Pro and Con 1624
Margie, thanks for posting this precious picture on Five Doves site
2015 is marked
When checking the schedule for solar eclipses, Biltz found two – one on the first day of the Hebrew year and the next on the high holy day of Rosh Hashanah, the first day of the seventh Hebrew month. Both of these take place in the 2014-2015 year.
Biltz says, "You have the religious year beginning with the total solar eclipse, two weeks later a total lunar eclipse on Passover, and then the civil year beginning with the solar eclipse followed two weeks later by another total blood red moon on the Feast of Succoth all in 2015."
Incoming e-mail, Re: Encouragement While Waiting for the Bridegroom
Thinking of verses to encourage us all as we wait for the Bridegroom with our lamps burning.
The Lord brought to mind these verses as I was considering this Economic Depressions that continues to drain our jobs and wallets and the politicians in Washington, D.C., who daily vex our souls. And I thought our hope of the soon return of our Lord and the rapture of the bride.
20 my soul is downcast within me. (due to this Depression and economic woes so many of us are experiencing) 21 Yet this I call to mind and therefore I have hope: 22 Because of the LORD’s great love we are not consumed, (He will get us through or out of these times.) for his compassions never fail. 23 They are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. 24 I say to myself, “The LORD is my portion; therefore I will wait for him.” (hoping for the soon coming Rapture of the Bride.)
25 The LORD is good to those whose hope is in him, to the one who seeks him; 26 it is good to wait quietly for the salvation of the LORD.
Lamentations 3:20b-26 (NIV1984) And then as I was considering the soon coming Rapture I thought how wonderful it would be to hear Joshua 3:5 and to know that the Rapture was going to be the next day!
Joshua told the people, “Consecrate yourselves, for tomorrow the LORD will do amazing things among you.” (Joshua 3:5 NIV1984)
Although I've never heard these verses taught in relation to the Rapture, I wondered if there was a hidden meaning for the wise virgins.
Joshua 3 Crossing the Jordan 1 Early in the morning Joshua and all the Israelites set out from Shittim and went to the Jordan, where they camped before crossing over. 2 After three days the officers went throughout the camp, 3 giving orders to the people: “When you see the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, and the priests, who are Levites, carrying it, you are to move out from your positions and follow it. 4 Then you will know which way to go, since you have never been this way before. But keep a distance of about a thousand yards[a] between you and the ark; do not go near it. 5 Joshua told the people, “Consecrate yourselves, for tomorrow the LORD will do amazing things among you.” 6 Joshua said to the priests, “Take up the ark of the covenant and pass on ahead of the people.” So they took it up and went ahead of them. 7 And the LORD said to Joshua, “Today I will begin to exalt you in the eyes of all Israel, so they may know that I am with you as I was with Moses. 8Tell the priests who carry the ark of the covenant: ‘When you reach the edge of the Jordan’s waters, go and stand in the river.’” Joshua 3:1-7 (NIV1984)
Thanks for the encouragement. We need it. I hope you found a job. That's not easy these days. My grandson had to take a part time job. It was the only offer he had. They have a new baby now. Imagine trying to get by on a part-time job.
Waiting is not easy when we are in our eighties, Ed is 87 and can't get out of the rented hospital bed our HMO SCAN sent, and Social Security doesn't mean you're secure. The bills keep increasing, but the income doesn't follow suit. No cost of living increases. I applied for Food Stamps, but was told we make $200. too much. Ed gets the full amount. I get half of his. That $200 rule shuts out a big segment of the older population of this country. If we are still here, and I sincerely hope the Rapture comes before that, I hope they all vote next time.
We sure want to fly away in the Rapture. Psa 90:10 says, "The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away."
We are hoping the First-Trump Rapture will be on the Feast of Trumpets, Sept 29, 2011. I feel sure that the Last-Trump Rapture will be on Trumpets. The 144,000 Israelite virgins also can sing the new song (Rev 14:1-5), so I think they are added to the Bride group of saints that sings the new song in Rev 5:9, probably on Sept 14, 2015.Then all the Bride group would have the same birthstone, September's sapphire that means heaven.
