Pro and Con 1586

Posted 1-11-11

Mount Merapi, Indonesia, Eruption, Biggest Yet, Kills 78

By James Fish
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/45453/

Mount Merapi, the Indonesian volcano, erupted in its largest explosion of the century...

The eruption sent a pyroclastic flow—an avalanche of rock and superheated gasses as hot as 1400 degrees F—rushing down the mountainside...

Indonesia lies in what is called the “Ring of Fire,” a zone of instability where several tectonic plates come together. The region is home to 75 percent of the planet’s volcanoes and the site of 90 percent of all earthquakes.

That eruption looked demonic to me, so I'm happy to show you something breathtakingly beautiful

More rare than a double rainbow, delicate and beautiful beyond description, millions of ice crystals create a perfect Sun Halo, as seen from Stockholm. It has two Sun Dogs, one on each side at the bottom of the Halo

APOD Jan 10, 2011

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap110110.html

APOD JAN 11, 2011, To me, the "Tarantula Nebula" picture has an old lion lying down watching a lion cub shake the dust out of its fur.

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap110111.html

What a day this has been. My keyboard stopped working. I guess this Pro and Con wasn't too anxious to get posted. Too bad that I was anxious to get it posted. The keyboard won the fight most of the day. However, thank you Lord, after reading Troubleshooter a couple of times, I had the presence of mind to turn off the computer, unplug the keyboard wire from the back of the computer to automatically uninstall the keyboard, plug it in again, restart the computer, and low and behold, this Acer-smarter-than-I-am-computer automatically reinstalled it. Now it works just fine. Oh well, the date now is unique, 1-11-11.

Incoming e-mail, Re: STRANGE SIGNS to START THE YEAR

We are to watch and pray!!! After reading this article sent to me, I had to share it with the wise in heart, who can without question, decern what is taking place.

From: prophetic@revivalschool.com
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011

STRANGE SIGNS to START THE YEAR
by Karen Burgin.

{The below happenings have all occurred in the space of about one month. There is a link to a MAP of it all at the end. The below list is compiled by Karen Burgin}-

"Ponder all this for a moment..."

Several hundred dead birds fell from the sky in TX

Thousands of birds fell from the sky in central ARK

500 birds fell from the sky in Louisiana

100's more birds fell from the sky in KY

2 MILLION fish have washed ashore in the Chesapeake Bay Area

100,000 fish lie dead in the Arkansas River...covering 20 linear miles.

99% of the fish are only one kind called Drum fish.

100 TONS of fish dead in the waters off of Parana`, Argentina

TENS of THOUSANDS of dead birds fell to the ground in Manitoba, Canada.

40,000 crabs are washed ashore in the UK... Jan 6.

10,000 ANTELOPE lie dead in Kazakhstan... these 10,000 represent 1/4 of the total global population of this animal.

The BEES are dying out in unprecedented numbers...

On Fox News it spoke of 8,000 Doves that fell over the skies of Italy, and all had strange blue markings on their beaks.

In Sweden, a mere 100 birds fell to the ground... Jackdaw Crows.

And earthquakes are a dime a dozen over the period of just a month:

Dec. 2... 6.9 earthquake in New Guinea
Dec. 17... 7.2 earthquake on the CA//Mexico border
Dec. 20... 5.6 earthquake in El Salvador
Dec. 21... 6.2 earthquake in Sumatra
Dec. 21... 7.4 earthquake in Japan
Dec. 25... 7.6 earthquake in Fiji
Jan 5....... 6.6 earthquake in Vanuatu in the South Pacific. 10 minutes later, there was another quake that registered 5.5
Jan 2......7.1 earthquake in Chile
Causes for these happenings?... -Toxins?.. Colder weather?..
Disease?.. Fireworks?... Hail?.. Thunderstorms?... End Times...?

...but all I"M going to say is: Get right with God!............

"For your redemption draweth nigh." (Luke 21:28).. - Karen Burgin.

-For a MAP of the animal deaths, or to make a Comment, please go to the website below-
http://www.johnthebaptisttv.com/
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My email to my daughter, Re: the Rapture could be on her birthday, May 29, 2011

It looks like the Rapture may be on your birthday this year. It is on Sunday, as in Rev. 1:9-11, and it is Ascension Day, the 40th day of counting the Omer, during barley harvest. We are probably the barley harvest. The Tribulation saints are the wheat harvest. Their Rapture is probably Tishri 1, 5776, the Feast of Trumpets in 2015, which is the Day of God's Wrath (Rev. 6:17; 7:14).

