Pro and Con 1651

Posted 5-12-2012

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AND OUR SOON REMOVAL

On May 20, this year, there will be what astronomers call "an annular eclipse of the sun". This occurs when the moon blots out the sun, but not totally as in a total eclipse.

It is very rare and has not occurred in a couple hundred years. It is called colloquially "the wedding ring" eclipse. This is because the moon does not totally blot out the sun but is nevertheless dead center of it. The appearance is a fiery wedding band in the heavens.

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MY REPLY

Thanks. If the Rapture of the Bride of Christ is on Ascension Day, May 17, 2012, the appearance of the "Wedding Band" Eclipse on the 20th will be very appropriate. Agape

Note: If the Bride of Christ is raptured on Ascension Day, May 17, then this Wedding Ring Eclipse appears on the 20th, It should convince the foolish virgins that the Lord has come and taken his bride to Heaven. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Luk 12:46 says, "The lord of that servant (i.e., the unwise) will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder (lit., cut him off), and will appoint him his portion (i.e, part of the Tribulation) with the unbelievers."

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Marilyn, If Lag B'Omer is the only day that marriages were allowed during the Omer count (5/9-5/10), and the church is known as the bride, how could Jesus come for the church on Ascension Day 5/17 when marriages weren't traditionally allowed? Just curious about your thoughts. The ones watching for the rapture are also likened to wise virgins, again supporting that the coming to get us is related to the Jewish wedding tradition.

MY REPLY

> > how could Jesus come for the church on Ascension Day 5/17 when marriages weren't traditionally allowed?

POINT 1

The key word there is "traditionally." The Bible does not tell Israelites to keep Lag B'Omer. If the Lord did not put it in Scripture, we don't have to take it into consideration.

Satan has been trying very hard to muddy the water with all kinds of conflicting and false religious ideas ever since the Tower of Babel, when Nimrod and Semiramis set up the Mystery Religion of Babylon. Nimrod and their son Tammuz were worshipped as the sun god. Semiramis and Tammuz were worshipped as the Madonna and child. Semiramis said that Tammuz was killed by a wild boar and was resurrected.

I wondered if Lag B'Omer was mentioned in the Talmud, so I searched on Google and this was the first thing that came up:

http://www.umjc.org/home-mainmenu-1/news-mainmenu-40/1-latest/604-lag-bomer-keep-on-counting

"This week marks Lag B'Omer, the thirty-third day of the counting of the Omer, a minor holiday whose origins are shrouded in mystery. It is a day of celebration in the midst of the more solemn mood of the rest of the days of the Omer. Why is this so? "The Talmud records that one year, through the first weeks of counting of the Omer, twelve thousand pairs of disciples of Rabbi Akiva died until the 33rd day, when the deaths ceased (Yevamot 62b)."

Here is what Wikipedia says about the Talmud:

"The Talmud (..."instruction, learning", from a root lmd "teach, study") is a central text of mainstream Judaism. It takes the form of a record of rabbinic discussions pertaining to Jewish law, ethics, philosophy, customs and history.

"The Talmud has two components: the Mishnah (Hebrew: ????)(c. 200 CE), the first written compendium of Judaism's Oral Law; and the Gemara (c. 500 CE), an elucidation of the Mishnah and related Tannaitic writings that often ventures onto other subjects and expounds broadly on the Hebrew Bible."

POINT 2

There are two Raptures, the First-Trump Rapture of I Thess 4:16,17 and the Last-Trump Rapture of I Cor 15:51-54. They cannot be the same event, as many claim. Those raised at the first Rapture are not made immortal until after the last Rapture. Also, you can't have a last without a first.

Num 10:1-4 says, "the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 2 Make thee TWO TRUMPETS of silver; of a whole piece shalt thou make them: that thou mayest use them (i.e., both) for the calling of the assembly, and for the journeying of the camps. 3 And when they shall blow with them (both), ALL the assembly shall assemble themselves to thee at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation. 4 And if they blow but with ONE trumpet, then the princes (i.e., elders), which are heads of the thousands of Israel, shall gather themselves unto thee" (as in Rev 4:1-4).

