Pro and Con 1564

Posted 8-19-2010

Lightning over Athens, and someone that must have had a death wish

Incoming e-mail, Re: Pro & Con Questions 6-28-10

...we hope this note finds Ed & you doing better!

Is there any scriptural documentation that we are now within Danielís Seventieth Week or that Mid-Tribulation will occur around November 11, 2012? So many observers point to the Eclipses of 2015 as an end-point to the Great Tribulation, but could these events herald the beginning of Danielís Seventieth Week and be consistent with prophetic scripture? Thanks in advance

My reply

We are doing a little better. Ed still can't stand up, but he sat up on the side of the bed 28 minutes before getting too tired. (Dr. called and is ordering a lift. Thank you, Lord.)

I don't think we can put off the Second Advent past 2016. It isn't just the tetrad eclipses that I am going by. I am going by things like the following.

The Parable of the Fig Tree in Mt. 24:32-34 shows us that we only have one generation after Israel grew leaves in the Six-Day War. That cannot be longer, because Israel couldn't be more than 19 and still be counted young (apalos, tender, young). She was 19 in 1967. A generation in Mt. 1:17 is 48.33 years. 1967 + 48.33 years = the Feast of Trumpets, Tishri 1, 5776 (Mon. Sept. 14, 2015).

The Balfour Declaration was Cheshvan 17, 5678 (Nov 2, 1917). Keep Cheshvan 17 in mind; it may be a clue to the day of our Rapture.

5677 divides by 7 equally, so it was Sabbatic.
Nisan 1, 5678 to Nisan 1, 5679 was a Jubilee Yr.

5677 + 49 = 5726, a Sabbatic Year.
Nisan 1, 5727 (Apr 11, 1967) to Nisan 1, 5728 (Mar 30, 1968) was a Jubilee Yr.
The Six-Day War started Iyar 27, 5727 (June 6, 1967) in the Jubilee Yr.

5726 + 49 = 5775, a Sabbatic Year.
Nisan 1, 5776 (Sat. April 9, 2016 to Nisan 1, 5777 (Tue, March 28, 2017) will be a Jubilee Yr.

I think the first Rapture is likely on Cheshvan 17, 5771 (Oct. 25, 2010), because Jesus said it was as the days of Noah. Noah went into the Ark and the Lord closed the door on Cheshvan 17.

I think Jesus will return on the first day of this Jubilee Yr, Sat. April 9, 2016.

In Luke 6:5, Jesus "said unto them, That the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath" (i.e., Saturday, Saturn's Day).

The Sabbath is the Hebrew Shabbat. Saturn is Shabbatai. When early Hebrew was written, the vowels were left out. Shabbat would be like Shbbt. Shabbatai would be like Shbbt also. In my mind, there is a definite connection on purpose. I think Jesus is Lord of Saturn as well as Lord of the Sabbath.

Rev 4:6 says, "And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal (Saturn's rings of ice crystals): and in the midst of the throne (i.e., Jesus' sapphire throne of Eze. 1:26-28, Saturn), and round about the throne, were four beasts (lively things, rotating and orbiting planets) full of eyes (full orbs, globes) before and behind." They were Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune.

At Mt. Sinai (probably from the Sanskrit Sani, Saturn), Ex 24:9,10 says, "Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel: And they saw the God of Israel (the Son of God YHWH of hosts, the redeemer, Isa. 44:6): and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven (the heavenly body, Saturn) in his (or its) clearness." Sapphire means dear to the planet Saturn, from the Sanskrit Sani, Saturn, and priya, dear.

According to Josephus, a Pharisee priest, the lampstand stood for (1) the Sun, (2) Mercury, (3)Venus, (4) Earth, (5) Mars, (6) Jupiter and (7) Saturn, the easternmost lamp. The western lamp was to always be kept lit, because it represented the Sun.

Eze 10:1 says, "Then I looked, and, behold, in the firmament that was above the head of the cherubims (four terrestrial planets) there appeared over them as it were a sapphire stone (Saturn), as the appearance of the likeness of a throne."

Eze 10:20 says, "This (i.e., Saturn) is the living creature (lively flying thing) that I saw under the God of Israel (i.e., the Son of God, the Redeemer, Isa. 44:6) by the river of Chebar; and I knew that they were the cherubims" (planets that rotate as they orbit around the four compass points).

Eze. 28:13-18 says to Satan, "Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone (planet) was thy covering (surroundings), the sardius (l. Mercury), topaz (2. Venus), and the diamond (3. Earth), the beryl (4. Mars), the onyx (5. Rahab, Satan's planet that split forming our Asteroid Belt), and the jasper (6. Jupiter), the sapphire (7. Saturn), the emerald (8. Uranus), and the carbuncle (9. Neptune), and gold (10. Pluto): the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God (Saturn); thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire (on Rahab). Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God (Saturn): and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire (from Rahab and from the asteroid Wormwood). Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I WILL CAST THEE TO THE GROUND, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I WILL BRING THEE TO ASHES UPON THE EARTH in the sight of all them that behold thee."

