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SCARY FOR BOATS: IF THE WATERSPOUT DIDN'T GET YOU, THE LIGHTNING COULD
Found on Five Doves site, Re: Gerry Almond (17 June 2011)
"PLEASE READ THIS...IT IS IMPORTANT"
TO ALL DOVES AND WATCHING CHRISTIANS
For those still doubting that the 70th week of Daniel’s prophecy of the end times began 10/29/30/2011, a double witness has been provided. Just consider them and see if you agree that the 70th week is WELL underway, over 2 ˝ years now.
The tetrads of eclipses identified and publicized through the primary work of Mark Biltz, Seattle pastor, which mark out a 7 year period ENDING 9/23/2015, the date of the Feast of Tabernacles in 2015. These have had so much coverage, that by now they are probably second nature to watchers who understand the prophecies of Daniel.
Probably the most compelling evidence that the 70th week is identified as ending on 9/23/2015 is the count of days of the Jewish (re)gathering into the holy land. As I have posted before, the count is EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE COUNT OF THE DAYS OF NOAH IN CONSTRUCTING THE ARK. Why is applicable? Because it is in the book of Matthew, THE GOSPEL WRITTEN TO THE JEWS TO PRESENT JESUS AS THE KING OF THE JEWS, that the verse is given in chapter 24, telling them that “as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it also be in the days of the coming of the son of man” (vs ). From the first day of the (re)gathering of the Jews to go back to Palestine after 1,817 years of exile on 8/31/1897 to the time until 9/23/2015 counts to exactly 43,125 days. Simply add the 75 days found in Daniel 12 and wa-la, you have 43,200 days total.
Simply multiply 120 years of Noah’s time by 360 days per year (as the year was then) and wa-la, you have 43,200 days. This is ABSOLUTE PROOF that the end for Israel is 9/23/2015 plus 75 days to 12/7/2015. NO LATER THAN THIS IS THE END OF THE MATTER. This means that 12/8/2015 is the first day of the KINGDOM AGE!
Theodor Herzel founded modern Israel on 8/31/1897 with the proclamation of the first Jewish Congress which opened Palestine to a Jewish presence. Later, Israel was born by an act of the United Nations on 5/14/1948. Then Israel took Jerusalem on 6/7/1967 in the 6 day war. They then captured the Golan Heights on October 11, 1973 to secure the northern border against Syria and Lebanon. Since then, peace deals by the dozens have come and gone, and now Israel is faced with possibly a forced deal after abandonment of the United States via President Barack Obama. This leaves them with only one protector…. ALMIGHTY GOD!. And in a scant 299 days from now, they will be faced with fleeing from the awful abomination.
There you have the double witness. And if you wish to see other witnesses, read Ron Reese’s work and he will present you with about 3 or 4 more.
This means that taking 12/23/2015 less the days of the second half of the 70th week which, as you know are 1,260, gives us 4/11/12/2012 as the center point of the 70th week, the time when the man of sin must reveal himself in the temple, by delaring himself to god or godlike. This is called the “abomination that makes desolate”. It is at this time that the Jews are told to flee. Do you realize that there are only 299 days left from today 6/17/2011?
8/31/1897…43,125 days…9/23/2015…75 days…12/7/2015
Count back 1,335 days from 12/7/2015 to find the center of the 70th week.
12/7/2015……………minus 1,335 days………………4/12/2012
This is the day the antichrist reveals himself.
Count back 299 days from 4/12/2012 and YOU ARE HERE TODAY!
ONLY 299 DAYS AND SOMEWHERE IN THEM IS THE RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH. Some are looking to September, some earlier. It doesn’t matter when exactly, but we need to realize that the time is very short. For instance, it is only 101 days from now until Elenin is here at its closest. Some expect darkness for three days when it arrives, so add three days and get at most 104 days from NOW! What will you do with these days?
Joshua said it best when he declared that “As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord”. (Genesis ). Look up and lift up your head, for our redemption draws nigh!
Maranatha, YBIC Gerry Almond
Thanks for sharing your figures with us. I'll share some of mine too.
