Pro and Con 1568

Posted 9-19-2010

Baby porcupine

  

It came with this caption. "My, the wonder of God's creation. And this beautiful little creature just evolved? The paleontologists must be taking brain softeners."

GOD DECLARED THE END, CHESHVAN 17, FROM THE BEGINNING

By Marilyn Agee, posted on Home Page Thur. Sept. 16, 2010

Isa 46:9,10: "I am God, and there is none like me, DECLARING THE END FROM THE BEGINNING".

THE FIRST DATE MENTIONED IN THE BIBLE IS CHESHVAN 17, IN THE DAYS OF NOAH.

Gen 7:11 says, "IN THE SECOND MONTH, THE SEVENTEENTH DAY of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and THE WINDOWS OF HEAVEN WERE OPENED."

No wonder Jesus said in Mt 24:37-40, "AS THE DAYS OF NOE WERE, SO SHALL ALSO THE COMING OF THE SON OF MAN BE. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until THE DAY (CHESHVAN 17) THAT NOE ENTERED INTO THE ARK, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; SO SHALL ALSO THE COMING OF THE SON OF MAN BE (on Cheshvan 17). THEN SHALL TWO BE IN THE FIELD; THE ONE SHALL BE TAKEN, AND THE OTHER LEFT." That's the Rapture.

Doesn't that mean that the day of the Rapture will be Cheshvan 17 (Oct. 25 or 26, 2010), the day "THE WINDOWS OF HEAVEN WERE OPENED"?

Isa 46:9-13 says, "REMEMBER THE FORMER THINGS OF OLD: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me, DECLARING THE END FROM THE BEGINNING, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I HAVE PURPOSED IT, I WILL ALSO DO IT. HEARKEN UNTO ME, YE STOUTHEARTED, THAT ARE FAR FROM RIGHTEOUSNESS: I BRING NEAR MY RIGHTEOUSNESS; IT SHALL NOT BE FAR OFF, AND MY SALVATION (teshuah, RESCUE, DELIVERANCE) SHALL NOT TARRY: AND I WILL PLACE SALVATION (RESCUE, DELIVERANCE) IN ZION" (tsiyon, a permanent capital, Jerusalem on Earth and NEW JERUSALEM IN HEAVEN) for Israel my glory."

Get ready. Luke 21:36 says, "Watch ye therefore, and PRAY ALWAYS, THAT YE MAY BE ACCOUNTED WORTHY TO ESCAPE all these things that shall come to pass, AND TO STAND BEFORE THE SON OF MAN."

1Jn 1:9 says, "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."

"The RAPTURE DOOR is about to SHUT!"

By John Tng (10 Sep 2010) (owner of Five Doves site)
http://www.fivedoves.com/rapture/2010/rapture_door_about_to_shut.html The rapture door has been opened since Nov 1, 2006 and will be shut on Oct 25, 2010! God is giving the church four years to repent and prepare for the wedding of the Lamb.

This information may sound incredible but I hope finally THIS IS IT. Both Ron Reese and Marilyn Agee are saying the same. MY STUDY IS BASED ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT DR. DAVID EDWARD OWOUR IS THE TRUE END-TIME PROPHET SENT BY GOD TO WARN AND PREPARE THE BRIDE IN THIS LAST HOUR. He saw in a vision heaven opened on Nov 1, 2006 when God lowered two golden wedding rings at the entrance of heaven, signifying all is ready.

My study is also based on an encounter I had with Jesus on Aug 6, 2010 (see link: http://www.fivedoves.com/rapture/2009/g11pyramid.html).
Both Dr. Owuor's vision and my encounter lead to a timeline that ends on the rapture date, Oct 25, 2010. Dr. Owuor's vision began on Nov 1, 2006, while my encounter points to Oct 29, 2008 (Obamamercial) as the start date.

The glue that links both timelines is ENOCH, the first raptured saint. The rapture door remains open for 1455 days (11.1.2006 to 10.25.2010); the Greek gematria of ENOCH is 1455. Enoch also shows us who the antichrist is. Between Obama's infomercial (10.29.2008) and his inauguration (1.20.2009) there are 84 days inclusive; the Hebrew gematria of ENOCH is 84.