Isa 22:16-19 says, "What hast thou here (Babylon)? and whom hast thou here (the Satan-possessed False Prophet), that thou hast hewed thee out a sepulchre here, as he (Satan) that heweth him out a sepulchre on high (in the asteroid Wormwood), and that graveth an habitation for himself in a rock? Behold, the LORD will carry thee away with a mighty captivity, and will surely cover thee. He will surely violently turn and toss thee like a ball into a large country (Iraq, not tiny Israel): there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord's house. And I will drive thee from thy station, and from thy state shall he pull thee down."

2Co 12:2-4 says, "I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago [Paul himself, he didn't want to boast], (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven (1. Mars, 2. Jupiter, and 3. Saturn). And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter." God bless. Agape

A POSSIBLE MEANING OF ST. GABRIEL'S $2.34

By Marilyn Agee

The USA began in 1776, and 1776 + 234 = 2010. That reminded me that an angel, who revealed that he was St. Gabriel, left Vincent Tan, born in Singapore, but working in the USA, $2.34 for gas in his car. This modern-day miracle just might point to this year for the Rapture. Back in 1993, the angel said that Jesus was coming very, very soon.

THE WAY THE ANGEL TOLD VINCENT HIS NAME

When Vincent asked the angel's name, he said, "I have the name of your primary and secondary school." That just happened to be "St. Gabriel" in Singapore. I have no reason to doubt that it really was Gabriel.

"How do you know that?" Vincent asked the angel. "I know, he replied, and added, "By the way, Mum is fine." Vincent was startled again. Just the week before, his sister had called from Singapore saying that his mother had heart complications".

Gabriel was mentioned four times in Scripture. He appeared to Daniel as a man.

Dan 8:16 says, "I heard a man's voice between the banks of Ulai, which called, and said, Gabriel, make this man to understand the vision."

Dan 9:21 says, "Yea, whiles I was speaking in prayer, even the man Gabriel, whom I had seen in the vision at the beginning, being caused to fly swiftly, touched me about the time of the evening oblation."

Luke 1:19 says, "And the angel answering said unto him, I am Gabriel, that stand in the presence of God; and am sent to speak unto thee, and to shew thee these glad tidings."

I will only cover part of the angel encounters Vincent Tan had. Do read the whole account as given by Jim Bramlett:

"Angels appear as humans
"-- then vanish --
"after making startling announcement
that Jesus is coming "very, very soon"!!!
"And other supernatural confirmations of Christ's soon return!
"by Jim Bramlett
http://www.choicesforliving.com/spirit/part3/angels.htm

"Encounter # 2 (Confirmed)...

It happened just past midnight on March 26, 1993, to Vincent Tan, an analytical chemist who works in Chattanooga....Vincent was born Tan Ban Soon in Singapore of Chinese, Buddhist parents. A few years ago as a young boy in Singapore, he was in the library reading a book on nuclear physics and discovered an offer for a Bible course stuck between some pages. He ordered the course and later became a Christian. He came to the U.S. to attend a Christian college, then gave himself the western name of Vincent. After four years, he graduated with a major in science. He has been very active in his church and in sharing his faith.

On the night of Thursday, March 25, 1993, Vincent was working...late in his laboratory to complete tests due on Friday. During the evening he moved his car close to the front door of the building, since there had recently been criminal activity in the area. From time to time he looked out the window into the almost empty parking lot to check on his car. At 1:30 a.m. he finished working in his lab. As he was preparing to lock the door, he saw a person standing by the passenger side of his car. Vincent assumed the man was trying to steal his car. He noted that the stranger was of medium build with clean-cut, straight hair and had on a T-shirt, blue jeans and white tennis shoes.

"Unsure what to do, he went back into the lab and prayed, "Lord, help me to do what I have to do. Do I have to use chi-sao?" Chi-sao (pronounced "chee'-sow-o") is a form of martial art in which Vincent is proficient. To be extra safe, he looked around the lab and picked up an 18-inch metal rod, held it behind him and stuck his head out the door. He said, "Hi, can I help you?"

"The stranger answered, "Hi, Vincent."

"Startled, Vincent asked, "Do I know you?"

"The stranger replied, "Not really."

"What is your name? Who are you?" Vincent probed.

"The stranger said, "I have the name of your primary and secondary school." He added, "I'm a friend. You don't have to use chi-sao or the rod on me."...

