day: And I will turn your feasts (on the Feast of Trumpets) into mourning, and all your songs into lamentation; and I will bring up sackcloth upon all loins, and baldness upon every head; and I will make it as the mourning of an only son, and the end thereof as A BITTER DAY."

Jer 25, 32,33 says, "evil shall go forth from nation to nation, and a great whirlwind shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth. And the slain of the LORD shall be at THAT DAY (the Day of God's Wrath) from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth".

THE DAY OF THE LORD IS "A DAY OF VENGEANCE"

Jer 46:10 says, "For this is THE DAY OF THE LORD GOD OF HOSTS (YHWH of hosts, Christ; Isa, 44:6), A DAY OF VENGEANCE, that he may avenge him of his adversaries."

Isa 44:6 says, "Thus saith the LORD (YHWH) the King of Israel, and his redeemer (Christ) the LORD (YHWH) of hosts; I am the first (YHWH King of Israel), and I am the last (YHWH of hosts, the Redeemer); and beside me there is no God."

The Last-Trump Rapture will catch the 144,000 Israelites, plus a great multitude that can't be numbered, up to Heaven that day (Rev. 6:17; 7:1-14; 14:1-5). Then the "TIME OF TROUBLE, SUCH AS NEVER WAS SINCE THERE WAS A NATION" will come to pass.

"THE DAY OF THE LORD'S VENGEANCE" IS ONE DAY IN "THE YEAR OF RECOMPENSES"

Isa 34:8 says, "For it is THE DAY OF THE LORD'S VENGEANCE, AND THE YEAR OF RECOMPENSES for the controversy of Zion.

THE HOUR OF HIS JUDGMENT

To me, "the hour of His judgment" is one literal hour on the Feast of Trumpets (probably Sept. 14, 2015) when Jesus will be seated as judge at the Judgment Seat of Christ in Heaven and will pass judgment on unbelievers residing on Earth. That hour will follow the Last-Trump Rapture of I Cor. 15:51,52, which is earlier that same day. All the saints in Heaven will receive their rewards at the same time the unbelievers on Earth receive their just deserts for their unbelief (Rev. 11:15f).

"THE DAY OF THE FEAST" (TRUMPETS) IS THE DAY OF "DESTRUCTION", THE DAY OF THE LORD, AND THE DAY OF GOD'S WRATH

Hos 9:5,6 says, "What will ye do in THE SOLEMN DAY, and in the DAY OF THE FEAST OF THE LORD? (i.e., the Feast of Trumpets) For, lo, they are gone because of DESTRUCTION."

Joel 1:15 says, "Alas for the day! for THE DAY OF THE LORD is at hand, and as a DESTRUCTION from the Almighty shall it come."

Isa 13:9,13 says, "Behold, the DAY OF THE LORD cometh, cruel both with WRATH AND FIERCE ANGER, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it....Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the WRATH OF THE LORD (YHWH) of hosts (Christ, Isa. 44:6), and in THE DAY OF HIS FIERCE ANGER."

Psa 110:5 says, "The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in THE DAY OF HIS WRATH."

Prov 16:4 says, "The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for THE DAY OF EVIL."

GOD "WILL WITH THE TEMPTATION ALSO MAKE A WAY TO ESCAPE"

1Cor 10:13 says, "There hath no temptation (pierasmos) taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted (pierazo) above that ye are able; but WILL WITH THE TEMPTATION (pierasmos, temptation, provocation) ALSO MAKE A WAY TO ESCAPE (ekbasis, exit; i.e., be raptured), that ye may be able to bear it."

Rev 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the HOUR OF TEMPTATION (peirasmos, temptation, trial, provocation), which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth."

Psa 95:8 Harden not your heart, as in the provocation, and as in the day of temptation (massah, testing) in the wilderness".

THE HOUR OF JUDGMENT WHEN BABYLON IS DESTROYED FOLLOWS THE LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE

Rev 14:1-8 says, "And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads. And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: And they sung as it were a NEW SONG before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were REDEEMED FROM THE EARTH. These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God. And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the HOUR OF HIS JUDGMENT is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication."

THE HOUR OF TEMPTATION WILL FOLLOW THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE

Since we are to be kept from the Hour of Temptation, it will arrive after we are gone. Therefore, it seems possible that it could be when the False Prophet declares that no one can buy or sell unless they accept the Mark of the Beast. That will probably be at the time the False Prophet sits in the Temple pretending to be God.

2Th 2:4 says, "Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God."