Another glue that links both timelines is NOAH, who was delivered just before sudden worldwide destruction. The Lord likens His coming to the days of Noah (Mat 24:36). The rapture door opened on Nov 1, 2006 -- 10th of Cheshvan -- the same day the door to Noah's ark opened! The rapture door will be shut on Oct 25, 2010 -- 17th of Cheshvan -- the same day the door to Noah's ark was shut!

The rapture door was opened in year 2006. Noah went to heaven 2006 (1056+950) years after the first Adam. An invitation to heaven was given 2006 years after the last Adam....

The rapture window is further confirmed by a secret hidden in Noah's ark, discovered by Clay Cantrell. Clay, a Bible numericist with rare insights, observed that the small ESCAPE WINDOW near the top of the ark, through which the DOVE flew, is 29 cubits in height (Gen 6:16). The rapture symbols are all too clear: ESCAPE is HARPAZO, DOVE is BRIDE, and 29 is the number of DEPARTURE....

The shutting of the rapture door as warned by Jesus in Mat 25:10, and as carried out by Him, is near. It will happen on the 25th day of the 10th month -- when the fate of the 10 virgins shall be determined in year '10!

The date of the rapture, 10.25.10, is hidden in plain sight at the separation of the 10 virgins in Mat 25:10 !

COME LORD JESUS! John

My reply

Thanks for all your hard work figuring out when you think Jesus will return. I know what kind of dedication that takes.

Two heads are better than one. Not having a head for lots of numbers, among several other clues you found, I missed that clue hidden in plain sight, Mt 25:10 for the 25th day of the 10th month on our Gregorian Calendar. I try so hard to think in terms of the Hebrew Sacred Calendar, Cheshvan 17, the 17th day of the 8th month (our Oct. 25), that I didn't have a clue to the hidden meaning of Mt 25:10. It even reads from right to left as does Hebrew.

Just before Cheshvan 17 last year, I finally noticed that Jesus said "day and hour" in Mt. 24:36, and only "hour" in verses 42 and 44. In between, he had told us the day in verses 37 and 38, when he said, "as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be" and then "THE DAY THAT HE ENTERED INTO THE ARK." Noah entered into the Ark, and the Lord closed the door (a symbol of the Rapture, Rev. 3:8, 4:1), on Cheshvan 17.

Here are those scriptures:

Mt 24:36 "But of that DAY AND HOUR knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
Mt 24:37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Mt 24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until THE DAY THAT HE ENTERED INTO THE ARK (Cheshvan 17),
Mt 24:39 And knew not until the flood came (Cheshvan 17), and took them all away; SO SHALL ALSO THE COMING OF THE SON OF MAN BE.
Mt 24:40 Then (on Cheshvan 17) shall two be in the field (the field is the world); the one shall be taken (in the Rapture), and the other left.
Mt 24:41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Mt 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what HOUR your Lord doth come.
Mt 24:43 But know this, that if the goodman (Pastor) of the house (Church) had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up (i.e., wise virgins taken, foolish virgins left behind). Mt 24:44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an HOUR as ye think not the Son of man cometh."

Gen 7:11 "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in THE SECOND MONTH, THE SEVENTEENTH DAY of the month (Cheshvan 17), the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.
Gen 7:12 And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights.
Gen 7:13 In the selfsame day (Cheshvan 17) entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah's wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark"

Hosea 6:3 says, "the LORD: HIS GOING FORTH IS PREPARED AS THE MORNING (maybe as the morning star); and HE SHALL COME UNTO US AS THE RAIN, as the latter (Nisan 1) and former rain (Tishri 1, Unger's Bible Dictionary, Calendar) unto the earth."

It looks like Jesus will come as the rain four times. He came as the former rain (TISHRI 1) at his First Advent. He will come as the latter rain (NISAN 1) at his Second Advent. I think he will come at the First Rapture as the first rain of the Bible (CHESHVAN 17), and at the Second Rapture as the former rain (TISHRI 1) just before the asteroids of Rev. 8:8-11 impact Earth on the Day of God's Wrath.