"Now Vincent was really startled. No one, not even his best friend in this country, was familiar with chi-sao, nor did anyone even know that he knew it. Also, there was no way the stranger could have seen the rod behind his back. Vincent later reflected that the stranger had used terminology ("primary and secondary school") of Singapore and not the U.S., and that name of his school back in Singapore was St. Gabriel. The stranger was saying that his name was Gabriel!

"How do you know that?" Vincent asked.

"I know," the stranger replied. "By the way, Mum is fine." Vincent was startled again. Just the week before, his sister had called from Singapore saying that his mother had heart complications...

Gabriel continued, "You love the Lord very much, don't you?" "That's right," Vincent replied.

"He loves you very much, too," Gabriel said. Then he added, "HE IS COMING VERY, VERY SOON." He seemed to emphasize the "very soon." (caps mine)

"Vincent answered, "That's great!"

"Gabriel then asked, "Can I have a cup of water?"

"Vincent said, "Sure," and turned momentarily to get him the water. Then he decided to invite the stranger inside to drink from the water fountain. He turned back to invite him inside -- but Gabriel was not there. He had suddenly and unexplainably vanished!"...

"Encounter # 3: Vincent's second (confirmed)

"The December 23, 1993 Experience. Shortly after 11 p.m.,

"December 23, 1993, Vincent was in his truck returning home from visiting a friend near Chattanooga. About four miles away from the friend's home, he saw a truck alongside the road with its hood up and with an old man, estimated at about age 75, standing in front of it. Vincent was always wary of stopping for strangers, and believed one must really be led of the Lord in order to do so. He felt he should stop. He walked up to the man and asked if anything was wrong, to which the man replied that he a dead battery. Vincent asked if he could help in any way. The man asked that Vincent go get his jumper cable out of the truck. Vincent was surprised that he said this, as if knowing that Vincent had a jumper cable, especially since he had only recently obtained one. Vincent himself had forgotten that he had the cable, but when the old man told him about it he remembered. It was very dark and Vincent had to use his flashlight to see to connect his end of the cable. Then he turned around to discover that the man had already connected his end, even in the dark and with no flashlight. That seemed impossible, and startled Vincent.

"Vincent said, "I need to do something first." The man looked at him and said, "I did it already." Vincent said, "Did what?" The man said, "I placed the bricks by your tires. That's what you want, isn't it?" The man had no way of knowing that Vincent had two bricks in his truck or that he wanted to block his tires with them because he didn't trust his hand brake and because the gear would have to be in neutral to start the other truck. Vincent checked and discovered that the man had placed the bricks behind the exact same tires that Vincent wanted. At this point, Vincent was convinced that this was not a natural person. And after the experience in March, Vincent had decided that if the Lord ever gave him the privilege of another encounter with an angel, he had many questions he wanted to ask. But he had a sudden feeling come over him and some force caused his mouth to be kept shut. He was not able to say anything except to respond to whatever the old man wanted or said.

"Vincent was now ready to start the truck, and the old man said, "Can we wait in your truck and have my truck charged up?"

"Vincent agreed and they sat in his truck. The old man spoke first and said, "Can we pray? God can work miracles -- even start a car with a coat hanger." (The previous incident with the coat hanger job was a car and not a truck!) At this, Vincent said to himself that this stranger must be an angel!

"The old man prayed: "Oh most holy and powerful God in heaven, we know you are coming very, very soon. Help us now in your own time and way. In Jesus' Name. Amen." Vincent said the man's voice was so powerful and assuring that it sent chills through him. After the prayer the man asked Vincent, "Do you believe the Lord is coming soon?" Vincent said yes. Then the man said, "He is coming very, very soon, and we need to be ready now and always." Then he said, "Can I use your Bible?" Vincent agreed, then without any word from Vincent the man reached into the glove compartment for the Bible, already knowing where it was located.

"The man asked Vincent, "Do you read your Bible.?" Vincent replied that he tried to read it every day. The man said, "That's very good. It's unfortunate that many do not do that. Having Bible studies is like being in a big room with many candles that are lit." Vincent knew he had God's answer about his dreams six months earlier. The unlit candles meant many people were not spending time studying God's Word! Now Vincent had absolutely no doubt that this was an angel.

"It was very dark, but the man took Vincent's King James Bible and, without searching, flipped immediately to the exact page, to Matthew, chapter 24. Then Vincent shined the flashlight on the page as the man read verse 36: "But of that DAY AND HOUR knoweth no man, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only." He then jumped down to verse 42: "Watch therefore, for ye know not what HOUR your Lord doth come."

"Then again, as if knowing exactly where the page was, without searching he flipped to John, chapter 14, and read verses 1-3: "Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also."