I think the first beast of Rev. 13 could be the Pope. He wears the name of blasphemy, Pontifex Maximus, just as Nimrod and all the other leaders of the five empires that have fallen did. I looked up the coins of the Caesars. All had Pontifex Maximus on them.

In Rev. 17:14, the First-Trump Rapture has already taken place. It says, "the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that ARE WITH HIM are called, and chosen, and faithful."

Therefore, after the Rapture has already taken place, verse 10 says, "there are seven kings: five are fallen (kings of Babel, Babylon II, Media-Persia, Greece, and the Holy Roman Empire) ONE IS (probably the king of the Ecclesiastical Roman Empire, the Pope, the first beast of Rev. 13), and THE OTHER (the king of Babylon III, the False Prophet, the second beast of Rev. 13) IS NOT YET COME (so the time of the First-Trump Rapture is definitely BEFORE Mid-Trib); and when he (the False Prophet, ruler of Babylon III) cometh (Mid-Trib), he must continue a short space" (1040 days, the 2300 of Dan. 8:13,14 - 1260), the shortened Great Tribulation).

So far, we can know that the First-Trump Rapture will be on "the Lord's Day", Sunday (Rev. 1:9,10) sometime between now and Mid-Trib (Rev. 17:10-14). None of the feast days will be on Sunday until the Feast of Unleavened Bread in 2012. However, next Ascension Day will be on Sunday, Iyar 25, 5770, May 9, 2010, the 40th day of the Omer. Day 1 of the Omer is the Feast of Firstfruits.

The Last-Trump Rapture will be on the Day of the Lord, which is the Day of God's Wrath (Rev. 6:17; 7:14; 8:1f), probably on Tishri 1, 5776, Sept. 14, 2015, the Feast of Trumpets.

Rev 17:8 says, "The beast that thou sawest (Satan) was (in Judas Iscariot, the 1st son of perdition), and is not (in man now); and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit (Mid-Trib, Rev. 12:9):, and GO INTO PERDITION (the 2nd son of perdition, the False Prophet): and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was (in Judas Iscariot), and is not (in man now), and yet is" (exists).

Rev 12:9 says, "And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out INTO THE EARTH, and his angels were cast out with him." Satan has to be cast into the Earth before he can "ascend out of the bottomless pit", which probably is the molten center of the Earth. Agape

Discovery backs theory oil not 'fossil fuel'
New evidence supports premise that Earth produces endless supply

By Jerome R. Corsi, Feb 01, 2008
http://www.wnd.com:80/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59991

A study published in Science Magazine today presents new evidence supporting the abiotic theory for the origin of oil, which asserts oil is a natural product the Earth generates constantly rather than a "fossil fuel" derived from decaying ancient forests and dead dinosaurs.

The lead scientist on the study ? Giora Proskurowski of the School of Oceanography at the University of Washington in Seattle ? says the hydrogen-rich fluids venting at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean in the Lost City Hydrothermal Field were produced by the abiotic synthesis of hydrocarbons in the mantle of the earth.

Incoming e-mail, Re: Rapture References - Part 2

By Jack Kelley
http://bible-prophecy-today.blogspot.com:80/

In part one of this series we explored some of the clearest hints from the Old Testament that the Lord has always intended to rapture the Church before the End Times judgments begin. This time we’ll continue with a two part survey of the New Testament. Because Paul was the first to reveal the mystery of the Rapture, we won’t expect to find a clear explanation in the Gospels....

My reply

> > the Lord has always intended to rapture the Church before the End Times judgments begin.

Yes, but judgment begins when Christ is given his kingdom, and he is installed as judge at the Judgment Seat of Christ. Only then are the 7 trumpets given to the 7 angels. Both the First-Trump Rapture of I Thess 4:16,17 and the Last-Trump Rapture of I Cor 15:51,52 will take place before the Judgment Seat of Christ convenes. Rewards will be given all the saints in Heaven at the same time that judgment hits unbelievers on Earth.

Rev 11:15-19 describes that day. It says, "And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God".

Rev 11:17-19 says, "We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art (on judgment day), and wast (at the First Advent), and art to come (at the Second Advent 7 months later; Eze 39:12,13); because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast REIGNED. And the nations were angry, and THY WRATH IS COME, and the time of the dead, that they should be JUDGED (at the Judgment Seat of Christ), and that thou shouldest give REWARD unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth. And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament (REMEMBER THE TWO SYMBOLIC STONES IN IT): and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake (WHEN THE TWO STONES OF REV. 8:8-11 IMPACT EARTH), and great hail."