This coming September, there will be 3 comets, usually considered bad omens, in our skies, Elenin, Honda and Levy. When have we ever had 3 at the same time? I think that will be another sign. I read that two of the comets, Elenin and Honda, both of equal distance from Earth, will come very close Sept 19, 2011.
When Saturn, Mercury, Sun, Elenin, Earth and Uranus line up on Sept 25, we could have a great earthquake with a tsunami. Saturn, Mercury, Sun and Elenin will be pulling Earth closer to the Sun. It will be the closest we have been in the last 3600 years. On Sept 26, NASA's Near Earth Object Program (http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/orbits/) shows a Sun, Elenin and Earth line up. It doesn't go out far enough to see if Saturn still lines up, but it is the slowest moving planet, so it probably will still line up.
At http://endtimesforecaster.blogspot.com/2011/02/comet-elenin-and-pole-shift-theory.html, it says, "Comet Elenin was discovered by Leonid Elenin, whose name [Leonid] means, Lion"! And is in Leo (the lion) at Tabernacles, and could create a meteor shower just before the annual Leonid ("lion") meteor shower. Clearly, God is saying that this comet symbolizes the coming of the Lion of Judah! But this is just another token sign -- keep that in mind! It does not mean that Jesus will return at this time!!!" http://www.bible-codes.org/Egypt-bible-Hosni.htm#Notes
As for me, I'm hoping that Jesus will come for his Bride on Trumpets.
Luke 21:25-28 says, "And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; 26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. 27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh." Tsunamis seem like good signs.
I think the December 26, 2004, northern Sumatra, Indonesia earthquake (9.0) and 50 ft. tsunami that killed over 200,000 was a sign. The March 11, 2011 earthquake (8.9) and the 133 ft. tsunami in Japan was a sign too.The whole island of Honshu shifted 8 ft. These tsunamis were unusually disasterous events.They sure got my attention.
We have earthquakes when only 3 heavenly bodies line up. Look at this record for last year, and this isn't the whole list. It is just all I had time for. It is hard for me to type them from a video I have to start, stop and reverse. I'll put the URL at the bottom of the list. You can look at the whole list there.
Earth-Sun-Venus Jan 12, 2010 Haiti 7.0
Earth proximal to: Mars-Sun-Venus Jan 17 Yellowstone swarm 1000s
Mars-Earth-Venus Jan 28, 2010
Mars-Earth-Sun; Moon-Earth-Sun Jan 30, 2010 China 5.1
Mars-Earth-Mercury; Earth-Moon-Sun Feb 14, 2010
Elenin-Earth-Venus Feb 18, 2010 China N Korea 6.9
Elenin-Earth-Jupiter Feb 22, 2010
Elenin-Earth-Sun Feb 25, 2010 China 5.2
Elenin-Earth-Sun Feb 26, 2010 Japan 7.0
Elenin-Earth-Sun; Earth-Sun-Jupiter Feb 27, 2010 Chile 8.8
Elenin-Earth-Sun Feb 27, 2010 Chile 6.9
Elenin-Earth-Sun Feb 27 2010 Argentina 6.3
Elenin-Earth-Mercury Mar 4, 2010 Taiwan 6.3