"Then again, he amazingly flipped directly to Revelation 3, verse 11, and read: "Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown." With that, the man put the Bible back in the glove compartment. Vincent reflected that all three passages, and everything the man said, was about the Lord's return.

"After reading, the man put the Bible back and said, "The truck is ready." He started the truck and Vincent said he would follow him for awhile to make sure everything was okay. The man said, "Thank you very much for your help. By the way, I left a small token for you. It will be enough to fill up your car tomorrow." That was strange, because there was no way for the man to know that Vincent had a car in addition to his truck. Vincent followed him about a mile with the man's tail lights clearly in view, then as they were going around a curve, he suddenly vanished from view. He and his truck just disappeared."

"the next day, as he always does on Friday, Vincent took his car to the service station to fill up the tank with gasoline, so it would be full for the weekend. He had forgotten what the man had said about leaving a token "to fill up your car tomorrow." Vincent put $2.32 worth of gas in his car, then tried to round it off to $2.35 or $2.40. But he could only get it up to $2.34 and it stopped. It just would not take more than exactly $2.34.

"Vincent then left to visit a friend's house, but remembered that he had left the friend's Christmas gift in his truck, so he went back home. When home, Vincent decided to clean his truck a bit before leaving. While doing so, he found some money on the front seat, passenger's side, underneath his glove. The money consisted of two one-dollar bills, a quarter, a nickel, and four pennies -- exactly $2.34!"...

"Readers are permitted and encouraged to copy and share this article freely with others." Jim Bramlett

THE EVENING SKY THE NIGHT JESUS WAS BORN TIES IN WITH THE "GREAT WONDER IN HEAVEN" OF REV. 12

Rev 12:1,2,5 tells us how the sky looked the night Jesus was born. "And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman (Virgo) clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered....And she brought forth a man child (Jesus), who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne" (on Ascension Day).

Saturn was a morning star in Aries (the Ram) when Jesus was born on the Feast of Trumpets Sept. 4, 5 BC (see above), and it looks like it will be a morning star in Virgo when The Bride of Christ will be caught up to Heaven on Cheshvan 17, Oct. 25, 2010 (see below), as in the days of Noah.

KJV: Rev 2:28 "And I will give him the morning star." On Cheshvan 17 (Oct. 25, 2010, the only morning star in the sky from 2:25 AM to Sunup is Saturn.

KJV: Rev 22:16 "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root (YHWH) and the offspring of David (Jesus), and the bright and morning star" (i.e., Saturn).

Incoming e-mail from Ron Reese, Re: ANOTHER GREAT DELIVERANCE ALSO CAME AFTER TWO FULL YEARS!!!

THIS POST IS NOT ABOUT THE FAMINE WEEK OF JOSEPH. IT IS ABOUT ANOTHER GREAT DELIVERANCE THAT CAME AT THE END OF TWO FULL YEARS. WE CONTINUE TO DISCOVER MORE AND MORE BIBLICAL EVIDENCE THAT GREAT DELIVERANCES COME AT THE END OF TWO YEARS.

THIS GREAT DELIVERANCE DID NOT OCCUR INSIDE OF THE 7-YEAR FAMINE WEEK IN JOSEPH'S TIME. THIS GREAT DELIVERANCE DID NOT INVOLVE THE BRETHREN OF JOSEPH. YET ANOTHER GREAT DELIVERANCE TOOK PLACE DURING THE STORY OF JOSEPH, AND THIS TIME IT INVOLVES JOSEPH HIMSELF BEING DELIVERED AFTER TWO FULL YEARS.

JOSEPH HAD GONE THROUGH MANY GREAT TRIALS DURING HIS LIFE. HE HAD BEEN UNJUSTLY ACCUSED MANY TIMES, JUST LIKE JESUS. AND JUST LIKE JESUS, JOSEPH WAS ALWAYS INNOCENT. IN GEN. 40, WE SEE JOSEPH PUT INTO PRISON BECAUSE OF AN UNJUST ACCUSATION BY HIS MASTER POTIPHAR'S WIFE. GOD GAVE JOSEPH THE PROPER INTERPRETATION OF TWO DREAMS, BUT IN VERSE 40 WE READ, "YET DID NOT THE CHIEF BUTLER REMEMBER JOSEPH, BUT FORGOT HIM."

THE BUTLER SHOULD HAVE TOLD THE PHAROAH THAT GOD HAD GIVEN JOSEPH THE PROPER INTERPRETATION OF TWO DREAMS, BUT HE FORGOT ABOUT JOSEPH, SO JOSEPH'S CHANCE FOR HIS GREAT DELIVERANCE OUT OF THE PRISON, WHERE HE WAS UNJUSTLY LANGUISHING, WAS TEMPORARILY GONE. JOSEPH HAD TO WAIT STILL LONGER FOR HIS GREAT DELIVERANCE.

