Pro and Con 1668

Posted 11-17-2012

RAM'S HORN SHOFAR (TRUMPET)

I now think the Rapture will be Teveth 1, 5773, Friday, Dec. 14, 2012.
During Hanukkah the trumpet sounds on the first of the month.
Ed acted it out when he flew to Heaven on Teveth 1 last year.

MY REPLY TO AN INCOMING EMAIL (omitted)

> > SCRIPTURE TELLS US "THE ELECT" REMNANT IS SAVED BEFORE "HIS ELECT" CHURCH IS RAPTURED (emphasis is mine)

That seems backwards to me. The phrase, "elect remnant" is not in the KJV. The way you put it would place the Last-Trump Rapture of the foolish virgins (I Cor 15:51-54) on the Day of God's Wrath, ahead of the First-Trump Rapture of the wise virgins (I Thess 4:16,17), and I Cor 15:51-54 is definitely the "LAST TRUMP".

I think the wise virgins will be raptured before the Tribulation saints, which includes the 144,000 Israelites, the foolish virgins, and a great multitude saved after the First-Trump Rapture takes place (Rev 7:9,14).

FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE

1 Thess 4:13-17 says, "But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent (Old English for precede) them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words."

LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE

You can't have a last trump ahead of the first trump.

1Co 15:49-54 says, "And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. 50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, AT THE LAST TRUMP: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we (i.e., saints of the First-Trump Rapture) shall be changed (i.e., become immortal). 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption (i.e., at either Rapture), and this mortal must put on immortality (only at the Last_Trump Rapture) 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption (at either Rapture), and this mortal shall have put on immortality (at the last Rapture), then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory."

Kislev 24 is the last day the trees were beaten and the fallen olives gathered. After that, the olives were put in presses and the oil extracted. The solids left after straining took 8 days to settle to the bottom. Therefore, clarifying new oil for the Temple took 8 days.

At the end of Kislev 24, I think the wise virgins had enough oil to last Kislev 25 through Teveth 2. The foolish virgins did not, and could not obtain any more for 8 days. It takes 8 days for the strained oil to become clear.

The wise virgins are the Temple of the Holy Spirit. Maybe the wise virgins' oil for one day would miraculously last 8 days as at the Temple on the first Hanukkah, which means dedication. Eight means new beginning. The First-Trump Rapture will be a new beginning for the wise virgins, not the foolish ones.They will be caught up in the Last-Trump Rapture.

JESUS WENT TO JERUSALEM ON THE FEAST OF DEDICATION, AND IT WAS WINTER

Joh 10:22,23 says, "And it was at Jerusalem the feast of the dedication (Hanukkah), and IT WAS WINTER. And JESUS WALKED IN THE TEMPLE in Solomon's porch."

Kislev 25, 3790 (Hebrew), in the year of the Crucifixion, was Wednesday, Dec. 21, WINTER, in 29 AD (Julian).

Solomon means peaceful, and would not fit the Day of God's Wrath, the day of the Last-Trump Rapture. Peaceful fits the First-Trump Rapture. Sudden destruction fits the time after the Last-Trump Rapture and the end of the Great Tribulation, NOT THE TIME OF THE FIRST TRUMP RAPTURE.

TO ME, IT LOOKS LIKE THE WISE VIRGINS WILL BE RAPTURED ON KISLEV 25, 5773, SUNDAY, DEC 9, 2012, THE FIRST DAY OF THE FEAST OF DEDICATION

We are the Temple of the Holy Spirit. I think we will be raptured when the literal Temple was purified and rededicated.

Mat 25:8-13 says, "And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil (i.e., olive oil); for our lamps are gone out (lit., sputtering, going out). 9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves. 10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut. 11 Afterward (i.e., after 8 days, when they could buy new oil) came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. 12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not. 13 Watch therefore, for ye (i.e., the foolish virgins) know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh."

THE FOOLISH VIRGINS SEEM TO BE THE WHEAT HARVEST THAT STARTED ON PENTECOST AND ENDED ON THE FEAST OF TRUMPETS, WHICH WILL BE SEPT 14, 2015, PROBABLY THE DATE OF THE LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE ON THE GREAT AND TERRIBLE DAY OF THE LORD, THE DAY OF GOD'S WRATH.

