Pro and Con 1556

Posted 6-26-2010

map, New World Order, 1941

http://endtimepilgrim.org/tenhorns.htm
"About The New World Order Map:
"This map was discovered by Helen Somers in a window in Philadelphia during World War II. It was completed in October 1941, before Pearl Harbor, was printed in bright colors by a cartographer named Maurice Gomberg in Philadelphia in 1942, and was displayed in his store window. Helen Somers immediately recognized the significance of the map and purchased several. At least a few original copies are still in existence, including one in the Library of Congress in Washington, DC."

The Ten Regions of the World, that will be ruled by the 10 kings of Rev. 17, and the coming destruction of Babylon III

http://ec.europa.eu/world/where/index_en.htm

1. North America
2. Central America and Caribbean
3. South America
4. Western Europe
5. Eastern Europe and Central Asia
6. Mediterranean and Middle-East
7. Africa
8. North-East and South Asia
9. South-East Asia
10. Australia and Pacific

Speaking of the time of the First-Trump Rapture, Rev 17:12-18 says, "And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast (Satan). THESE SHALL MAKE WAR WITH THE LAMB, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and THEY THAT ARE WITH HIM (i.e., after the first Rapture) ARE CALLED, AND CHOSEN, AND FAITHFUL. And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore (THE MYSTERY RELIGION OF BABYLON), and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her (VATICAN CITY) with fire. For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast (i.e., the False Prophet that will be housed in Babylon III), until the words of God shall be fulfilled. And THE WOMAN WHICH THOU SAWEST IS THAT GREAT CITY (VATICAN CITY), which reigneth over the kings of the earth."

If Vatican City rules over the kings of the earth, and the Pope rules over Vatican City, the Pope rules over the kings of the earth. This makes the Pope the first beast of Rev. 13.

Rev. 13:3-10 says, "And I saw one of his heads (the Holy Roman Empire) as it were (symbolic language, like 'as if it were') wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed (it became the Holy Ecclesiastical Roman Empire): and all the world wondered after the beast (the Pope, this one or the next one). And they worshipped the dragon (Satan) which gave power unto the beast (the Pope): and they worshipped the beast (the Pope), saying, Who is like unto the beast? (none, the Patriarch of Constantinople is not under the Pope, the Eastern Greek Orthodox churches do not recognize the Pope) who is able to make war with him? (no one) And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months (the first half of the Tribulation). And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven (i.e., the Bride of Christ that was caught up in the First-Trump Rapture before the 7-sealed Title Deed of the Earth was given to Christ). And it was given unto him (the Pope) to make war with the saints (the Tribulation saints), AND TO OVERCOME THEM: AND POWER WAS GIVEN HIM OVER ALL KINDREDS, AND TONGUES, AND NATIONS (Rev. 6:1,2). And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. If any man have an ear, let him hear. He (the Pope) that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints".

Rev 18:1.2,7,8 says, "And after these things (i.e., after Vatican City is moved to Babylon, the city of its roots), I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, BABYLON THE GREAT IS FALLEN, IS FALLEN, AND IS BECOME THE HABITATION OF DEVILS, AND THE HOLD OF EVERY FOUL SPIRIT, AND A CAGE OF EVERY UNCLEAN AND HATEFUL BIRD. How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her".

Rev 18:18 says, "And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city! (Vatican City) Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire".

Rev 18:20,21 says, "Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her. And A MIGHTY ANGEL TOOK UP A STONE (i.e., the asteroid Wormwood, Satan's home; Rev. 8:11) LIKE A GREAT MILLSTONE, AND CAST IT INTO THE SEA, SAYING, THUS WITH VIOLENCE SHALL THAT GREAT CITY BABYLON BE THROWN DOWN, AND SHALL BE FOUND NO MORE AT ALL."

The Day of God's Wrath will be the day Jesus receives his Millennial Kingdom.