> > 12/8/2015 is the first day of the KINGDOM AGE!
Have you figured out how much the days of the Tribulation will be shortened? In Mt 24:22, Jesus said, "And except those days should be SHORTENED, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake THOSE DAYS SHALL BE SHORTENED." I think the Tribulation will last 2300 days and end on the Feast of Trumpets, Sept 14, 2015. Why?
Dan 8:13,14 says, "Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? 14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed."
If the Tribulation started on Pentecost, May 29, 2009, Christ's Kingdom would start on the Feast of Trumpets, Sept 14, 2015, which should be the day of the Last-Trump Rapture, the day Gog's army attacks Israel, the great and terrible Day of the Lord, the Day of the Judgment Seat of Christ, and the Day of God's Wrath. Keep in mind that blocks of time are to be figured inclusively.
Joel 2:1-3 says, "Blow ye the TRUMPET in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the DAY OF THE LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand; 2 A DAY OF DARKNESS and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong (Gog's army); there hath not been ever the like (in other words, Gog's army does not attack at the beginning of the Tribulation as some say), neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations. 3 A fire devoureth before them; and behind them a flame burneth: the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yea, and nothing shall escape them."
Rev 6:12-17 says, "And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood (THAT COULD BE THE ECLIPSE OF THE EVE OF TRUMPETS, SEPT 13, 2011); 13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. 14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne (i.e., they have seen the Sign of the Son of Man in the sky), and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17 For THE GREAT DAY OF HIS WRATH IS COME; and who shall be able to stand?"
Probably no one will be able to stand. That is when the worldwide earthquake will take place. Every wall shall fall (Eze 38:18-20). Cities will be in shambles.
The Last-Trump Rapture is in Rev 7:9-14. Then in Rev 8, there is a respectful silence in heaven while the Judge is being seated on the Judgment Seat of Christ.
Rev 8:1 says, "And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was SILENCE IN HEAVEN about the space of half an hour."
There will also be silence on Earth.
Hab_2:20 says, "the LORD is in his holy temple: let all the EARTH KEEP SILENCE before him". Agape
LAWMAKERS SUE OBAMA TO STOP U.S. OPERATIONS IN LYBIA
By Billy Hallowell - 6-16-2011 - TheBlaze.com
Today, lawmakers from both parties announced a lawsuit they have launched against the White House. The purpose? To challenge U.S. operations in Libya. This is a rare development...
USA: New World Order - UN
OBAMA SAYS MILITARY ACTION IN LYBIA WAS AUTHORIZED BY THE UNITED NATIONS AND CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL WAS NOT NEEDED
06-17-2011 8:29 pm - John W. Wallace
(CNSNews.com) — In a 30-page report justifying continued military involvement in the NATO-led strikes in Libya, the Obama administration claims that U.S. military involvement is “legitimated” by the UN Security Council
USA : New World Order - UN
WELCOME TO WAR #5: U.S. FIGHTER JETS AND DRONES ATTACK YEMEN SITES
06-10-2011 - Mark Mazzetti - NY Times
WASHINGTON — The Obama administration has intensified the American covert war in Yemen
"The Feast of Weeks is associated with the birth of Israel and the giving of the Law in Exodus 19. Thus, it is also called the Feast of Revelation.
"Since the Passover was on the 14th of Nisan, and there were three days to the Red Sea crossing, then 46 days into the wilderness, and three days of Moses' preparation, this is deemed to correspond to the 49 day interval between the Feast of First Fruits (17th of Nisan) and the 6th of Sivan.'
I think Omer 1 has to be Nisan 16 for the 50th day to be Sivan 6.
My reply to a post on Five Doves, Re: Taylor: "Rapture 2011"
We differ on a few things, but you just might be right about the First-Trump Rapture being on the Feast of Trumpets (THURSDAY, Sept 29, 2011). Didn't someone post that the Rapture would be on Thursday?