ONLY THE WISE WILL UNDERSTAND

Dan 12:10 says, "none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand."

To me, people that parrot Mt 24:36 don't understand. They can't get past the day that Jesus gave the Olivet Discourse, when he said, “of that day and hour knoweth no man". Knoweth is present tense. No one knew on Tuesday, Nisan 11, 3790 (Hebrew), April 4, 30 AD (Julian), two days before the Crucifixion on Thursday, Nisan 13, 3790 (Hebrew), April 6, 30 AD (Julian).

Paul was talking to the babes in Christ when in 1 Cor 3:1, he told the Corinthians, “And I, brethren (i.e., believers), could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ." the word "babes" is “nepios...From an obsolete particle ?? ne; implying negation and G2031; not speaking, that is, an infant (minor); figuratively...an immature Christian: - babe, child (+ -ish)."

WE CAN KNOW IN "DUE SEASON"

We must read scripture carefully. In Luke 12:42, The "Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in DUE SEASON? ". Now that you have a website, please be a faithful and wise steward.

In the next verse, Jesus said, "Blessed is that servant (i.e., the faithful and wise steward), whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing." You should want to get to this level before the First-Trump Rapture of I Thess 4:16,17 takes place, and you may have less than a month to do it. The First-Trump Rapture may come on Kislev 25, 5773, Dec 9, 2012, the first day of Hannukah (which means dedication).

THERE IS NO SUDDEN DESTRUCTION AT THE TIME OF THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE, IT COMES AT THE TIME OF THE LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE

1Th_5:3 says, "For when they (UNBELIEVERS) shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape."

Let's look at more of that passage, for the "sudden destruction" will not come on us. Keep in mind that there will be a warning Solar Eclipse on the Eve of Trumpets, Sept 13, 2015. Then, the Feast of Trumpets will arrive at 6 PM on our 13th. No wonder the 13 is considered an unlucky number.

I was born and married on the 13th. Now, I finally understand why Ed and I couldn't get married before the 13th day of the month even though we tried twice. When I was still 17 and a senior in High School, we told Mom we wanted to get married. She shouted, "NO!" The 2nd time, we found out at the courthouse that in Tennessee, I would have to be 21 to marry without parental permission. Ed and I were finally married in Virginia a month after I was 18, and we kept it a secret until I graduated in June.

The day of the Marriage of the Lamb, Sept. 14, 2015, will start at 6 PM on Sept. 13, the day of a Solar Eclipse in 2015.

THE LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE

The Feast of Trumpets, Sept. 14, 2015, is probably the day of the Last-Trump-Rapture, the Rapture of the Tribulation saints, and the Day of God's Wrath. The brethren should be raptured before that day comes, hopefully on Kislev 25, 5773, Dec. 9, 2012.

In I Thess. 5:1-11, Paul was talking of two groups, brethren (believers) and they (unbelievers).

He said, "But of the times and the seasons, ye (i.e., brethren, believers), have no need that I write unto you (i.e., because they will already be in heaven by this time). 2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord (i.e., the Day of God's Wrath) so cometh as a thief in the night (i.e., probably the night of Sept. 13/14, 2015). 3 For when they (unbelievers) shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. 4 But ye, brethren (i.e., Philadelphian believers), are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. 5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. 6 Therefore let us (i.e., believers that will be caught up in the First-Trump Rapture) not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober. 7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night. 8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation. 9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him. 11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do."

Kislev 25, 3789 (Hebrew) was Dec. 21, 29 AD (Julian). Dec. 21 was winter, when Jesus probably went to Jerusalem for the Feast of Dedication.

If you want to check this out for yourself, go to http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/calendar/. In the Hebrew Calendar, put in Kislev 27, 3790 (because the Hillel II Hebrew Calendar used today has been extrapolated backwards, and it's off by 2 days in Jesus' day). Hit Calculate, then look at the Julian Calendar. It will say, 29 December 21, which is correct. That was the first day of winter.