Rev 19:2-7 says, "For true and righteous are his JUDGMENTS (i.e., at the JUDGMENT SEAT OF CHRIST): for he hath judged the great whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand. And again they said, Alleluia. And her smoke rose up for ever and ever. And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped GOD THAT SAT ON THE THRONE (i.e., the God/man Jesus Christ), saying, Amen; Alleluia. And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our God, all ye his servants, and ye that fear him, both small and great. And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, ALLELUIA: FOR THE LORD GOD OMNIPOTENT REIGNETH. Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for THE MARRIAGE OF THE LAMB IS COME (i.e., the Marriage follows the Judgment Seat of Christ) and his wife hath made herself ready."

Incoming e-mail from Ron Reese, Re: Date of the Rapture

Thanks for the response email. I am writing to set the record straight. I have never said anything about Feast of Trumpets, Sept. 9, 2010, being the time of the Rapture. This is what I have consistently said for almost one year now:

We have every reason to expect the Rapture/Sudden Destruction in the Fall of 2010.

It is my opinion that the Rapture will take place sometime between Sept. 9th and Dec. 1st, which is Hannukah Eve. The first four Feasts were all fulfilled in one year, the year of Christ's birth, and I suspect the last three Feasts will also be fulfilled in one year, the year of the 2nd Coming of Christ, which is 2015. This does not rule out the possibility of the first Rapture happening this year on Feast of Trumpets.

In fact, FOT is not realy the prime date that I am looking at. I have two dates that I consider more likely than Feast of Trumpets, or Feast of Tabernacles. They are Oct. 19-20, and Dec. 1st, which is our calendar date that matches the prophetic date of Haggai, Chapter 2. There are several things that seem to be pointing to Oct. 19--20, 2010, which is my prime date for the Rapture/Sudden Destruction. I will be writing about them in the next few weeks, as well as several other Biblical reasons why the Fall of 2010 should be the time of the Sudden Destruction/Rapture. Maranatha!

My reply

Thanks for letting me know what you expect.

I think the Feast of Trumpets is likely for the rapture of the Bride of Christ so the entire Body of Christ will have the same September birthstone, the sapphire, which means heaven as a birthstone.

The word sapphire means dear to the planet Saturn from the Sanskrit Sani, Saturn, and priya, dear. In Eze. 1:26-28, we see that Saturn is where Jesus' throne is located. The brightness round about like a rainbow describes Saturn's ring system. Saturn is the third heaven Paul visited in II Cor. 12:2,3, (1) Mars, (2) Jupiter and (3) Saturn. I think it is where we will go at the time of the Rapture.

Jesus was born at the time of the former rain on the Feast of Trumpets, and the Last-Trump Rapture will be on the Feast of Trumpets. Since I thought of the September birthstone, I have been expecting the First-Trump Rapture to also be on Trumpets so the entire Body of Christ will have the same sapphire birthstone. We will know soon. Agape

My reply to incoming email, Re: Catastrophic Changes (omitted because of length), by Pastor F. M. Riley

> > Every serious student of Bible prophecy knows that the expression, “the day of the Lord,” is a reference to the coming seven year Tribulation period and beyond.

To me, the great and terrible Day of the Lord has to be one literal day, the day of the Last-Trump Rapture of the Tribulation saints, and the Day of God's Wrath, not the entire 7-year Tribulation. It is a day like no other. The sign of the Son of man is seen in the sky. Jesus sits as judge at the Judgment Seat of Christ in Heaven. Then the elements shall melt with fervent heat when the asteroids of Rev. 8:8-11 impact Earth.

2Pe 3:10 makes it clear that it is one literal day. It says, "But the DAY OF THE LORD will come as a thief in the night; in the which THE HEAVENS SHALL PASS AWAY WITH A GREAT NOISE, AND THE ELEMENTS SHALL MELT WITH FERVENT HEAT, THE EARTH ALSO AND THE WORKS THAT ARE THEREIN SHALL BE BURNED UP."