HE COULD HAVE GOTTEN ANGRY AT THE BUTLER, OR AT GOD. AFTER ALL, HE HAD BEEN SERVING THE LORD FAITHFULLY ALL OF HIS LIFE. AND IT LOOKED LIKE, BECAUSE GOD HAD USED JOSEPH TO INTERPRET TWO DREAMS ABOUT THE BAKER AND THE BUTLER, THAT HIS TIME MIGHT HAVE FINALLY COME. BUT NO, GOD WAS NOT THROUGH MAKING JOSEPH WAIT JUST YET. HOW MUCH LONGER DID JOSEPH HAVE TO WAIT?

GENESIS 41:1, WHICH IS THE VERY NEXT VERSE AFTER THE BUTLER FORGOT ABOUT JOSEPH, SAYS, "AND IT CAME TO PASS AT THE END OF TWO FULL YEARS..." THIS CHAPTER PROCEEDS TO TELL IN GREAT DETAIL ABOUT THE GREAT DELIVERANCE OF JOSEPH AT THE END OF TWO FULL YEARS. BECAUSE GOD GAVE HIM THE INTERPRETATION OF THE PHAROAH'S DREAMS, JOSEPH GOES FROM BEING A PRISONER, TO THE 2ND HIGHEST POSITION IN ALL THE LAND. I WOULD SAY THAT QUALIFIES AS A GREAT DELIVERANCE. HOW ABOUT YOU?

IT APPEARED LIKE JOSEPH'S GREAT DELIVERANCE MIGHT COME TWO YEARS EARLIER. BUT IT WAS NOT QUITE YET GOD'S TIME FOR IT. GOD WAS STILL SPIRITUALLY PREPARING JOSEPH. GOD WAS STILL BUILDING CHARACTER IN JOSEPH. JESUS BEGAN HIS MINISTRY WHEN HE WAS 30 YEARS OLD. JOSEPH, BEING THE MOST COMPLETE TYPE OF CHRIST IN THE ENTIRE WORD OF GOD, WAS ONLY 28 YEARS OLD, WHEN THE BUTLER FORGOT ABOUT JOSEPH. GOD HAD PLANNED RIGHT ALONG FOR JOSEPH TO BE ASCENDED TO THE 2ND HIGHEST POSITION IN ALL THE LAND, WHEN HE TURNED 30, JUST LIKE JESUS STARTED HIS MINISTRY WHEN HE WAS 30. THEY BOTH PRETTY MUCH LIVED IN OBSCURITY UNTIL THEY REACHED THE AGE OF 30.

WHEN GOD REVEALED TO JOSEPH, THE PROPER INTERPRETATION OF THE DREAMS OF THE BUTLER AND THE BAKER, JOSEPH PROBABLY THOUGHT HIS TIME HAD FINALLY COME. HE WAS CONFIDENT THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A GREAT DELIVERANCE FROM GOD SOMEDAY. GOD WAS GOING TO RIGHT ALL OF THE WRONGS THAT JOSEPH HAD SUFFERED. IT IS VERY LIKELY THAT HE STILL REMEMBERED THE DREAMS THAT GOD HAD GIVEN TO HIM WHEN HE WAS A YOUNG CHILD ABOUT BECOMING A RULER OVER HIS BRETHREN. BUT THE WORD SAYS THAT JOSEPH HAD TO WAIT ANOTHER TWO FULL YEARS BEFORE HIS GREAT DELIVERANCE TOOK PLACE.

SO HERE WE SIT IN AUGUST OF 2010, STILL WAITING FOR OUR GREAT DELIVERANCE. MANY, IF NOT MOST, OF US FULLY EXPECTED THE RAPTURE, OUR GREAT DELIVERANCE, TO TAKE PLACE IN THE FALL OF 2008. THE STOCK MARKET HAD DROPPED 777.77 POINTS IN ONE DAY. SURELY THAT WAS A SIGN. THE LORD WAS REVEALING TO MILLIONS OF CHRISTIANS THAT OBAMA WAS THE ANTICHRIST. THE LORD WAS SHOWING SOME OF US THAT THE ONE EVENT THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN TO START THE FINAL 7 YEARS, ACTUALLY DID HAPPEN, WHICH WAS THE CONFIRMING OF THE COVENANT OF DAN. 9:27. SO WHY WERE WE STILL HERE??? WHY HAD NOT THE RAPTURE HAPPENED YET?