POINT 3

I think the 144,000 Israelites will be added to the wise-virgin Bride of Christ group at the Last-Trump Rapture before the Marriage of the Lamb will take place.

Rev 5:9 says,"And they (i.e., wise-virgin saints caught up in the First-Trump Rapture) sung a NEW SONG, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation".

After the Last-Trump Rapture of Rev 7, Rev 14:1-5 says, "And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads. 2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: 3 And they sung as it were a NEW SONG before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and NO MAN COULD LEARN THAT SONG BUT THE HUNDRED AND FORTY AND FOUR THOUSAND, which were redeemed from the earth. 4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for THEY ARE VIRGINS . These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. 5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are WITHOUT FAULT before the throne of God."

The Last-Trump Rapture will take place on the Day of God's Wrath (Rev 6:17; 7:14). That is the day Jesus receives his millennial kingdom. Like Solomon, he will purge it at the outset. I think the Last-Trump Rapture will take place on Trumpets, Sept 14, 2015, just before the asteroids of Rev 8:8-11 impact Earth.

During the silence in Heaven and Earth, Jesus will be seated as judge at the Judgment seat of Christ. After his duties there are taken care of, the Marriage of the Lamb can take place.

Hab_2:20 says, "But the LORD is in his holy temple: let all the EARTH KEEP SILENCE before him."

Rev_8:1 says, "And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was SILENCE IN HEAVEN about the space of half an hour."

Rev 19:1-7 says, "And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God: 2 For true and righteous are his judgments: for he HATH JUDGED the great whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand. 3 And again they said, Alleluia. And her smoke rose up for ever and ever. 4 And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped God that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia. 5 And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our God, all ye his servants, and ye that fear him, both small and great. 6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent REIGNETH. 7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for THE MARRIAGE OF THE LAMB IS COME, and his wife hath made herself ready." Agape

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Hello Marilyn, I see your posts on 5doves and also read something on Stevensandiego's site this morning. I replied and just wanted to let you know that I responded to something you wrote.

http://pub39.bravenet.com/forum/static/show.php?usernum=3330765498&frmid=8549&msgid=891978&cmd=show

There are links supplied to Lag B'Omer and the counting of the omer. I've written on today, Lag B'Omer the 33rd day of the Omer, 4 weeks and 5 days. There is a tradition that manna was given on this day, 18 Iyar. Come bread of heaven, come back Lord Jesus.

God bless you Marilyn. I truly hope the Lord returns soon. Maybe today on this traditional day of giving manna and weddings.
http://media.photobucket.com/image/manna%20from%20heaven/iam733_photos/1-MANNA-FALLING-FROM-HEAVEN.jpg?o=9

...Now you will see how my mind works as I have re-translated this same phrase without the help of any study aids.

I, Zechariah, looked up and saw a flying scroll in the sky.

I did not have the Hebrew text as I lay in bed reading this, but I expected that the word 'roll' was from the Hebrew word 'megillah' - and it is. A megillah is a singular scroll - such as the megillah of Esther. It is a small volume and does not require megillot - two scrolls, which are necessary for a larger volume, such as the Torah. We have a long history of what a scroll looks like. It is a cylinder that is several times longer than its diameter. It has neither a chocolate frosting or a salmon and cream cheese filling - it is just a cylinder that is doing something very unusual to Zechariah's way of thinking - 2,500 years before airplanes were invented - it is flying. Let's watch the picture develop.

2 And he said unto me, "What seest thou?" I see a flying roll; the length thereof is twenty cubits, and the breadth thereof ten cubits. KJV

My translation:

2 And the angel that was showing me these things said,

What do you see? I see a flying scroll in the sky; the length thereof is twenty cubits, and the breadth thereof ten cubits. KJV

The cubit used in the land of Israel through the time of Solomon is the measurement commonly referred to as "the royal Egyptian cubit" which is 29.62 British inches. The intact gates of Gezer and Beth-Horon measure out to the perfect 29.62 inch cubit. This measurement may more properly be referred to as "the sacred cubit" as it was used in the building of the Great Pyramid of Giza long before the modern day Egyptians attempted to copy the structure. Josephus indicates that it was built before the flood of Noah.