That day cannot be the first day of the Tribulation. It is the day of God's wrath. Joel 2:31 says, "The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible DAY OF THE LORD come."

Isa 13:9 says, "Behold, the DAY OF THE LORD cometh, cruel both with WRATH and fierce anger, TO LAY THE LAND DESOLATE: AND HE SHALL DESTROY THE SINNERS THEREOF OUT OF IT." Jer 46:10 says, "For THIS IS THE DAY OF THE LORD GOD OF HOSTS, A DAY OF VENGEANCE, that he may avenge him of his adversaries: and the sword shall devour, and it shall be satiate and made drunk with their blood: for the Lord GOD of hosts hath a sacrifice in the north country by the river Euphrates."

Joel 1:15 says, "Alas for the day! for the DAY OF THE LORD is at hand, and AS A DESTRUCTION FROM THE ALMIGHTY shall it come."

That day will be like no other.

Dan 12:1,2 says, "And at that time (when the False Prophet is deposed, Dan. 11:45) shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and THERE SHALL BE A TIME OF TROUBLE, SUCH AS NEVER WAS SINCE THERE WAS A NATION even to that same time: and AT THAT TIME THY PEOPLE SHALL BE DELIVERED, EVERY ONE THAT SHALL BE FOUND WRITTEN IN THE BOOK. And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake".

Jer 30:7 says, "Alas! for THAT DAY is great, so that NONE IS LIKE IT: IT IS EVEN THE TIME OF JACOB'S TROUBLE; but he shall be saved out of it."

> > In Isaiah 24:1 we read, “Behold, the Lord maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof.”
> > Many who read this Scripture, based on their human understanding of “upside down,” assume that this means the polar caps of the earth are going to be reversed; that is, as the earth is turned “upside down” the north pole becomes the south pole and vice versa. This IS NOT what is being stated in this verse! The prophecies of God’s Word make it plain that at or near the end of the Tribulation Russia and her confederated allies will still be NORTH of Israel, Egypt will still be SOUTH of Israel, the nations from the “sunrising” will still be EAST of Israel, etc. So the whole earth is obviously NOT going to turn over. What this statement actually and literally means is that during the Tribulation every square inch of the earth’s surface will be “turned over” so that the land which was once on the surface will be buried in the bowels of the earth, and that land which is presently in the bowels of the earth will be brought to the surface.

I believe that on the Day of the Lord, the asteroids of Rev. 8:8-11 and Isa. 22:16-19 will impact Earth and temporarily turn it upside down. That will be Jesus' Long Day, of which Joshua's Long Day was a type. The globe will regain its equilibrium after a while.

I am hoping for the Rapture on the Feast of Trumpets. There are three parts to the Body of Christ. Jesus, the Bride of Christ and the Tribulation saints.

Jesus, the head, was born on Tishri 1 in 5 BC. His September birthstone is the sapphire, which means heaven. We know that the Tribulation saints will be caught up on the Feast of Trumpets, probably Sept. 14, 2015. Their birthstone will be the sapphire.

That makes it seem that we will also have the sapphire birthstone. This way the entire Body of Christ will be born into a new world on the Feast of Trumpets. Tishri 1 this year will be Sept. 9.

Please pray that my husband Ed will make it to the Rapture. He had 5-bypass heart surgery in 1998. He is 86 now, and recovering from pneumonia, C diff bowel infection and a uninary tract infection. Our son Dave made him a trapeze with rings on the ends and hung it above his bed. He also gave him a stretchy cord with hand grips on each end. Working those muscles even a little bit pays off. I helped him sit up, then he sat up on the edge of the bed by himself last night. That's the first time he did that for me since the middle of March. He is very weak. Agape

His reply

Why.....??? My comments follow...

