Pro and Con 1692

Posted 3-20-13

ANOTHER OF GOD'S WONDERS, A BIRD OF PARADISE RAGGIANA

MY REPLY TO A POST ON FIVE DOVES

> > concerning the word apostasia in 2 Thess. 2: 3. The argument is does this mean a falling away from the faith or does it mean a departure as in a Rapture? What the Lord has convicted me of concerning this passage is that it is clearly speaking of a forsaking of the true gospel and doctrine of Christ, and not a Rapture. A Rapture is coming, but this passage of scripture is not about the Rapture, rather is concerns itself why the man of sin, the son of perdition is revealed when he is. So if it is permissible that I share what I know is the truth concerning this passage, as I know I have the Holy Spirit teaching me, this is what He has taught me concerning 2 Thess. 2: 1-12 (KJV):

> > Verse one: concerns itself with the entire body of Christ in the air (those saints who have died in Christ and those saints still living on the earth who have survived the great tribulation, where they are caught up in the air just prior to His wrath).

> > Verse two: this verse is understood that we are not to be troubled in mind or in spirit, but can you imagine the fear in those that thought they were to be recipients of His wrath (the day of Christ). We are not to fear them that can kill the body, but rather Him that has power to throw both body and soul into hell. Yes, I say, fear Him (Matt. 10: 28).

> > Verse three: we are exhorted to not allow anyone to deceive us by any means, as "that day" (the day of Christ; His wrath) will not come, except there come a falling away (forsaking/departing from the true gospel and doctrine of Christ) first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition (this is telling us that when the churches in Christendom have come to the full in believing the corrupted gospel, which Paul said would happen, having forsaken or departed from the true gospel message, having turned the truth into a lie, then when God determines that it has come to the full, then that man of sin, the son of perdition would be revealed, as he was on Jan. 20, 2009.

I have some information you might want to consider.

In 2Th 2, verse 15 says to believers, "BRETHREN, STAND FAST". And, yes, verse 3 says, "LET NO MAN DECEIVE YOU BY ANY MEANS".

The Thessalonians were in danger of being deceived. Since we do not want to be deceived, we need to understand this too.

To understand the whole passage, we need to get this straight first:

The DAY OF CHRIST is the day of the First-Trump Rapture. It takes place in Rev 4:1 before Jesus is given the seven-sealed book in Rev 5:7. The first Rapture must take place before the DAY OF THE LORD can come.

The DAY OF THE LORD is the day of the Last-Trump Rapture and the vengeance of the LORD. It starts when the SIXTH SEAL is broken (Rev 6:12,17; 7:14).

THE DAY OF CHRIST IS THE COMING OF JESUS FOR THE BRIDE OF CHRIST

1Co_1:6-8 says, "Even as the testimony of Christ was confirmed in you: 7 So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for THE COMING OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST: Who shall also confirm you unto the end, that ye may be blameless in THE DAY OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST."

1Co_5:5 says, "To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the DAY OF THE LORD JESUS."

2Co_1:14 says, "As also ye have acknowledged us in part, that we are your rejoicing, even as ye also are ours in the DAY OF THE LORD JESUS."

Php_1:10 says, "That ye may approve things that are excellent; that ye may be sincere and without offence till the DAY OF CHRIST".

Php_2:16 says, "Holding forth the word of life; that I may rejoice in the DAY OF CHRIST, that I have not run in vain, neither laboured in vain."

The DAY OF CHRIST now seems to be right after Satan and his fallen angels are cast out of Heaven about Mid-Trib.

Rev 12:6-9 says," And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days (i.e., the duration of the Great Tribulation before it is shortened). And there was WAR IN HEAVEN: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."

THE DAY OF THE LORD IS THE DAY OF GOD'S WRATH

Isa_2:12 says, "For the DAY OF THE LORD OF HOSTS shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low".

Isa_13:6 says, "Howl ye; for the DAY OF THE LORD is at hand; IT SHALL COME AS A DESTRUCTION FROM THE ALMIGHTY."

Isa_13:9 says, "Behold, the DAY OF THE LORD cometh, cruel both with WRATH and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it."

Isa_34:8 says, "For it is the DAY OF THE LORD'S VENGEANCE, and the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion" (i.e., Jerusalem).