> > Feast of trumpets (Lev.23:23-25) (Sept.29-30, 2011)
...FULFILLED BY THE RAPTURE OF SAINTS
This way the entire Bride of Christ (saints of both Raptures) would have the September birthstone, the sapphire, which means Heaven. The throne of Christ is there. The Last-Trump Rapture will be on Trumpets on the Day of God's Wrath.
Jesus is the Redeemer, the LORD (YHWH) of hosts, the King of Israel. Isa 44:6 says, "Thus saith the LORD (YHWH) the King of Israel, and his REDEEMER THE LORD (YHWH) OF HOSTS; I am the first (LORD of the Old Testament), and I am the last (Lord of the New Testament); and beside me there is no God."
The Son of God is GOD incarnate. No wonder that in John_10:30, Jesus said, "I and my Father are one."
John_1:18 says, "No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him."
Ex_24:10 says, "And they saw the God of Israel (i.e., the preincarnate Christ): and there was under his feet as it were (symbolic language, i.e., as if it were) a paved work of a SAPPHIRE stone, and as it were (as if it were) the body of heaven (i.e., the heavenly body) in his (or its) clearness."
According to my Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, Sapphire means dear to the planet Saturn from the Sanskrit Sani (Saturn) and priya (dear). As the September birthstone, the sapphire means Heaven (i.e., Saturn).
Eze 1:1,26-28 says, "1 ...the heavens were opened, and I SAW VISIONS OF GOD....26 And above the firmament that was over their heads (farther out in space than the 4 terrestrial planets, including Earth, Eze 1:15) was the likeness (symbolic language) of a THRONE, as (symbolic language, meaning as if it were) the appearance of a SAPPHIRE stone (symbol of Heaven): and upon the likeness (symbolic language) of the THRONE was the likeness as (symbolic language, i.e., as if it were) the appearance of A MAN (i.e., the only God/man, Jesus Christ) above (i.e., farther out in the heavens than the terrestrial planets) upon it. 27 And I saw as the colour of amber (Saturn has amber on it), as the appearance of fire round about within it (Saturn gives off more heat than it receives from the Sun), from the appearance of his loins (from the equator) even upward, and from the appearance of his loins (from the equator) even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness round about (i.e., Saturn's rings around Heaven). 28 As the appearance of the bow (rainbow) that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This (Saturn's ring system) was the appearance of the likeness (symbolic language) of the glory of the LORD."
No wonder artists represent both the Lord and his throne with a halo.
> > September 10, 2018 - Rapture of the Tribulation Saints
I think the Last-Trump Rapture will be on the Day of God's Wrath, the Feast of Trumpets, Tishri 1, 5776, Sept 14, 2015.
The Jubilee Year would start at the Second Advent on Nisan 1, 5776, April 9, 2016. The Jubilee year must be preceded by a Sabbatic Year, and 5775 is Sabbatic. That limits which year can be a Jubilee. It seems to lock in that final year as 5776. The year 5783 is too far in the future.
1967 + 50 = 2017. I figure that the Jubilee Year should start at the Second Advent, Nisan 1, 5776 (Saturday, the Sabbath, April 9, 2016) and end Nisan 1, 5777 (Tue, March 28, 2017).
Also, the last generation started with the Six-Day War (Mt 24:32-34). According to Mt 1:17, a generation is 48.33 years (2030 years divided by 42 generations equals 48.33). Adding one generation to the end of the Six-Day War brings us to Tishri 1, 5776, Sept 14, 2015.
> > Noah was sealed in the arc 7 days before the judgment of the world-wide flood came upon the earth. It didn’t start raining as soon as the righteous were safe (Gen.7:1-10).
I think the Lord closed Noah into the Ark on Cheshvan 17, the very day it began to rain.
Gen 7:11-17 says, "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month (Cheshvan 17), the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. 12 And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights. 13 IN THE SELFSAME DAY (CHESHVAN 17) entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah's wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark; 11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. 12 And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights. 13 IN THE SELFSAME DAY (Cheshvan 17) ENTERED NOAH, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah's wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, INTO THE ARK".