Sister, if this is what you want to believe then you have every right to believe it. But that won't make it so, whether you believe it or not. I have studied EVERY SINGLE PASSAGE in God's Word where "the day of the Lord" is mentioned, and many of those passages make it quite obvious that "the day of the Lord" is a period time exactly like "the day of salvation" is a period of time [2 Corinthians 6:2], and the "day of grace" is a period of time. Exactly the same Greek word is used with all of these expressions. If the "day of salvation" was only one specific day in past history, then we have all missed it, are still lost in sin, and going to hell. Would you agree with that? I didn't think so!

> > That day cannot be the first day of the Tribulation. It is the day of God's wrath.

I never said it was the first day of the Tribulation. The "day of the Lord" is the entire Tribulation period. I KNOW this to be so because when you read every reference to "the day of the Lord," and the events which are described as happening on that "day," there is absolutely no way that every single one of those events could or is even predicted to occur on one single day. PERIOD!

> > I believe that on the Day of the Lord, the asteroids of Rev. 8:8-11 and Isa. 22:16-19 will impact Earth and temporarily turn it upside down.

Dear sister, in all due respect, that idea is nothing but your own "human reasoning." I plainly gave Scriptural examples in my study, book chapter, and verse, of the meaning of the Lord "overturning" the earth. And I could have given plenty more. You cannot produce a single Scripture to prove your "theory." The last time I checked 1 Thessalonians 5:21 was still in the Bible. That will be Jesus' Long Day, of which Joshua's Long Day was a type. The globe will regain its equilibrium after a while. I am well aware that the last day of the Tribulation will be a special day in human history, Zechariah 14:6-7. But there is not a thing in those two verses which says that the earth is going to be struck by an asteroid on that day [Revelation 8:8-11 is fulfilled in the first half of the Tribulation; not on the last day of it] and turned upside down. Sister, I will confess that I never learned the "fine art" of reading things into the Scriptures which THEY DO NOT SAY.

Likewise Isaiah 24:16-19 will be fulfilled DURING the Tribulation and not on the last day of it.

> > I am hoping for the Rapture on the Feast of Trumpets. There are three parts to the Body of Christ. Jesus, the Bride of Christ and the Tribulation saints.

I'm hoping for the rapture TODAY, TOMORROW, OR THE NEXT DAY. I don't fall into the category of those who are constantly and repeatedly saying, "My Lord delayeth His coming." No, I DO NOT know the date when the Lord is coming and am not even trying to find out. I DO KNOW we are living in the "time frame" of the Lord's coming, and that is all I need to know. Hebrews 10:35-39 is still in the Bible. So is Mark 13:35-37.

> > Jesus, the head, was born on Tishri 1 in 5 BC. His September birthstone is the sapphire, which means heaven. We know that the Tribulation saints will be caught up on the Feast of Trumpets, probably Sept. 14, 2015. Their birthstone will be the sapphire.

I do not know any such thing, and I am not at all certain that you do. The actual evidence that we have in the Biblical record and written history is that Christ was 33 years of age when He was crucified in 30 A.D. Now fit that into your "theory" that He was born in 5 B.C.

> > That makes it seem that we will also have the sapphire birthstone. This way the entire Body of Christ will be born into a new world on the Feast of Trumpets. Tishri 1 this year will be Sept. 9.

Proof??? Book, chapter, and verse? I read something in the Bible about "not speaking above that which is written."

Dear sister, if you want to discuss and study the Scriptures with me, I will be glad to STUDY with you. But I have no use for "dogmatic" declarations which have no Scriptural proof whatsover. I go by what the Scriptures actually and literally say and teach, and not by what some dogmatically declare that they say and teach. The first method is from the Lord! All others spring out of man's own pride, human reasoning, human understanding, philosophy, theories, ideas, opinions, and so-called "interpretations." I learned many years ago that probably 95 percent of the Bible doesn't even need "interpreted." It just needs to be faithfully studied and believed for what it actually and literally says.

Proverbs 2:1-7 and 3:5-7 right along with 1 Thessalonians 5:21 and 2 Timothy 2:15 are still in the Bible. God's people today should either get BACK with God's program or take down their sign.

