Pro and Con 1649

Posted 4-29 -2012

A CONEHEAD GIANT SCULL FOUND IN PARACAS, PERU

A "PEACE AGREEMENT" WAS SIGNED TW0 MONTHS BEFORE IT WAS REPORTED BY CATHOLIC NEWS.COM ON APRIL 29, 2009, PRIOR TO THE BEGINNING OF THE TRIBULATION ON PENTECOST, MAY 29, 2009

Dan 9:27 says, "And he (the prince that shall come) shall confirm (or strengthen) the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week (Mid-Trib) he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations (i.e., probably idols) he shall make it (i.e., the Temple) desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate."

http://ivarfjeld.wordpress.com/2012/03/28/vatican-and-arab-league-sign-agreement/
"The Vatican deal with the Arab League was signed a few weeks before the Pope came on a visit to Jerusalem and took a stroll on the Temple mount. Without an agreement with the Arab League, this walk with the Imams would not have been possible. The Present Pope became the first Pontiff ever to walk on the Temple Mount." Pope Benedict XVI is preparing to install a second head of the world church in Old Jerusalem. The old city is to have the same charter as Vatican City. Will this second head be the False Prophet?

http://ivarfjeld.wordpress.com/category/jerusalem-temple-mount/
"The Popes visit to the Temple Mount on 12th of May 2009, was just A DRY RUN OF THE CEREMONY OF HIS FINAL ACCEPTANCE AS THE "PRINCE OF PEACE". The Dome of the Rock is at present being renovated for the "Grand event" WHEN THE MAN OF LAWLESSNESS SET UP HIS THRONE ON THIS LOCATION. The present Pope is soon 85 years of age, and to old to reign in Jerusalem for three and a half years. But the next Pope"... (emphasis mine)

"I think it is interesting to find this secret "Archbishop"s suggestion on 8th of January 2009. Just months before 29th of April 2009. This is the date the Arab League and the Vatican signed a 'peace agreement'.

"Bishop Cranmer: Let the Pope preside over Jerusalem. Give the Pope Jerusalem, and he can govern it through a neutral administration, ensuring that both the Jews of Israel and the Muslims of Palestine obtain justice."

http://ivarfjeld.wordpress.com/2012/03/29/bishop-cranmer-let-the-pope-preside-over-jerusalem/ "On 12th of May 2009, the Pope walked on the Temple Mount together with the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem.

"To make the peace plan for the UN, EU, the Quartet, the Pope and the Arab League a reality, the Zionists must come on board. Only when the Zionists are willing to surrender, the Pope can "preside" over a new "neutral administration" WITH ITS POWER SEAT ON THE EXACT SPOT WHERE GOD'S TEMPLE ONCE WAS LOCATED.

"It...is only Christian Zionists and Religious Jewish Judaism that holds back the last man of lawlessness from taking the stage in Jerusalem."

MY COMMENT

The Temple was not located over the rock that is now under the Dome of the Rock. It was between the Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa Mosque. The back of it lined up with the Wailing Wall.

THE PYRAMID OF GIZA AND THE TOWER OF BABEL,
THE TRUE AND THE FALSE

By Marilyn Agee, posted 4-28-12

The Tower of Babel was a 7-stepped pyramid, also called a ziggurat, and construction may begin on it again. I think it was Satan's upside down interpretation of the original pyramid, the Pyramid of Giza, which I think was built to indicate the final year of the Angelic Conflict and the date of Christ's return, 5776 (Nisan 1, 5776, April 9, 2016, first day of the Sacred, Regnal and Jubilee years). When the cornerstone is installed, the pyramid will be 5776 inches tall. Thus, Satan knew exactly how long he had to try to win the Angelic Conflict.

"IT SHALL BE FOR A SIGN AND FOR A WITNESS UNTO THE LORD OF HOSTS IN THE LAND OF EGYPT"

Isa_19:19,20 says, "In that day shall there be an altar to the LORD in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar (i.e, the pyramid of Giza) at the border (i.e., the border between upper and lower Egypt) thereof TO THE LORD. 20 AND IT SHALL BE FOR A SIGN AND FOR A WITNESS UNTO THE LORD OF HOSTS in the land of Egypt".