Elenin-Earth-Mercury Mar 4, 2010 Vanatu 6.5
Elenin-Earth-Mercury Mar 6, 2010 Chile 6.6
Elenin-Earth-Mercury; Earth-Sun-Mercury Mar 8, 2010 Turkey 6.1
Earth-Sun-Mercury; Saturn-Earth-Venus Mar 11, 2010 Chile 6.9
Earth-Sun-Mercury; Saturn-Earth-Venus Mar 11, 2010 Chile 6.7
Earth-Sun-Mercury-Uranus; Mar 16, 2010 Chile 6.7
Saturn-Earth-Sun Mar 20 2010 Papua NG 6.6
Earth-Mercury-Venus; Moon-Earth-Sun Mar 30, 2010 India 6.7
Sun-Mercury-Venus Apr 5, 2010 Mexico 7.2
Earth-Mercury-Venus Apr 11, 2010 Solomon Is 6.8
Earth-Mercury-Venus; Earth-Moon-Sun Apr 13, 2010 China 6.9
Earth-Mercury-Venus Apr 18, 2010 Afghanistan 5.6
Earth-Mercury-Venus Apr 29, 2010 Australia 5.2
Saturn-Earth-Uranus Apr 26, 2010 Taiwan 6.5
Earth-Mercury-Sun Apr 38, 2010 Bering Sea 6.5
Elenin-Earth-Neptune; Earth-Mercury-Sun May 5, 2010 Indonesia 6.6
Elenin-Earth-Neptune; Earth-Mercury-Sun May 6, 2010 Chile 6.2
Elenin-Earth-Neptune; Earth-Mercury-Sun May 9, 2010 Indonesia 7.2
Elenin-Earth-Neptune; Earth-Mercury-Sun May 14, 2010 Algeria 5.2
Saturn-Earth-Jupiter May 24, 2010 Brazil 6.5
Saturn-Earth-Jupiter May 26, 2010 Japan 6.5
Saturn-Earth-Jupiter; Moon-Earth-Sun May 27, 2010 Vanuatu 7.1
Mars-Earth-Neptune May 31, 2010 Andaman, India 6.5
Earth-Jupiter-Uranus; Earth-Moon-Sun Jun 12, 2010 Nicobar, India 7.5
Earth-Jupiter-Uranus Jun 16, 2010 Indonesia 7.0
Earth-Jupiter-Uranus Jun 16, 2010 Indonesia 6.6
Saturn-Earth-Uranus Jul 18, 2010 Alaska 6.6
Saturn-Earth-Uranus Jul 18, 2010 Papua NG 6.9
Saturn-Earth-Uranus Jul 18, 2010 Papua NG 7.3
Saturn-Earth-Uranus Jul 23, 2010 Philippines 7.3
Saturn-Earth-Uranus Jul 23, 2010 Philippines 7.6
Saturn-Earth-Uranus Jul 23, 2010 Philippines 7.4
Saturn-Earth-Uranus Jul 24, 2010 Philippines 6.6
Saturn-Earth-Uranus; Moon-Earth-Sun Jul 29, 2010 Philippines 6.6
Saturn-Earth-Uranus Jul 30, 2010 Iran 5.4
Mars-Earth-Jupiter Aug 4, 2010 Papua NG 6.5
Mars-Earth-Jupiter Aug 4, 2010 Papua NG 7.0
Venus-Earth-Jupiter; Earth-Moon-Sun Aug 10, 2010 Vanuatu 7.3
Venus-Earth-Jupiter Aug 12, 2010 Ecuador 7.1
Venus-Earth-Jupiter Aug 13, 2010 Mariana Is 6.9
Venus-Earth-Jupiter Aug 14, 2010 Mariana Is 6.6
Earth-Venus-Mars; Saturn-Earth-Jupiter Aug 20, 2010 Papua NG 6.4...
(July 27, 2011, "NASA is Calling Elenin 'a cluster comet'" See video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsqV1JCYFAg)
It is strange too that the big earthquake in Chile was on March 11, 2010, and the big one in Japan was on March 11, 2011. Agape
Afterthought: Luke 21:11 says that "GREAT EARTHQUAKES shall be in divers places and famine and pestilences and fearful sights and GREAT SIGNS SHALL THERE BE FROM HEAVEN." Keep watching.
A Post on Five Doves, Re: "Whoa!! ...size of comet Elenin CONFIRMED!!!!!!!"
Dru (5 Aug 2011)
Please check out this video:
Comet Elenin is over 200,000 km in size ...I mean that's HUGE!!
That must be the coma, not the nucleus.
Aug 4, 2011 Yesterday 265 today 512 together 777!