The 20 cubit length of this megillah is twice the 10 breadth, which would make this look more like a soup can, than a scroll. But if the 10 cubit breadth is describing the circumference - such as the 12 cubit circumference of the brazen pillars of Solomon's Temple - then we have the dimensions of a traditional megillah. Translating these dimensions into a standard measurement for the United States:

I see a flying scroll; 34.3 feet long, and 5.5 feet in diameter.

I have seen many a flying scroll with these dimensions. Let's go on...

3 Then said he unto me, this is the curse that goeth forth over the face of the whole earth. KJV

The term 'earth' is usually from 'eretz', which can and often does refer only to eretz Israel - the land of Israel. Context alone determines its usage, and sometimes the context is indecisive. I rendered it...

3 Then he said, "This flying scroll is the curse that will afflict the entire land of Israel.

Then the angel qualifies the reason for its existence...

Every one that steals and every one that swears falsely by my name will be destroyed by it. 4And I will bring it forth, says YHWH T'zavaot.

Those who carry the name of the Holy One of Israel for their own personal glory and agenda - those who say that they speak for the Almighty but only speak their own desires, are swearing falsely in His name. Those who say, "the Lord told me..." and the LORD never told them anything - those are the individuals who will be destroyed by this curse that will inflict at least the entire land of Israel, and perhaps on a global scale. The prophet Jeremiah speaks of false prophets who steal God's words 'one from another.' They say they have a word from the Lord, but it is the same word that the false prophet who heads their denomination has been mouthing for the last 60 years. Those who steal and swear falsely in His name will be destroyed by this flying scroll that will afflict the entire land, and YHWH will bring it forth...

This flying scroll that you see, will completely consume the timbers and stones of the house of the thief, and he that swears falsely by my name."

This is one bad megillah! Any idea of what kind of flying scroll might have that kind of destructive capacity in our day and time?

5 Then the angel said, "Look up and see what this flying scroll is." 6 And I responded, "What is it?" MIV

This is a treasure. The angel is actually going to give us more detail about this destructive device.

And he said, "This is an ephah that goeth forth." He said moreover, "This is their resemblance through all the earth." 7 And, behold, there was lifted up a talent of lead: and this is a woman that sitteth in the midst of the ephah. KJV

Aha! This is where Cohen got the picture of a woman in a basket -from an English translation of ephah. When we measure out an ephah of corn at the market, we use a basket that will contain an ephah measure of product. Growing up on an orchard in Michigan, I know what a peck of apples looks like - whether it is in the old wooden basket with wire handles, or in a white paper sack with nylon handles. A peck, like an ephah, is a measurement - it is a container. But this is a container that flies! It is a flying container that is 34.3 feet long and it is 5.5 feet in diameter and it is going to destroy all of those who are outside of God's will in the land of Israel. The angel said furthermore, these destructive devices all look the same, everywhere on the face of the earth.

7 And, behold, there was lifted up a talent of lead: and this is a woman that sitteth in the midst of the ephah. 8 And he said, This is wickedness. And he cast it into the midst of the ephah; and he cast the weight of lead upon the mouth thereof. KJV

Aha! Aha! Here is the woman who is so evil that they put her in a basket with a lead lid on it - and here is the answer.

Now, I must remind you of the scenario. I am laying in bed on the Sabbath during the Feast of Tabernacles in Jerusalem. I am scribbling in the oversized margins of my freshly printed 8.5 X 11 inch paper, as I am translating this text without so much as a dictionary with me. I am seeing a picture develop that I had never entertained in the thirty years that I have been studying the prophet. I came to this verse, sat up in bed and shouted out, "This is not a woman - this is a fire. This is not a woman in a basket - this is a fire in a container." Going down a couple verses I said, "These are not two women, these are two fires."

Now, I know what a hare-brained idea is. I have had more than my share. But I saw something that did not come from my mind at that moment. I have had a few experiences in my life when I was given a revelation so clear that I can still tell you the day, hour and moment that it occurred. It is infrequent enough that each incident changed my life. This was one of those moments.