Josephus wrote, "...upon Adam's prediction that the world was to be destroyed at one time by the force of fire, and at another time by the violence and quantity of water, they made two pillars the one of brick, the other of stone: they inscribed their discoveries on them both, that in case the pillar of brick should be destroyed by the flood, the pillar of stone might remain, and exhibit those discoveries to mankind; and also inform them that there was another pillar of brick ERECTED BY THEM. Now this remains in the land of Siriad (Egypt) to this day." (Ant.I.II.3).

Satan sinned and was obviously tried and sentenced to prison. He seems to have appealed the sentence, so he probably has been given until 5776 (Nisan 1, 5776, April 9, 2016, the Second Advent) to try to prove the sentence to prison was not just. I think man may have been created to prove a point to Satan. If man, who was created not being able to see God, could still obey him, the Lord would be just in sentencing Satan and the fallen angels, who could see God, to prison for their sins.

With the cornerstone in place, the Pyramid of Giza will be 5776 inches tall. Jesus will probably return Nisan 1, 5776, April 9, 2016, the first day of the Jubilee Year. Therefore, it looks like the Pyramid of Giza was built by the Lord's instructions given to Enoch. Adam and Seth's families seem to have built it by hiring giants to actually lay the stones. The giants obviously refused to put on the cornerstone at the top called a pyramidion.

"THE STONE WHICH THE BUILDERS DISALLOWED, THE SAME IS MADE THE HEAD OF THE CORNER" (Luke 20:17)

I think the pyramidion represented Christ coming as the King of kings and Lord of lords in the year 5776. It seems obvious that Satan had pyramids built in many places across the world to try to confuse the issue to keep people from figuring this out.

In Mat_21:42, "Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: THIS IS THE LORD'S DOING, and it is marvellous in our eyes?"

Psa_118:22 says,"The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner."
Mar_12:10 says, "And have ye not read this scripture; The stone which the builders rejected is become the head of the corner".
Eph_2:20 says, "And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone".
1Pe_2:6 says, "Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded."
1Pe_2:7 says, "Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner".
Act_4:11 says, "This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner."

The Tower of Babel had different colors for each of its seven stories. Those colors stood for planets. The first story at Babel was black and represented Saturn, whose symbol was said to be lead, probably because it is the slowest moving of all the planets of our Solar System. Therefore, the top of the Pyramid of Giza probably represented Heaven, Saturn, as well as Christ and the year of his return. I think the planets are symbolized by the stones installed one above the other in the top of the King's chamber. To me, they represent Earth, Mars, Rahab (Satan's planet that split apart forming our Asteroid Belt, Jupiter and Saturn (the third heaven).

THE MEANING OF THE CANDLESTICK IN THE TEMPLE

Josephus, a Pharisee priest, indicated that the lampstand, west to east, stood for the Sun, Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn.

1. Sun (no wonder the western lamp was to always be kept burning)
2. Mercury
3. Venus
4. Earrth
5. Mars (our first heaven)
6. Jupiter (second heaven)
7. Saturn (third heaven that Paul was caught up to in II Cor 12:1-4)

PAUL WAS CAUGHT UP TO THE THIRD HEAVEN, SATURN

2Co 12:1-4 says, "It is not expedient for me doubtless to glory. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord. 2 I knew a man in Christ (Paul himself, he didn't want to boast) above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN (Saturn). 3 And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) 4 How that he was caught up into PARADISE, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter."

THE SEVEN STORIES OF THE TOWER OF BABEL, THEIR COLOR AND THE METAL THAT REPRESENTED THEM

Notice how Satan turned the truth on its head. Instead of the Sun on the west, and Saturn on the east, as on the lampstand, Satan put Saturn on the bottom and the Sun on top of the Tower of Babel. He then mixed up the order of the other planets. Saturn, the third Heaven, was equated with the underworld and old man time in Satan's false religion. Saturn was called by the Sumerians the "Great Misfortune." The pagans worshipped the sun god instead of the Son of God. They worshipped the sun god and goddess, initially Nimrod and Semiramis. The Tower of Babel was dedicated to the worship of the "host of heaven."

