Pro and Con 1609

Posted 5-22-2011

Japanese superquake moved ocean floor 79 feet sideways and 10 feet up - and new data shows region is under more strain

By Jane Bunce

And researchers are warning that immense amounts of seismic stress remain stored in the area, putting it at risk of further devastating earthquakes.

Measurements taken in the week following the earthquake showed that at the MYGI site, the sea floor had moved about 79 feet to the east-southeast since the previous measurement in February. It had also risen about 10 feet....

Under the seabed, the movement may have been even greater - perhaps 160 to 200 feet, by some estimates.

My reply to a post on Five Doves, Re: Ronelle (19 May 2011) "Sign of Jonah"

To: Ronelle, re: "Sign of Jonah," OUR 40 DAYS TO REPENT

Thanks for the reminder about the Sign of Jonah (meaning dove, sign of the Holy Spirit).

Jonah, at the Lord's bidding, marched into Nineveh saying that they had 40 days to repent or be destroyed. They repented.

Just maybe we had 40 days to repent, and if so, the time of waiting is almost over. Israel crossed the Jordan and went into the promised land in the 40th year. Maybe we will cross over and go to our promised land on the 40th day. The 40th day in the countdown of the Omer of barley harvest will be Ascension Day, Sunday May 29, 2011. The Philadelphian wise virgins could be caught up to Heaven on Ascension Day, the same day that Jesus, the Head of the Body of Christ, ascended. John 15:1 says, "I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.

2Ti 2:6 says, "The husbandman that laboureth must be first partaker of the fruits.

James 5:7 says, "Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain." The early rain, and Jesus' First Advent, came Tishri 1, first day of the Civil Year. The latter rain, and Jesus' Second Advent, is coming on Nisan 1, the first day of the Sacred, Regnal and Jubilee Year.

Song of Solomon 2:10-17 says, "My beloved (Christ) spake, and said unto me, RISE UP, my love, my fair one, and COME AWAY (in the Rapture). 11 For, lo, the winter is past (its spring), the rain (Nisan 1) is over and gone; 12 The flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle (lit., turtledove) is heard in our land (they come in April and leave in October); 13 The fig tree putteth forth her green figs (the spring crop, the best figs), and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell (the grapes are blossoming). ARISE, my love, my fair one, and COME AWAY. 14 O my dove, that art in the clefts of the rock (Jesus), in the secret places of the stairs (THE SECRET OF THE STAIRS), let me see thy countenance, let me hear thy voice; for sweet is thy voice, and thy countenance is comely. 15 Take us the foxes, the little foxes, that spoil the vines: for our vines have tender grapes. 16 My beloved is mine, and I am his: he feedeth among the lilies. 17 Until the day break, and the shadows flee away, turn, my beloved, and be thou like a roe or a young hart upon the mountains (plural) of Bether" (separation, i.e., there are 2 Raptures, maybe May 29, 2011 and Sept 14, 2015).

ON FIRSTFRUITS, IT LOOKS LIKE JESUS IS REPRESENTED BY THE LAMB AND WE ARE THE BARLEY HARVEST

Nisan 13, 3790 Thu Apr 6, 30 AD, Preparation of the Passover, Crucifixion
Nisan 14, 3790 Fri Apr 7, Passover
Nisan 15, 3790 Sat Apr 8, Unleavened Bread
Nisan 16, 3790 Sun Apr 9, Firstfruits, Resurrection Day for Jesus, the Lamb of God who was sacrificed for us, the barley harvest (wise Philadelphian virgins)

Like Nineveh, are we having a final 40 days to repent?