Jer_46:10 says, "For this is the DAY OF THE LORD GOD OF HOSTS, A DAY OF VENGEANCE, that he may avenge him of his adversaries: and the sword shall devour, and it shall be satiate and made drunk with their blood: FOR THE LORD GOD OF HOSTS HATH A SACRIFICE IN THE NORTH COUNTRY BY THE RIVER EUPHRATES."

Lam_2:22 says, "Thou hast called as in a solemn day my terrors round about, so that in the DAY OF THE LORD'S ANGER none escaped nor remained: those that I have swaddled and brought up hath mine enemy consumed."

Eze_13:5 says, "Ye have not gone up into the gaps, neither made up the hedge for the house of Israel to stand in the battle in the DAY OF THE LORD."

Eze_30:3 says, "For the day is near, even the DAY OF THE LORD is near, a cloudy day; it shall be the time of the heathen."

Joe_1:15 says, "Alas for the day! for the DAY OF THE LORD is at hand, and AS A DESTRUCTION FROM THE ALMIGHTY SHALL IT COME."

Joe_2:1 says, "Blow ye the TRUMPET in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the DAY OF THE LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand".

Joe_2:11 says, "And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word: for the DAY OF THE LORD IS GREAT AND VERY TERRIBLE; and who can abide it?"

Joe_2:31 says, "The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the TERRIBLE DAY OF THE LORD come."

Rev 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the SIXTH SEAL, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood".

Rev 6:17 For the great DAY OF HIS WRATH is come; and who shall be able to stand?

Joe_3:14 says, "Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the DAY OF THE LORD is near in the valley of decision."

Amo_5:18 says, "Woe unto you that desire the DAY OF THE LORD! to what end is it for you? the DAY OF THE LORD IS DARKNESS, and not light."

Amo_5:20 says, "Shall not the DAY OF THE LORD BE DARKNESS, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it?"

Oba_1:15 says, "For the DAY OF THE LORD is near upon all the heathen: as thou hast done, it shall be done unto thee: thy reward shall return upon thine own head."

Zep_1:7 says, "Hold thy peace at the presence of the Lord GOD: for the DAY OF THE LORD is at hand: for THE LORD HATH PREPARED A SACRIFICE, he hath bid his guests".

Zep_1:8 says, "And it shall come to pass in the DAY OF THE LORD'S SACRIFICE, that I will punish the princes, and the king's children, and all such as are clothed with strange apparel."

Zep_1:14 says, "The great DAY OF THE LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the DAY OF THE LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly."

Zep_1:18 says, "Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them in the DAY OF THE LORD'S WRATH; but the whole land shall be devoured by the fire of his jealousy: for he shall make even a speedy riddance of all them that dwell in the land."

Zep_2:2 says, "Before the decree bring forth, before the day pass as the chaff, before the FIERCE ANGER OF THE LORD come upon you, before the DAY OF THE LORD'S ANGER come upon you."

Zep_2:3 says, "Seek ye the LORD, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: IT MAY BE YE SHALL BE HID IN THE DAY OF THE LORD'S ANGER."

Zec_14:1 says, "Behold, the DAY OF THE LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee."

Mal_4:5 says, "Behold, I WILL SEND YOU ELIJAH THE PROPHET BEFORE THE COMING OF THE GREAT AND DREADFUL DAY OF THE LORD".

Act_2:20 says, "The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable DAY OF THE LORD come".

1Th_5:2 says, "For yourselves know perfectly that the DAY OF THE LORD so cometh as a thief in the night."

2Pe_3:10 says, "But the DAY OF THE LORD will come as a thief in the night; in the which THE HEAVENS SHALL PASS AWAY WITH A GREAT NOISE, AND THE ELEMENTS SHALL MELT WITH FERVENT HEAT, THE EARTH ALSO and the works that are therein shall be burned up."

THE FIRST TRUMP IS ON THE DAY OF CHRIST

I Thess 4:13-18 says, "But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent (phthano, precede) them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with THE TRUMP of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words."

Those caught up in the first Rapture are not yet made immortal. All, including Paul, will become immortal at the last Rapture.

THE LAST TRUMP IS ON THE DAY OF THE LORD

I Cor 15:51-54 says, "Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at THE LAST TRUMP: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and THIS MORTAL MUST PUT ON IMMORTALITY. 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory."

2TH 2:1,2: DAY OF CHRIST OR DAY OF THE LORD?

2Th 2:1,2 (KJV) says, "Now we beseech you, brethren, by the COMING OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, and by our gathering together unto him (i.e., at the FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE), 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the DAY OF CHRIST (i.e., it should be the day of the Lord, which is at the LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE) is at hand."

