Pro and Con 1650

Posted 5-5-2012

PYRAMID SHAPED ENTRANCE OF THE PYRAMID OF GIZA

THE SCHEDULE OF ENDTIME EVENTS AS I SEE THEM

By Marilyn Agee, posted 5-2-12

THE SCOPE OF THE TRIBULATION

According to Dan. 8:13,14, the shortened Tribulation runs 2300 days (1260 in the first half and 1040 in the shortened last half; Mt 24:21,22) I think it starteed on Pentecost, Sivan 6, 5769, May 29, 2009, and will end on the Day of God's Wrath, the great and terrible Day of the Lord and the time of Jacob's trouble, the Feast of Trumpets, Sept 14, 2015.

Dan 8:13,14 says, "Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice (i.e., started in the first half of the Tribulation), and the transgression of desolation (Mid-Trib), to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? (i.e., during the shortened Great Tribulation) 14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed."

I expect the Israeli survivors to turn to the Lord and keep the Day of Atonement. The coming Jubilee Year should be announced that day. It should start on Nisan 1, 5776, April 9, 2016, the day of the Second Advent.

MID TRIB, NOV. 8/9, 2012

The reason there are two days listed is because the 2300 days are counted by inclusive reckoning, since it is a block of time.

THE SECOND ADVENT

It should be 7 months (Dan 12:11) after the Day of God's Wrath, on the first day of the Jubilee Year, Nisan 1, 5776, April 9, 2016, Anniversary of the Resurrection on Firstfruits, April 9, 30 AD. I think Jesus came back on April 9 in 30 AD because he would come back again on April 9 in 2016. For there to be 7 months between Tishri 1 and Nisan 1, as in Dan. 12:11, the year 5776 has to be a Leap Year with the 13th month, and it is. To me, this locks in the end date.

A JUBILEE YEAR MUST BE PRECEDED BY A SABBATIC YEAR

The year 5775 is a Sabbatic Year. It anchors the year of the Second Advent, 5776. Something else anchors that year. Gen. Allenby took Jerusalem and the Balfour Declaration giving the Jews the right to return to their land was signed in 1917. The Jubilee cycle is a 49-year cycle. The 50th year is both the Jubilee Year and year 1 of the next cycle. Otherwise, the Sabbatic Years and Jubilee Years would get out of sync. 1917 + 49 = 1966, so 1967 (year of the Six-Day War) was a Jubilee Year. 1966 + 49 = 2015, so 2016 is the Jubilee Year. It fits perfectly.

Another thing fits perfectly. The fig tree parable in Mt 24:32-34 says, "Now learn a parable of the fig tree (Israel); When his branch (klados, scion broken off for grafting) is yet tender (apalos, young), and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it (the Kingdom of God, Luke 21:31) is near, even at the doors. 34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled."

Mt 1:17 shows us that a generation is 48.33 years. 1967 + 48.33 years = 2015.33 years. That fits the Feast of Trumpets in 2015.

THE SIGN THAT POINTED TO THE YEAR IN WHICH THE TRIBULATION WOULD BEGIN

When the year 5769 began, there was a sign that got the attention of the whole world. The Dow dropped 777.68 points by 3 PM on the Eve of Trumpets, Sept 29, 2008, the day of the first vote in the US Congress to save the banks. That was the single biggest drop in the history of the market. Three hours later, at 6 PM, the Hebrew year 5769 began. I think that was the year in which the Tribulation started on the following Pentecost, May 29, 2009.

Wall Street Journal News: March 25, 2009 - Israeli PM-Designate Benjamin Netanyahu said, "I'll continue Peace Talks".

Haaretz News: April 12, 2009 - Pope Calls for Israeli-Palestinian Peace. He looks for "A Future of Overall Security and Peaceful Co-Existence." Next: POPE'S TRIP TO HOLY LAND IN MAY.

The Pope wants control of the Temple Mount.

A PEACE AGREEMENT WAS SIGNED APRIL 27, 2008



Daniel 9:27 says, "And he (the Roman prince that shall come) shall confirm (or strengthen) the covenant with many for one week (a week of years): and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate."

Of Mid-Trib, Mat 24:15,16 says, "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains". Mid Trib is coming up Nov 8/9, 2012.

Tom Tanner told me that an angel indicated that the dead in Christ would get their resurrection bodies on Firstfruits. A man asked him "On Easter?" The angel replied, "Yes, on Firstfruits as promised." I did a double take, "As promised. Where? Oh, Jesus played it out."