WE HAD BEEN TAUGHT ALL OF THESE YEARS THAT FIRST CAME THE RAPTURE AND THE CONFIRMING OF THE COVENANT OF DAN. 9:27, AND THEN THE FINAL 7 YEARS. BUT WE WERE STILL HERE. AND NOW, ALMOST TWO YEARS LATER WE ARE STILL HERE. STILL NO GREAT DELIVERANCE. STILL NO RAPTURE.

THERE HAS BEEN NO GREAT DELIVERANCE YET, BECAUSE GOD IS NOT QUITE FINISHED WITH US YET. BY WAITING, GOD HAS BEEN BUILDING CHARACTER IN MANY OF US. HE HAS BEEN SPIRITUALLY PREPARING OUR HEARTS FOR OUR WEDDING DAY. MANY MORE SOULS HAVE COME INTO THE KINGDOM, BECAUSE GOD WAS NOT QUITE READY FOR THE GREAT DELIVERANCE YET.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE GREAT DELIVERANCE, THE RAPTURE OF THE BRIDE OF CHRIST, HAS NOT YET HAPPENED, BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN NO NEED FOR IT TO HAPPEN YET. WHEN THE TIME OF SUDDEN DESTRUCTION (1ST THESS. 5:3) (WORLD WAR 3?) TAKES PLACE, THERE WILL BE A NEED FOR A GREAT AND MIGHTY DELIVERANCE. THE VERY SAME DAY THAT THE SUDDEN DESTRUCTION CAME TO SODOM AND GOMORRAH, LOT EXPERIENCED HIS GREAT DELIVERANCE. THE WORD SAYS, "EVEN THUS SHALL IT BE IN THE DAY THE SON OF MAN IS REVEALED."

THE FIRST TWO YEARS OF THE 7-YEAR FAMINE IT HAD NOT YET GOTTEN BAD ENOUGH FOR JOSEPH'S FAMILY TO BE DELIVERED. THAT ALL CHANGED AT THE END OF TWO YEARS OF THE FAMINE WEEK, AND WITH FIVE YEARS STILL TO GO IN THE FAMINE WEEK.

SO, TAKE HEART, FELLOW WATCHMAN, THE SCRIPTURES PLAINLY TELL US THAT JOSEPH HAD TO WAIT A FULL TWO YEARS BEFORE HIS GREAT DELIVERANCE CAME (GEN. 41:1). JOSEPH'S BRETHREN ALSO HAD TO WAIT TWO YEARS BEFORE THE GREAT REVEALING AND SEPARATION TOOK PLACE IN GEN. 45:1. JOSEPH'S (JESUS') BRETHREN'S GREAT AND MIGHTY DELIVERANCE TOOK PLACE TWO YEARS INTO THE FAMINE WEEK (THE FINAL 7 YEARS), WITH 5 YEARS YET REMAINING IN THE FAMINE WEEK (THE FINAL 7 YEARS) (GEN 45:7).

THE TWO FULL YEARS OF THE FINAL 7 YEARS WILL NOT BE UP UNTIL OCT. 19, 2010. I DO NOT EXPECT THE RAPTURE TO TAKE PLACE DURING THE FALL FEASTS DAYS THIS YEAR, BECAUSE THE TWO FULL YEARS WILL NOT BE UP. JOSEPH HAD TO WAIT A FULL TWO YEARS BEFORE HIS GREAT DELIVERANCE. I BELIEVE THE LORD IS SHOWING US THAT OUR REAL HIGH ALERT WATCH TIME WILL START ON OCT. 19TH OF THIS YEAR. THE JEWISH CALENDAR IS SHOWING US THAT THE 10TH DAY OF THE 2ND MONTH, THE DAY THAT NOAH ENTERED THE ARK, IS OCT. 18TH. I SUSPECT THAT THE ACTUAL MOON SIGHTINGS MAY ACTUALLY PUSH THIS FORWARD A DAY OR SO.

ONE WEEK LATER IS WHEN THE FLOOD CAME, ON THE 17TH DAY OF THE 2ND JEWISH MONTH. THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN ONE OF JIM BRAMLETT'S FAVORITE POSSIBILITIES FOR THE TIME OF THE RAPTURE. MARILYN AGEE NOW BELIEVES THIS 17TH DAY OF THE SECOND JEWISH MONTH IN 2010 (OCT. 25--26) WILL BE THE TIME OF THE RAPTURE. OCT 19--OCT. 30, 2010, ARE DEFINITELY GOING TO BE HIGH ALERT RAPTURE DAYS--JUST A FEW DAYS BEFORE THE PROPOSED ELECTIONS. DOES THE NEW WORLD ORDER ELITE HAVE AN OCTOBER SURPRISE WAITING FOR US???