Rev 22:16 says, "I Jesus have sent mine angel (called the angel of the Lord in the Old Testament) to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root (YHWH) and the offspring of David (JESUS), and THE BRIGHT AND MORNING STAR."

It looks like the Lord will come at the Rapture when heaven (Saturn, the "third heaven" of II Cor. 12:2-4) is the only morning star in the sky.

Notice that the astronomer's symbol for Saturn is "h" for heaven. The Lord doesn't miss an opportunity to plant a clue.

The Lord's coming when his "sapphire" throne (Eze. 1:1,26-28) is the only morning star in the sky will be possible Oct. 17 through 28, 2010. It was not possible in 2009. It will not be possible in 2011 through 2017. It will only be possible 12 days, Oct. 17 through 28, 2010. Venus will be rising ahead of the Sun on the 29th.

On Cheshvan 17 (date it started to rain in Noah's day) this year, from about 2:20 AM to Sunup, Saturn, "third heaven" of II Cor. 12:2-4, location of Jesus' sapphire throne (Eze. 1:1,26-28), will be the only morning star in the sky.

Psa 72:6-8 says, "HE SHALL COME DOWN LIKE RAIN upon the mown grass: as showers that water the earth. In his days (Day of Christ [first Rapture, probably on Cheshvan 17, 5771, Oct. 25, 2010] and Day of the Lord [second Rapture just before God's Wrath falls on the Feast of Trumpets, Tishri 1, 5776, Sept. 14, 2015]) shall the righteous flourish; and abundance of peace so long as the moon endureth. He shall have dominion (starting on the Day of the Lord) also from sea to sea, and from the river unto the ends of the earth."

I think the Antichrist, the first beast of Rev. 13, will be the Pope. Rev. 13:1,2 says, "And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast (the great red dragon) rise up out of the sea (nations, Rev. 17:15), having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy (Pontifex Maximus).
Rev 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion (Babylon): and the dragon (i.e., the great red dragon) gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
Rev 13:3 And I saw one of his heads (the Holy Roman Empire) as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed (it became the Roman Ecclesiastical Empire): and all the world wondered after the beast.
Rev 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?" (No one dares to go to war with the Pope.)

At the time of the Rapture, when we will be with Christ (as in Rev. 17:14), Rev. 17:10 says, "And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space."

THE 7 WORLD EMPIRES

1. Babel (headed by Nimrod, the 1st Pontifex Maximus, the name of blasphemy) (fallen)
2. Babylon II (headed by Nebuchadnezzar, the 2nd Pontifex Maximus) (fallen)
3. Media-Persia (headed by Cyrus and others, all called Pontifex Maximus) (fallen)
4. Greece (headed by Alexander, the Pontifex Maximus) (fallen)
5. Holy Roman Empire (headed by Caesars, all called Pontifex Maximus) (fallen)
6. Ecclesiastical Roman Empire (headed by the Pope, the Pontifex Maximus) (the "one" who "is")
7. Babylon II (headed by the False Prophet, the Pontifex Maximus) (the one yet to come)

Rev. 13:12 says, "And he (the False Prophet) exerciseth all the power of the first beast (the Pope) before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast (the 6th head of the great red dragon, the Pope), whose deadly wound was healed" (when the Holy Roman Empire died and the Ecclesiastical Roman Empire began). Maranatha

IS DR. OWUOR A PROPHET OF GOD?

De 18:21,22 says, "And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him."

Geneticist Dr David Edward Owuor says he was sent to "PROPHESY" against the prosperity doctrines. I visited his web site, and will copy some things below so we can be sure of what he teaches.

I think it would be better if he had said that he was sent to TEACH AND WARN AGAINST, instead of "PROPHESY." I don't think he is a PROPHET like we read about in the Bible. Why? a prophet of God can't be wrong on any prophesy.

I think Dr. Owuor is wrong that the Rapture comes after the black horse and before the pale horse of Rev. 6. The saints out of all nations are in heaven in Rev. 5:9. They see Christ given the little book, the 7-sealed Title Deed of the Earth. They, along with the 24 elders, are in Heaven before the first seal is broken on that little book in Rev. 6.