Nisan 16, 5771 Firstfruits Wed Apr 20, 2011, 1st Omer of barley harvest counted and waved before the Lord
Nisan 17 Thu Apr 21, 2nd Omer of barley harvest selected and waved
Nisan 18 Fri Apr 22, 3rd Omer of barley harvest selected and waved
Nisan 19 Sat Apr 23, 4th Omer of barley harvest selected and waved
Nisan 20 Sun Apr 24, 5th Omer of barley harvest selected and waved
Nisan 21 Mon Apr 25, 6th Omer of barley harvest selected and waved
Nisan 22 Tue Apr 26, 7th Omer of barley harvest selected and waved
Nisan 23 Wed Apr 27, 8th Omer of barley harvest selected and waved
Nisan 24 Thu Apr 28, 9th Omer of barley harvest selected and waved
Nisan 25 Fri Apr 29, 10th Omer of barley harvest selected and waved
Nisan 26 Sat Apr 30, 11th Omer of barley harvest selected and waved
Nisan 27 Sun May 1, 12th Omer of barley harvest selected and waved
Nisan 28 Mon May 2, 13th Omer of barley harvest selected and waved
Nisan 29 Tue May 3, 14th Omer of barley harvest selected and waved
Nisan 30 Wed May 4, 15th Omer of barley harvest selected and waved
Iyar 1 Thu May 5, 16th Omer of barley harvest selected and waved
Iyar 2 Fri May 6, 17th Omer of barley harvest selected and waved
Iyar 3 Sat May 7, 18th Omer of barley harvest selected and waved
Iyar 4 Sun May 8, 19th Omer of barley harvest selected and waved
Iyar 5 Mon May 9, 20th Omer of barley harvest selected and waved
Iyar 6 Tue May 10, 21st Omer of barley harvest selected and waved
Iyar 7 Wed May 11, 22nd Omer of barley harvest selected and waved
Iyar 8 Thu May 12, 23rd Omer of barley harvest selected and waved
Iyar 9 Fri May 13, 24th Omer of barley harvest selected and waved
Iyar 10 Sat May 14, 25th Omer of barley harvest selected and waved
Iyar 11 Sun May 15, 26th Omer of barley harvest selected and waved
Iyar 12 Mon May 16, 27th Omer of barley harvest selected and waved
Iyar 13 Tue May 17, 28th Omer of barley harvest selected and waved
Iyar 14 Wed May 18, 29th Omer of barley harvest selected and waved
Iyar 15 Thu May 19, 30th Omer of barley harvest selected and waved
Iyar 16 Fri May 20, 31st Omer of barley harvest selected and waved
Iyar 17 Sat May 21, 32nd Omer of barley harvest selected and waved
Iyar 18 Sun May 22, 33rd Omer of barley harvest selected and waved
Iyar 19 Mon May 23, 34th Omer of barley harvest selected and waved
Iyar 20 Tue May 24, 35th Omer of barley harvest selected and waved, John Tng's suggested Rapture date
Iyar 21 Wed May 25, 36th Omer of barley harvest selected and waved
Iyar 22 Thu May 26, 37th Omer of barley harvest selected and waved
Iyar 23 Fri May 27, 38th Omer of barley harvest selected and waved
Iyar 24 Sat May 28, 39th Omer of barley harvest selected and waved
Iyar 25 Sun May 29, 40th Omer of barley harvest selected and waved, ASCENSION DAY, maybe the day of our ASCENSION

Acts 1:4-12 says that Jesus, "being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but WAIT FOR THE PROMISE of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me."

Acts 1:5-12 says, "John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence. 6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? 7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. 8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you (i.e., on Pentecost): and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. 9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, HE WAS TAKEN UP; and a cloud received him out of their sight. 10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men (probably Moses and Elijah) stood by them in white apparel; 11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? THIS SAME JESUS, WHICH IS TAKEN UP FROM YOU INTO HEAVEN, SHALL SO COME IN LIKE MANNER (he ascended from Mt. Olivet and will return to Mt. Olivet at the Second Advent, Zech 14:5) as ye have seen him go into heaven. 12 Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem a sabbath day's journey."

WILL JESUS COME AT THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE ON ASCENSION DAY?