Haggai 2:18,19 says, "Consider now from this day and upward, from the four and twentieth day of the ninth month (Kislev 24, Eve of Hanukkah), even from the day that the foundation (Jesus) of the LORD'S temple was laid (i.e., Jesus was conceived), consider it. Is the seed (Jesus, Gen 3:15) yet in the barn? (a saying meaning is she pregnant) yea (yes, Jesus' conception day was Kislev 24), as yet the vine (Jesus), and the fig tree (Israel), and the pomegranate, and the olive tree (with the Gentiles grafted in), hath not brought forth: from this day (Kislev 24) will I bless you."

In John 4:35, Jesus said, "Say not ye, There are yet four months, and then cometh harvest? behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields; for they are white already to harvest."

The four months following Kislev are Teveth, Shevat, Adar I and Adar II, since this year is a Leap Year. The only harvest that turns white when ready to be harvested is barley. If we are the barley harvest, the Rapture should be between Firstfruits, Nisan 16, Resurrection Day (Wed, 20 April 2011), and Pentecost, Sivan 6 (Wed, June 8, 2011). Ascension Day (which will be Sun, May 29 in 2011), the 40th day of the Omer, is when the head of the Body of Christ ascended in 30 AD. Maybe the wise virgin part of the Body of Christ, will also ascend on Sunday.

In the Preview of the Rapture in Rev 1:9-11, John said , "I John, who also am your brother, and companion IN TRIBULATION, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos (meaning mortal), for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. I was (lit., became) in the Spirit on the Lord's day (Sunday, not the Day of the Lord that is the Day of God's Wrath), and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last".

I went to Time and Date to find out the date of Mid-Trib.
From date: Fri, May 29, 2009 (beginning of Tribulation)
Added 1260 days
Resulting date: Fri, Nov 9, 2012 (Mid-Trib)

I think the end of shortened Great Tribulation will be, Mon, Tishri 1, 5776, Sept 14, 2015.

Second Advent 7 months later (Eze 39:12,13) would be Nisan 1, 5776, April 9, 2016, first day of Sacred, Regnal and Jubilee years.

SABBATIC AND JUBILEE YEARS

5677 (1916/1917) was a Sabbatic Year (it divides by 7 evenly)
5678 (1917/1918) was a Jubilee Year.
The Balfour Declaration was signed Nov. 2, 1917.
Gen. Allenby took Jerusalem Kislev 24, 5678, Eve of Hanukkah (Dec 9, 1917).

5677 (1916) + 49 = 5726.
5726 (1966) was a Sabbatic Year.
5727 (1967) was a Jubilee Year.
The Six-Day War started June 5, 1967.

5726 (1966) + 49 = 5775 (2015) a Sabbatic Year.
5776 (2015/16) should be a Jubilee Year.

I expect the Second Advent on April 9, 2016 (Nisan 1, 5776, first day of the Sacred, Regnal and Jubilee Years).

It would be announced on the previous Day of Atonement, Tishri 10, 5776 (Sept 23, 2015) soon after the Day of God's Wrath on the Feast of Trumpets on Tishri 1, 5776 (Sept. 14, 2015). Love

JUBILEE YEAR

She has put together a calculation showing 2015 AD as a year of Jubilee, counting from before Jesus Christ was born...

By Bonnie Gaunt

Consider the significant events that occured during the last two Jubilee's:

Sept 17, 1917 - Sept 7, 1918 - 50th Jubilee - British General Allanby Captures Jerusalem and enters the city on foot, December 11, 1917

Sept 15, 1966 - Oct 5, 1967 - 51st Jubilee - Israel Captures Jerusalem, enters the city, and secures it on June 7, 1967

Bringing up the next Jubilee:

Sept 14, 2015 - Oct 3, 2016 - 52nd Jubilee - Jesus Christ sets down on the Mount of Olives, enters the city through the east gate, securing it, and taking His earthly throne on or soon after Sept 23, 2015???

My comments

Bonnie thinks the next Jubilee Year starts on Tishri 1, 5776, and is announced on Tishri 10, 5776.

I think the next Jubilee Year starts on Nisan 1, 5776. I expect the Second Advent on April 9, 2016, Nisan 1, 5776, first day of the Sacred Year, Regnal Year and Jubilee Year."