Dr. Owuor is doing the right thing when he tells people to repent to get ready for the Rapture. What we should do is in I John 1:9. It says, "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." We should walk in the light as He is in the light.

Dr. Owuor says that the Laodiceans are going to hell. I don't think that is true. If I remember right, even those that call upon the name of the Lord will be caught up in the Last-Trump Rapture.

Below is some of what I found on his web site:
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1002645/pg2

...The LORD GOD called Dr. Owuor to serve King Jesus. The LORD called Dr. Owuor from his job to tell the four corners of the earth to turn away from sin and prepare the way for the Second Coming of Christ....

THE MIGHTY VISITATION

The LORD GOD called Dr. Owuor when he was at the peak of his career in a Mighty Visitation of the Holy Spirit on the July 3, 2003. In that visitation, The LORD GOD appeared to him, and wrote for him Isaiah chapter 43 verses 11 and 1 (in this specific order), and HE physically touched Dr. Owuor's mouth and lifted him up, took him into another room within his house and then left him there, from where he walked back to his bedroom.

In October 2003, The Lord appeared to Dr. Owuor again, this time with Prophets Moses and Elijah on one side of the Ark of the New Covenant of The Lord GOD in heaven, while Daniel was on the other side of the Ark of the New Covenant of The Lord GOD. This was followed by another Mighty Visitation, in the same month at 3:26am in the morning when The Lord GOD presented to him the Rod of Moses (Rod of GOD). Furthermore, on April 2, 2004 between 2pm-4pm, The Lord appeared to him and presented John The Baptist on his right hand side and The Holy Spirit spoke to Dr. Owuor by voice instructing him to go WARN THE FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH TO REPENT IN CHRIST JESUS AND PREPARE THE WAY FOR THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST, THE LAMB OF GOD. (all emphasis mine throughout) This was The LORD GOD's commissioning statement to Dr. David Owuor. A statement that turned his life around and put him on the road to preach repentance.

These Mighty Visitations were followed by another one, in which THE LORD LIFTED HIM UP AND TOOK HIM INTO HIS THRONEROOM IN HEAVEN in which He spoke with Dr. Owuor again By Voice and showed him the Holy Bible that is inside the Ark of the New Covenant of The Lord in God's Throneroom. Then lightening hit the Holy Bible three times inside the New Covenant of The Lord thereby causing a quake of the Ark of the New Covenant of The Lord in God's Throneroom. The Archangel then asked Dr. Owuor to pray and immediately he said "Father, I come to you with a lot of praise and thanksgiving in the Mighty Name of Christ Jesus. . ." Then the Glory of The Lord came through the Golden walkway and sat on the Mercy Seat on the Ark of the New Covenant. The place is most Holy causing the two Cherubim of Glory to bow behind the Throneroom at which place Dr. Owuor saw the River of Life flowing into the main street of the New Jerusalem and the Tree of Life on both sides...

Ever since then, The Lord has repeatedly spoken and shown Dr. Owuor The Rapture of the Church and the Second Coming of The Lord and how they will take place. The Lord has commanded him to preach Repentance and Holiness and completely return to GOD in order to prepare the way for the Second Coming of The Lord....

http://www.freecdtracts.com/endtimevision/DrOwour.htm

...the gist of the message that God has been given Dr. Owuor...a two-fold message.

The first part states that God the Father has shown him, by specific visions under the open night sky, that THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, YESHUA THE MESSIAH, IS ABOUT TO RETURN.

The second part calls the congregation, the nation, and the world to REPENT of their sins and transgressions, as THERE IS A VERY SMALL WINDOW OF TIME BEFORE THE LORD RETURNS...

His Visions:
Vision: Hand Written Note from Heaven
Vision: Two Rings in the sky
Vision: Golden Clock in the sky (set at 1 minute until midnight)
Vision: The Rapture
Vision: The Golden Temple of God in Heaven
Vision: Glorious White Horse in the sky
Vision: The Red Horse
Vision: The Black Horse
Vision: The Pale Horse

Teaching: Door to the Rapture
Teaching: The Golden Wedding Gown
Teaching: Series on the Black Horse...