Job 11:5,6 says, "But oh that God would speak, and open his lips against thee; 6 And that he would shew thee the secrets of wisdom, that they are double (or duplicate) to that which is!"

The "peace agreement" between the Pope and the Muslims was signed April 27, 2009, Iyar 3, 5769, before the Tribulation started on Pentecost, May 29, 2009.



The Pope and head of the Arab League Arm Moussa agreed in 2009 to work together for "peace".
http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/05/12/us-pope-mideast-muslims-factbox-sb-idUSTRE54B1W920090512?sp=true

The Catholic Church announced the Peace Agreement on Apr 29, 2009, exactly one month before I think the Tribulation started. http://www.heisnear.com/NEWSMideastPeace.html

May 14, 2009 - Pope Urges Christians, Muslim Palestinians to Coexist
http://www.voanews.com/english/news/a-13-2009-05-14-voa22-68687517.html

Times OnLine News: May 8,2009 - Pope Benedict says Catholic Church can Help Bring Peace to Mideast.

Haaretz News: May 11,2009 - Pope begins his tour of Mideast - ISRAEL.

May 11, 2009 - Benedict XVI greeted in Israel w/ red carpet by Israeli Pres. Shimon Peres.

Israel's President Peres to Benedict: "This could be the Year We Attain Peace".

Vatican-Israel Relations, May 12, 2009 - Vatican Seeks Control of Holy Land Sites in Israel.

Vatican Radio News: Jan 27, 2012 "Substantial Progress" in Vatican - Israel talks.

(Vatican) Benedict XVI: Demands (again) control of Jerusalem's Temple Mount and Holy Sites "NO MID-EAST PEACE" UNTIL ISRAEL GIVES THEM UP, VATICAN TELLS ISRAEL: Catholic Culture News: Jan 27, 2012

NEXT MEETING IN ROME, TOWARDS CONCLUSION OF AGREEMENT: JUNE 11, 2012

Jan 28, 2012 - Israel and the Vatican continue negotiations, next meeting on 11 June 2012 in Rome.

Israel: VATICAN & ISRAEL Negotiations progress toward long-overdue Diplomatic Accord Vatican Radio News: Jan 27, 2012.

Worthy News: Jan 29, 2012 "Substantial Progress" in Vatican - Israel talks.

Zenit News: Jan 31, 2012 Pope's officials Meet with Palestinian & Israel Representatives in Mideast Diplomatic Efforts.

SCENE IN HEAVEN ON TRUMPETS, THE DAY OF GOD'S WRATH

Joel 2:15-18 says,"Blow the trumpet in Zion, sanctify a fast, call a solemn assembly: 16 Gather the people (i.e, the Last-Trump Rapture of the Tribulation saints), sanctify the congregation, assemble the elders, gather the children, and those that suck the breasts: let the bridegroom (Christ) go forth of his chamber, and the bride (the Bride of Christ) out of her closet (i.e., she was caught up in the First-Trump Rapture). 17 Let the priests, the ministers of the LORD, weep between the porch and the altar, and let them say, Spare thy people, O LORD, and give not thine heritage to reproach, that the heathen should rule over them: wherefore should they say among the people, Where is their God? 18 Then will the LORD be jealous for his land, and pity his people."

MY COMMENT TO RON REESE'S EMAIL (omitted)

> > I have always felt that it could be the Battle of Armageddon, rather than the Battle of Gog and Magog. Marilyn Agee, and other Prophetic scholars, believe these two Battles are one and the same.

I don't think the battle of Gog and Magog and Armageddon are one and the same battle. I don't know where you got that idea. I have never lumped them together. I think the battle of Gog and Magog will take place on the Day of God's Wrath, the Feast of Trumpets, Sept 14, 2015. Armageddon can't take place until Christ and his army are on Earth. Therefore, it takes place on the day of the Second Advent, Nisan 1. 5776, April 9, 2016, the first day of the Jubilee Year. Jesus came back on April 9, 30 AD to show us that he would come back again on April 9.

> > The Battle of Armageddon HAS to be part of the Great Tribulation. We cannot just attempt to add these extra 75 days onto the end of the Great Tribulation.