Exodus 12:2 says, "This month (NISAN) shall be unto you THE BEGINNING OF MONTHS: it shall be the FIRST MONTH of the year to you."

Afterward, Lev 25:8-11 says, "And thou shalt number seven sabbaths of years unto thee, seven times seven years; and the space of the seven sabbaths of years shall be unto thee forty and nine years. Then (IN THE 49TH YEAR) shalt thou cause the trumpet of the jubile to sound on the TENTH DAY OF THE SEVENTH MONTH (TISHRI), in the day of atonement (Tishri 10) shall ye make the trumpet sound throughout all your land (in the 49th year). And ye SHALL (future tense) hallow the FIFTIETH YEAR (i.e., THE COMING YEAR, WHICH STARTS ON THE FOLLOWING NISAN 1), and proclaim liberty throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof: it (the year that starts the NEXT Nisan 1) SHALL (future tense) be a JUBILE unto you; and ye SHALL (future tense) return every man unto his possession, and ye SHALL (future tense) return every man unto his family. A JUBILE SHALL (future tense) that FIFTIETH year be unto you: ye SHALL (future tense) not sow, neither reap that which groweth of itself in it, nor gather the grapes in it of thy vine undressed."

Incoming e-mail, Re: NEW *SUPERNOVA* LIGHTS UP LEO

Right on time, the Lion of the Tribe of Judea lights up the heavens. We get a positive SIGN from the Alpha and Omega. Wonderful affrimation. Agape Love

New *Supernova* Lights Up Leo...
Universe Today | Nov 7th, 2010...

“Bright Supernova in UGC 5189A: SN 2010jl November 5, 2010

We have been informed by Tim Puckett and by the Central Bureau for Astronomical Telegrams (CBET 2532, Daniel W. E. Green, Ed.) of the discovery of a bright supernova in UGC 5189A by J. Newton and Puckett, Portal, AZ, on November 3.52 UT at unfiltered magnitude 13.5....
the transient is ultraviolet-bright, as expected for young, interacting supernovae.

SUN UNLEASHES MOST POWERFUL SOLAR FLARE IN YEARS

By Tariq Malik, 08 Nov 2010
http://www.space.com/spacewatch/sun-unleashes-major-solar-flare-101108.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+spaceheadlines+%28SPACE.com+Headline+Feed%29&utm_content=Google+Reader

A major solar flare erupted from the sun Saturday — one of the most powerful in years — sending an energetic blast of X-rays from a hotspot of activity that may still belch more solar storms in the days to come.

The X-ray blast occurred Nov. 6

Earthquakes

Nov 3, 2010

TWO Mag 6.0
Tonga in South Pacific, depth 33 km
Indonesia Java Sea, depth 14 km
Remember ... about a week ago, 10-25 Indonesia had 3 over M6 [7.7, 6.1, 6.2]
In past 10 days there have been 32 quakes over a Mag of 4 in Indonesia.
Obama will be there on Nov 9-10, 2010
http://www.iris.edu/seismon/last30days.phtml

Incoming e-mail, Re: Hanukkah 2010

Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 8:15 AM

I believe this may be it, I have enjoyed your page, as The Lord showed me an incredible sign that this year Hanukkah rapture.

copy of my post =
"When we look at dates, we are celebrating the hope in our spirit! Hope in the promise! Our BELIEF is proven in our looking, watching, and hoping!

Brothers and Sisters, I have been pointed to a date, and I feel as the whole event happened, it was being led by The Spirit, and when I found where the date ended up, I was astonished!

Remember please a short time ago, we were given the amazing events at Kingcome. Whose residents were AIRLIFTED in an EVACUATION due to FLOODING to a town called ALERT Bay! This event took place on September 25th.

For some reason I was brought back to that very heavily this morning. And found in my heart this strong feeling, that there was a clue! As I searched and found the event, I was imediatly drawn to the date, and that it was the 9th month and the 25th day. And in my heart I felt this question, "now according to Gods callendar, what would be the 9th month, the 25th day?

The 9th month is Kislev. And Kislev 25 is the First Day of Hanukkah!

December 1st and 2nd on our civilian count.

If you had reasons for liking Hanukkah, there is even more reason now perhaps!?

Yeshua celebrated Hanukkah! Read John 10!
Behold John 10:28! And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any [man] pluck them out of my hand.

Pluck = Strongs Greek 726! Harpazo!!!
Whats this? John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: Uh huh!!!!