7th story represented the Sun, color: gold, metal: gold
6th story represented the Moon, color: silver, metal: silver
5th story represented Mars, color: yellow, metal: iron
4th story represented Venus, color: blue, metal: copper
3rd story represented Mercury, color: brick-red, metal: mercury
2nd story represented Jupiter, color: white, metal: tin
1st story represented Saturn, color: black, metal: lead

Satan used gold to symbolize the Sun, because it stands for deity. Rev 3:18 says, "I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see."

I have heard someone say that Nimrod may have been one of the giants. I don't believe that. Gen 10:1 says, "the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood." Gen 10:6 says, "And the sons of Ham; Cush, and Mizraim, and Phut, and Canaan." Gen 10:8 says, "And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth."

Nimrod and Tammuz were in turn worshipped as the sun god. Semiramis and Tammuz were worshipped as the madonna and child.

THE TOWER OF BABEL WAS ALSO CALLED THE TEMPLE OF THE FOUNDATION OF HEAVEN AND EARTH

http://www.whitedragon.org.uk/articles/starlore.htm
"In Babylon they erected the El-Temen-An-Ki , the house of the foundation stone of heaven and earth. This magical monument, known in the Bible as the Tower of Babel, had seven stages, each one dedicated to a planet. Its angles symbolized the four corners of the world, pointing to Akkad, Suburtu, Elam and the western lands. Four, according to old Sumerian traditions, was the number of the heavens, and the square or rectangle was accepted by Babylon as the basis of their system. The seven steps of the tower were painted in different colours which corresponded to the planets. The 'Great Misfortune', Saturn, was black. Saturn, the 'Nightly Sun', was at the base, opposed to the highest degree, the gilded top of the tower where the sun resided. The second storey up was white, the colour of shining Jupiter; the third, brick-red, the colour of Mercury. Then followed blue for Venus, yellow for Mars, gray or silver for the moon....

"In the broad plains, on terraces of temples and towers, the priests scanned the night sky, pondering over the riddle of the universe - the cause of all being, of life and death. They offered their prayers to the spirit of Ea, the Earth, and to the spirit of Anu, the Sky. By conjuration, by the burning of incense, by shouts and by whispers, by gesture and by song, the priests sought to attract the attention of the fickle gods who had to be forever reminded of the misfortunes of mortals. "Remember," the incantations were always reiterating: "Remember him who makes sacrifices - may forgiveness and peace flow for him like molten brass: May this man's days be vivified by the sun! - Spirit of the Earth, remember! Spirit of the Sky, remember!" And in like vein: "Spirit of Nindar, mighty warrior of Mulge, remember; Spirit of Paku, sublime intelligence of Mulge, remember; Spirit of En-Zuma, son of Mulge, remember; Spirit of Tishku, Lady of the Hosts, remember; Spirit of Udu, King of Justice, remember!" Mulge is the master of hell; Nindar is Saturn; Paku is Mercury; En-Zuma is the moon; Tishku is Venus; Udu is the sun"...

"Decayed ziggurats still survive, and the temple of Ishtar-Venus has been reconstructed at the site of the capital of Assyria."

Therefore, the "spirit of Ninday, mighty warriour of Mulge" meant that the spirit of Saturn was the mighty warrior of Hell. Satan leaves his tracks on the whole project, start to finish.

Satan has pyramids built in various places around the world to try to obscure the fact that the year 5776 will end his try at winning the Angelic Conflict. The Lord Jesus will reign triumphantly. It was obviously a set time when Jesus would reign and Satan and his fallen angels would be put in prison.