In Tischendorf's New Testament, his note at 2Thess 2:2 says, "SVA say 'DAY OF THE LORD'.

This means that the Sinaitic Codex, Vatican Codex, and Alexandrine Codex all say "DAY OF THE LORD". The Sinaitic Codex and the Vatican Codex were translated before the KJV of 1611, but were discovered after the King James Translation was published.

The Sinaitic Codex, found in 1844 and 1859, was probably one of the 50 copies Constantine directed to be made in 331 AD. The Vatican Codex dates back at least to 1475. The Alexandrine Codex dates back to 1628. It was given to King Charles the First.

THE KJV SAYS

Continuing in 2 Th 2, verses 3-5 say, "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day (i.e., the DAY OF THE LORD) shall not come, except there come a FALLING AWAY (i.e., DEPARTING, the FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE) FIRST, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

THE FIRST SEVEN ENGLISH BIBLES (OLDER THAN THE KJV) SAID DEPARTING

1. Wycliffe Bible (1330) has "departynge first"
2. Tyndale Bible (1525/26) has "departynge first"
3. Coverdale Bible 1535) has "departynge first"
4. Crammer Bible (1539) has "departynge first"
5. Geneva Bible (1560) has "departing first"
6. Breeches Bible (1583) has "departing first"
7. Beza Bible (1583) has "departing first"

Theodore Beza was the first to transliterate apostasia and create a new word rather than translate it. The King James Version was the first to pick up on that and render apostasia as "falling away," ignoring what the English Bibles published previously said.

For me, departing makes more sense than falling away. There has always been apostasy. How could we pick out a certain period of apostasy? I expect the Rapture soon. Is there any special apostasy today that would show us that the Rapture is imminent? When the Rapture takes place, the whole world will probably find out about it right away. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Luk 12:42-46 says, "And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season? 43 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. 44 Of a truth I say unto you, that he will make him ruler over all that he hath. 45 But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken; 46 The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion (i.e., of the Great Tribulation) with the unbelievers."

Mat 24:51 adds, "And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites (i.e., pretenders): there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

Mat 22:10-14 says, "So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests. 11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment: 12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless. 13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 14 For MANY ARE CALLED, BUT FEW ARE CHOSEN."

Of the time of the first Rapture, Rev 17:12-14 says, "And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast (i.e., the False Prophet). 13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. 14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: AND THEY THAT ARE WITH HIM ARE CALLED, AND CHOSEN, AND FAITHFUL."

The first Rapture, departure, is in I Thess 4:13-18.

The second Rapture, departure, is seen in I Cor 15:51-54 and Rev 18:4.

Rev 18:2-4 says, "Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. 3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication (i.e., joined) with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. 4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, COME OUT OF HER, MY PEOPLE, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues."

There are two departures. Then the asteroid Wormwood (Rev 8:11), Satan's home (Isa 22:16-19), will hit Babylon. Rev 18:21 says, "And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all."

2Th 2:1-4 (KJV) says, "Now we beseech you, brethren (i.e., believers), by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him (i.e., in the First-Trump Rapture), 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ (i.e., should be day of the Lord) is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away (i.e., should be departure) first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God."

COMING EVENTS

1. Satan and the fallen angels cast out of Heaven
2. First-Trump Rapture
3. False Prophet Revealed and indwelt by Satan
4. Last-Trump Rapture
5. God's Wrath, Destruction

THE FIRST DEPARTURE

2Ti 4:6-9 says, "For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of MY DEPARTURE (analusis) is at hand. 7 I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith: 8 Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but UNTO ALL THEM ALSO THAT LOVE HIS APPEARING."

Rev 4:1-4 says, "After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, COME UP HITHER, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter. 2 And immediately I was (lit., became) in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne. 3 And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper (last stone in the breastplate) and a sardine stone (first stone in the breastplate, i.e., Jesus is both the first and the last): and there was a rainbow (i.e., Saturn's rings) round about the throne (on Saturn, Eze 1:1,26-28), in sight like unto an emerald (Judah's stone in the breastplate, and Jesus is the Lion of the Tribe of Judah). 4 And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders (12 patriarchs and 12 apostles of Israel) sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads CROWNS of gold."

Jerome's Latin translation known as the Vulgate from around the time of AD 400 renders apostasia with the word discessio, meaning "departure."