Watchers arise! Sound your warnings! Soon we will hear His voice, and we will follow Him, He will give us eternal life and no one will PLUCK us out of His hand! Kingcome is a clue! The events will prove true! Purify yourselves for your King! Cast off the bow lines! Weigh Anchor! Unfurl the sails! Love

I love what you have shared about the TWO raptures! Thank you for your most encouraging post and page! See you there! Love

My reply

Thanks much for your kind words and new information.

Not having heard of Kingcome before, I searched on Google for Kingcome Alert Bay September 25. I found the following information.

Kingcome is on Cormorant Island, British Columbia, Canada.

"Flooding on Sept 25th...resulted in KingCome Community being evacuated to Alert Bay http://www.kingcome.ca/flood.html"

"Close to 100 people were airlifted out of a B.C. coastal reserve on Saturday after heavy rain caused flooding and triggered 15 different mud slides."

"100 residents of Kingcome Inlet, B.C. evacuated by air Nearly 100 residents of Kingcome Inlet, B.C. were flown by helicopters Saturday to a welcoming centre in Alert Bay as rising flood waters threaten homes on the coastal reserve. Sep 26, 2010"

That Saturday was Sept. 25. I agree with you. Maybe the Rapture will be on Kislev 25, the first day of Hanukkah. The 40th day after Cheshvan 17, figured by inclusive reckoning because it is a block of time, is Kislev 26, Friday, Dec. 3, 2010. This year, Cheshvan has 30 days. In some years, it has 29 days. So Kislev 25 or 26 make sense. Maybe in the year of Noah's Flood, Cheshvan had 29 days.

If Jesus is coming as the rain, it could be anytime during those 40 days of rain in Noah's day, but the first day of Hanukkah, Kislev 25, Thursday, Dec. 2, 2010 seems most likely, because that is when they lit the oil in the Temple Lampstand that was only enough for one day. It miraculously lasted 8 days, until new oil could be made. Eight is the number of new beginnings. 888 is Jesus' number.

Hanukkah ties in nicely with the five wise virgins having enough oil for their lamps because they carried extra in their vessels.

However, there are two dates on Earth at the same time. Maybe it would be Kislev 25 here and Kislev 26 in Australia.

So, I agree with you on the Rapture probably being on Hanukkah 2010, but the Rapture might be on Dec. 2 or 3, Kislev 25 or 26, because this year, Cheshvan has 30 days instead of 29. Forty days (figured by inclusive reckoning because it is a block of time) after Cheshvan 17 is Kislev 26, Dec. 3 in 2010.

I was up until 3:34 last night working on the following.

It rained 40 days in Noah's time, and Jesus indicated in Mt. 24:37-44 that the Rapture would be as the days of Noah. During the 40 days of rain, the Ark floated free of the ground. It arrived at its predestined parking place on Mt. Sulieman (Iran's way of spelling Solomon) in Iran on Tishri 17 (Gen. 8:4).

WAS THE ARK THAT WAS FOUND IN IRAN ACTUALLY IN WHAT USED TO BE AYARARAT, ARMENIA?

At http://www.armstat.am/file/article/marz_07_e_2.pdf, I found the following:

"Armenia as a constituent part of ancient civilization is known to history from ancient times.
"Since IV-II century B.C. the Armenian-populated all districts had been divided into three big administrative units: Pokr Hayk, Tsopk and Mets Hayk that in II century B.C. became independent states. Among them the most powerful was Mets Hayk state, where since II century B.C. till V century B.C. first Artashesyans ruled, then Arshakunies.

"The Mets Hayk contained of 15 lands that all together had 191 provinces. Those “lands” were followings: Tayk, Bardzr Hayk, Chorrord Hayk, Aghdznik, Korchek, Mokk, Parskahayk, Paytakaran, Artsakh, Utik, Syunik, Gugark, Turuberan, Vaspurakan and AYRARAT, THAT WAS THE MOST "KNOWN "LAND" AS POLITICAL, ECONOMIC AND CULTURAL LIFE CENTRE.

"In new and newest times the territory of historical Armenia was divided into western and eastern parts that were included in Osman TURKEY AND IRAN".

There is a connection between Armenia, Ayrarat and Iran. How interesting.

Back to the Lord coming unto us as the rain. Hosea 6:3 says, "Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth."

The Lord will come as the rain, as the former and latter rain at the two Advents, but just maybe he will come as the rain in Noah's day at the Rapture.