> > 6. The "Open Door" of the rapture in Matt 25, and Rev 3, & Rev 4:1 is a symbol of the Feast of Trumpets. [Ezek. 46:1] "Thus says the Lord GOD: The gate of the inner court that faces east shall be shut on the six working days; but ON THE SABBATH DAY IT SHALL BE OPENED AND ON THE DAY OF THE NEW MOON IT SHALL BE OPENED." (emphasis mine)
> > 7. We are told that the new moon and the Feasts of the Lord are a shadow of things to come in Col 2:16, 17. Since the Feast of Trumpets is the only Feast of the Lord that falls on a new moon, we should take particular note.
Col 2:16,17 says, "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ."
That's interesting. The Feast of Trumpets is a "holyday", a "new moon" and an annual Sabbath all wrapped up in one.
BTW, Did you know that there is a 7 month interval between the Day of God's Wrath and the Second Advent? This means that the last year will be a Leap Year. 5776 is a Leap Year.
Eze 39:12,13 says, "And SEVEN MONTHS shall the house of Israel be burying of them (5/6th of Gog's army), that they may cleanse the land. 13 Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown the day that I shall be glorified (i.e., at the Second Advent), saith the Lord GOD."
For there to be 7 months between Tishri 1 and the following Nisan 1, that year has to be a Leap Year with the 13th month, Adar II. 5776 IS A LEAP YEAR.
> > (3) The time of the rapture of the 144,000 Jews shouts them to be represented by the manchild. If the 144,000 are seen on Earth up to the middle of the Week, and in Heaven immediately after the seventh trumpet which blows in the middle of the Week, then they are sure to be raptured as the manchild in the middle of the Week.
I don't think the seventh trumpet will blow at Mid-Trib. The Manchild is Jesus. I think he was born on Tishri 1, Sept 4, 5 BC, when the Moon was under the feet of Virgo.
I expect the 144,000 to be raptured on the Day of God's Wrath, the Feast of Trumpets, Sept 14, 2015.
> > the seventh trumpet which blows in the middle of the Week
The seventh trumpet can't blow until the Day of God's Wrath. I think that comes at the end of the Great Tribulation, probably the Feast of Trumpets, Tishri 1, 5776, Sept 14, 2015.
Rev 8:1,2 says, "And when he had opened the SEVENTH SEAL, there was SILENCE IN HEAVEN about the space of half an hour. 2 And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given SEVEN TRUMPETS."
There will be silence in both Heaven and Earth while Jesus is being seated as judge at the Judgement Seat of Ckrist. Hab_2:20 says, "But the LORD is in his holy temple: let all the EARTH KEEP SILENCE before him."
Only after Jesus' judgment is handed down will the seven trumpets of judgment begin to sound. Before the first trumpet sounds, Rev 8:3-6 says, "And ANOTHER ANGEL came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer (probably globe shaped); and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne. 4 And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand. 5 And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth (representing Earth getting struck by Satan's asteroid Wormwood; Rev 8:8-11): and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake (worldwide). 6 And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound."
> > The privileges of the 144,000 in Heaven show them to be a distinct company of redeemed from the Earth who will have part in the first resurrection. When, if not as the manchild? They will form one of the wonderful choirs of Heaven and sing a secret song that no man knows "but the hundred and forty and four thousand" (Rev. 14:1-3). The thought is not that others will not understand the words of the song but, not having had the particular experience it will describe, they will not be able to sing its particular message. The song will be accompanied by harps and sung before the throne and all heavenly inhabitants, but, apart from this, we know nothing about it. This is the only mention made of a song and no reference is made to the words or the nature of it. It is to be a new song, by a new company and with a new theme, which further indicates that those who sing it are saved and translated as a living company after the rapture of the church. They will have undergone the same trials, will have been protected from the same judgments, and will have been translated from the wrath of the dragon at the time that the woman travails, in the middle of the Week. Therefore, only the 144,000 will be able to sing this song.
The saints caught up in the First-Trump Rapture will sing the "NEW SONG."
Rev 5:9,10 says, "And they (i.e., the wise virgins) sung a NEW SONG, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; 10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on (epi, on or over) the earth."