A very interesting fact, between yesterday and today the DOW lost 777 points. Rounding to the whole numbers 265.87 is 265 and 512.76 is 512 which when added is 265 + 512 = 777.
Could this be caused by the Manipulators of the world government as a present to their chosen one Obama on his birthday?
Are they saying that this is similar to the 777 on Rosh Hashannah when the recession started?
My reply to a post on Five Doves site
Re: Kristy McClendon:"Rapture more likely in 2011"
the author said, "Number two the rapture can’t be this year 2009! For one, the day’s in-between the Feast of Trumpets 2009 and the Feast of Yom Kippur 2016, the Day of Atonement is 2,580 days. This is 30 days more than what Daniel says the number of days for the 7year covenant will last and 60 days longer than what Revelation allows. So this year can not be the rapture scripturally. Look for the rapture on the Feast of Trumpets in the month of September and October of each year where there is 86 moon duration like the year 2011 and you will be closer to what Scripture has revealed about the 7 year covenant and rapture lengths.
I enjoyed reading his ideas, and 2011 just may turn out to be the year of the First-Trump Rapture. One mistake he made was about the day of the crucifixion. He said that Jesus was crucified on Thursday the 14th just as the priests were offering up the lambs.
It is true that he was crucified on Thursday. However, it was Nisan 13, not the 14th. The 14th was Passover.
John 19:14 says, "it was the PREPARATION of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!"
The preparation of the Passover was Thursday. Jesus died about 3 PM Thursday. The Passover lambs were killed between the evenings, i.e., between 3 PM and 6 PM on Nisan 13. At 6 PM, Passover, Nisan 14, began. The lambs had to be roasted and eaten by midnight, which was just 6 hours later.
When the Israelites were in Egypt, they had to have the blood on the doorframe and the lamb roasted and eaten before the 6th hour, midnight, or they would have died at midnight.
Mt 12:40 says, "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth." Those were Thursday (night), Friday (day and night), Saturday (day and night), and Sunday (day). The resurrection was Sunday. Agape
My reply to a post on Five Doves
> > Have all the "Seals" already been opened?
No. None of the seals can be opened until the First-Trump Rapture of Rev 4:1 has taken place. The Bride saints out of every nation are singing the new song in Heaven in Rev 5:9. The seals begin to be opened in Rev 6.
> > Do all the Seals, Trumpets & Bowls go in the order they are shown in the bible?
Yes. It seems that the Revelation of Jesus Christ is organized like circle clocks. Imagine putting a rubber band around 7 Coke cans. You will have 6 outer cans around a central 7th can.
Diagram those lids on paper. Label the 6 outer circles seals. Inside the central 7th circle, draw another circle clock. Label the outer circles trumpets.
Inside the central 7th circle, draw another circle clock. Label these circles bowls. Looking at these diagrams shows plainly that the seals come first, and out of the 7th seal come the 7 trumpet judgments. Out of the 7th trumpet come the 7 bowls of wrath. Agape
Incoming e-mail, Re: Rapture Message
...a message that Christians can send out to their family and friends who need to accept Christ as Savior.
"I truly believe that the Rapture (When the Lord shall come and take Christian Believers to Heaven for Eternity) will take place this year: September 29th.
If you have not accepted the Lord Jesus as your Saviour, please pray this prayer:
"Dear Lord I know I have done wrong things. I thank our Heavenly Father for loving us so much that He sent His Son, the Lord Jesus to earth to be punished, suffer and die on the cross for the wrong things I have done. I accept Him as my Saviour and ask Him to come into my heart. What a Joy to know that by believing I shall spend Eternity in Heaven where ALL is Joy and Peace.
In the Lord Jesus' Name I pray. Amen
Thanks for your kind consideration
Thanks. I am looking for the First-Trump Rapture on Sept 29 too. The three comets, Elenin, Honda and Levy seem to be signs. Earthquakes at planetary line ups are also signs. Agape
“The PEOPLE of the RULER WHO WILL COME will destroy the city and the sanctuary.” Daniel 9:26
Those people were the Romans. They burned the Temple and Jerusalem in 70 AD.