I think the Tribulation will end on Trumpets, the Day of God's Wrath, Sept 14, 2015. That is the day Jesus will be given his kingdom. Like Solomon, he will purge his kingdom at the outset. Daniel 12:11 shows us that the last year is a Leap Year with an extra month. The year 5776 is a leap year. I think there will be seven months between the Day of God's Wrath on Trumpets, Sept 14, 2015, and the Day of the Second Advent on the first day of the Jubilee Year, Nisan 1, 5776, April 9, 2016.

> > The Battle of Armageddon cannot be separate from the Great Tribulation. It has to be the concluding event of the Great Tribulation. This makes Kislev 24, Hanukkah Eve, Dec. 6--7, 2015, the concluding date of the Great Tribulation!!!!!!! HAGGAI 2 GIVES US THE DATE!!!!!!! IT IS THE VERY SAME DATE THAT CONCLUDES THE FINAL 1335 DAYS in our 2008--2015 timeline!!!!!!! IT IS THE VERY SAME DATE THAT CONCLUDES THE 120-YEAR NOAHIC TIMELINE!!!!!!! IT IS THE VERY SAME DAY OF THE YEAR THAT THE JEWS CELEBRATE THE REBUILDING OF THEIR TEMPLE EVERY YEAR!!!!!!! ...

Haggai 2:18,19 tells us that the Conception of Jesus was on Kislev 24. It says, "Consider now from this day and upward, from the four and twentieth day of the ninth month, even from the day that the foundation of the LORD'S temple was laid, consider it. 19 Is the seed yet in the barn? yea, as yet the vine, and the fig tree, and the pomegranate, and the olive tree, hath not brought forth: from this day will I bless you."

Jesus is the foundation. 1Co_3:11 says, "For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ."

Jesus is the seed. Gen 3:15 says, "I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it (her seed, Jesus Christ) shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel."

"Is the seed yet in the barn?" is a saying meaning is she pregnant, and it says, "YEA." That means that yes, she is pregnant. Jesus was conceived on Kislev 24 and born on Tishri 1.

> > Now, for the real reason that I believe the Great Tribulation ends on Hanukkah of 2015, rather than Atonement, of 2015. IT IS ALL ABOUT HAGGAI 2. Please read that chapter. It is all about Kislev 24. I now believe this chapter is referring to the day of the year of the Battle of Armageddon. It may also be the Battle of Gog and Magog, as Grant Jeffrey believes. They may be one, and the same, as Marilyn Agee, and others believe.

I don't think KIslev 24 has anything to do with Armageddon or the Battle of Gog and Magog.

> > We have now entered the two-month period of May and June of 2012, when we should be EXPECTING THE RAPTURE ANY DAY NOW!

I think the Rapture will take place on Ascension Day, May 17, 2012, less than 2 weeks from now. We are the Body of Christ, and the Body of Christ ascended on Ascension Day, Omer 40, to show us when we would ascend.

Job 11:5,6 says, "But oh that God (i.e., Jesus) would speak... 6 And that he would shew thee the secrets of wisdom, that they are double to that which is!"

He was resurrected on Sunday, Easter/Firstfruits and ascended on Thursday, Ascension Day. This year, Easter and Firstfruits were on the same day. They won’t be in 2013 and 2014. To me, that seems to limit the Rapture to this year.

Omer 1 is on Resurrection Day. I believe that the dead in Christ, including my husband, were given their resurrection bodies on Easter/Firstfruits/Resurrection Day, April 8, 2012.

Ed, 87 years old, died last Dec 27. He hadn't walked since we both had pneumonia mid-March, 2010. Being about 4.5 years younger, I was able to get back on my feet. He wasn't. His age was against him, plus he caught 3 other infections at the hospital. Because of overcrowding, I was sent to a different hospital and didn't pick up anything else.

Ed visited me last April 2nd, while still in his celestial body. I was lounging on the bed propped up on pillows and a bolster as if watching TV. I sit in my chair in front of the computer until I can't sit there one more minute. Then I go take a break and lie on the bed for awhile. This time, I hadn't turned on the TV.

Ed, grinning from ear to ear, walked in the bedroom door briskly and came up between the dresser and bed. He must have been told that he couldn't touch me, for when I said that I wanted to hug him, he still stood there. I told him I thought I would be with him on May 17, Ascension Day. He did not deny it.

I asked, "How old are you, 30 or 33?" He said "33," and he looked 33, not 87.
I asked, "Can we be together forever? He said, "Yes."