...REGARDING THE MOST ANTICIPATED DAY OF RAPTURE. On that May 11th 2009, come 2:50AM IN THE NIGHT, then I saw the mighty vision of God Almighty. And all of a sudden, in that exceptional vision of God, I was walking along a narrow path that was well illuminated from heaven above. The brilliance of the Light that shone from above was so startling that I could literally feel the weight of the rays as they shone on the path. I was also made very much aware of the fact that this was most holy ground. The illumination of bright light that shone from above, made it possible for me to see every rock and stone that was on the road I walked in that vision. ...Then abruptly and without any advance forewarning, a tremendous voice spoke aloud from heaven. The voice I heard said, “Look and see what has fallen at your feet.” ...instead of looking at my feet to see what had fallen on them, I instead, out of shock opted to look up right above, and towards the sky from where the Tremendous Voice of the Lord had come.

...I surely attempted to look up from where God Almighty had spoken. At that precise moment, as I was still looking up in an attempt to see from where the voice had come, then I unexpectedly was shocked to see a small piece of paper that was falling from heaven above....The note was written three times, in the same manner and same ink pen....

I am Coming
I am Coming
I am Coming

"Dr. Edward David Owour"
Prepare the Way of the Lord, Jesus is Coming Soon!...
http://www.FreeCDTracts.com/endtimevision/DrOwour.htm

Dr. Owour's End Time Message...

The first part states that God the Father has shown him, by specific visions under the open night sky, that THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, YESHUA THE MESSIAH, IS ABOUT TO RETURN.

The second part calls the congregation, the nation, and the world to REPENT of their sins and transgressions, as there is a very small window of time before the Lord returns to judge unrepentant sinners...

the Written Note of God re-ignites that living hope because ON THIS ROUND THE MESSIAH IS FINALLY COMING (1 Thess 4:16-17)....

And for God Almighty to present the wedding rings as ready in the sky for practical purposes, can only mean one and only truth, that THE WEDDING OF THE LAMB WILL TAKE PLACE IN THE SKY. However, the placing of the two wedding rings at the site of the wedding reveals that THINGS ARE SUPER READY!...

THE MIGHTY VISION OF THE GOLDEN CLOCK OF GOD ALMIGHTY IN THE SKY

Time Is Running Out! By Dr. Owuor...

The Clock was being lowered towards the entrance of heaven in the sky that now stood conspicuously open and well lit....I was instantaneously shocked to realize that this mighty Golden Clock in the sky, as a matter of fact, presented ONE MINUTE TO MIDNIGHT....

When it came to the part at which the Clock was set to strike the midnight hour, it suddenly converted into a humongous writing across the sky. The writing I saw across the sky appeared more like the sky had been rubber-stamped with the inscriptions running in two semi-circles that simulates the margins of the Clock I saw. This writing across the sky was golden in an exposition that appeared to not leave out the signature of the majestic royalty of God in this greatest sign and wonder of this dispensation. The writings across the sky read:

JESUS OF NAZARETH IS COMING

...the mighty Voice that spoke on the January 7, 2008 saying, “THE ADVENT OF CHRIST IS NEAR.”...

THE WEDDING RINGS SPEAK ABOUT THE RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH THAT IS NOW VERY CLOSE....

THE FIRST HORSEMAN OF THE APOCALYPSE LITERALLY SLAMS THE DOOR OF HEAVEN ON THE CHURCH....

Substantial reference was made by Jesus, towards the fact that the endtime church at the very brinks of rapture would turn out to be a split church. While THE DAY OF HIS RETURN WOULD REMAIN SECRET, the appearance into the scene of a split church was nevertheless intended to be A CLEAR LANDMARK THAT THE MESSIAHS COMING HAS DRAWN NIGH.

“No one knows about that DAY OR HOUR...

The waxing cold essentially refers to a state of the heart of the believers who had in the beginning accepted Jesus and received the Holy Spirit only to fall away from the true faith into the shameful apostasy of the day. Likewise, it bespeaks the shift from the first primitive, holy, and glorious church of the first century to this post-modern church of today. And that is exactly why the first horseman of the apocalypse capitalizes on the modernization of the christianity hence adulterating the word. The ensuing defiling acceptance of the world into the glorious gospel of Jesus Christ becomes the biggest shame in the church....