MOVING THE HEADQUARTERS OF THE WORLD CHURCH TO BABYLON IN THE LAND OF SHINAR, WHERE THE TOWER OF BABEL WAS BUILT

Zec 5:1-11 says, "Then I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a flying roll (i.e., a flying rolling asteroid). 2 And he said unto me, What seest thou? And I answered, I see a flying roll; the length thereof is twenty cubits, and the breadth thereof ten cubits. 3 Then said he unto me, This is the curse (i.e., an asteroid) that goeth forth (i.e., orbits) over the face of the whole earth: for every one that stealeth shall be cut off as on this side according to it; and every one that sweareth shall be cut off as on that side according to it. 4 I will bring it forth, saith the LORD of hosts, and it (Wormwood, Rev 8:11) shall enter into the house of the thief, and into the house of him (the False Prophet) that sweareth falsely by my name: and it shall remain in the midst of his house, and shall consume it with the timber thereof and the stones thereof. 5 Then the angel that talked with me went forth, and said unto me, Lift up now thine eyes, and see what is this that goeth forth. 6 And I said, What is it? And he said, This is an ephah (i.e., a measure for grain, representing a church) that goeth forth (i.e., to move to Babylon). He said moreover, This is their resemblance through all the earth. 7 And, behold, there was lifted up a talent of lead: and this is a woman (i.e., a religious group) that sitteth in the midst of the ephah. 8 And he said, This is wickedness. And he cast it into the midst of the ephah; and he cast the weight of lead upon the mouth thereof. 9 Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came out two women (i.e., two religious groups) and the wind was in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork: and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heaven. 10 Then said I to the angel that talked with me, Whither do these bear the ephah? 11 And he said unto me, To build it an house in the land of Shinar: and it shall be established, and set there upon HER OWN BASE.

The Tower of Babel was built in the land of Shinar, Babylon, and it may be rebuilt in the land of Shinar.

Gen 11:1-9 says, "And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech. 2 And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there. 3 And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them throughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter. 4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth. 5 And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded. 6 And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. 7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech. 8 So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city. 9 Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth."

Since "may reach" is not in the original, it seems that they were building the tall tower to worship the host of heaven.

WHAT WILL BE THE END OF BABYLON THIS TIME?

It seems that Satan was tested before man was created. Isa 51:9 says, "Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the LORD (Jesus Christ, Isa 53:1); awake, AS IN THE ANCIENT DAYS, in the generations of old. Art thou not it that hath cut (lit., split) Rahab (Satan's original planet), and wounded the dragon?" (Satan).

Rev 18:20,21 says,"Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her. 21 And a mighty angel took up a stone (i.e., the asteroid Wormwood, Satan's home) like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great CITY Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all."

Isa 22:16-19 says, "What hast thou here? (Babylon) and whom hast thou here, (the Satan-possessed False Prophet) that thou hast hewed thee out a sepulchre here, as he (Satan) that heweth him out a sepulchre on high, and that graveth an habitation for himself in a rock? (i.e., the asteroid Wormwood from Rahab, Satan's planet that split apart, forming our Asteroid Belt) 17 Behold, the LORD will carry thee away with a mighty captivity, and will surely cover thee. 18 He will surely violently turn and TOSS THEE LIKE A BALL into a large country: there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord's house. 19 And I will drive thee from thy station, and from thy state shall he pull thee down."

Rev 8:10,.11 says, "And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; 11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood (meaning bitter); and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter."

Gen 3:24 says,"So he (i.e., the Lord) drove out the man; and he placed at the east (i.e., rising in the eastern sky) of the garden of Eden (on Earth) Cherubims (i.e., planets, the 1st heaven, Mars, the 2nd heaven, Jupiter and the 3rd heaven Saturn), and a flaming sword (i.e., the asteroid Wormwood) which turned every way (rotated and orbited), to keep the way of (or to) the tree of life" (which is in the 3rd heaven).

MY REPLY TO A POST ON FIVE DOVES

Thank you for your kind words.