In the countdown of the Omer, Ascension Day is the 40th day. The sign of Jonah might be why Jesus chose to ascend on the 40th day. Maybe we will ascend on the 40th day, May 29, 2011.

Jonah 3:4 says, "And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown."

In Noah's day, it rained forty days and forty nights. Why forty? It is the number of testing, trial and probation. Each 40-day period ends with a time or item of blessing (Nave's Topical Bible). The Rapture would sure be a blessing.

Maybe we just had 40 days to repent on the Feast of Firstfruits, when the 40-day counting of the Omer to Ascension Day, May 29, 2011, began. Jesus, head of the Body of Christ ascended that day. Since he will come back in like manner, he could come for the wise-virgin Philadelphians, i.e., those for whom Jesus has no words of condemnation, on Ascension Day.

Rev 11:1-4 says, "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, RISE (as in Song of Solomon), and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them (the Philadelphians) that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses (Moses and Elijah), and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. 4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth." Moses and Elijah stood by Christ at the Transfiguration.

Zec 4:2-14 says, "And said unto me, What seest thou? And I said, I have looked, and behold a candlestick all of gold, with a bowl upon the top of it, and his seven lamps thereon, and seven pipes to the seven lamps, which are upon the top thereof: 3 says, "two olive trees by it, one upon the right side of the bowl, and the other upon the left side thereof. 4 says, "So I answered and spake to the angel that talked with me, saying, What are these, my lord? 5 Then the angel that talked with me answered and said unto me, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord. 6 Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts. 7 Who art thou, O great mountain? before Zerubbabel thou shalt become a plain: and he shall bring forth the headstone thereof with shoutings, crying, Grace, grace unto it. 8 Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, 9 The hands of Zerubbabel have laid the foundation of this house; his hands shall also finish it; and thou shalt know that the LORD of hosts hath sent me unto you. 10 For who hath despised the day of small things? for they shall rejoice, and shall see the plummet in the hand of Zerubbabel with those seven; they are the eyes of the LORD, which run to and fro through the whole earth. 11 Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof? 12 And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves? 13 And he answered me and said, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord. 14 Then said he, These are the two anointed ones (Moses and Elijah/Elias), that stand by the Lord of the whole earth" (i.e., at the Transfiguration).

Of the Transfiguration, Luke 9:30 says, "And, behold, there talked with him two men, which were Moses and Elias".

If Ascension Day is not the day of the first Rapture, I'll pin my hopes on Pentecost. My friend in Pensacola reminded me that:
1. WEDNESDAY, June 1, there will be a partial Solar eclipse
2. WEDNESDAY, June 8, will be Pentecost
3. WEDNESDAY, June 15, will be the first Bull's Eye Eclipse of a pair, the other will be on Friday, July 27, 2018

Eclipses bracket Pentecost, and the Bull's Eye Eclipses could span the Tribulation.

Keep watching. Agape

BREAKING NEWS ALERT: Iceland: Volcanic Eruption

May 21, 2011 - REYKJAVIK, Iceland Iceland's most active volcano, Grimsvotn, started erupting Saturday, 5-21-11, with a white plume shooting 18,000 feet into the sky.

The eruption was followed by around 50 small earthquakes, the largest of which measured 4.2 on the Richter Scale.

The Pope

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beast_(Bible)

The pope wears upon his pontifical crown in jeweled letters, this title: "Vicarius Filii Dei," "Viceregent of the Son of God;" the numerical value of which title is just six hundred and sixty-six. The most plausible supposition we have ever seen on this point is that here we find the number in question. It is the number of the beast, the papacy; it is the number of his name, for he adopts it as his distinctive title; it is the number of a man, for he who bears it is the "man of sin."...

My reply to a post on Five Doves site, Re: Jim Goodrick (20 May 2011) "2 Thessalonians 2:3"

> > 1. There will be no rapture until the "falling away" ( apostasy ) takes place....