Therefore, Obama can't be the Antichrist. The Pope fits though. He is a Roman Catholic with Vatican City as his headquarters.
Incoming e-mail, Re: 63-7-70 Pattern
I wanted to know when the 2nd (Herod’s) Temple was ‘officially’ completed & as I researched my hunch was confirmed in that there were exactly 7 years from that decree to the destruction of the Temple by the Romans: 63 years since AD 1 plus the 7 years to make 70 years total. I believe that his 63-7-70 Year Pattern is being repeated in our lifetime - to be witnessed by our Generation presently. I believe 1948 gives us the start of this ‘Repeating’ of the pattern marking a 7 year interval leading up to 2018 as it did leading up to AD 70. IF this is so, then 2011 is yet to turn out to be a key marker year for this pattern. All I want to bring to your attention is the ‘repeat of the 63-7-70 Year Pattern’...but that it just might have a corresponding pattern or relationship -as with the Destruction of the Temple, to the anticipated rebuilding of the 3rd Temple; possibly & the fulfillment of Daniel’s Last Week. (See chart below).
- A Biblical Generation can be 50, 80 and even 100 years etc. I believe each time frame has its merit and context.
- I am using the 365 day count as the 7 years leading up to the AD 70-Year marker was calculated using 7 365 day counts.
- I am not establishing that 2011 will be the beginning of the ‘Tribulation’ or the Rapture
- The context of the Parable of the Fig Tree was directed to Israel, in my opinion -not necessarily to the Church, the Body of Christ.
I believe that possibly, the “Last Generation” started the Countdown to this ‘repeat of the 63-7-70 Year Pattern’ from 1948 after Israel became a nation. IF so, we are living in the time & place in history Christ foretold us about the Fig Tree Parable (Matthew 24 ) of it being in relation to ‘The Generation’ regarding the issue of the Temple & the Tribulation to come. In the immediacy of the Prophecy, it did come true for that ‘Generation’ -as it did see the destruction of the Temple & the admonition to flee to the hills due to that then ‘Tribulation’ ...but the short-term fulfillment also always casts a long-term shadow of future prophecy projected onto history as a pattern. I suggest only that this ‘repeat of the 63-7-70 Year Pattern’ is a possibility to consider from 1948 given that it is the same amount of years from AD 70 exactly & counting backwards from 2018, by the pattern -you end up at the year 1948. Luis B. Vega
My reply to a post on Five Doves
Re: Luis Vega (2 Aug 2011)
"THE 70-YEAR GENERATION PATTERN -Are We The Last Generation?"
You had such a good idea about the 63 + 7 = 70 happening in the first century and again in this century. It fits beautifully, and I never thought of it. Thanks much.
From the parable of the fig tree (Mt 24:32-34), I think those born in 1967, when Israel grew leaves (Sinai, West Bank, Gaza Strip and Golan Heights) in the Six-Day War, are The Last Generation.
> > A Biblical Generation can be 50, 80 and even 100 years
Psa 90:10 says, "The days of our years are threescore years and ten" (a lifetime).
A generation is the period during which children become adults and have children of their own. Websters Dictionary says that a generation is 33 years. However, according to Mt 1:17, a Biblical generation is 48.33 years (2030 years, Abraham to Christ, divided by 42 generations = 48.33).
June 9, 1967, during the Six-Day War, was Sivan 1, 5727. Adding 48.33 years brings us to Tishri 1, 5776, Sept 14, 2015. I think that day will be the great and terrible Day of the Lord, the Day of God's Wrath.
APPLYING THE 63 + 7 = 70 PATTERN AS AN OUTER LIMIT
1948 + 63 = 2011
2011 + 7 = 2018
The Great Tribulation, probably from Mid-Trib to Trumpets Tishri 1, 5776 has been shortened.
In Mt 24:20-23, Jesus said, "pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: 21 For then shall be GREAT TRIBULATION, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be SHORTENED, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake THOSE DAYS SHALL BE SHORTENED."