Concerning the unwise servant (like the Laodican foolish virgins not wearing white robes), in Luk 12:46, Jesus said, "The lord of that servant (i.e., the foolish virgin) will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder (lit., cut him off), and will appoint him his portion (i.e., OF THE TRIBULATION) with the unbelievers."

Please don't be caught unaware.

Mat 24:51 adds, "And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion (i.e., OF THE TRIBULATION) with the hypocrites (lit., pretenders): there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

In Mt 22:10-14, Jesus said, "So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good (i.e., both wise and foolish virgins): and the wedding was furnished with guests. 11 And when the king (i.e., Jesus) came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment: 12 And he saith unto him, Friend (i.e., he is a Laodicean believer), how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless (i.e., he thought he had it made). 13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 14 For many are called (i.e., to the wedding feast), but few are chosen."

Those wearing a white wedding garment, the Philadelphians, who have no condemnation listed, are chosen. Those not wearing a white wedding garment are the Laodiceans who have not repented.

In time, right after the First-Trump Rapture, Rev 17:14 says, "These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful." This is when the ten kings "have received no kingdom as yet."

THE PHILADELPHIAN WISE VIRGINS MUST BE CAUGHT UP BEFORE THE LAODICEAN FOOLISH VIRGINS

HOW DO I KNOW THAT?

The clues to figuring it out are in the Bible. Luk 12:2 says, "there is NOTHING covered (i.e., including the time of both Raptures), that shall not be revealed; neither hid, that shall not be known."

Luk 8:17,18 says, "For NOTHING IN SECRET, THAT SHALL NOT BE MADE MANIFEST, NEITHER ANY THING HID, THAT SHALL NOT BE KNOWN AND COME ABROAD. 18 Take heed therefore how ye hear: for whosoever hath, to him shall be given; and whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he seemeth to have."

Mark 13:23 says, "But take ye heed: behold, I HAVE FORETOLD YOU ALL THINGS."

Amos 3:7 says, "Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but HE REVEALETH HIS SECRET unto his servants the prophets." The clues are in the Bible.

Job 11:5,6 says, "But oh that God would speak, and open his lips against thee; 6 And that he would shew thee THE SECRETS OF WISDOM, THAT THEY ARE DOUBLE TO THAT WHICH IS!"

To the Philadelphians, Rev 3:8 says, "I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name."

To the Laodiceans, Rev 3:18,19 says, "I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. 19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent."

Luk 12:42: "And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season?"

AT THE TIME OF THE SECOND RAPTURE, THE WISE VIRGINS WILL BE GATHERED FROM ONE END OF HEAVEN TO THE OTHER

Mat 24:31 says, "And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of HEAVEN to the other."

AT THE SAME TIME, THE FOOLISH VIRGINS WILL BE GATHERED FROM ONE END OF EARTH TO THE OTHER.

Mark_13:27 speaks of both. It says, "And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the EARTH to the uttermost part of HEAVEN."

Those gathered from one end of heaven to the other were raptured previously.

Heb 12:22-24 says, "But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, 23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, 24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling".

> > Therefore we are told that immediately before the world-wide rapture of the glorified bodies of 'His elect" Church/bride; the flesh of "the elect" Jewish remnant will be saved from God's shortened great tribulation of Israel. The rapture happens "immediately after" God's great tribulation of Israel, but immediately before God's "hour of trial" wrath upon the whole-world.

If that was so, how did the "church of the firstborn" get in heaven before the Tribulation saints?

The great and terrible Day of the Lord, which is the Day of God's Wrath and the day of the Last-Trump Rapture, cannot be the day of the First-Trump Rapture.

I Thess 5:4 says, "But ye, brethren (believers), are NOT in darkness, that that DAY (THE DAY OF THE LORD) should overtake you as a thief."

It would not be comforting to us if we had to go through the worst of times and be raptured on the great and terrible day of the Lord. God will wipe away the tears of those raptured that day. They will barely make it out of here before God's Wrath hits Earth.