Joel 2:23 says, "Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the LORD your God: for he hath given you the former rain moderately, and he will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain (Tishri 1), and the latter rain (Nisan 1) in the first month."

De 11:14 says, "I will give you the rain of your land in HIS DUE SEASON, the first rain (starts Tishri 1, First Advent) and the latter rain (starts Nisan 1, Second Advent), that thou mayest gather in thy corn, and thy wine, AND THINE OIL."

The oil is made from olives that are harvested in October, November and December until Hanukkah. None are supposed to be harvested after Hanukkah begins. That alone makes Kislev 25 sound better than the 26th.

Jer 5:24 says, "Neither say they in their heart, Let us now fear the LORD our God, that giveth rain, both the former (Tishri 1) and the latter (Nisan 1), in HIS season: he reserveth unto US the appointed weeks of THE HARVEST." What harvest, the olive harvest from mid-October to Hanukkah? It looks that way now.

Gen 8:4 says, "And the ark rested in the seventh month (Tishri), on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat (Heb., ararat, Armenia).

Look at De 32:1-7. It says, "Give ear, O ye heavens, and I will speak; and hear, O earth, the words of my mouth. 2 My doctrine shall drop as the rain, my speech shall distil as the dew, as the small rain upon the tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass: 3 Because I will publish the name of the LORD: ascribe ye greatness unto our God. 4 He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he. 5 They have corrupted themselves, their spot is not the spot of his children: they are a perverse and crooked generation. 6 Do ye thus requite the LORD, O foolish people and unwise? is not he thy father that hath bought thee? hath he not made thee, and established thee? 7 REMEMBER THE DAYS OF OLD, consider the years of many generations: ask thy father, and he will shew thee; thy elders, and they will tell thee."

Come to think of it, because of two back to back rain storms, it rained 40 days here in normally sunny Southern California in 1969. It kept raining lightly between the two storms. I still have the Tab Section the Santa Ana Register published about the storm. We sent in our 50 cents and they sent it to us by mail. It gave the beginning and ending dates of the two back to back rainstorms.

Major rain event years out here were 1938, 1969, 1978, 1983, and 1998, but nothing else was quite like 1969. The Jordan Basin between Israel and Jordan also had lots of rain in 1969, 75 inches of rain in 80 hours, the highest amount of rain in 150 years. God was trying to tell us something.

We lived in La Mirada, in the Los Angeles area, in 1969. One day during the 40 days of rain, Ed couldn't get the car home. The road was too flooded between Norwalk and La Mirada. Another day, he had to ditch around our garage to keep a river of water from running through the garage. Over a hundred people were killed when a hillside slid down on a fire station. Those extremely unusual 40 days of rain (as in the days of Noah) were probably a sign I should pay attention to now.

Gen. 7:17-20 (Stone) says, "WHEN THE FLOOD WAS ON THE EARTH FORTY DAYS, THE WATERS INCREASED AND RAISED THE ARK SO THAT IT WAS LIFTED ABOVE THE EARTH. THE WATERS STRENGTHENED AND INCREASED GREATLY upon the earth, and the Ark drifted (yalak, walked, departed, went up, was taken away, vanished; i.e., picturing the departure, the Rapture) upon the surface of the waters.The waters strengthened very much upon the earth, ALL the high mountains which are under the entire heavens were covered. Fifteen cubits upward did the waters strengthen, and the mountains were covered."

It seems significant too that NASA's Apollo 11 lifted up (Heb., nasa) and placed the first man on the Moon in 1969. When Jesus walked upon the water, Peter came to him. They got in the ship, which was near the middle of the lake, and suddenly it was at the other side." John 6:21 says, "Then they willingly received him into the ship: and IMMEDIATELY the ship was at the land whither they went."

It seems that we will be teleported in one big hurry after a 40-day period. That fits the 40 days of rain in Noah's day. Forty days after Cheshvan 17 will be Kislev 26, Friday, December 3, 2010. If Cheshvan had 29 days this year instead of 30, the 40th day would be Kislev 25, the first day of Hanukkah.

Hmmm. Things are beginning to jell. 1969 + a 40-year generation = 2009. 2009 + a 7-year Tribulation = 2016. That's the year when I expect the Second Advent on Nisan 1, 5776, April 9, 2016, the first day of the Sacred, Regnal and Jubilee year. That Jubilee seems locked in place, because it is preceded by the Sabbatic Year 5775 (that divides by 7 equally). If it were any later, it would have to be 7 years later.