What kind of apostacy could come that is not here already? The Greek "he apostacia" means "the departure." The verb form is used when one party DEPARTS after a divorce.

> > and there will be no rapture until :
> > 2. The man of sin ( the future antichrist ) will be revealed by SITTING in the temple as God.

The First-Trump Rapture takes place before Mid-Trib (Rev 4:1). Satan cannot enter into the man of sin until Satan is cast down from heaven Mid-Trib (Rev 12:9).

The man of sin will be the Satan-possessed son of perdition, the False Prophet. Satan cannot enter into him until Mid-Trib. Rev 12:7-9 says, "And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out INTO THE EARTH, and his angels were cast out with him."

Rev 17:8 says, "The beast (Satan) that thou sawest was (in Judas Iscariot, the first son of perdition), and is not (in man now); and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition (the False Prophet, the 2nd and last son of perdition): and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was (in man, Judas Iscariot), and is not (in man now), and yet is (exists)."

> > Until those two events take place, it is too far out of the ballpark to configure, even with disclaimers.
> > Now a person can twist 2 Thessalonians 2:3 all to pieces until it "says" 180 degrees the opposite of what it simply says : no rapture until 2 things happen first.

The New Testament was written in Greek. We can be misled by two errors in the English KJV translation of 2Th 2:2-4.

It says, "That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the DAY OF CHRIST (should be DAY OF THE LORD, i.e., the day of the second Rapture and the Day of God's Wrath) is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a FALLING AWAY (a DEPARTING, i.e., the First-Trump Rapture) FIRST, and that man of sin be revealed (SECOND), the son of perdition (i.e., the Satan-possessed False Prophet); 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God" (Mid-Trib).

The First-Trump Rapture of I Thess 4:16,17 will take place first, before Mid-Trib. Satan will be cast out of Heaven Mid-Trib and be cast "INTO" the Earth. After that, Satan will come up out of the Earth and go into the False Prophet, who will be revealed as the "man of sin" when he sits in the Temple "shewing himself that he is God," thus desecrating the Temple.

The Introduction of the Tischendorf New Testament tells us when three older copies of the Bible were found that were not available to the translators when the KJV was published in 1611. The KJV was the first translation to make the mistake of "apostacy" in 2Thess 2:3,4. Previous translations had departing.

In his New Testament, Tischendorf noted where the older copies differed from the KJV. That makes his work outstanding.

The Vatican Codex (V) was found in the Vatican library. When it was acquired is not known, but it was listed in their first catalog, dated 1475.

The Alexandrin Codex (A) was presented to King Charles in 1628 by the Patriarch of Constantinople. Having previously been the Patriarch of Alexandria, he had brought the Codex from Alexandria himself. Unger's Bible Dictionary said it was published in 1078.

Parts of the Sinaitic Codex (S) were found by Tichendorf himself in 1844 and1859 at the Convent of St. Catherine on what is commonly thought to be Mt. Sinai. (I think it was Mt. Jebel Helal in the desert nearer the Mediterranean Sea, because they never left the desert on the way to Mt. Sinai.)

2Th 2:2-4 (KJV) says, "That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the DAY OF CHRIST (should be DAY OF THE LORD, which is Jesus' Long Day, the Day of God's Wrath) is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a FALLING AWAY first, and that man of sin (the False Prophet) be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God."

Tishindorf's note at the bottom of the page says that the "DAY OF CHRIST" was the "DAY OF THE LORD" in "SVA," meaning that all three older copies, Sinaiatic, Vaticanus and Alexandrian, had "DAY OF THE LORD."

The DAY OF THE LORD is one long day, the DAY OF GOD'S WRATH, at the end of the Great Tribulation, the shortened last half of the Tribulation. That will be the day of the Last-Trump Rapture (I Cor 15:51-54), not the First-Trump Rapture (I Thess 4:16,17), which precedes the time when the False Prophet is revealed.