I got out of bed and sat at my desk as I re-wrote the entire translation onto a fresh sheet of paper. I got dressed and went out to the sukkah where Chaim, Cohen, and David were all there studying together. I interrupted them by my insistence that they listen to what I had been working. I started by saying that I was going to do something very strange - I am going to replace the word 'woman' with the word 'fire'. David was not very happy with that idea, "You can't do that - what is the Hebrew word?" David is an attorney, and his yeshiva training was not going to allow for any nonsense. I told him, "I don't know what the Hebrew word is - I just want you to listen to what I am seeing here." David finally agreed to hear me out.

When I finished reading everyone was stunned. David said, "OK, let's find out what it says in Hebrew. Chaim read down the page, paused, and looked up at us, "It is the word 'aisha'." David said, "It is a fire offering!" That is the moment that I knew that this had come by revelation, and not by my mind. I was not smart enough to know this, nor did I have the tools in my hand to figure it out. 'Aisha - fire offering' and 'Isha - woman' are the same consonants in Hebrew - the context determines the meaning. The Karaites in the middle ages who developed the Masoretic text, used the vowel point that interpreted this word as 'woman' because they too had no idea of it's prophetic significance. A fire offering in a flying container that incinerates buildings throughout Israel did not make any sense a thousand years ago - but neither did an evil woman in a lead lidded basket! For over 1,000 years, every translation of the Hebrew Scriptures on the planet has been derived from the same Karaite Masorah - with the same dot under the Aleph - a dot that did not exist in the original text. From that same text, every translation, in every language has been resultant.

For centuries, men had followed each others translations and completely missed the point of Zechariah's vision. Now, I hope that you will take me seriously as we continue. I did not start out by saying, "The Lord told me..." because until that moment when Chaim and David confirmed the Hebrew, I wasn't certain. I took you through this chain of events so that you can judge for yourself the validity of what I am about to show you. The Word still goes forth from Zion.

7 Then I saw a mass of lead and a fire offering, as it was lifted up and secured in the container. 8 And he said, "This fire that you see being put in the container, is an evil fire offering." Then he secured the fire offering in the container and put the lead mass in the opening.

The container in which this mass of lead and fire offering is placed is 34.3 feet long and 5.5 feet in diameter. It flies. It will completely consume the homes of the disobedient in the land of Israel - including all of the wood and the stones. This fire offering is evil and it is encased in lead. That, my friends, is a missile with a nuclear warhead poised to strike the land of Israel. Swallow hard.

Non-critical masses of U-235 uranium or other fissionable materials are encased in lead to protect friendly personnel from contamination before detonation. When the warhead is activated, a controlled explosion propels the non-critical masses together to reach critical mass. That creates the evil fire that produces a holocaust - a burnt offering of everything in the path of the fireball. Moments later, the vacuum left from the departing fireball sucks the smoke and debris back into the void, and a pillar of fire and smoke shoots up into the stratosphere, darkening the sun, moon, and stars. (See 'The Mystery of Iniquity' by Michael John Rood; appendix VI - Modern Warfare Technology in the Book of Revelation: Bridge-Logos publishers, available through A Rood Awakening.

Now the vision makes sense. The precursor to the upcoming war detailed in the 12th chapter, is the development and deployment of nuclear missiles against the land of Israel. Thermal-nuclear war in the land of Israel is going to happen, and I am in the city of Jerusalem as I write this. I know from experience that the safest place for me is in the will of God. But it is sometimes difficult to determine if we are doing His will, or our own. No other generation ever got out of this life alive. The goal is not to live to the end, but be faithful to the end - whenever it is, wherever it happens.

MY REPLY

> > 'Aisha - fire offering' and 'Isha - woman' are the same consonants in Hebrew - the context determines the meaning. The Karaites in the middle ages who developed the Masoretic text, used the vowel point that interpreted this word as 'woman' because they too had no idea of it's prophetic significance. A fire offering in a flying container that incinerates buildings throughout Israel did not make any sense a thousand years ago - but neither did an evil woman in a lead lidded basket! For over 1,000 years, every translation of the Hebrew Scriptures on the planet has been derived from the same Karaite Masorah - with the same dot under the Aleph - a dot that did not exist in the original text. From that same text, every translation, in every language has been resultant.