Jer_30:7 says, "Alas! for that day (i.e., the great and terrible Day of the Lord) is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he (i.e., the 144,000 Israelites of Rev 7 that are caught up in the Last-Trump Rapture) shall be saved out of it."

Of the foolish Laodiceans, Rev 7:14 says, "These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb." They had to do it the hard way.

Joel 2:11 says, "And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word: for the DAY OF THE LORD IS GREAT AND VERY TERRIBLE; and who can abide it?" The Lord won't put any of his saints through that.

Isa_2:12 For the DAY OF THE LORD of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low"

Isa_13:6 Howl ye; for the DAY OF THE LORD is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty."

Isa_13:9 Behold, the DAY OF THE LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it."

Isa_34:8 For it is the DAY OF THE LORD'S vengeance, and the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion."

The reason it is the "year of recompences" is because the battle of Armageddon, Christ's forces against Satan's forces, will take place immediately after the Second Advent, which is seven months after the battle of Gog and Magog.

Eze 39:11-13 says, "And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude: and they shall call it The valley of Hamongog. 12 And seven months shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land. 13 Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown the day that I shall be glorified (i.e., at the Second Advent), saith the Lord GOD."

Jer_46:10 For this is the DAY OF THE LORD GOD of hosts, a day of vengeance, that he may avenge him of his adversaries: and the sword shall devour, and it shall be satiate and made drunk with their blood: for the Lord GOD of hosts hath a sacrifice in the north country by the river Euphrates."

Lam_2:22 Thou hast called as in a solemn day my terrors round about, so that in the DAY OF THE LORD'S anger none escaped nor remained: those that I have swaddled and brought up hath mine enemy consumed."

Eze_13:5 Ye have not gone up into the gaps, neither made up the hedge for the house of Israel to stand in the battle in the DAY OF THE LORD."

Joe_2:31 says, "The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible DAY OF THE LORD come."

Rev 6:12-17 says, "And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. 14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?"

Joh_4:35: "Say not ye, There are yet four months (Teveth, Shevat, Adar and Nisan, i.e., 5773 is not a leap year), and then cometh harvest? behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields; for they are white already to harvest." Barley is showing white when ready for harvest. Abib barley was ready for the Feast of Firstfruits, Nisan 16, 3790 (Hebrew), Sunday, April 9, 30 AD.

CONCLUSION

Because the ten virgins needed olive oil, it looks like the First-Trump Rapture will be at the end of the olive harvest. No more olives can be picked after Kislev 24. I think the First-Trump Rapture will probably come on Kislev 25, the first day of Hanukkah, the Feast of Dedication, the Feast of Lights. Jesus went to Jerusalem at the Feast of Dedication, when it was winter, i.e., on Dec. 21, 29 AD (Julian). Agape

INCOMING EMAIL, RE: this is the complete collection

http://www.raptureready.com/featured/ice/ttcol.html
it says we should not look for signs, because for the church Christ will be revealed, and for israel are all the signs.
Read number 80

MY REPLY

Thanks for raising this question. I may have finally found out when the Rapture will be while answering this, but it has nothing to do with Thomas Ice. It has to do with the date Teveth 1, when Ed ascended to Heaven last year. Queen Esther was taken into the king's house on Teveth 1, which will be Dec. 14 in 2012. I will be 84 on Dec. 13, and the Rapture might take place on the night of Dec. 13/14.

Here is some of what Thomas Ice, who believes in a Pre-Trib Rapture, wrote. Emphasis is mine.

http://www.raptureready.com/featured/ice/ttcol.html
> > Christ, upon instructing His disciples on how citizens of the kingdom should conduct themselves after His departure until His return, counseled a posture of "readiness," "alertness," "waiting and watching," faithfully engaged in performing the tasks He left His followers to do (Matt. 24:45-47; Luke 12:35-40; Mark 13:33-37). While it is true that these passages from the Gospels refer to the coming of the Messianic Kingdom at the second coming following the Tribulation, it appears that the posture of readiness, alertness, watching, and waiting is also Christ's will for His church as commanded in the Epistles. No where is there even a hint that signs will relate to the rapture....
> > Imminence means that Christ could come for His church at any-moment; that there are no signs relating to the rapture; that no prophecy has to be fulfilled before Christ could call us to meet Him in the air. Note some of the many passages in the Epistles that teach this truth
> > 1 Corinthians 1:7

> > Paul expresses delight, in this letter to the most carnal of churches, that they were "awaiting eagerly the revelation of our Lord Jesus Christ." We see from this that Christ's coming for His church is seen as imminent. If imminent, then date-setting is prohibited.