At the first Rapture, the wise-virgin Philadelphian saints, for which the Lord has no words of condemnation, will be caught up to Heaven. At that time, those saints will become incorruptible, but not yet immortal. At the second Rapture, ALL saints will become immortal.

I Cor 15:51-53 says, "Behold, I shew you a mystery; We (all believers) shall not all sleep (i.e., die), but we shall ALL (including Paul) be CHANGED, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, AT THE LAST TRUMP (but not at the first trump): for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible (those caught up in the first Rapture are also incorruptible), and we (all the saints, INCLUDING PAUL) shall be CHANGED. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption (that happens at the first Rapture, which takes place before Mid-Trib), and this mortal must put on immortality" (that happens at the last Rapture, which takes place before God's wrath falls on Earth on the great and terrible Day of the Lord).

The KJV's "falling away first," should have been translated as "DEPARTING FIRST", i.e., the First-Trump Rapture will take place before the man of sin, the False Prophet, second beast of Rev 13, is revealed.

I Thess 2:3,4 in the Tyndale Bible says,"Let no man deceave you by eny meanes for THE LORDE COMMETH NOT EXCEPTE THER COME A DEPARTYNGE FIRST and that that synfull man be opened ye sonne of perdicion 4 which is an adversarie and is exalted above all that is called god or that is worshipped: so that he shall sitt as God in temple of god and shew him silfe as god."

2Th 2:3,4 in the Geneva Bible says, "Let no man deceiue you by any meanes: for that day shall not come, except there come a DEPARTING FIRST, and that that man of sinne be disclosed, euen the sonne of perdition, 4 Which is an aduersarie, and exalteth him selfe against all that is called God, or that is worshipped: so that he doeth sit as God in the Temple of God, shewing him selfe that he is God."

Seven early Bibles have DEPARTING FIRST in 2 Thess. 2:3. We are on solid ground if we accept it.

1. Wycliffe Bible (1330) has "departynge first"
2. Tyndale Bible (1525/26) has "departynge first"
3. Coverdale Bible 1535) has "departynge first"
4. Crammer Bible (1539) has "departynge first"
5. Geneva Bible (1560) has "departing first"
6. Breeches Bible (1583) has "departing first"
It is listed separately and dated differently. However, Breeches Bible seems to be a book-collector's term for the earlier Geneva Bible
7. Beza Bible (1583) has "departing first"

The KJV translation of 1611 was the first to make the 2 errors in 2 Thess. 2:3,4. Several modern translations followed in the KJV footsteps, but the World English Bible corrected the second error.

The "departing first" is the First-Trump Rapture. It comes before the man of sin, the False Prophet, is revealed Mid-Trib.

I just downloaded the entire World English Bible, a modern update of the ASV of 1901, for eSword from http://ebible.org/web/

Below is 2 Thess 2:1-4 (WEB). The Day of Christ (the first Rapture) should be Day of the Lord (the second Rapture and Day of God's Wrath), but the main thing, "the departure", is correct.

2Th 2:1-4 (WEB) "Now, brothers, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and our gathering together to him, we ask you 2 not to be quickly shaken in your mind, nor yet be troubled, either by spirit, or by word, or by letter as from us, saying that the DAY OF CHRIST had come. 3 Let no one deceive you in any way. For it will not be, unless THE DEPARTURE comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of destruction, 4 he who opposes and exalts himself against all that is called God or that is worshiped; so that he sits as God in the temple of God, setting himself up as God." Agape

Incoming e-mail, Re: Calculating a Generation and other questions.

Can you provide the details of how you get to 48.3 yrs from Matt 1:17. There is a ton of mis information on this when you do a google search. Yet it is so key to your writings.