WILL THIS TIME FRAME (OCT. 19--30, 2010) PRODUCE THE SUDDEN DESTRUCTION/RAPTURE??? REMEMBER, THAT THE LORD HAS SHOWN TO US, THAT JOSEPH, MOSES, AND NOAH, ARE THE THREE KEYS TO THE RAPTURE. THE 10TH AND THE 17TH DAY OF THE 2ND MONTH IN THE TIME OF THE GREAT FLOOD IN NOAH'S TIME, COME IN LATE OCTOBER THIS YEAR. THESE ARE THE DAYS THAT NOAH ENTERED THE ARK AND THAT THE FLOOD STARTED.

I FIND IT FASCINATING THAT EXACTLY 40 DAYS FROM FEAST OF TRUMPETS, SEPT. 9--10, TAKES US TO OCT. 19, 2010!!! OCT. 19TH IS THE DAY THAT THE TWO FULL YEARS ARE UP (OCT. 29, 2008, PLUS 360 DAYS PLUS 360 DAYS)!!! AND IT WILL PROBABLY TURN OUT TO BE THE EXACT DAY THAT NOAH ENTERED THE ARK, ON THE 17TH DAY OF THE 2ND MONTH. OCT. 19TH IS ALSO ON A TUESDAY, THE DAY OF THE WEEK THAT THE BRIDEGROOM COMES FOR THE BRIDE.

THERE IS ALSO MORE POINTING TOWARDS THIS DAY OF OCT 19TH, THAT I WILL BRING OUT IN A FUTURE POST. WILL ROSHASHANA, FEAST OF TRUMPETS, BRING US A 40-DAY WARNING (THE START OF WORLD WAR 3???), IF OCT. 19TH IS THE DAY? I AM NOT READY TO COMMIT TO A DAY, OR EVEN A 12-DAY TIME PERIOD. I AM JUST THROWING SOME THINGS OUT THERE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. BUT I WILL CONTINUE TO SAY, AS I HAVE BEEN CONSISTENTLY SAYING FOR ALMOST ONE YEAR NOW, THE FOLLOWING:

WE HAVE EVERY REASON, BECAUSE OF GEN. 45. AND OTHER EVIDENCE, TO BE EXPECTING THE RAPTURE/SUDDEN DESTRUCTION TO TAKE PLACE IN THE FALL OF 2010. NOT A PREDICTION, JUST A MUCH-ANTICIPATED EXPECTATION, BASED ON A WHOLE LOT OF BIBLICAL EVIDENCE.

FOR MORE EVIDENCE, GO TO MY NEW WEBSITE AT:
WWW.THEFINAL7YEARSAREHERENOW.COM
MARANATHA
RON REESE
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> > I DO NOT EXPECT THE RAPTURE TO TAKE PLACE DURING THE FALL FEASTS DAYS THIS YEAR, BECAUSE THE TWO FULL YEARS WILL NOT BE UP....

I agree. Cheshvan 17, in the 2nd month, ties in with the days of Noah. Trumpets, Day of Atonement and Tabernacles are in Tishri, the month before Cheshvan.

> > I BELIEVE THE LORD IS SHOWING US THAT OUR REAL HIGH ALERT WATCH TIME WILL START ON OCT. 19TH OF THIS YEAR....
> > WE HAVE EVERY REASON, BECAUSE OF GEN. 45. AND OTHER EVIDENCE, TO BE EXPECTING THE RAPTURE/SUDDEN DESTRUCTION TO TAKE PLACE IN THE FALL OF 2010.
> > THE JEWISH CALENDAR IS SHOWING US THAT THE 10TH DAY OF THE 2ND MONTH, THE DAY THAT NOAH ENTERED THE ARK, IS OCT. 18TH. I SUSPECT THAT THE ACTUAL MOON SIGHTINGS MAY ACTUALLY PUSH THIS FORWARD A DAY OR SO.

I think Noah started loading the Ark on Cheshvan 10, and the Lord shut the door on the 17th. If I remember right, Methuselah died on Cheshvan 10, so Ariel Sharon just might die on that date.

> > MARILYN AGEE NOW BELIEVES THIS 17TH DAY OF THE SECOND JEWISH MONTH IN 2010 (OCT. 25--26) WILL BE THE TIME OF THE RAPTURE. OCT 19--OCT. 30, 2010, ARE DEFINITELY GOING TO BE HIGH ALERT RAPTURE DAYS--JUST A FEW DAYS BEFORE THE PROPOSED ELECTIONS. DOES THE NEW WORLD ORDER ELITE HAVE AN OCTOBER SURPRISE WAITING FOR US???

The Hebrew Date Converter says,
"17th of Cheshvan, 5771 = Mon, 25 October 2010"
Cheshvan 17 will start at 6 PM on Sunday, Oct. 24 and end at 6 PM Monday, Oct. 25.