We will know soon. The word "imminent" does not appear in the KJV Bible. The words "date setting" do not appear. The word "prohibited" is not there either. Then what do we find?

Before I get into the scriptures, let me tell you something that happened to me long ago. I got a wakeup call when I was tired. After I had started to study the Bible in earnest, and before Ed got me a heavy desk and a large electric typewriter, and made the attached garage a room for my studies and for me to teach Good News Club in.

I grew tired of typing about the three Babylons all day on Ed's old portable typewriter, with keys that were hard to push, on a rickety card table in a corner of the kitchen. I didn't know I was writing a book. I thought I was just studying, writing it down so I could keep it straight in my head. I can get farther writing it down than trying to keep it all in my head. Writing has been my way of studying ever since my dad taught me to outline to study.

At twilight, I got up, grabbed my closed Bible by the heel, and threw myself down across the bed, saying to myself, "What am I doing all this for?"

I got a quick answer to that. My Bible had popped open on the bed right under my face, and I saw a steady rectangle of light on Jer 50:2 in that darkened room. Seeing that light was a shock all by itself. I had not opened the heavy self-lined draperies or turned on the light. There was no ordinary way for that light to get into that room. It didn't flash and then go out quickly either.

I read that lighted verse over and over. It said, "Declare ye among the nations, and publish, and set up a standard; publish, and conceal not: say, Babylon is taken, Bel is confounded, Merodach is broken in pieces; her idols are confounded, her images are broken in pieces", and I had been writing about Babylon. I have been studying and writing as much as possible ever since. I have tried to limit my sleeping to 5 hours all these years, so I can study more.

I learn as I write, and that just might have happened again today.

SCRIPTURE SAYS

Pro 8:5 says, "O ye simple, understand wisdom: and, ye fools, be ye of an understanding heart."

Psa_90:12 says, "TEACH US TO NUMBER OUR DAYS, that we may apply our hearts unto wisdom".

Job 8:8-10 says, "ENQUIRE, I PRAY THEE, OF THE FORMER AGE, and prepare thyself to the search of their fathers: 9 (For we are but of yesterday, and know nothing, because OUR DAYS UPON EARTH ARE A SHADOW:) 10 SHALL NOT THEY TEACH THEE, AND TELL THEE, AND UTTER WORDS OUT OF THEIR HEART?"

Job 11:5,6 says, "But oh that God would speak, and open his lips against thee; 6 And that he would shew thee THE SECRETS OF WISDOM, THAT THEY ARE DOUBLE TO THAT WHICH IS!"

Ecc_1:9 says, "THE THING THAT HATH BEEN, IT IS THAT WHICH SHALL BE; AND THAT WHICH IS DONE IS THAT WHICH SHALL BE DONE: AND THERE IS NO NEW THING UNDER THE SUN."

Amos 3:7 says, "Surely the Lord GOD will do NOTHING, but he REVEALETH HIS SECRET unto his servants th Dan 12:10 says, "none of the wicked shall understand; but THE WISE SHALL UNDERSTAND."

I want to be one of the wise.

Isa_28:9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts."

Mar_4:22 says, "For there is NOTHING HID, WHICH SHALL NOT BE MANIFESTED; NEITHER WAS ANY THING KEPT SECRET, BUT THAT IT SHOULD COME ABROAD."

Mark 13:23 says, "But take ye heed: behold, I HAVE FORETOLD YOU ALL THINGS."

Luk 12:2 says, "THERE IS NOTHING COVERED THAT SHALL NOT BE REVEALED; NEITHER HID, THAT SHALL NOT BE KNOWN."