The elect in the Great Tribulation are the 144,000 Israelites and a great crowd so numerous that they cannot be counted that will be caught up in the Last-Trump Rapture on the Day of God's Wrath (Rev 7:1-9).
Nisan 1, 5776, April 9, 2016, probably will be the date of the Second Advent and the beginning of the Sacred, Regnal and Jubilee Years. A Jubilee Year has to be preceded by a Sabbatic Year, and 5775 is Sabbatic. To me, that Sabbatic Year seems to lock in the years of the Tribulation. To go to 5782 seems too far fetched, and it doesn't fall within your 63 + 7 = 70 time limit.
It looks like 1917, when the Balfour Declaration was signed giving the Jews the right to return to their land, was a Jubilee Year. 1917 + 49 = 1966, so 1967 was a Jubilee Year. 1966 + 49 = 2015, so Nisan 1, 5776, April 9, 2016 should be the first day of a Jubilee Year. The Jubilee Year during which the Israelites will be returned to their inherited plot of land in Israel, would run from Nisan 1 in 5776 to Nisan 1 in 5777. The number 7 means completion, so that seems reasonable.
That schedule fits a 2011 Rapture too. I'm hoping the First-Trump Rapture will be on the Feast of Trumpets, Sept 29, 2011, when there will be 3 comets in our skies, Elenin, Honda and Levy.
On Sept 25, 2011, Saturn, Mercury, Sun, Elenin, Earth and Uranus will be lined up. Earth will be pulled closer to the Sun than any time in the last 3600 years. On Sept 26, the Sun, Elenin and Earth will line up. Jesus said that earthquakes would increase. The lineup on Sept 25 will probably cause an earthquake, and maybe a tsunami. I think that will be a sign.
Luk 21:25-28 says, "there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; THE SEA AND THE WAVES ROARING; 26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. 27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory (the Sign of the Son of Man will be seen at the time of the Last-Trump Rapture, the Day of God's Wrath). "28 And when these things begin to come to pass (maybe Sept 25), then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh." The First-Trump Rapture might be Sept 29, 2011, the Feast of Trumpets.
That Feast of Trumpets is looking more and more like the time of the First-Trump Rapture. The Last-Trump Rapture probably will be on the Feast of Trumpets, Sept 14, 2015. The 144,000 Israelites will probably be caught up in the Last-Trump Rapture that day. They are called "virgins" and are the only ones caught up in the Last-Trump Rapture that can sing the new song like the saints caught up in the First-Trump Rapture. See Rev 5:9 and Rev 14:1-5. Therefore they seem to be added to the Bride group caught up the first time.
This way, both segments of the Bride group would have the same birthstone, September's sapphire that means heaven.
Jesus, the only God/man, is seated on his throne in Ezekiel 1:26-28. There, the symbol of his throne is the sapphire, which means dear to the planet Saturn, from the Sanskrit Sani, Saturn, and priya, dear.
When I found that in Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, I whispered to myself, "Then it is true." Goosebumps ran all over me. Saturn is Jesus' throne. The ring system is even mentioned.
Eze 1:1,26-29 says, "the heavens were opened, and I saw visions of GOD...26 And above the firmament (expanse of space) that was over their heads (i.e., farther out than the four terrestrial planets) was the likeness of a THRONE, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a MAN (Jesus, both man and God) above upon it. 27 And I saw as the colour of amber (Saturn has amber on it), as the appearance of fire round about within it (i.e., as if it were the 7th lighted lamp in the lampstand), from the appearance of his loins (from the equator) even upward, and from the appearance of his loins (from the equator) even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness round about. 28 As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of THE BRIGHTNESS ROUND ABOUT (i.e, Saturn's rings). This was the appearance of the likeness of the GLORY (kabad, splendor; maybe we could stretch it into halo) of the LORD."
Gen 9:13 says, "I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me (i.e., on the throne on the ringed planet, Saturn) and the earth." Agape
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