Also how to we get to Jesus being born on Tishri 1? I'm OK with your writings that he was conceived on Hanukkah. So I can see that his birth was around Tishri 1. Is it an educated guess?
Could Obama turn out to be one of the beasts of Revelation? Some have thought so from the beginning. I'm not yet sure. Others have said no very strongly. I'm considering that Israeli leaders are coming to the US for help with the mideast treaty. If it moves forward quickly (such as by Sept via Obama pushing the UN), it seems likely that Israel would then invite Obama over and parade him around in a grand fashion to thank him. Seems likely he'd have to tour the temple. It also seems more likely by the day that an attempt will come on his life. Maybe by those upset at Bin Laden's death. Or those unhappy with the mideast treaty. His physical recovery and work on the mideast peace treaty would then be praised by the pope (2nd beast you recently wrote about).

Would that make the pope his 'prophet'? Recalling 2 Thess 2 - doesn't Obama already seem to be heading toward that position?

Your recent P&C 1606 was helpful. The pope seems intent on setting up his throne in Jerusalem.

My reply

> > Can you provide the details of how you get to 48.3 yrs from Matt 1:17.

Yes. Mt 1:17 says, "So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations." That's 42 generations.

2035 BC (birth of Abraham, gleaned from my Old Testament Bible Chronology posted on my web site) minus 5 (because Jesus was born in 5 BC) equals 2030 yrs.

2030 yrs
divided by 42 generations
equals 48.3333 years for one generation

> > Also how to we get to Jesus being born on Tishri 1? I'm OK with your writings that he was conceived on Hanukkah. So I can see that his birth was around Tishri 1. Is it an educated guess?

No, I get it from Scripture.

De 11:14 says, "I will give you the rain of your land in HIS DUE SEASON, the first rain and the latter rain".

Jesus is called the "Sun of righteousness. Mal 4:2 says, "But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings."

Hosea 6:3 says, "the LORD: his going forth (motsa, specifically dawn, the RISING OF THE SUN, the East) is prepared as the morning (shachar, dawn, early light, i.e., sunrise); and he (the LORD, YHWH, i.e., Jesus, Isa 44:6) shall COME unto us as the rain, as the latter (malqosh, spring rain, i.e., Nisan 1) and former rain (yoreh, autumn showers, i.e., Tishri 1) unto the earth."

Joel 2:23 says, "Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the LORD (YHWH) your God: for he hath given you the former rain (First Advent of Christ) moderately, and he will cause to come down for you the rain, THE FORMER RAIN, AND THE LATTER RAIN IN THE FIRST MONTH." Tishri is the first month of the Civil Year. Nisan is the first month of the Sacred Year, the Regnal Year and the Jubilee Year.

Jer 5:24 Neither say they in their heart, Let us now fear the LORD (YHWH) our God, that giveth RAIN, BOTH THE FORMER (yoreh, autumn showers) AND THE LATTER (malqosh, spring rain), IN HIS (Jesus') SEASON (eth, time): HE RESERVETH UNTO US THE APPOINTED WEEKS (shabua, sevened, a week of days, or years, as in Dan 9:25) OF THE HARVEST (barley, Firstfruits [Jesus' resurrection] to ASCENSION DAY [first Rapture?]; Wheat, Pentecost [coming of indwelling Holy Spirit, birth of the Church] to FEAST OF TRUMPETS" [last Rapture]).

Eze 29:17 sets the month and day. It says, "in the first month, in the first day of the month (Nisan 1), the WORD of the LORD (i.e., Jesus, John 1:1-3), came unto me."

Then Eze 29:21 says, "In that day (Nisan 1) will I cause the horn (king) of the house of Israel (Jesus) to bud forth (tsamach, spring up), and I will give thee the opening of the mouth (the WORD, i.e., Jesus) in the midst of them; and they shall know that I (the WORD, Jesus) am the LORD (YHWH)", i.e., the LORD of hosts.

Isa 44:6 says, "Thus saith the LORD (YHWH) the King of Israel, and his REDEEMER (Jesus) the LORD (YHWH) of hosts (Jesus); I am the first (YHWH King of Israel), and I am the last (YHWH of hosts); and beside me there is no God."