Luk 8:17,18 says, "For NOTHING IS SECRET, THAT SHALL NOT BE MADE MANIFEST, NEITHER ANY THING HID, THAT SHALL NOT BE KNOWN AND COME ABROAD. 18 Take heed therefore how ye hear: for WHOSOEVER HATH, TO HIM SHALL BE GIVEN; and whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he seemeth to have."

I think the Rapture may be during Hanukkah, which means dedication. Hanukkah was the dedication of the Temple. We are the Temple of the Holy Spirit, and they were dedicating the purified Temple on Hanukkah. The trumpet is blown on feast days and the first day of each month, so it will be blown on Teveth 1, Dec. 14, 2012.

Ed died on Tue. Dec 27, 2011, Teveth 1, 5772, last year. Hmmm. He actually ascended to heaven on that day. Was that a sign to me? I will be 84 on Dec. 13 too. My mother was 84 when she ascended. Both Ed and my dad were 87. Things seem to be adding up.

Jesus was in Jerusalem at the time of the Feast of Dedication. Could that suggest that he will come get us at the Rapture on the Feast of Dedication? A miracle marked that feast. At the first Feast of Dedication, the purified oil that was only enough for one day lasted eight days. It takes 8 days for the newly pressed and screened oil to clarify. If the first day of Hanukkah was to be the day of the Rapture of the wise virgins, the foolish virgins wouldn't be able to buy new oil for 8 days. If the 6th day was the rapture of the wise virgins, the foolish virgins still wouldn't be able to buy new clarified oil for 2 more days.

Joh_10:22,23 says, "And it was at Jerusalem the feast of the dedication (Hanukkah means dedication), and it was winter (Kislev 25, 3790, Hebrew; Wed. Dec. 21, 29 AD, Julian). 23 And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon's porch." Solomon means peaceful, so there probably won't be any sudden destruction at the time of the First-Trump Rapture. The Last-Trump Rapture will be on the Day of God’s Wrath. There will be sudden destruction that day."

In John 4:35, Jesus said, "Say not ye, There are yet four months, and then cometh harvest? behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields; for they are white already to harvest." If the Rapture is Teveth 1, 5773, a common deficient year of 353 days, the four months would be Teveth, Shevat, Adar and Nisan, when barley is harvested.

Mat 24:3 says, "And as he sat upon the mount of Olives (suggesting the olive harvest which ends on Kislev 24), the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world" (lit., consummation of the age)?

Mat 24:32-37 says, "Now learn a parable of the fig tree (Israel); When his branch (lit., a scion broken off for grafting) is yet tender (apalos, young, i.e., no older than 19, which Israel was in 1967), and putteth forth leaves (Gaza Strip, Sinai, Golen Heights and West Bank), ye know that summer is nigh (the Six-Day War started June 5, summer began June 21): 33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. 34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. 35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. 36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. 37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be."

Noah knew the year 120 years ahead of time. He used that time to build the Ark. Gen 6:3 says, "And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years."

Applied to our days: 1896 + 120 = 2016. I expect the Second Advent on Nisan 1, 5776 (Hebrew), Saturday, April 9, 2016 (Gregorian), the first day of the Sacred, Regnal and Jubilee years. No wonder the Lord said that he was Lord of the Sabbath. April 9, 2016, will be the anniversary of his resurrection on Sunday, April 9, 30 AD (Julian).

Mat_12:8 says, "For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day."

Mar_2:28 says, "Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath."

Luk_6:5 says, "And he said unto them, That the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath."

Noah knew the day it would begin to rain 7 days ahead of time. Gen 7:4 says, "For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights". Evidently, Noah used those 7 days to load the food and supplies they would need.

In our days, can people know the day of the Rapture 7 days ahead of time? It looks that way. Hurricane Sandy, worst in a century, could have been a forty-day sign. As in Noah's day, rain fell in torrents that day. The rain hit the UN building on Oct. 29, 2012 (Cheshvan 13, 5773), flooding the basement. Forty days later will be Saturday, Dec. 8, 2012, Kislev 24, 5773, the Eve of Hanukkah. Kislev 24 through Friday, Teveth 1, is 7 days.