The global christian television with its selling of oil, books, trips to holiday vacations, and cruise ship pleasures with barbecues, little ornaments, shawls, miracles, sowing of seeds, and all the commercialization that today plagues the gospel has but, well fulfilled the mighty prophecy that Jesus gave in Matthew 24. The prophecy on waxing cold of the love of many people, is practically being fulfilled every minute that goes by in todays church of Christ. ...IT IS AN ABSURD SCENARIO THAT CREATES A MASSIVE GLOBAL WAVE OF A MAJORITY OF CHRISTIANS HEADED TO HELL WHILE ONLY A MINORITY REMAIN HEADED TO RAPTURE.

THE FIRST HORSEMAN & TODAY’S SPLIT CHURCH...

WHILE THE DAY OF HIS RETURN WOULD REMAIN SECRET, THE APPEARANCE INTO THE SCENE OF A SPLIT CHURCH WAS NEVERTHELESS INTENDED TO BE A CLEAR LANDMARK THAT THE MESSIAHS COMING HAS DRAWN NIGH.

“No one knows about that day or hour...(Matt 24:36-42).

In the aforegoing, we see clearly that Christ, in his most eminent prophecy to the church, pointed towards the fact that THE MAJORITY OF GODS ELECT WOULD BE PRACTICALLY STRUCK BY THE SHARP MERCILESS ARROWS FROM THE BOW OF THE FIRST HORSEMAN. THIS WOULD CAUSE THEM TO SPIRITUALLY PERISH INTO AN ETERNAL ABYSS. And because he treads spiritual deception as a trademark, the man on the white horse literally spikes his sharp spiritual arrows with the lethal doses of the excesses of the world. His arrows appear to be targeted to the hearts and souls of believers even as he plays the role of a perfect spiritual marksman in precision....The fertility of this kind of environment is what makes the man on the white horse become more subtle and powerful than the church in order to deceive Gods own chosen people. That means that even as Christ spoke more seriously and directly to his disciples and followers, he did so with a complete understanding that THEIR HARD-WON SALVATION WAS AT STAKE....

For those who have not been called unto the Lord, an opportunity will be availed most likely in the tribulation. But it is paramount to comprehend that GODS ELECT OF TODAYS CHURCH WILL EITHER BE RAPTURED WITH HIS RETURN OR BE THROWN INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE.

...THE MAN OF THE WHITE HORSE GETS TO SPLIT GODS ELECT CHURCH INTO HALF, WITH ONE HALF ENTERING INTO RAPTURE WHILE THE OTHER INTO ETERNAL DAMNATION....The only distinguishing factors then, between the two men that the Lord said would be working in the same field, is the Holy Spirit. Obviously, the man that is taken up in the rapture represents the pastors who work under the anointing of the Holy Spirit in this last hour, hence releasing the fruit of the Spirit thereof. Yet THE MAN THAT IS LEFT TO FACE THE FULL WRATH OF THE TRIBULATION, SYMBOLIZES THE PROSPERITY PASTORS, FALSE PROPHETS, FALSE APOSTLES, AND ALL THE CHRISTIANS THAT FOLLOW THEM IN THAT GRAND FALSE CHRISTIANITY....

What the Lord meant by deceived in Lukes account of this most crucial biblical prophecy, is led astray. Without a doubt then, this infers a more serious scenario in which THE MAN OF THE APOCALYPTIC WHITE HORSE LEADS THE CHURCH ASTRAY, away from the Lord. It is not just a mere drifting away. This is the clearest indication yet that when Christ gave this warning and prophecy, he was practically talking to his own church. The reason being that only saints who are ardent believers and followers of Christ can be led astray. It presupposes that THEY WERE INITIALLY IN RIGHT STANDING WITH THE LORD, AND THEN LED ASTRAY THROUGH THIS CUNNING FIRST HORSEMAN OF THE APOCALYPSE....

See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ (Col 2:8)....