> > Thermal-nuclear war in the land of Israel is going to happen

You think Israel is going to get hit by an atomic bomb. I don't. Jerusalem is going to be the capital of the world. I don't think the Lord will allow it to be rendered radioactive. I think he will step in and fight for Israel TO PREVENT THAT.

ZECH 14:1-3 SAYS, "THE RESIDUE OF THE PEOPLE SHALL NOT BE CUT OFF FROM THE CITY"

If an atomic bomb hit the city, I think all would eventually be cut off from the city for a long time. Satan would probably do that if he could. I don't think it will come to pass.

Zec 14:1-3 says, "Behold, the day of the LORD (i.e., which is the Day of God's Wrath) cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. 2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and THE RESIDUE OF THE PEOPLE SHALL NOT BE CUT OFF FROM THE CITY. 3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle."

IN THE DAY OF BATTLE, JOSHUA'S LONG DAY, THE LORD CAST DOWN GREAT STONES FROM HEAVEN

Jos 10:11-13 says, "And it came to pass, as they fled from before Israel, and were in the going down to Bethhoron, that THE LORD CAST DOWN GREAT STONES FROM HEAVEN UPON THEM UNTO AZEKAH, and they died: they were more which died with hailstones than they whom the children of Israel slew with the sword. 12 Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon. 13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day."

IN THE DAY OF BATTLE, JESUS/JOSHUA'S LONG DAY, THE LORD WILL CAST DOWN GREAT STONES FROM HEAVEN

Rev 18:21 says, "And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all."

Rev 8:8-11 says, "And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; 9 And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed. 10 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star (aster, star, asteroid, meteorite) from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; 11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter."

SATAN'S PLANET, RAHAB, WAS SPLIT INTO PIECES (ASTEROIDS) IN THE PAST

Isa 51:9 says, "Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the LORD (Jesus, Isa 53:1,2); awake, as in the ancient days, in the generations of old. Art thou not it that hath cut (lit., split) Rahab, and wounded the dragon?" (Satan).

SATAN NOW LIVES ON THE ASTEROID WORMWOOD, A PIECE OF HIS FORMER PLANET RAHAB

Isa 22:16-19 says, "What hast thou here? (Babylon) and whom hast thou here (the false prophet), that thou hast hewed thee out a sepulchre here, as he (Satan) that heweth him out a sepulchre on high, and that graveth an habitation for himself in a rock? (i.e., an asteroid)17 Behold, the LORD will carry thee away with a mighty captivity, and will surely cover thee. 18 He will surely violently turn and TOSS THEE LIKE A BALL into a large country (i.e., not tiny Israel): there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord's house. 19 And I will drive thee from thy station, and from thy state shall he pull thee down."

> > 3 Then said he unto me, this is the curse that goeth forth over the face of the whole earth. KJV

> > The term 'earth' is usually from 'eretz', which can and often does refer only to eretz Israel - the land of Israel. Context alone determines its usage, and sometimes the context is indecisive. I rendered it...

> > 3 Then he said, "This flying scroll is the curse that will afflict the entire land of Israel.

I think the mountain-sized piece of rock in Rev 8:8 will impact the Mediterranean Sea. The resulting tsunami will wash Gog's army out of Israel's hair at the time that Damascus ceases to be a city. I think this asteroid called Wormwood orbits "over the face of the whole earth".

After Wormwood splits at the Roche Limit 11,000 miles out, the mountain-sized piece will hit the Mediterranean Sea. This alone will cause the worldwide earthquake in which every wall falls (Eze 38:18-22).

If the ephah basket woven with thin slices of wood, were to be filled with fire and two fires pick it up to carry it to the land of Shinar, Babylon, the ephah itself would be burned up.

Zec 5:10,11 says,"Then said I to the angel that talked with me, Whither do these bear the ephah? 11 And he said unto me, To build it an house in the land of Shinar: and it shall be established, and set there upon her own base."

If the ephah was burned up, would they build it a house in Babylon?

The woman is a city. She represents a Catholic (universal, i.e., world-wide) religious group. I think Vatican City will be moved to Babylon.

Rev 17:18 "And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth."

I'll stick with the Masoretic text. Agape

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