Pro and Con 1686

Posted 2-16-2013

A MONSTRANCE

I searched for Monstrance on Bing.
At http://www.merhaut.com/Monstrances.asp, it listed
"Roman Monstrance. Depicts God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit."

How does something that looks like the Sun depict God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit?
They are not the Sun god. That Mystery Religion was something that started with Nimrod, Semiramis and Tammuz.

LIGHTNING HIT ST. PETER'S 2-11-13, THE DAY OF POPE BENEDICT'S SURPRISE RESIGNATION

A 10-TON METEOR EXPLODED OVER RUSSIA 2-15-13


Briefly outshining the Sun, the meteor was said to have exploded in the sky with the force of an atomic bomb near Chelyabinsk east of Moscow.
Six cities were hit by the blast, damaging buildings and injuring about 1,100 people, mostly from flying glass. The roof of at least one
building fell. The blast was so powerful it briefly outshone the sun. A piece hit a frozen lake leaving this hole in the ice.

A METEOR ALSO EXPLODED OVER CALIFORNIA

www.mercurynews.com - It may not have been as spectacular as the space snowball that streaked across the skies above
Russia late Thursday, but the Bay Area's close encounter with a meteor Friday night was drawing its own attention.

The object that flashed across the horizon around 8 p.m. was blue in color and visible from the Peninsula
to at least the eastern reaches of Contra Costa County and as far away as Red Bluff.

PEACE DOVES DON'T FLY FAR WHEN THERE'S NO PEACE

Last year, on the annual Holocaust Remembrance Day, the Pope released two peace doves. Both immediately turned back and flew in the window.
This year, on Jan. 27, 2013, he said, "Now, let's release the doves, symbols of the Spirit of God who gives peace to those who welcome
his love." One peace dove turned back. The other one was immediately attacked by a seagull, but it made it back ok.

MY REPLY TO A POST ON FIVE DOVES, "WHY JEWS MUST BELIEVE IN JESUS, BY BROTHER NATHANAEL"

http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=791

> > Rev. 6:2 "behold a white horse and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer."

> > The one on the white horse was given a crown. Is the antichrist given a crown? What does the bow represent? Remember Noah? The covenant was confirmed with a [rain]bow. So, how does this one sitting on a white horse go conquering?

> > It is the Holy Spirit conquering. In Zechariah 4:6 "This is the word of the Lord unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, not by power, but by my spirit, saith the Lord of hosts." A sharp two-edged sword...the word of God.

> > I think Matthew Henry agrees with me...I have his commentary.

http://69.37.48.6/mbbweb/BibleStudy/14TheSevenSeals.pdf
"Matthew Henry: He had a bow in his hand. The convictions impressed by the word of God are sharp arrows, they reach at a distance; and, though the ministers of the word draw the bow at a venture, God can and will direct it to the joints of the harness. This bow, in the hand of Christ, abides in strength, and, like that of Jonathan, never returns empty."

That makes no sense to me at all. He must not have looked up the Greek word. It is toxon, From the base of G5088; a bow (apparently as the simplest fabric): - bow.

This is a piece of fabric. Fabric signifies that this person is a man of the cloth, a religious leader. The Pope also wears lots of fabric clothing.

Mat_7:15 says, "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."

As a badge of his office, the Pope wears a Pallium made out of wool (i.e., sheep's clothing).

Popes call themselves Pontifex Maximus, the supreme Pontiff, the supreme pathfinder or bridge maker, the High Priest. This started with Nimrod at the Tower of Babel.

Babylonian kings were both king and priest of the Satanic Babylonian Mystery religion set up by Nimrod (meaning we will defy), Semiramis and Tammuz (meaning secret, concealed, consumed). Nimrod and Tammuz (born Dec. 25), who was supposed to have been killed by a wild boar and resurrected, were worshipped as Sun gods. Semiramis (meaning highest heaven) and Tammuz were worshipped as Madonna (meaning my lady) and Child.

Belshazzar was slain the night of the Handwriting on the Wall. God showed his displeasure.