> > I hope you realize how much I value your knowledge of scripture and insight, which is why I dedicated my last posting to you: http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2012/marilyna425-2.htm . I must let you know though, I am 100% convicted that BHO is that man of sin, the son of perdition, and not just a bad president, and not only because of what scripture has to say on the matter, but also, what He has/is revealing to me in my spirit, and to others.
> > I think it wise to pay attention and strongly consider Kevin Heckle's astronomical discovery:
http://www.fivedoves.com/ac/kevinh1212.htm
http://www.fivedoves.com/ac/kevinh1214.htm
In Christ, Greg
> > P.S. The Lord revealed to me what will be the strong delusion He sends upon them that they should believe a lie, and it's beyond U.F.O.'s (not that that will not be part of it), but because of preconceived ideas, most when told them wouldn't be able to receive it, therefore it must come by revelation through the Holy Spirit. I mentioned a little of it to you in my last posting but you never commented on it, so I felt it was best to leave it alone. I appreciate you!!!

Let's go into this matter of the Antichrist further. Here is a section of what Kevin Heckle wrote that he thinks points to BHO as the Antichrist:

> > The line from Draco's mouth, through Serpens' mouth touching the tip of Hydra's tail, crosses the moon's orbit EXACTLY where the NEW MOON was (14h 58min 25 sec RA and -22* 7.7' declination) on the same date and time the sun had fully 'clothed' Virgo!!!! I checked to see if the same alignment occurred frequently. I manually checked from 1988 through 2028 and the only occurrence of this alignment intersecting with the Draco-Serpens-Hydra line was the date and time: 10/30/2008 00:00:00 UTC which is October 29, 2008 at 8:00 PM EST!!!! Make your own conclusions as to the timing of BHO's 'covenant with many'. I believe the alignment is a rare event. There are a few occasions where moon is in the general vicinity during that time-frame of 1988-2028. However, I don't believe there is an occurrence during that time in which the moon is both below the sun's ecliptic (thus below her left foot) AND a right ascension greater than 14 hours 43 minutes of Right Ascension, which is the RA of the star Mu Virginis, her right foot. To fulfill the Biblical description 'moon below her feet' the moon would also have to be below the sun's Ecliptic as Virgo is parallel with this line and the sun passing almost directly over her left heel (star).
> > Consider this 'coincidence': a line passing from Draco's mouth, through Serpens' mouth (Satan cast down) to the tip of Hydra’s tail (the beast rising from the sea) intersects with a new moon at EXACTLY 8:00 PM October 29th, 2008 while Barack Obama is making his promises to the world; from the other end of Draco, a line beginning at the tip of his tail, passing through the feet of the bear, past the mouth of the lion through the head of Hydra (beast rising from the sea) crosses the sun's Ecliptic at 9 hours RA 17* declination, which is EXACTLY the moment of Barack Obama's claim of birth in Hawaii, August 4, 1961 at 7:24 PM. Draco's head is connected to Hydra's tail and Hydra's head is connected Draco's tail through EXACTLY two of the most significant dates in Barack Hussein Obama's life!!!!! His days are written in the star's timing EXACTLY as the Bible describes it, intertwined with Satan's representations of the dragon (Draco), the serpent (Serpens) and the beast rising from the sea (Hydra). In Christ, Kevin Heckle"

That doesn't convince me that BHO is the Antichrist. Why? The main reason is that he is not a man of the cloth, a religious leader.

When the first seal is broken, Rev 6:2 says, "And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he (i.e, the Antichrist) that sat on him had a bow (toxon, plain fabric, or a cloth bow; not a bow to shoot arrows with); and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer."

Why is the Antichrist holding a piece of cloth? This picture of Cepheus (the constellation overhead in the north representing Christ as the King of kings) will show you why. Do you see the piece of cloth he is holding up? That shows that he is a religious leader, a man of the cloth. Some pictures show him wearing a lamb's wool garment and holding up a lamb's wool cloth.


The Antichrist is also a man of the cloth, a religious leader. BHO is not a man of the cloth. Let's go back and read about the sign in Rev 12. What does it represent? the birth of the Antichrist? NO. It represents the birth of Christ.

Rev 12:1-5 says, "And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman (i.e., Virgo in the Gospel in the Stars) clothed with the sun (i.e., sunlit, not with the Sun under her feet), and THE MOON UNDER HER FEET, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: 2 And she being with child (i.e., Jesus) cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. 3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. 4 And his tail drew the THIRD PART of the stars of heaven (i.e., the fallen angels), and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. 5 And she brought forth a man child (Jesus), who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up (i.e., on Ascension Day, May 18, 30 AD) unto God, and to his throne."