Gen 7:11-14 says, "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month (Cheshvan 17, Abraham was born 2 years after Noah died, so the Lord was using the Civil Hebrew Calendar, not the Sacred Calendar), THE SAME DAY WERE ALL THE FOUNTAINS OF THE GREAT DEEP BROKEN UP, AND THE WINDOWS OF HEAVEN WERE OPENED. 12 And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights. 13 In the SELFSAME DAY (Cheshvan 17) entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah's wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark; 14 They, and every beast after his kind".

Cheshvan 17, 5773 (Nov. 2, 2012), plus 40 days will be Wednesday, December 12, 2012, the day before my birthday, Dec. 13, Kislev 29. That sure got my attention. Our 2 children were born on Pentecost and the Crucifixion. One year, Ed's birthday fell on the day Jericho fell. Those things made me wonder if anything important would fall on my birthday. If the First-Trump Rapture comes between 6 PM and midnight, it just might be on my 84th birthday. It looks like the Lord planned my life before I got here, and Ed's too. No wonder Ed got me when he prayed for a Christian wife. We knew right away that we were meant to be together. Ed asked me to marry him on the 4th day we got together, and I said, "Yes." Now, we have another get-together to look forward to in the clouds. Oh happy day.

WOW! THE DAY OF THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE MAY BE TEVETH 1, 5773, DEC. 14, 2012, INSTEAD OF KISLEV 25, DEC. 9, THE FIRST DAY OF HANUKKAH

The trumpet is to be blown on the first day of each month. Dec. 14, 2012 will be Teveth 1, the anniversary on the Hebrew Calendar of Ed's being caught up to Heaven last year.

On Dec. 14, 1981, Israel annexed the Golan Heights, which they seized from Syria in the Six-Day War of 1967. On Dec. 14, 1972, Eugene Cernan and Harrison Schmitt left the Moon. What a miraculous thing that was. On Dec. 14, 1962, Mariner 2 made the first US fly-by of another planet, Venus. Maybe these things were signs. Will we fly to another planet, Saturn, on Dec. 14, 2012? It looks promising.

THE FIRST TRUMPET

Num_10:4 says, "And if they blow but with one trumpet, then the princes, which are heads of the thousands of Israel, shall gather themselves unto thee."

Psa_47:5 says, "God is gone up with a shout, the LORD with the sound of a trumpet."

Psa_81:3 says, "Blow up the trumpet in the new moon, in the time appointed, on our solemn feast day." Teveth 1 will be the new moon. I checked it out on Your Sky.

Isa_18:3 says, "All ye inhabitants of the world, and dwellers on the earth, see ye, when he lifteth up an ensign (i.e., the UN flag) on the mountains (i.e., kingdoms); and when he bloweth a trumpet, hear ye."

Cheshvan 17, 5773 is Nov. 2, 2012. Forty days later is Kislev 28, Dec. 12. My 84th birthday is Dec. 13, and the anniversary of Ed's death on the Hebrew Calendar, Teveth 1, 5773, is when the trumpet will sound on Dec. 14. Teveth 1 is when Esther was made Queen. It sure looks like Ed may have been caught up to Heaven on the Hebrew day the saints will be taken to Heaven in the First-Trump Rapture. Teveth 1, 5773 is Dec. 14, 2012.

No wonder Psa_90:12 says, "So teach us to number our days, that we may apply our hearts unto wisdom".

Est 2:16-18 says, "So Esther (meaning star, i.e., as if Esther was the star of a dramatic skit) was taken unto king Ahasuerus into his house royal in the tenth month, which is the month Tebeth (or Teveth), in the seventh year of his reign. 17 And the king loved Esther above all the women (i.e., representing the wise virgins), and she obtained grace and favour in his sight more than all the virgins (i.e., representing wise and foolish virgins); so that he set the royal crown upon her head, and made her queen (i.e., like the Bride of Christ) instead of Vashti. Then the king made a great feast unto all his princes and his servants, even Esther's feast; and he made a release to the provinces, and gave gifts (i.e., as in Rev 11:10), according to the state of the king. And when the virgins were gathered together the second time, (as in the second Rapture) then Mordecai (an Israelite, representing the 144,000 Israelites) sat in the king’s gate."