Dan 5:25-28 says, "And this is the writing that was written, MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN. 26 This is the interpretation of the thing: MENE; God hath numbered thy kingdom, and finished it. 27 TEKEL; Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting. 28 PERES; Thy kingdom is divided, and given to the Medes and Persians."

After that, the Persian Emperor Cyrus took over and the Babylonian princes fled to Pergamos and continued to rule on Satan's throne. The literal throne from Pergamos, the Altar of Zeus (which means father of Gods and men), is now in the Pergamon Museum in Berlin.


In Rev 2:12-16, Jesus said, "to the angel of the church in Pergamos write; These things saith he which hath the sharp sword with two edges; 13 I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even WHERE SATAN'S SEAT (thronos, throne) IS: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, WHERE SATAN DWELLETH. 14 But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication. 15 So hast thou also them that hold the DOCTRINE OF THE NICOLAITANS (setting up a hierarchy in the church), WHICH THING I HATE. 16 Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth." 17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it."

Continuing in Rev 2:18-29, Jesus said, "And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira (thoroughly married, i.e., the Roman Church which set up a hierarachy) write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass; 19 I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; AND THE LAST TO BE MORE THAN THE FIRST. 20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel (i.e., idolatrous wife of king Ahab), which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. 21 And I GAVE HER SPACE TO REPENT (probably the first half of the Tribulation) OF HER FORNICATION; AND SHE REPENTED NOT. 22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery (i.e., join) with her into GREAT TRIBULATION (i.e., shortened last half of the Tribulation), except they repent of their deeds. 23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. 24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the DEPTHS OF SATAN, AS THEY SPEAK; I will put upon you none other burden. 25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come. 26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: 27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father. 28 And I will give him the morning star. 29 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches."

Saturn will be a morning star on May 5, 2013, Ascension Day.

After the death of Belshazzar in 539 B.C., the Persian Emperor Cyrus conquered Babylon and forced the Babylonian princes to flee to Pergamos. They continued their reign there as priest-kings of the pagan religion of Babylon until Attalus III willed his dominions to Rome in 133 BC.

In 376 AD, the Roman emperor Gratian refused the title and gave that throne and title to the bishop of Rome. In 378 AD, Bishop Damasus was elected Pontifex Maximus.

Nimrod and Tammuz (Eze 8:14-18) were worshiped as the Sun god in the pagan Mystery Religion of Babylon. One badge of office of this pagan religion seems to be Nimrod's red cape. It is still worn by the Pope, the "pater patrum", i.e., the father of the fathers. Another badge of office of the pagan religion is the miter of Dagon, the fish-god. It looks like the head of a fish with its mouth open.

In Mat_23:9, Jesus said, "And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven."

Also, Jesus is "Called of God an HIGH PRIEST after the order of Melchisedec" in Heb 5:10.

Heb_6:20 Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even JESUS, made an HIGH PRIEST FOR EVER after the order of Melchisedec."

Heb_8:1 Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an HIGH PRIEST, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens".

Heb_9:11 But CHRIST being come an HIGH PRIEST of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building".

DANGEROUS WORDS

Pope Leo XIII said, "We hold upon this earth the place of GOD ALMIGHTY."

Pope Gregory IX said, "Wherefore, if those things that I do, be said to be done not of man, but of God; what can you make me but GOD".

That is even worse. These popes made themselves out to be much more than they really were. Considering the power of the Almighty God, this is not wise.

> > So, how does this one sitting on a white horse go conquering?

He conquers in the name of peace. Pope Benedict signed a peace agreement with the Muslims on April 27, 2009. He has visited them and prayed toward Mecca with them in Istanbul's Blue Mosque. He has visited the Dome of the Rock to pick out a place for his throne there. Lately, he has been given a seat in the Upper Room in Jerusalem. Until he decided to retire, he seemed to want to be head of all religions, not just Christians.

He showed his true colors when he visited Lebanon.