John 1:1 says, "In the beginning was the WORD (Jesus), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

In Rev 1:8, Jesus said, "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning (YHWH King of Israel) and the ending (YHWH of hosts), saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty."

In Rev 22:13, Jesus said, "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last."

The former rain comes on Tishri 1. The latter rain comes on Nisan 1 (Unger's Bible Dictionary, Calendar).

> > Could Obama turn out to be one of the beasts of Revelation?

I doubt it. I think the Antichrist, first beast of Rev 13, will be the religious leader, the Pope, who's title Pontifex Maximus, High Priest (the name of blasphemy when applied to anyone other than Christ) and Vicarius (meaning anti) Filii (son of) Deus (God)."

Rev 13:1-10 says, "I stood upon the sand of the sea (i.e., on the beach), and saw a beast (therion, DANGEROUS WILD ANIMAL, i.e., the great red dragon) rise up out of the sea (PEOPLE, NATIONS, MULTITUDES, TONGUES, Rev 17:15), having seven heads (Babel, Babylon II, Media-Persia, Greece, Holy Roman Empire, Ecclesiastical Roman Empire, and Babylon III) and ten horns, and upon his horns TEN CROWNS (i.e., the time is after the first Rapture, Rev 17:12,15), and upon his 7 heads the name of blasphemy (PONTIFEX MAXIMUS, the High Priest, a title first assumed by Nimrod). And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard (Greece, Dan 7:6), and his feet were as the feet of a bear (Media-Persia, Dan 7:5), and his mouth as the mouth of a lion (Babylon, Dan 7:4, i.e., like Nebuchadnezzar): and the dragon (Satan) gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. 3 And I saw one of his heads (the 5th) as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed (it became the 6th, the Pope of the Ecclesiastical Roman Empire): and all the world wondered after the beast. 4 And they worshipped the dragon (Satan) which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? 5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months (first half of the Tribulation). 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and THEM (the Philadelphian saints) THAT DWELL IN HEAVEN (i.e., the time is after the first Rapture). 7 And it was given unto him to make WAR WITH THE SAINTS (the Laodiceans), AND TO OVERCOME THEM: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth (including the Moslems) shall worship him (as their Mahdi?), whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9 If any man have an ear, let him hear. 10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword."

In midieval times, Popes struggled with other monarchs for control over Church and State. The Popes crowned emperors too. The first emperor he crowned was Charlemagne. Just as the Pope was the vicar of God on earth in spiritual matters, so the emperor was God's temporal vicar.

Napoleon abolished the Holy Roman Empire. Since then, the Popes have carried on the Roman Ecclesiastical Empire.

The setting of Rev 17 is when the First-Trump Rapture has just taken place. Of Jesus, Rev 17:14 says, "he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and THEY THAT ARE WITH HIM ARE CALLED, AND CHOSEN, AND FAITHFUL." Rev 17:10 says, "there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come".

The Empires
1. Babel - fallen
2. Babylon II, like a lion - fallen
3. Media-Persia, like a bear - fallen
4. Greece, like a leopard - fallen
5. Holy Roman Empire - fallen
6. Ecclesiastical Roman Empire, "diverse from all the beasts that were before it" - the leader, i.e., "ONE IS." in office when the First-Trump Rapture takes place
7. Babylon III, and the Satan-possessed False Prophet - not yet come

The Ecclesiastical Roman Empire is in existance when the first Rapture takes place. Its leader is the Pope, the first beast of Rev 13. I don't see Obama heading up the world church. A Pope would be a natural for that office.

Rev 6:2-4 says, "I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow (toxon, simple fabric, sign of a man of the cloth, i.e., the Pope); and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer. 3 And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see. 4 And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon (probably the Pope) to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great SWORD." Agape

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