His throne is the sapphire throne of the God/man symbolized in Eze 1:1,26-28. Sapphire means dear to the planet Saturn, from the Sanskrit Sani, Saturn, and priya, dear. As the September birthstone of Jesus, it means heaven. The throne of the only God/man is on Saturn, with amber on it and with brightness all around. It has a ring system that looks like a rainbow. Heaven actually has a halo to show us where it is located.

I think this sign in Rev 12 is to enable us to figure out when Jesus was born, not to point us to the Antichrist. This sign appears in the sky about every 4 or 5 years on Tishri 1, the Feast of Trumpets. The Sun can be above Virgo's head, just so its light clothes her. The new crescent Moon must be under Virgo's feet. I had occasion to use this in determining when I thought Jesus was born. After much study, I was convinced that he was born on the Feast of Trumpets, so I went to Your Sky to see which BC year that sign would be in the sky on Tishri 1. It was there on Sept 4, 5 BC. That fit with Herod's death between the eclipse of March 13 and the Passover in 4 BC.

Mat_7:15 says, "Beware of false prophets (plural, i.e., the two beasts of Rev 13, the Antichrist and False Prophet), which come to you in sheep's clothing (i.e., as lambs), but inwardly they are ravening wolves." Who comes to us in sheep's clothing? the Popes. As a badge of their high office, they wear a lamb's wool pallium.

My Web site is ok now, thanks to a friend in another state. The Home Page and Pro and Cons 1647 and 1648 are posted. May God bless this man richly.... Agape

NETANYAHU: 'I COULD DELIVER A PEACE AGREEMENT'

http://outfront.blogs.cnn.com/2012/04/24/netanyahu-i-could-deliver-a-peace-agreement/

April 24th, 2012 - In an exclusive interview with CNN's Erin Burnett, Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu says he could bring bring a peace agreement that would work for Israel and Palestine. "I think I could deliver a peace agreement," Netanyahu said. "I could get the Israeli people to follow me if I believe I have a serious partner on the other side willing to make the necessary compromises on the Palestinian side."

What would that deal look like? The prime minister said he respects the Palestinian desire for a contiguous state. "I don't want to govern the Palestinians. I don't want them as subjects of Israel or citizens of Israel. I want them to have their own independent state. But a demilitarized state."

A POST ON FIVE DOVES, Re: LINK Rapture Bible Prophecy Forum Hebrew 5772 Gregorian 2012

Please consider an alternate view of the Gog and Magog of the O.T. (and post millennium), That the invasion has already happened other than The last few verses of Ezekiel 38 which occur after the millennial Kingdom. http://www.kneelingmedia.org/AwakeBride/12Gog.pdf

And the Youtube version, http://youtu.be/pYw6sLvnWOw

Gog was actually a Hebrew in Israel. (a person, then a place, then a person).

Eve Engelbrite said: "It was the Assyrians who led away Israelites captives with "hooks in their jaws". See http://www.bible-history.com/sketches/ancient/assyrian-king-lips-eyes.html Ezekiel 38 was already fulfilled, you can read about it in my chapter on Gog in "Awake Bride" available for free at
http://www.kneelingmedia.org/AwakeBride/
But I believe Elohim will continue to pour out His just judgments upon the world in hopes some will repent and obey Him.
If you want to read about how America's slights to Israel have brought about physical judgments upon our land, read John McTernan's book available at http://philologos.org/guide/books/mcternan.john.1.htm
[end quote] best regards,Tom Tanner

MY REPLY

> > Please consider an alternate view of the Gog and Magog of the O.T. (and post millennium),
> > That the invasion has already happened other than The last few verses of Ezekiel 38 which occur after the millennial Kingdom.