Also, 1917 (year of the Balfour Declaration) + the 49-year Jubilee Cycle = 1966. Then 1967 was both the Jubilee Year and the first year of the new cycle. 1967 + 49 = 2016. The Jubilee Year would be announced on the Day of Atonement, Sept. 23, 2015, and begin on Nisan 1, 5776, April 9, 2016.

I live in Riverside, CA now. It is farther inland. Here, it doesn't rain much, but even the Inland Region has weathered some of the most intense rains on record. Even out in the true desert, they have flash floods occasionally. They had one this year. Coming home from visiting Dave in the hospital last December, Ed and I ran into a cloudburst on Alesandro in nearby Moreno Valley that scared me silly. I couldn't see a thing forward. I said, "Please Lord, don't put me through this." Then I got a quick glimpse to the side. There was an entry into a parking lot on my right. I managed to get into it and parked until the cloudburst was over. Whew! I couldn't park by the curb. The water was already too deep. I would have lost my brakes.

Rain here can be very eratic. One day, I went into Ralphs Supermarket on Alesandro in Riverside when it was raining hard, but I didn't park in a pool of water. When I came out, I had to wade in water over my shoe tops to get to my car. Afterward, I was astonished to drive the short distance home, near Van Buren, and find that it had not rained there at all.

The biggest one-day storm on record in the greater Los Angeles area was Jan. 24, 1969. Then 24.92 inches of rain fell in 24 hours. Mount Baldy had 50.85 inches in one 10-day period during January.

I now think God was trying to tell us, and especially me, to pay attention to the 40 days of rain in Noah's time. In those days, it started to rain on Cheshvan 17. Forty days later ended on Kislev 25, first day of Hanukkah, or Kislev 26, according to whether Cheshvan had 29 or 30 days that year. This year, Cheshvan has 30 days, so the 40th day will be Kislev 26, Dec. 3. I sure hope the Rapture will be during Hanukkah this year.

Hanukkah (Dec. 2-9, 2010) is the Festival of Lights, when the Temple was rededicated. We are the temple of the Holy Spirit. Will we be raptured and rededicated during Hanukkah? It looks that way, and I sure hope so. I'm behind on my bills now. I couldn't possibly pay the predicted high prices for food and gas next year.

President Obama just celebrated another Festival of Lights in India. That might be to remind us of Hanukkah, the Festival of Lights.

It reminds us of the parable of the ten virgins. The wise ones had extra oil in vessels with their lamps that were to be kept burning. The foolish ones had to go out and buy oil. That could take 8 days. It takes that long to make fresh olive oil for the Temple. By the time they got back, the Bridegroom, the Lord, had already come. Hanukkah seems to be the time of the Rapture.

Rom 11:17 says, "And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree".

The olive harvest in Israel starts about the middle of October and ends when Hanukkah begins. No olives are supposed to be harvested after that. It takes 8 days to obtain fresh olive oil from the harvest. On Hanukkah, the oil for one day miraculously lasted for 8 days. Agape

A post on the Five Doves site

Virginia Arnke (27 Oct 2010)
"THE RAPTURE, GOG, AND HANUKKAH PUZZLE: PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER... Posted 10/26/10"
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2010/virginiaa1027-2.htm

according to Ezekiel 39:9-10:

9 And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the hand staves, and the spears, and they shall burn them with fire seven years:

10 So that they shall take no wood out of the field, neither cut down any out of the forests; for they shall burn the weapons with fire: and they shall spoil those that spoiled them, and rob those that robbed them, saith the Lord God.

This time frame of a seven years' cleanup may reflect Daniel's Seventieth Week. If so, then this war signals the beginning of the 7-year Tribulation.

My reply

> > This time frame of a seven years' cleanup may reflect Daniel's Seventieth Week. If so, then this war signals the beginning of the 7-year Tribulation.
I think the Gog and Magog war will take place on the Day of God's Wrath.

Concerning the Day of God's Wrath, Eze 38:18-23 says, "And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that MY FURY SHALL COME UP IN MY FACE. 19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of MY WRATH have I spoken, Surely in THAT DAY (Day of God's Wrath) there shall be a great shaking (i.e., the worldwide earthquake) in the land of Israel; 20 So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence (lit., face, when they see the Sign of the Son of Man in the sky), and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and EVERY WALL SHALL FALL to the ground. 21 And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord GOD: every man's sword shall be against his brother. 22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone. 23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the EYES of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD."