Sister, I fully understand your feelings for your husband and the problems that he has. After my heart attack in October of 2008 and five by passes, I thought I would never regain any strength again. I never did until I started taking Collodial Silver and Sambucol. I don't know whether you are familiar with either one of these two NATURAL products or not, but I sure believe they are two products the Lord arranged for His people to have access to in order to maintain our health while we are here. Neither of these products have any side effects or will interfere with any medications your husband is taking. You might want to pray about getting them for your husband. You can buy them at any good health food store. I will continue to pray for you and your husband. See you soon in glory. God bless you both. Pray for me. Bro. Riley

My reply

Thank you much for your honest answer. I love it when people know exactly why they believe as they do.

It is not a big thing whether the Day of the Lord is thought to be seven years, as you believe, or one day, as I believe.

If it is seven years long, it will still end as Jer. 46:10 says, "For this is the DAY OF THE LORD GOD of hosts, a DAY OF VENGEANCE, that he may avenge him of his adversaries: and the sword shall devour, and it shall be satiate and made drunk with their blood: for the Lord GOD of hosts hath a sacrifice in the north country (Iraq, in the northern hemisphere), by the river Euphrates." Joel 2:31 says, "The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible DAY OF THE LORD come." There will be a Solar Eclipse on the Eve of Trumpets, Sept. 13, 2015.

Isa 13:6 says, "Howl ye; for the DAY OF THE LORD is at hand; IT SHALL COME AS A DESTRUCTION FROM THE ALMIGHTY." Isa 34:8 says, "For it is THE DAY OF THE LORD'S VENGEANCE, and the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion."

On that DAY OF VENGEANCE AND DESTRUCTION, the 7th seal will be broken. Rev 8 tells us what will happen that day.

Rev 8:1-11 says, "1 And when he had opened the SEVENTH SEAL, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour (there is silence on Earth too [Amos 2:20] as Jesus is being seated as judge at the Judgment Seat of Christ). 2 And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given SEVEN TRUMPETS. 3 And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne. 4 And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand. 5 And the angel took the censer (probably globe shaped, representing the ball-like asteroid), and filled it with fire of the altar, and CAST IT INTO THE EARTH: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and AN EARTHQUAKE (i.e., the worldwide earthquake of Eze. 38:20). 6 And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound. 7 The first angel sounded, and there followed HAIL AND FIRE mingled with blood, and they WERE CAST UPON THE EARTH: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up. 8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were A GREAT MOUNTAIN (i.e., a piece of the asteroid Wormwood that split off) burning with fire WAS CAST INTO THE SEA (the Mediterranean): and the third part of the sea became blood; 9 And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed. 10 And the third angel sounded, and THERE FELL A GREAT STAR(ASTER) FROM HEAVEN, BURNING as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers (i.e., the Tigris and Euphrates), and upon the fountains of waters; 11 AND THE NAME OF THE STAR (ASTER) IS CALLED WORMWOOD: and the third part of the waters became wormwood (meaning bitter); and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter."

Isa 22:16-19 tells us more about the asteroid. It says, 16 "What hast thou here? (Babylon) and whom hast thou here (the Satan-possessed False Prophet), that thou (the False Prophet) hast hewed thee out a sepulchre here, as HE (Satan) THAT HEWETH HIM OUT A SEPULCHRE ON HIGH, AND THAT GRAVETH AN HABITATION FOR HIMSELF IN A ROCK (i.e., the asteroid called Wormwood)? 17 Behold, the LORD will carry thee away (tul, CAST THEE DOWN) with a mighty captivity (t?alt?elah, REJECTION), and will surely cover (at?ah, OVERTHROW) thee. 18 HE WILL SURELY VIOLENTLY TURN AND TOSS THEE LIKE A BALL into a large country (to destroy Babylon, in Iraq): there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord's house. 19 And I WILL DRIVE THEE FROM THY STATION, and from thy state shall he pull thee down."

Rev 18:21 says, "And a mighty angel took up a STONE like a great millstone (representing the asteroid), and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all."