The First-Trump Rapture is the only chance the Gentiles have to sing the NEW SONG. Only the 144,000 Israelites can sing the NEW SONG at the Last-Trump Rapture. Maybe the First-Trump Rapture of I Thess 4:16,17 will be on the Feast of Trumpets, Tishri 1, 5772, Thursday, Sept 29, 2011.
Rev 14:1-5 says, "I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads. 2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: 3 And they sung as it were a NEW SONG before the throne, and before the four beasts (whose four faces stand for the cardinal compass points), and the elders (12 patriarchs and 12 apostles of Israel): and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. 4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for THEY ARE VIRGINS (i.e., foolish virgins become wise after the first Rapture). These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. 5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God."
Psa 149:1-9 says, "Praise ye the LORD. SING unto the LORD a NEW SONG, and his praise in the congregation of saints (in Heaven). 2 Let Israel rejoice in him that made him: let the children of Zion be joyful in their King. 3 Let them praise his name in the dance: let them sing praises unto him with the timbrel and harp. 4 For the LORD taketh pleasure in his people: he will beautify the meek with salvation. 5 Let the saints be joyful in glory (in Heaven): let them SING aloud upon their beds. 6 Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a twoedged sword in their hand; 7 To execute vengeance upon the heathen, and punishments upon the people; 8 To bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron; 9 To execute upon them the judgment written: this honour have ALL HIS SAINTS. Praise ye the LORD."
It looks like the Last-Trump Rapture will be on Tishri 1, 5776, Monday, Sept 14, 2015.
On Thursday, Sept 29, 2011 the sign of the Moon under Virgo's feet will be seen again in the sky. That sign only happens on Trumpets every 4th or 5th year. It happened when Jesus was born, and it looks like it will happen when the wise virgins are caught up to Heaven in the First-Trump Rapture.
Why do the Jews say the first trump is sounded on Pentecost? That seems to be misleading. Time will tell. They say the last trump is sounded on the Feast of Trumpets. That sounds right. Just maybe the first trump and the last trump are both part of the 100 times the trumpet is sounded on the Feast of Trumpets.
Why is the trumpet sounded 100 times on the Feast of Trumpets? I'd sure like to know more about the Jewish teachings about the first trump (sounded on Pentecost), the last trump (sounded on Trumpets), the great trump (sounded on the Day of Atonement), and the difference in the views of the Sadducees and the Pharisees. Who said the trumpet should blow 100 times? Who said it should be blown on each of the 30 preceeding days?
Nu 10:1-4 says, "And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 2 Make thee TWO TRUMPETS OF SILVER; of a whole piece shalt thou make them: that thou mayest use them (i.e., BOTH) for the calling of the assembly (Heb 12:23,24), and for the journeying of the camps. 3 And when they shall blow with them (i.e., both), all the assembly shall assemble themselves to thee at the door (symbol of a Rapture) of the tabernacle of the congregation. 4 And if they blow but with one trumpet, then the princes (i.e., the elders of Rev 4:4), which are heads of the thousands of Israel, shall gather themselves unto thee" (at the First-Trump Rapture).
> > May 28, 2018 The end of the 2300 days
Mon, 28 May 2018 = 14th of Sivan, 5778. I think the 2300 days have to end on the Day of God's Wrath, which will probably be Tishri 1, 5776, Sept 14, 2015.
The last year should be a Jubilee Year, announced on the Day of Atonement, Sept 23, 2015, Tishri 10, 5776, and starting with the Second Advent on the following Nisan 1, 5776, April 9, 2016.
A Sabbatic year has to precede the Jubilee Year. Therefore, the previous year has to be a Sabbatic Year. 5775 is a Sabbatic Year. 5777 is not. The next available Sabbatic Year is 5782. 5783 is too far in the future to be the Jubilee. Israel got possession of the rest of Jerusalem and the Temple Mount in 1967. 1967 + 50 = 2017. I think the Jubilee year will run from Nisan 1, 5776 (Sat, April 9, 2016) to Nisan 1, 5777 (Tue, 28 March 2017). Agape
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