THE FACT THAT GODS OWN ELECT WHO HAVE BEEN DECEIVED BY THIS HORSEMAN, DO NOT JUST TUMBLE AND FALL, BUT ARE LED INTO ETERNAL DEATH. This is because if they had just tumbled and fallen while on the rightful course, they would still have ended up into the wedding feast of the Lamb. But BEING LED ASTRAY LITERALLY NOTATES TAKING A DIFFERENT TRAJECTORY WHICH IS ACTUAL FAR REMOVED FROM THE ONLY HIGHWAY OF HOLINESS THAT LEADS TO RAPTURE....

"BLACK HORSE...AFTER THAT...(BEFORE THE PALE HORSE) "I SAW THE SON OF MAN COMING FOR THE CHURCH"...

THESE FIRST FOUR HORSEMEN OF THE APOCALYPSE ESSENTIALLY DEMARCATE THE PROPHETIC TIMELINE TOWARDS THE RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH....

THE VISIONS OF THE LORD REGARDING THE RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH. THE VISIONS I SAW WERE THOSE OF THE WEDDING OF THE LAMB OF GOD IN WHICH THE CHURCH HAD BEEN TAKEN UP INTO THE WEDDING SUPPER OF THE LAMB. IN THAT VISION THE LORD SHOWED ME THE GLORIOUS CHURCH OF CHRIST THAT IS RAPTURED INTO HEAVEN, AS SHE HAD JUST GAINED ENTRY INTO THE WEDDING SUPPER OF THE LAMB....

MOST FASCINATING ABOUT THIS RAPTURED CHURCH IS THAT HER ENTRY INTO HEAVEN WAS MARKED WITH A GREAT CELEBRATION AND A VERY HIGH WORSHIP. THEY WERE IN THEIR GLORIOUS IMMORTAL BODIES AS THEY LIFTED THEIR HANDS UP IN SUCH A WONDERFUL RHYTHM AND AN UNMATCHED MELODY TO BEHOLD (1 COR 15:50-56).

(My note: I Cor 15:50-56 has to do with the Last-Trump Rapture, not the First-Trump Rapture)

PROPHECIES OF THE RELEASE OF THE WHITE HORSE, THE RED HORSE AND THE BLACK HORSE; AND ALL THOSE PROPHECIES HAVE COME TO PASS in a very record short time interlude. The most recent of them being the AUGUST 19TH 2008 PROPHECY ON THE RELEASE OF THE BLACK HORSE, and the coming of the global economic crisis and famine; a prophecy that was fulfilled in a record less than two months when on that October 7th 2008 all the Global Financial Markets crashed....

OF THE FIRST FOUR SEALS, THE FIRST THREE ARE THE MOST CRUCIAL BECAUSE THEY ESSENTIALLY DENOTE THE PRE-RAPTURE EVENTS that underline the nearness with which the wedding of the Lamb has drawn...

THE RELEASE OF THE PALE HORSE WITH ITS RIDER IS AN EVENT THAT TAKES PLACE AFTER THE CHURCH HAS BEEN TAKEN UP IN THE RAPTURE....

FOUR HOREMEN OF THE APOCALPSE IS INTENTEDED TO SIGNAL GODS WAGING OF WAR ON THE LAWLESSNESS AND GODLESSNESS OF THIS DISPENSATION PRIOR TO RAPTURE....

this prophecy on the release of the PALE HORSEMAN, WILL ALSO BE RELEASED VERY SOON. AND WHEN HE DOES GET RELEASED, THE HOLY AND RIGHTEOUS GLORIOUS CHURCH OF CHRIST WILL HAVE BEEN RAPTURED...

My comments

The Bride of Christ out of every nation and tongue is seen in Heaven in Rev. 5:9. She is in Heaven when Christ is given the seven-sealed book. The first seal of Rev. 6 is broken after the Rapture. To me, there is no way the Bride could be on Earth when the black horse comes.

The setting of Rev. 17 is when the Rapture has just taken place. Verse 14 says, "he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful." At that time, verse 10 says, "And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and ONE IS, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space."

The five that have fallen are the leaders of Babel, Babylon II, Media-Persia, Greece and the Holy Roman Empire. The one that is in power at the time of the Rapture is the rider of the white horse, who I think is the Pope, leader of Ecclesiastical Rome, the sixth head of the great red dragon.

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