Concerning the Millennium, Isa 2:4 says, "And he (Jesus) shall JUDGE AMONG THE NATIONS, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more."

Wouldn't they have to melt the metal with fire to turn weapons like tanks into plowshares?

Let's look at Eze. 39 carefully. Burning the weapons follows the Gog and Magog war (Eze. 38:18-20), which takes place on the Day of God's Wrath, the day of the worldwide earthquake. I think the Israelites will burn the weapons during the first 7 years of the Millennial Rule of Christ. That would be after the Gog and Magog war (probably on Tishri 1, 5776, Sept. 14, 2015) and after Armageddon (probably on Nisan 1, 5776, April 9, 2016).

Concerning the end of the Gog and Magog war, Eze 39:1-13 says, "1 Therefore, thou son of man, prophesy against Gog, and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal: 2 And I will turn thee back, and leave but the sixth part of thee, and will cause thee to come up from the north parts, and will bring thee upon the mountains of Israel: 3 And I will smite thy bow out of thy left hand, and will cause thine arrows to fall out of thy right hand. 4 THOU SHALT FALL UPON THE MOUNTAINS OF ISRAEL, thou, and all thy bands, and the people that is with thee: I will give thee unto the ravenous birds of every sort, and to the beasts of the field to be devoured. 5 Thou shalt fall upon the open field: for I have spoken it, saith the Lord GOD. 6 And I will send a fire on Magog (i.e., the burning mountain asteroid of Rev. 8:8 will spew fire over Russia and then impact the Mediterranean Sea), and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I am the LORD (people will see the Sign of the Son of Man in the sky). 7 So will I make my holy name known in the midst of my people Israel; and I will not let them pollute my holy name any more: and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, the Holy One in Israel. 8 Behold, IT IS COME, AND IT IS DONE, saith the Lord GOD; THIS IS THE DAY WHEREOF I HAVE SPOKEN (the Day of God's Wrath). 9 And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth (i.e., after the Day of God's Wrath), and shall set on fire and BURN THE WEAPONS, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the handstaves, and the spears, and they shall BURN THEM WITH FIRE SEVEN YEARS: 10 So that they shall take no wood out of the field, neither cut down any out of the forests; for they shall burn the weapons with fire (THE METAL COULD BE MELTED IN A BLAST FURNACE): and they shall spoil those that spoiled them, and rob those that robbed them, saith the Lord GOD. 11 And it shall come to pass IN THAT DAY, THAT I WILL GIVE UNTO GOG A PLACE THERE OF GRAVES IN ISRAEL, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and THERE SHALL THEY BURY GOG and all his multitude: and they shall call it The valley of Hamongog. 12 AND SEVEN MONTHS (Tishri 1 to Nisan 1 in a Leap Year, probably 5776) SHALL THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL BE BURYING OF THEM, that they may cleanse the land. 13 Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown the day that I shall be glorified (i.e., the day of the SECOND ADVENT), saith the Lord GOD." Agape

A 4-DAY EVENT: "CHRISTIANS, MUSLIMS GATHER TO BUILD A COMMON FUTURE"

By Ethan Cole, Nov 2 2010
http://www.christianpost.com/article/20101102/christians-muslims-gather-to-build-a-common-future/

Christian and Muslim leaders are gathered in Geneva for a high-level interfaith dialogue on how to build strong and sustainable relationships between the two groups and how the religious communities can use their resources to transform their communities.

...hosted at the World Council of Churches’ Ecumenical Center....

“My strong belief is that we are called together to become peacemakers, respecting the will of our Creator and our Creator’s love for the entire creation,” said the WCC head. “It is our task to make sure that religion is not a synonym with conflict in the eyes of people, but a synonym for JUSTICE AND PEACE.”

...Prince Ghazi bin Muhammad bin Talal of Jordan noted that while Muslims and Christians do not share the same theology, they are “all in the same boat.” The prince, who serves as personal envoy and special adviser to King Abdullah II or Jordan, said people of faith face the same problems and opportunities. He highlighted, as in the “Common Word” document, that Christians and Muslims share the common commitment to love God and love one’s neighbor.

FOUND ON FIVE DOVES SITE: STEVE W (5 NOV 2010) "THE HOUR HAS COME !"