The first time the word wrath is found in The Revelation of Jesus Christ is in Rev 6:16,17. It is talking about the same day as Rev. 11:15f. Rev 6:16,17 says that men "said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that SITTETH ON THE THRONE, and from the WRATH of the Lamb: FOR THE GREAT DAY OF HIS WRATH IS COME; and who shall be able to stand?" They see the Sign of the Son of Man in the sky. Right after that, we see the raptured Tribulation saints in Heaven (Rev. 7:14). After that, there is a respectful silence in both Heaven (Rev. 8:1) and Earth (Hab 2:20) while the judge is being seated. Only then are the 7 judgment trumpets given to the 7 angels. Those 7 judgments will all hit Earth on the Day of God's Wrath.

> > Lot was taken away from the time and place of the judgment before it began. In fact the angels who were sent to remove him said they couldn’t bring the judgment on Sodom and Gomorrah until Lot was away and safe. (Genesis 19:21-22) As I demonstrated in part one of this series, Lot served as a model of the Church who also has to be rescued from the time and place of the coming judgment before it can begin.

The First-Trump Rapture takes place as in the days of Noah, not as in the days of Lot. The wicked were not all destroyed the same day that Noah and his family were shut into the Ark. It took some time, but they were all gone before it stopped raining. The Last-Trump Rapture takes place as in the days of Lot. The SAME DAY that Lot left Sodom, an asteroid destroyed the cities of the plain.

> > Here then is the sequence. Before the Day of the Lord can come, the antichrist has to be revealed, and before he can be revealed the church has to be raptured. So according to Paul the next prophetic event involving believers will be our own disappearance.

The Day of the Lord is the Day of God's Wrath. Before that wrath hits Earth, both Raptures must take place, one before the man of sin is revealed, one after he is revealed.

Here is what I think. The First-Trump Rapture of I Thess 4:16,17 will be on the Lord's day, Sunday, probably on Ascension Day, Iyar 25, 5770 (Sunday, May 9, 2010), because no Feast days are on Sunday until 2012. The Last-Trump Rapture of I Cor. 15:51,52 will be on the great and terrible Day of the Lord that is the Day of God's Wrath, probably on Tishri 1, 5776 (Sept. 14, 2015). Agape

My reply to Bruce Warner's post on the Five Doves site

Re: Bruce Warner (8 Feb 2010)
"SCRIPTURE TELLS US WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN BETWEEN DAY # 1,260 AND DAY #1,261 OF THE '70th WEEK OF DANIEL'"

> > Daniel 12: 1 (continues)
"There will be a time of tribulation (great tribulation) such as not happened from the beginning of nations until now. (read Matthew 24:15 & 21) But AT THAT TIME YOUR PEOPLE - EVERYONE WHOSE NAME IS FOUND WRITTEN IN THE BOOK - WILL BE DELIVERED." (The Church is raptured to Heaven "at that time"

You are talking about Mid-Trib. Dan 12:1,2 is describing the events of the Day of God's Wrath at the end of the Tribulation. That is the time of Jacob's Trouble, A DAY LIKE NO OTHER - EVER. It is the day of the Last-Trump Rapture of the Tribulation saints, the Day of God's Wrath, the great and terrible Day of the Lord.

THE TIME OF JACOB'S TROUBLE, "THAT DAY IS GREAT, SO THAT NONE IS LIKE IT"

Of that day, Jer 30:6-9 says, "Ask ye now, and see whether a man doth travail with child? wherefore do I see every man with his hands on his loins, as a woman in travail, and all faces are turned into paleness? Alas! for THAT DAY IS GREAT, SO THAT NONE IS LIKE IT: IT IS EVEN THE TIME OF JACOB'S TROUBLE; but he shall be saved out of it (i.e., the Last-Trump Rapture will take place). For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him: But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will (in the Jubilee Year, which begins 7 months after the Day of God's Wrath) raise up unto them."

Dan 11:44,45 says, "But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him (the Satan-possessed False Prophet): therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many. And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him."

The time is when the False Prophet "shall come to his end." That is the Day of God's Wrath, the Time of the End.

After that, we read Dan 12:1-4. It says, "And at that time (the Time of the End, when the False Prophet shall be deposed) shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a TIME OF TROUBLE (the Day of God's Wrath), SUCH AS NEVER WAS SINCE THERE WAS A NATION EVEN TO THAT SAME TIME: and at that time (the Day of God's Wrath) thy people (the 144,000 Israelites) shall be delivered (caught up to Heaven in the 2nd Rapture on the Day of God's Wrath (Rev. 6:17; 7:14), every one that shall be found written in the book. And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever. But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to THE TIME OF THE END".