"Pope urges religions to root out fundamentalism"
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-19594442
Jim Muir, BBC News, Beirut, 14 September 2012

"Pope Benedict XVI has called on Christians, Muslims and Jews to "root out" religious fundamentalism, on the first day of his trip to Lebanon....

"During his stay, the pontiff met with politicians and leaders from Lebanon's 18 religious groups, many of whom are divided over the conflict in Syria....

"He was welcomed at Beirut airport by Lebanon's President Michel Suleiman with a 21-gun salute, and with church bells ringing out around the country.

"The Pope told President Suleiman he was visiting the country as a "PILGRIM OF PEACE".

"He added: 'The successful way the Lebanese all live together surely demonstrates to the whole Middle East and to the rest of the world that, within a nation, there can exist co-operation between the various churches and at the same time coexistence and respectful dialogue between Christians and their brethren of other religions.'"

fundamentalism (bing.com dictionary):
1.movement with strict view of doctrine: a religious or political movement based on a literal interpretation of and strict adherence to doctrine, especially as a return to former principles 2.support for literal explanation: the belief that religious or political doctrine should be implemented literally, not interpreted or adapted.

1Th_5:3 says, "For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape."

Dan 8:23-25 says, "And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance (i.e., the False Prophet), and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up. 24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people. 25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and BY PEACE SHALL DESTROY MANY: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand."

THE DRAGON, THE BEAST, AND THE FALSE PROPHET

Rev_13:1-10 says, "And I stood upon the sand of the sea (i.e., the so-called Holy See), and saw a beast (Satan) rise up out of the sea (nations, Rev 17:15), having seven heads (Babel, Babylon II, Media-Persia, Greece, Holy Roman Empire, Ecclesiastical Roman Empire, and Babylon III) and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns (i.e., then it is during the Tribulation), and upon his heads (i.e., all 7, from Nimrod to the False Prophet) the name of blasphemy (i.e., Pontifex Maximus). And the beast which I saw was like unto a LEOPARD (leader of Greece, Dan 7:6), and his feet were as the feet of a BEAR (leader of Media-Persia, Dan 7:5), and his mouth as the mouth of a LION (Babylon III): and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat (thronos, throne, i.e., which was willed to Rome by Attalus III, last leader of Pergamos), and great authority. 3 And I saw one of his heads (i.e., Holy Roman Empire) as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed (i.e., the power went to the Ecclesiastical Holy Roman Empire): and all the world wondered after the beast. 4 And they worshipped the dragon (Satan) which gave power unto the beast (i.e., the Ecclesiastical Roman Empire): and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? (i.e., the Pope) who is able to make war with him?" (i.e., not many would try that). 5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and THEM THAT DWELL IN HEAVEN (i.e., THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE HAS ALREADY TAKEN PLACE, and the Pope was left behind). 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints (including the foolish virgins left behind), and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And ALL THAT DWELL UPON THE EARTH SHALL WORSHIP HIM, WHOSE NAMES ARE NOT WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE OF THE LAMB slain from the foundation of the world. 9 If any man have an ear, let him hear. 10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints."

Rev 13:11-18 speaks of the False Prophet. It says, "And I beheld another beast (Satan) coming up out of the earth (where he was put in Rev 12:9); and he had two horns (i.e., 2 comings to power, in Judas Iscariot and the False Prophet) like a lamb (Christ), and he spake as a dragon (Satan). 12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast (i.e., the Antichrist) before (enopion, in the presence or sight of) him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. 13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, 14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. 15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. 16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."

Dan_7:23 says, "The fourth beast (1. Babylon II, 2. Media-Persia, 3. Greece, and 4. Holy shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces."

Rev_16:13 says, "And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet."

Rev_19:20 says, "And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone."

Rev_20:10 says, "And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever." Agape

A POST ON FIVE DOVES

Ted Porter (15 Feb 2013), "Re: JFH / Marilyn Agee and Bow and Bo revisited"

Dear Marilyn Agee, thanks for your response. I'm interested to know what others think. I choose to believe that the bow is not just a piece of fabric but the New Covenant [rain]bow reminiscent of Noah's rainbow covenant from God.