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/nov2010/stevew115.htm

...I would like to relate two things I believe are from the Lord....

1) Monday, while meditating and praying, I saw myself in heaven....

2) Yesterday morning I awoke at 5:00 am. While fully awake but still in bed, I either felt, sensed, or heard these words:

THE HOUR HAS COME. I WILL DESCEND, YOU WILL ASCEND. THERE I WILL MEET YOU AND TAKE YOU AWAY TO BE WITH ME FOREVER. (emphasis mine)

ALSO FOUND ON FIVE DOVES SITE

From: Virginia Arnke (5 Nov 2010)
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/nov2010/virginiaa115-1.htm

9/12...The Lord spoke to me at 2:45PM "WE WILL SOON BE AT A FAR BETTER PLACE."

...8/19/10....I was given the number 94...This number I have mentioned before...I now believe that I was to count that number from the 19th of August which takes me to the 20th of November, 2010 and on August 21st I received the message "14 days left"..if you count from the 21st of November it takes us to the 3/4th of December...the third day of Hanukkah. Also the nunmber 94 could refer to the ninth month Kislev and 4th day of December which falls on Dec. 4, 2010. Hanukkah starts on Dec. 2nd and ends on the 9th of December....

In 2008 in March I was shown 7's in large black letters and was given a message spoken to me by a man and I and Star were told in a dream 'RAPTURE WILL BE A ON A FRIDAY'.

In 2007 I was told by the Lord He would come for me in the fall....

10/19/10 Jesus told Star, "the advent
of the Church coming home is at at hand... on 10/20 He told her "THE RAPTURE IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN". On the same day He said "TIME IS RUNNING OUT".

10/22/10 at 10:125 He spoke to Star's mind and said "HE IS GETTING READY TO CLOSE THE DOOR OF THE CHURCH".

...the Lord wants us to warn others to be READY AND IS KEEPING ME BUSY!!!. He healed me in July this year of two curveture's of the spine, therefore giving me much more strength to be about His business....

GOD BLESS...MARANATHA...Virginia Arnke

My comments

The Hebrew Date Converter says, "Thu, 2 December 2010 = 25th of Kislev, 5771." That's the beginning of Hanukkah, the Festival of Lights. Friday would be Dec. 3, the 40th day of Noah's Flood. The Ark probably grounded on Mt. Suliemon (Solomon) in Iran on the 40th day as the rain stopped and the water started to recede.

The anniversary of the day it started to rain in Noah's day was Cheshvan 17 (Oct. 25, 2010). That plus 40 days (counted by inclusive reckoning because it is a block of time) equals FRIDAY, Dec. 3, 2010. That could be the day of the Rapture.

We are the temple of the Holy Spirit, and Hanukkah is the Festival of Lights when the Temple was rededicated. Maybe Obama observing India's Diwali, Festival of Lights, is a sign. Hanukkah is the Festival of Lights when the LORD'S Temple was rededicated.

Haggai 2:18-23 says, "Consider now from this day and upward, from the FOUR AND TWENTIETH DAY OF THE NINTH MONTH, even from the day that the foundation of the LORD'S temple was laid (KISLEV 24), consider it.
Hag 2:19 Is the seed yet in the barn? yea, as yet the vine, and the fig tree, and the pomegranate, and THE OLIVE TREE, hath not brought forth: FROM THIS DAY (KISLEV 24) WILL I BLESS YOU.
Hag 2:20 And again the word of the LORD came unto Haggai in the four and twentieth day of the month, saying,
Hag 2:21 Speak to Zerubbabel, governor of Judah, saying, I will shake the heavens and the earth;
Hag 2:22 And I will overthrow the throne of kingdoms, and I will destroy the strength of the kingdoms of the heathen; and I will overthrow the chariots, and those that ride in them; and the horses and their riders shall come down, every one by the sword of his brother.
Hag 2:23 IN THAT DAY, SAITH THE LORD OF HOSTS, WILL I TAKE THEE, O Zerubbabel, my servant, the son of Shealtiel, saith the LORD, AND WILL MAKE THEE AS A SIGNET: FOR I HAVE CHOSEN THEE, SAITH THE LORD OF HOSTS."

24TH OF KISLEV, 5771 = WED, 1 DECEMBER 2010
25th of Kislev, 5771 = Thur, 2 December 2010, 1st day of Hanukkah
26th of Kislev, 5771 = FRIDAY, 3 December 2010, 40th day of Noah's Flood

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