What a relief. Thank you, Lord. This was my big concern, because Jesus said that in Heaven, they neither marry nor are given in marriage, that they are as the angels in Heaven. We were married on Earth and became "one flesh," so I thought we could be together forever, but wasn't sure. Not knowing for sure was disturbing me. I think Ed was allowed to appear to me to lay that to rest.

I had enough to worry about being unable at that time to post to my Website after losing my old computer on Jan 9. Between Windows 7 (instead of XP) and updated CoffeeCup HTML editor and Direct FTP, I could not figure it out for a long time. Direct FTP couldn' t find the Projects folder. Windows 7 wouldn't let me delete it. My files were in it. I can post now, thank you Lord. I am uploading direct from the HTML editor instead of Direct FTP. Maybe it is because I can think more clearly, and a friend straightened out the Website for me. I could take a fresh approach. Something worked anyway. I can now post documents, and my friend will post the pictures for me until I can figure that out.

Here are the other questions I asked Ed.

"Are there female angels in Heaven?" He said, "Yes."
"Have you gotten with your family?" He said, "Yes."
"Have you gotten with my family?" He said, "Yes."
After I asked, "Do you have a piano?" He said, "Yes," and walked through the wall.

I feel very privileged to have had such a thing happen to me. Ed seemed very normal until he walked through the wall. He had on a black suit made of thin material that had a sheen and flowed in the breeze like silk.

Was it a dream? No. I was awake before, during and after it. It could have been a vision, but not ever having had a vision, I don't know. I am assuming that it was Ed in his celestial body. That's what it seemed like. I think Jesus walked through a wall after he was resurrected.

Bob Ware had a dream in which he shook hands with his brother that had been dead several years. Maybe these things are happening because we are so close to the Rapture. Agape

INCOMING EMAIL

I believe that the day of Pentecost (May 26-27) will be the day of the rapture of the New Testament Church. Pentecost was important enough to Jesus to have His disciples wait for that date. Pentecost is the day the Holy Spirit was given to come and live within a person. The Holy Spirit is the enabler of truth to believe for no one can call Jesus his or her Lord without first having received the new birth by being born-again by the Spirit of God. "Ask and you shall receive". It is by grace that a person receives salvation and that does not come from acquired knowledge, but only from God.

I believe that ten-days before Pentecost (May 16-17) there will be a tremendous earth-changing event of some kind. Perhaps the dead in Christ will rise on this date along with this event. These are the shortened days that Jesus speaks of in Matthew and Mark before the "elect" (true believers in Jesus as their Lord and God) are removed from the earth. After this all hell will break loose on the earth.

These ten-days will be a time of testing for all who claim to believe in Jesus as their Lord and there will be extreme hatred expressed toward those who do believe in Him. Many will ask to receive the Holy Spirit during this time but it will be too late; for Jesus never knew them.

Yes, the time is quickly coming upon us. Watch and be ready. Jesus is God having come to the earth in the form of a man. His name alone stands as the name above all names.

MY COMMENTS

> > I believe that the day of Pentecost (May 26-27) will be the day of the rapture of the New Testament Church. Pentecost was important enough to Jesus to have His disciples wait for that date.

That was to receive the Holy Spirit, not to be raptured.

I think the First-Trump Rapture will be on Ascension Day, May 17, 2012, because Jesus played it out for us. We are the Body of Christ, and his body ascended on Ascension Day. He went away so he could send the Holy Spirit back on Pentecost. I think that will happen again this Pentecost. It will energize the 144,000 Israelites and the foolish virgins to get the Temple built and bring that great multitude that no one can count to Christ before the Last-Trump Rapture takes place on the Day of God's Wrath, on Trumpets, Sept 14, 2015.

Job 11:5,6 says, "But oh that God (i.e., Jesus) would speak... 6 And that he (Jesus) would shew thee the secrets of wisdom, that they are double (or duplicate) to that which is!"

Here is an important post from Five Doves that I missed originally. I have to thank Tom Tanner for sending it to me. It woke me up. January, 2009, was before the Tribulation started on Pentecost, May 29, 2009.

Ola Ilori (20 Jan 2012)

"EASTER AND THE FIRSTFRUITS RAPTURE"

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/jan2012/ola120-2.htm

Hi Doves,
Over a period of 15 Years, from 2001 to 2015, Easter and First-fruits coincide only 4 times!
2002 - Sunday the 31st of March [16th of Nisan]
2005 - Sunday the 27th of March [16th of Nisan]
2009 - Sunday the 12th of April [16th of Nisan]
2012 - Sunday the 8th of April [16th of Nisan]

Back in January 2009 a brother sent me the following vision received from an angel. Back then, we thought the rapture would happen on the Sunday the 12th of April 2009. Now, I believe this brother was being shown that the rapture will occur in 2012!!! Ola.