This "time of trouble such as never was since there was a nation" is one day, the Day of God's Wrath, not Mid-Trib. It is "the time of the end", the day the False Prophet is deposed, the day the two asteroids of Rev. 8:8-11 impact Earth, wiping out all but one sixth of Gog's army and obliterating Babylon. It is the day the Lake of Fire is formed.

The first asteroid will hit the Mediterranean Sea. Wormwood will hit Babylon. Every wall worldwide will fall (Eze. 38:20). All cities will be in shambles. This is the day like no other since there was a nation. There is no way it could be Mid-Trib.

Rev 14:1-5 describes the 2nd Rapture. It says, "I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads. And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were REDEEMED FROM THE EARTH. These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins (i.e., they are added to the wise-virgin group). These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God."

There are two Raptures, one before Mid-Trib, one on the Day of God's Wrath. Agape

PASSOVER SACRIFICE IN JERUSALEM ON APRIL 10, 2010

www.templemountfaithful.org/pass1.htm

On the 10th April the Temple Mount and Land of Israel Faithful Movement, together with the Chai v'Kaiyam organization, intend to hold a Passover Sacrifice on the Temple Mount. This will be done on an altar which is already ready....

We have asked the government of Israel to grant us permission to hold the Sacrifice on the Temple Mount this year....

This sacrifice can be performed even before the Temple is built, just on an altar on the Temple Mount....

Israel is now in the midst of her third redemption - the biggest of all of them. The G-d of Israel returned Jerusalem and the Temple Mount to us through major miracles. Now He expects us to renew this sacrifice immediately, even before the Temple is rebuilt. Our tradition teaches us that once the sacrifice is reintroduced the redemption of Israel will be accomplished, the Third Temple will be built and Mashiach ben David will come....

If permission is not granted to enter the Temple Mount, then the sacrifice will be performed in the City of David before the Southern gates of the Temple Mount...

It will be done without an altar...It is only on the Temple mount that sacrifice can be performed on an altar....

This unique and exciting sacrifice has to be performed according to the commandments of the G-d of Israel ON THE DAY BEFORE THE FIRST DAY OF PASSOVER (actually, Nisan 13, when Jesus was crucified, but to them Nisan 14). IT MUST BE DONE FROM MIDDAY UNTIL MIDNIGHT. It has to be eaten in a special family Seder in Jerusalem.

My comment

Why Sat, 10 April 2010? It is 26th of Nisan, 5770, 11th day of the Omer, not Nisan 14, according to Lev. 23:4,5, or 15, when the Jews keep Passover today, or Iyar 14, or 15, second Passover?

Temple can be built in 3 months

Sanhedrin Calling World to Pesach Sacrifice, Jan 23, 2010
http://the70thweek.blogspot.com/2010/01/sanhedrin-calling-world-to-pesach.html

Question: Regarding the Temple, is it already built and ready to be transferred to the Temple Mount?

Sanhedrin's response: No

Question: If not, will it take long to build?
Sanhedrin's response: Depending upon the resources that will be invested in the project. According the existing technology it may be finished during 3 months.

My comments

I still don't understand their date of April 10 for the Passover sacrifice. How is that the day before Passover or one month later?

Nisan 14, 5770, true Passover = Mon, Mar 29, 2010
Nisan 15, 5770, Jew's Passover/true Unleavened Bread = Tue, Mar 30, 2010
Nisan 16, 5770, Firstfruits, Omer 1 = Wed, March 31, 2010
Nisan 17, 5770 = Omer 2, Thur, April 1, 2010
Nisan 18, 5770 = Omer 3, Fri, April 2, 2010

Nisan 26 = Omer 11, April 10

Iyar 25, 5770, Ascension Day, Omer 40 = Sun, May 9, 2010, probably the First-Trumpet Rapture, which should be on Sunday (Rev. 1:9,10)

An Urgent Call From Gershon Salomon, Chairman of the Temple Mount and Land of Israel Faithful Movement, to All the Nations and to Everyone in the World

http://www.templemountfaithful.org:80/News/the_coming_end-time_war_against_israel.htm

My reply to a post on the Five Doves site

Bruce Warner
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/feb2010/brucew29-4.htm

Hi:

> > the appointed 'Second Coming' of Christ will be on the 'Fall Feasts of 2017'.

I think the First Advent was on Tishri 1 in 5 BC, and the Second Advent will be on Nisan 1 in 2016. De 11:14 says, "I will give you the rain of your land in HIS DUE SEASON, the first rain (Tishri 1) and the latter rain" (Nisan 1).