MY REPLY

Then who do you think the man sitting on a white horse is?

Rev 6:1,2 says, "And I saw when the Lamb (i.e., Christ) opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. 2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow (toxon); and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer."

I accept what Strong's Concordance says.

Strong's says G5115 toxon is from the base of G5088 (tikto); a bow (apparently as the simplest fabric): - bow.

I take that to mean that this man is a man of the cloth, a religious leader, a member of the clergy.

Mat_7:15 says, "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."

As a badge of his office, the Pope wears a pallium made out of wool from two specially raised sheep.

I can't get rainbow out of any of that.

Gen 9:13 says, "I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth."

There is a rainbow around the throne of Jesus on Saturn.

Eze 1:1 says, "I saw visions of God."

Eze 1:26-28 says, "And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a THRONE, as the appearance of a sapphire stone (meaning dear to the planet Saturn, from the Sanskrit Sani, Saturn, and priya, dear): and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man (Jesus, the only God/man) above upon it. 27 And I saw as the colour of amber, as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins (i.e., from the equator) even upward, and from the appearance of his loins even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness (i.e., Saturn's rings) round about. 28 As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD." Heaven has a halo.

Rev_4:3 says, "And he (i.e., Jesus) that sat was to look upon like a jasper (first stone in the breastplate) and a sardine stone (last stone in the breastplate, i.e., Jesus is the FIRST and the LAST): and there was a RAINBOW round about the throne (i.e., there are rings around Saturn), in sight like unto an emerald (Judah's stone in the breastplate, i.e., Jesus is the Lion of the Tribe of Judah)."

In Rev_22:13, Jesus said, "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last."

Rev_5:5 says, "And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda (Jesus), the Root of David (i.e., he is both YHWH and Jesus), hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof."

Jesus is also the lamb of God. Joh_1:36 says, "And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the Lamb of God!"

Who do you think the beast and false prophet are?

Rev_13:1-4 says, "And I stood upon the sand of the sea ('peoples, and multitudes, and NATIONS, and tongues,' Rev 17:15), and saw A BEAST rise up out of the sea (nations, Rev 17:15), having seven heads (Babel, Babylon II, Media-Persia, Greece, Holy Roman Empire, Ecclesiastical Roman Empire, and Babylon III) and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads (i.e., all 7) the name of blasphemy (PONTIFEX MAXIMUS). 2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard (Greece, Rev 7:6), and his feet were as the feet of a bear (Media-Persia, Dan 7:5), and his mouth as the mouth of a lion (Babylon II, Dan 7:4): and the dragon (Satan) gave him his power, and his seat (thronos, which was at Pergamos and then willed to Rome), and great authority. 3 And I saw one of his heads (Holy Roman Empire) as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed (i.e., it became the Ecclesiastical Holy Roman Empire): and all the world wondered after the beast. 4 And they worshipped the dragon (Satan) which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?"

No one makes war with the Pope.

Rev_13:11,12 says, "And I beheld ANOTHER BEAST coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb (i.e., two comings to power like Christ, one in Judas Iscariot, the 1st son of perdition, the other in the False Prophet, the last son of perdition), and he spake as a dragon (Satan). 12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him (i.e., then he may also be a Pope), and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed."

At the time of the First-Trump Rapture, Rev 17:14 says, "he (i.e., Christ) is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that ARE WITH HIM are called, and chosen, and faithful."

At the time of the First-Trump Rapture, Rev 17:10 says, "And there are seven kings: five are fallen (leaders of Babel, Babylon II, Media-Persia, Greece and the Holy Roman Empire), and one is (the Pope, leader of the Ecclesiastical Holy Roman Empire), and the other (False Prophet, leader of Babylon III) is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space" (i.e., the shortened Great Tribulation).

Pro_10:27 says, "The fear of the LORD prolongeth days: but the years of the wicked shall be shortened. "

Mat_24:22 says, "And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened".

Mar_13:20 says, "And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days." Agape

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