As I understand Eze 38:18-23, it has to take place on ONE DAY, the great and terrible Day of the Lord, the Day of God's Wrath, the day of Jacob's Trouble, the one day in all of Time that people look up in the sky and see Jesus sitting on his throne on the FIRST DAY of his millennial kingdom. That is the Sign of the Son of Man. Every wall in the world falls on that day. All cities are in shambles from the worldwide earthquake. The globe is knocked uipside down. It will be Jesus' Long Day, of which Joshua's Long Day was a type. Here are some of the scriptures.

Eze 38:18 says,"And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel (i.e., the Gog and Magog War), saith the Lord GOD, that MY FURY shall come up in my face.
Eze 38:19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of MY WRATH have I spoken, Surely in that day (Day of God's Wrath) there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel (i.e., when an asteroid, a piece of Satan's planet that split apart, impacts the NE Mediterranean Sea);
Eze 38:20 So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence (min paniym, over face, i.e., the Sign of the Son of Man seen in the sky, not the Second Advent which is still 7 months future, in a Leap Year, Nisan 1, 5776, April 9, 2016, Dan 12:11), and the mountains (i.e., the other asteroid is Satan's home, Wormwood, Rev 8:8-11, that will obliterate Babylon in the land of Shinar) shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall (i.e., worldwide) shall fall to the ground.
Eze 38:21 And I will call for a SWORD against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord GOD: every man's sword shall be against his brother."

Rev 16:17 says, "And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
Rev 16:18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.
Rev 16:19 And the great city (Jerusalem) was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.
Rev 16:20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.
Rev 16:21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great."

The SWORD OF THE LORD is the asteroid Wormwood that Satan lives on placed in the sky at the east of Eden to guard against illegal access to Heaven's Tree of Life. Gen 3:24 says, "So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims (Mercury, Venus, Mars) and a FLAMING SWORD (the asteroid Wormwood, Satan's home) which turned every way (rotated and orbited), to keep the way of (or to) the tree of life" (which is in Paradise, Heaven). It took me over 7 years to finally figure this out with the Lord's help.

Rev_2:7 says,"He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

Jer_12:12 says,"The spoilers are come upon all high places through the wilderness: for the SWORD OF THE LORD shall devour from the one end of the land even to the other end of the land: no flesh shall have peace."

Continuing, Eze 38:22 says,"And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain (an overflowing shower, i.e., a tsunami), and great hailstones (eben elgabiysh, i.e., hail of rocks), fire, and brimstone. Eze 38:23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the EYES of many nations (i.e., they will see the Sign of the Son of Man in the sky), and they shall know that I am the LORD."

Mat_24:30 says,"And then shall appear the SIGN OF THE SON OF MAN in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory."

However, Jesus doesn't set his feet on Earth that great and terrible DAY OF GOD'S WRATH. He comes on the following Nisan 1, 5776, April 9, 2016, the first day of the Sacred, Regnal and Jubilee years. Sunday, April 9, 30 AD was when Jesus came back on Resurrection Day, because he will come back at the Second Advent on Saturday, April 9, 2016. Jesus said he was Lord of the Sabbath, so that ties in to his Second Advent being on Saturday. Agape

A POST ON FIVE DOVES, Re: "Greg (24 Apr 2012) "TO MARILYN AGEE"

God bless you.

I contacted a pastor who has an online endtimes website. I go to it every now and then. I emailed him suggesting to consider BHO as that man of sin, the son of perdition, and that much of the U.S. is everywhere in scripture during the endtimes, referencing Job 11: 6 (law of double reference) Here are some of his comments:

"Keep in mind the kingdom of the Antichrist will be one that was once here and will return again, so this rules out America...."

"Some people are trying their best to try and place the US as this last power but it is very clear the US will have no part as a world empire as they were not part of the old Roman Empire."

What do you make of this? In Christ

MY REPLY

God bless you too.

I don't think BHO is the Antichrist. He is just the worst President the United States has ever had, and the first Muslim President we have ever had. He may want to make this a Muslim nation. I think we entered the Tribulation on Pentecost, May 29, 2009. That was after BHO was inaugurated Jan 20, 2009. He started signing Executive Orders right away. Still, the Lord is in control. He puts up kings and takes down kings. He allowed him to be put in office, probably because the Tribulation was about to begin. I think he is our Tribulation President.