Hosea 6:2,3 says, "After two days (2000 years) will he revive us: in the third day (the third millenium) he will raise us up (fulfilled in 1948), and we shall live in his sight. Then shall we know (i.e., in 1967), if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter (Nisan 1) and former (Tishri 1) rain unto the earth."

Joel 2:23 says, "Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the LORD your God: for he hath given you the former rain moderately, and he will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain in the first month" (Tishri 1 and Nisan 1).

The way I see it, Jesus came as the former rain on Tishri 1. He will return as the latter rain on Nisan 1.

Eze 29:17 sets the day. It says, "in the first month, in the first day of the month (Nisan 1), the word of the LORD came unto me".

Then Eze 29:21 says, "In that day (Nisan 1) will I cause the horn (king) of the house of Israel (Christ) to bud forth, and I will give thee the opening of the mouth (the Word) in the midst of them; and they shall know that I am the LORD."

I think Jesus will return on Nisan 1, the first day of the Jubilee Year during which the Israelites will be returned to Earth.

In Mt. 24:3, Jesus was asked what would be the sign of his coming and the consummation of the age. He answered with the Parable of the Fig Tree, Israel. When it grew leaves (Gaza Strip, Sinai, West Bank, Golen Heights) in the Six-Day War, that was the sign of His coming and the end of the age.

Since the Israelites will be returned to their land after Jesus returns, that year should be a Jubilee Year. 1967 + 50 = 2017. We need to give that some thought and refine it a little. After Jesus returns, the Israelites will be returned to their land. Therefore, it will be a Jubilee Year. That Jubilee Year has to follow a Sabbatic Year. 5775 is Sabbatic. Therefore, I think the Jubilee Year should start with the Second Advent on Nisan 1, 5776 (April 9, 2016) and end Nisan 1, 5777 (March 28, 2017).

April 9 is an interesting day. It is the day Jesus returned on Resurrection Day in 30 AD. He was crucified on April 6.

> > I expect that the 'rapture of The Church' to happen during the 50-day 'Pentecost Season' in the Spring of 2014 after Michael casts Satan out of Heaven at the mid-point of the '70th Week of Daniel' at which point the 'great tribulation' begins.

If the Second Advent is Nisan 1, 5776 (April 9, 2016), and there are to be 7 months between the Second Advent and the Day of God's Wrath, which would be Tishri 1, 5776 (Sept. 14, 2015), the Feast of Trumpets, that year must be a Leap Year. 5776 is a Leap Year with the 13th month.

That year seems to be anchored in place. 5776 - 7 = 5769, last year. Therefore, I think the First-Trump Rapture is this year, 5770.

There are two Raptures. It looks like the First-Trump Rapture of I Thess. 4:16,17 will be on the Lord's Day, Sunday (Rev. 1:9,10), and the Last-Trump Rapture of I Cor 15:51,52 will be on the Day of the Lord, the Day of God's Wrath (Rev. 6:17; 7:14).

Therefore, the Last-Trump Rapture should be on the Feast of Trumpets, Sept. 14, 2015. According to Dan. 8:13,14, the Tribulation lasts 2300 days. Counted by inclusive reckoning, because it is a block of time, that would put the beginning of the Tribulation on Pentecost, May 29, 2009. The first Rapture already seems overdue. How could it be in 2014? Mid-Trib would be about Nov 9, 2012.

Keep in mind that Rev 3:10 says, "Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation (pierasmos, temptation, provocation), which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth."

Psa 95:8 gives us a tip. It says, "Harden not your heart, as in the provocation, and as in the day of temptation in the wilderness". At that time, the Israelites had a chance to go up into the Promised Land, and they muffed it. We don't want to be foolish virgins and muff our chance to go up into our Promised Land early.

The Lord's prayer in Mt 6:13 says, "And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil".

1Cor 10:13 says, "There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but WILL WITH THE TEMPTATION ALSO MAKE A WAY TO ESCAPE, that ye may be able to bear it."

Rev 3:10 says, "Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth."

When do you think "the hour of temptation" will take place? It looks like the First-Trump Rapture will be on Sunday, the Lord's Day (Rev. 1:9,10). No feast day falls on Sunday until Unleavened Bread in 2012. However, since we are a kind of firstfruit, we could be caught up during Barley Harvest. Ruth was given 6 measures of barley, not 7. That seems to suggest that Ascension Day could be a possibility, and this year, it will be on Sunday, May 9, 2010. I hope that will be the day of the First-Trump Rapture. Agape

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