Re: Joshua's Long Day, the type of Jesus' Long Day. In Jos 10:11, we read, "And it came to pass, as they fled from before Israel, and were in the going down to Bethhoron, that THE LORD CAST DOWN GREAT STONES FROM HEAVEN UPON THEM unto Azekah, and they died: they were more which died with hailstones than they whom the children of Israel slew with the sword."

> > After my heart attack in October of 2008 and five by passes, I thought I would never regain any strength again. I never did until I started taking Collodial Silver and Sambucol.

Thanks. I make Colloidal Silver, but haven't been giving it to Ed this time. I'll make a new batch and give it to him. I have been giving him Grapefruit Seed Extract. I have never heard of Sambucol, but I will sure try it. The Lord gave us things that would cure us if we could just figure out what they are.

When I was in the hospital with pneumonia in both lungs, on the second night, the nurse gave me oxygen so I could breathe better. The rest of that night, I breathed that oxygen in as deep as possible and coughed up what I could, because I kept remembering what I had seen a few days before that on the Science Channel. It said that people get pathogens in their lungs and get sick. They take an antibiotic and feel a little better. They take another antibiotic and feel a little better, but what finally finishes off those organisms is OXYGEN.

God gave us air and water with life giving oxygen in them. Those are necessary for life. I thought, then what are we doing drinking Cokes? They put carbon dioxide in them for fizz. That's what we breathe out. Our bodies don't want it. I quit drinking cokes and went back to water.

When the doctor came in the next day, I said, "I'm better." He could hardly believe how much better my lungs sounded. He was glad I was getting better, because they were having a bunch that were not getting better. I got to go home the following day. However, my lung X-ray still looks the same as when my doctor gave me another antibiotic. She is sending me to a specialist Monday.

Keep up the good work. We love to read what you write. May God bless you richly. Agape

His reply

Dear sister Marilyn, Thank you for your gracious reply. God bless you.

Sister, Sambucol is a product developed by an Israeli medical biologist. He began with an elderberry base and developed it from there. When taken faithfully it will kill out and rid the lungs and ultimately the whole body of all harmful pathogens allowing the immune system of the body to heal itself. I think it is wonderful stuff. I could tell the difference in my body just two days after I started taking it. It is especially good for lung problems, for the Israeli biologist started developing it to counter the effects of biological warfare against the Israeli people. But when taken regularly it will rid the whole body of harmful pathogens. I am sure you can pick up the literature on it at any good health food store that sells the product.

See you and your husband soon up above, for our Lord's coming is very near. God bless you both. Pray for me. 8ro. Riley

Incoming e-mail, Re: Regarding your June 16th Post

Bill Griese (17 June 2010)
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/june2010/billg617-2.htm

I believe the Second Coming of our Lord Jesus Christ will be on Yom Kippur 2015, and He will announce the Jubilee year at that time. I have another post today that I would like you to read entitled "Scriptures concerning the second coming contain Yom Kippur terminology."

I agree with your Nisan 1 (April 9, 2016) date for the beginning of the Millennium. As your post indicated, Israel will need 7 months to bury the dead before the Millennial Kingdom begins, and this also starts the Jubilee year.

We will have to continue to disagree on rapture timing. I believe the "falling away" in 2 Thess chapter 2 is apostasy or a departure-from-the-faith which occurs at the mid-point of the 70th week after the "Abomination of Desolation." Also, I see your "2300 days" as having already been fulfilled by Antiochus Epiphanes, Dan 8:14.

I do agree that there are two separate individuals as the Antichrist and the False Prophet. The Antichrist is one of the heads of the Beast that comes out of the sea in Rev 13:1-10 and is a political leader/King. The False Prophet is a religious leader and the 2nd Beast that comes out of the land, Rev 13:11-18. Rev 19:20 and Rev 20:10 certainly prove they are two individuals. I already held this position, although I rarely mention the False Prophet.
YBIC, Bill Griese

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