In all my years of studying the Bible since 1960, the only verse that I have ever found that mentions this country is in there twice.

2Sa_7:23 says, "And what one (echad, united) nation (goy, Gentile foreign nation) in the earth (i.e., the United States) is like thy people, even like Israel, whom God went to redeem for a people to himself, and to make him a name, and to do for you great things and terrible, for thy land, before thy people, which thou redeemedst to thee from Egypt, from the nations and their gods"

1Ch_17:21 echoes it, saying,"And what one (echad, united) nation (goy, Gentile foreign nation)in the earth is like thy people Israel, whom God went to redeem to be his own people, to make thee a name of greatness and terribleness, by driving out nations from before thy people, whom thou hast redeemed out of Egypt?"

In Canaan, God drove out the giants with their worship of Dagon, the half man half fish god, and gave that land to Israel. In the United States, God gave the land to Christians.

Let's read Rev 13 together. I think it tells us who the Antichrist is. I'll try to explain as we go along. The False Prophet is to be installed in Old Jerusalem as the second head of a world church. His area is to be given the same charter that Vatican City has. Some think he will be called Peter the Roman, the last Pope. He is to be a second head of the Catholic Church.

Rev 13:1 "And I stood upon the sand of the sea (nations and people, Rev 17:15), and saw a beast (i.e., the Great Red Dragon) rise up out of the sea, having seven heads (i.e., 5 are fallen, kings of Babel, Babylon II, Media-Persia, Greece, Holy Roman Empire, one is, the Ecclesiastical Roman Empire, and one is to come, Babylon III) and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns (i.e., they get their kingdoms after the First-Trump Rapture, Rev 17:12-14), and upon his heads (plural, i.e., on all 7) THE NAME OF BLASPHEMY (Pontifex Maximus, the 1st was Nimrod; the last will be the False Prophet).
Rev 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard (Greece, Dan 7:6) , and his feet were as the feet of a bear (Media-Persia), and his mouth as the mouth of a lion (Babylon II): and the dragon (Satan) gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
Rev 13:3 And I saw one of his heads (the 6th, the Pontifex Maximus, the Pope) as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
Rev 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon (Satan) which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months (i.e., first half of the Tribulation, 1260 days, probably from Pentecost, May 29, 2009 to Nov 8/9, 2012).
Rev 13:6 And he (i.e., one that didn't go in the Rapture) opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven (after the First-Trump Rapture, which probably will take place on Ascension Day, May 17, 2012).
Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints (i.e., including the 144,000 Israelites and the foolish virgins), and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are NOT written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Rev 13:9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.
Rev 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast (i.e., Satan) coming up out of the earth (i.e., Mid-Trib, Rev 12:9-13, probably Nov 8/9, 2012); and he had two horns (i.e., two comings to power, in two sons of perdition, Judas Iscariot and the False Prophet) like a lamb (Christ has two comings), and he spake as a dragon (i.e., Satan, he will be Satan-possessed).
Rev 13:12 And he (i.e., the False Prophet) exerciseth all the power of the first beast (i.e, the Pontifex Maximus, the Pope) before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast (the Antichrist), whose deadly wound was healed.
Rev 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
Rev 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should MAKE AN IMAGE (i.e., an idol) to the beast (i.e., the Pontifex Maximus), which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
Rev 13:15 And he (i.e., the Satan-indwelt False Prophet) had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed (as Nebuchadnezzar did).
Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark (i.e., the Mark of the Beast) in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."

No one can be saved that takes the Mark of the Beast. I think that decision is the trial that is to come upon the whole world.

Rev 3:10 says, "Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth."

The First-Trump Rapture precedes the reign of the False Prophet. The Last-Trump Rapture will be when the False Prophet will be deposed on the Day of God's Wrath.

Dan 12:1 "And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people (i.e., the 144,000) shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
Dan 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
Dan 12:3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever."

THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE IS IN REV 17:14

Rev 17:12-14 says,"And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
Rev 17:13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
Rev 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that ARE WITH HIM are called, and chosen, and faithful." Agape

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