Then if Jesus comes in the night, he could arrive on (our) Sunday. That agrees with the preview of the Rapture in Rev. 1:9-11.

Rev. 1:9-11 says, "I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos (meaning mortal), for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. I was (lit., became) in the Spirit on the Lord's day (Sunday), and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last". When John saw Christ, he was in Heaven.

That is "the Lord's day" (Sunday), not the Day of the Lord, which is the Day of God's Wrath at the end of the shortened Great Tribulation. The first Rapture is on "the Lord's day", and the second Rapture is on the great and terrible Day of the Lord.

> > I FIND IT FASCINATING THAT EXACTLY 40 DAYS FROM FEAST OF TRUMPETS, SEPT. 9--10, TAKES US TO OCT. 19, 2010!!! OCT. 19TH IS THE DAY THAT THE TWO FULL YEARS ARE UP (OCT. 29, 2008, PLUS 360 DAYS PLUS 360 DAYS)!!! AND IT WILL PROBABLY TURN OUT TO BE THE EXACT DAY THAT NOAH ENTERED THE ARK, ON THE 17TH DAY OF THE 2ND MONTH. OCT. 19TH IS ALSO ON A TUESDAY, THE DAY OF THE WEEK THAT THE BRIDEGROOM COMES FOR THE BRIDE.

Wed, October 29, 2008 was Tishri 30, 5769. Two years later will be Tishri 30, 5771 (Fri, October 8, 2010). The 30-day month and 360-day year are estimated time, not real time. I think we are to go by real time when figuring an exact date.

The Marriage of the Lamb will probably take place in Heaven on the great and terrible Day of the Lord.

Mt 24:31 says, "And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of HEAVEN to the other." That is the Bride of Christ that was caught up to heaven previously in the First-Trump Rapture of I Thess. 4:16,17.

The wedding seems to be right after the Bride is gathered from one end of Heaven to the other.

Mark 13:27 says, "And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the EARTH to the uttermost part of HEAVEN." Those caught up from the Earth are the Tribulation saints that will be caught up in the Last-Trump Rapture.

Luke 12:36 says, "And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, when he will return FROM THE WEDDING; that when he cometh and knocketh, they may open unto him immediately." This may be talking about the Second Advent, which is 7 months (Dan. 12:11) after the Last-Trump Rapture in a leap year, probably Tishri 1, 5776 (Sept. 14, 2015).

> > WILL ROSHASHANA, FEAST OF TRUMPETS, BRING US A 40-DAY WARNING (THE START OF WORLD WAR 3???)

I doubt it. The Gog and Magog war will take place at the end of the shortened Great Tribulation. Every wall will fall in the worldwide earthquake brought on by the two asteroid impacts of Rev. 8:8-11. Israel will bury the bodies during the 7 months between the Feast of Trumpets and the Second Advent in a leap year, probably 5776.

> > WE HAVE EVERY REASON, BECAUSE OF GEN. 45. AND OTHER EVIDENCE, TO BE EXPECTING THE RAPTURE/SUDDEN DESTRUCTION TO TAKE PLACE IN THE FALL OF 2010.

When Joseph sent his brothers to bring his father to Egypt, there was no "SUDDEN DESTRUCTION." They arrived in Egypt when it was peaceful.

Since the Balfour Declaration was signed on Cheshvan 17, it makes me hopeful that the Rapture will also be on Cheshvan 17.

The Balfour Declaration was Cheshvan 17, 5678 (Nov 2, 1917).

5677 divides by 7 equally, so it was Sabbatic.
Nisan 1, 5678 to Nisan 1, 5679 was a Jubilee Yr.

5677 + 49 = 5726, a Sabbatic Year.
Nisan 1, 5727 (Apr 11, 1967) to Nisan 1, 5728 (Mar 30, 1968) was a Jubilee Yr.
The Six-Day War started Iyar 27, 5727 (June 6, 1967) in the Jubilee Yr.

5726 + 49 = 5775, a Sabbatic Year.
Nisan 1, 5776 (Sat. April 9, 2016 to Nisan 1, 5777 (Tue, March 28, 2017) will be a Jubilee Yr.

I think the first Rapture is likely on Cheshvan 17, 5771 (Oct. 25, 2010), because Jesus said it was as the days of Noah. Noah went into the Ark and the Lord closed the door on Cheshvan 17.

I think Jesus will return on the first day of the Jubilee Yr, Nisan 1, 5776, Sat. April 9, 2016.

God bless you for all the work you have done to try to figure out the Lord's timetable. Keep watching. We may have other signs as the day approaches. Noah knew the date 7 days before the Lord closed the door of the Ark, and it began to rain. Agape

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