In the Bible, when a month is mentioned, but no day is indicated, it means the first day of the month. This is because the word for month is also the word for new moon, which is the first of the month. Therefore, in Esther 2:16, Esther, representing the wise virgins, was taken into the king's royal house on Teveth 1. This may indicate that the First-Trump Rapture will be on Teveth 1, Friday, Dec. 14, 2012.

Rev_4:1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither".

Rev 11:1,2 says, "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise (egeiro, lift up) , and measure the temple of God (i.e., we are the Temple of the Holy Spirit, which is God), and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months" (i.e., the Great Tribulation, the last half of the 2300-day Tribulation (Dan. 8:13,14).

Dan 8:13-17 says, "Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? 14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed. 15 And it came to pass, when I, even I Daniel, had seen the vision, and sought for the meaning, then, behold, there stood before me as the appearance of a man. 16 And I heard a man's voice between the banks of Ulai, which called, and said, Gabriel, make this man to understand the vision. 17 So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision."

If the first half of the 2300-day Tribulation is 1260 days (i.e., estimated time), the last part, the Great Tribulation, will be 1040 days. I think the Day of God's Wrath will be on the Feast of Trumpets, Sept. 14, 2015. Counting back 1040 days brings us to Nov. 8, 2012, which has just passed. The First-Trump Rapture seems overdue. It can't be long now.

Esther was taken into the king's house on Teveth 1. Maybe the First-Trump Rapture will take place on Teveth 1, Dec 14, 2012, and the Last-Trump Rapture will take place on Tishri 1, 5776, Mon. Sept. 14, 2015. We should know soon.

1Th 4:14-17 says, "For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent (Old English for precede) them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."

People that parrot Mt 24:36 don't understand. They can't get past the day that Jesus gave the Olivet Discourse, when he said, “of that day and hour knoweth no man". Knoweth is present tense. No one knew on Tuesday, Nisan 11, 3790 (Hebrew), April 4, 30 AD (Julian), two days before the Crucifixion on Thursday, Nisan 13, 3790 (Hebrew), April 6, 30 AD (Julian).

We are supposed to watch. Rev 3:3 says, "If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee." Then what can happen if we do watch?

Hag 2:18,19 says, "Consider (sum labab, take it to heart) now from this day (Kislev 24, the Eve of Hanukkah) and UPWARD, from the four and twentieth day of the ninth month (Kislev 24, the Eve of Hanukkah), even from the day that the foundation (i.e., Jesus) of the LORD'S temple was laid (i.e., Jesus was conceived on Kislev 24), consider it. 19 Is the seed (zera, seed or child, i.e., Jesus, Gen 3:15) yet in the barn (i.e., a saying meaning is she pregnant)? yea (YES, Jesus was conceived on Kislev 24), as yet the vine (Jesus), and the fig tree (Israel), and the pomegranate (meaning upright), and the olive tree (Israel with us grafted in), hath not brought forth (NASA, lifted up, i.e., not been raptured as of Kislev 24, the Eve of Hanukkah): from (min, AFTER) this day will I bless you."

Hanukkah, the 8-day Feast of Dedication, begins at sunset Saturday, December 8, 2012 and ends at sunset Sunday, December 16, 2012.

Teveth 1, the day the trumpet will be blown, is the 6th day of Hanukkah, Dec. 14, 2012. It may be the day of the Rapture. It might take place during the night of December 13/14. Teveth 1 starts at 6 PM on Dec. 13, my 84th birthday.

Maybe on Teveth 1, Dec. 13/14, "the dead in Christ (i.e., including Ed) shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air." What a happy day that would be. Today is Friday, Nov. 16. The Rapture may be less than a month away. Agape

   PC INDEX   Or Return   Home

Contact me for more information at: mjagee@verizon.net

Send me e-mail now

8641 Sugar Gum Rd, Riverside, CA 92508, USA; (951) 653- 4110

© 1996-2012, Marilyn J. Agee