I had this visions when I was wide awake and I could talk to the Angel that was showing me the vision.

In this vision the Angel and I was walking and came upon a hill.
I looked at the hill and there was some graves in it, they started opening up and people were coming out of them.
I asked the Angel what is this?
He said "it's the dead in Christ being resurrected, just as God said they would be".
I then saw people floating upward out of their cars and houses but I was not going with them"
I said when will this happen?
He replied "first fruits"
I said Easter?
He said "Yes, it will happen on first fruits just as promised!"

I thought, "AS PROMISED, where? Oh wow! JESUS ACTED IT OUT FOR US."

I woke up in a flash. I remembered Job 11:6 and something similar in Ecclesiastes. Ecc 1:9 says, "The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun." Ecc 3:15 says, "That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past."

On Easter/Firstfruits April 9, 30 AD, Jesus was resurrected. Many others came out of their graves and were seen in Jerusalem. I think that acted out the resurrection of the dead in Christ on Easter/Firstfruits, Omer 1, April 8, 2012. I think my husband Ed got his resurrection body on April 8.

On April 2, while still in his celestial body that could go through a wall, Ed visited me. Tired of sitting in front of my computer, I was lounging on the bed propped up with a bolster and 2 pillows as if watching TV. Ed walked briskly into the room from the entryway smiling from ear to ear. I recognized him instantly. I told him I thought I would be with him on May 17, and told him how I would be calling him after the Rapture. He walked up between the dresser and bed. I told him I wanted to hug him, but he still stood there. I got the idea that he might not be allowed to touch me. I started firing questions at him as fast as I could get them out.

I asked him if he was 30 or 33. In his normal voice, he said, "33" and he looked like he did at 33, not 87. Now I know what he will look like when I see him at the time of the Rapture.

I asked,"Can we be together forever?" He said, "Yes."
"Are there female angels in Heaven?" He said, "Yes."
"Have you gotten with your family?" He said, "Yes."
"Have you gotten with my family?" He said, "Yes."
"Do you have a piano?" He said, "Yes," and walked through the wall.

He looked, sounded and walked normal, but he was gone in a hurry. I didn't get to touch him. He was wearing a black suit made of thin material that had a sheen and flowed like silk as he walked.

I think he was allowed to visit me because I was worried about whether we could be together forever or not. Jesus said that in heaven, they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels in heaven. We were married and became one flesh on Earth, so I thought we could be together in heaven, but I wasn't sure. I couldn't be happy if we weren't, so I think he was allowed to reassure me that we could be together forever.

I want to tell this so others will know that they can be with their loved one forever if that is what they desire. God always has more than one reason for doing things, and that was not clear to me in the Bible. It might not be clear to others.

I think the foolish virgins are saved. They just do not have enough of the oil of the Holy Spirit. Their lamps are sputtering, threatening to go out. I don't think they have totally gone out.

Mat 25:8 (KJV) says, "And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out (sbennumi, "A prolonged form of an apparently primary verb; to extinguish (literally or figuratively): - go out, quench."

1Th_5:19 says, "Quench not the Spirit" using the same word. Jesus said he would never leave us.

I think the NASB has it right. Their "lamps are going out." Mat 25:8 (NASB) says," The foolish said to the prudent, 'Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out.'"

> > I believe that ten-days before Pentecost (May 16-17) there will be a tremendous earth-changing event of some kind.

Yes! I believe that will be the First-Trump Rapture.

Luk 12:46 says, "The lord of that servant (the unwise believer, i.e., the foolish virgin) will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder (lit., cut him off), and will appoint him HIS PORTION (i.e., May 17, 2012, First-Trump Rapture, to Sept 14, 2015, Last-Trump Rapture) with the unbelievers."

Mt 24:51 adds, "And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him HIS PORTION with the hypocrites (pretenders): there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

Mat 22:11-13 says, "And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment: 12 And he saith unto him (a Laodicean), Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless (he thought he had it made). 13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness (i.e., outside of the door darkness); there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

At the time of the First-Trump Rapture, Rev 17:14 says, "the Lamb...he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that ARE WITH HIM are called, and chosen, and faithful."

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