2 Thessalonians 2:1-8, Wycliffe Bible says, "But, brethren, we pray you by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and of our congregation into the same coming [into the same thing], 2 that ye be not moved soon from your wit, neither be afeared [neither be aghast], neither by spirit, neither by word, neither by epistle as sent by us, as if the DAY OF THE LORD be nigh. 3 [That] No man deceive you in any manner. For but dissension come first [For no but DEPARTING away, or dissension, shall come first], and the man of sin be showed, the son of perdition, 4 that is adversary, and is enhanced over [upon] all thing that is said God, or that is worshipped, so that he sit in the temple of God, and show himself as if he were God[a]. 5 Whether ye hold not, that yet when I was at you, I said these things to you? 6 And now what withholdeth [And now what withholdeth him], ye know, that he be showed in his time. 7 For the private of wickedness worketh now [For why the mystery, or private, of wickedness worketh now]; only that he that holdeth now, hold, till he be done away. 8 And then that wicked man shall be showed, whom the Lord Jesus shall slay with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with [the] lightening of his coming [and shall destroy with the illumining, or shining, of his coming]".

2Th 2:1-8 in the Tyndale Bible (1525/26) says, "We beseche you brethren by the commynge of oure lorde Iesu Christ and in that WE SHALL ASSEMBLE UNTO HIM (at the Rapture) 2 that ye be not sodely moved from youre mynde and be not troubled nether by sprete nether by wordes nor yet by letter which shuld seme to come from vs as though the daye of Christ were at honde. 3 Let no ma deceave you by eny meanes for the lorde commeth not excepte ther come a DEPARTYNGE FYRST and that that synfnll man be opened ye sonne of perdicion 4 which is an adversarie and is exalted above all that is called god or that is worshipped: so that he shall sitt as God in temple of god and shew him silfe as god. 5 Remember ye not that when I was yet with you I tolde you these thynges? 6 And nowe ye knowe what with holdeth: even that he myght be vttered at his tyme. 7 For the mistery of that iniquitie doeth he all readie worke which onlie loketh vntill it be taken out of ye waye. 8 And then shall that wicked be vttered whom the lorde shall consume with the sprete of hys mouth and shall destroye with the apearaunce of his commynge".

2Th 2:1-8 in the Coverdale Bible (1535) says, 2Th 2:1 "We beseke you brethren by the commynge of or LORDE Iesus Christ, and in that WE SHAL ASSEMBLE VNTO HIM (i.e., at the Rapture), 2 that ye be not sodenly moued fro youre mynde, and be not troubled, nether by sprete, nether by wordes, ner yet by letter, which shulde seme to be sent from vs, as though ye daye of Christ were at hande.3 Let noman disceaue you by eny meanes. For the LORDE commeth not, excepte the DEPARTYNGE COME FIRST, and that that Man of synne be opened, euen the sonne of perdicion,4 which is an aduersary, and is exalted aboue all yt is called God or Gods seruyce, so that he sytteth as God in the temple of God, and boasteth himselfe to be God.5 Remembre ye not, that whan I was yet with you, I tolde you these thinges?6 And now ye knowe what witholdeth it, eue that it mighte be vttered at his tyme.7 (For the mystery of the iniquyte worketh allready, tyll he which now onely letteth, be take out of the waye.)8 And then shal that wicked be vttered, whom the LORDE shal cosume with ye sprete of his mouth, & shal destroye with the appearaunce of his commynge:"

2Th 2:1-8 in Cranmer's Bible (The Great Bible) (1539) says, "We beseke you brethren by the commynge of or LORDE Iesus Christ, and in that we shal assemble vnto him, that ye be not sodenly moued fro youre mynde, and be not troubled, nether by sprete, nether by wordes, ner yet by letter, which shulde seme to be sent from vs, as though ye daye of Christ (should be day of the Lord) were at hande. Let noman disceaue you by eny meanes. For the LORDE commeth not, excepte the DEPARTYNGE COME FIRST, and that that Man of synne be opened, euen the sonne of perdicion, which is an aduersary, and is exalted aboue all yt is called God or Gods seruyce, so that he sytteth as God in the temple of God, and boasteth himselfe to be God. Remembre ye not, that whan I was yet with you, I tolde you these thinges? And now ye knowe what witholdeth it, eue that it mighte be vttered at his tyme. (For the mystery of the iniquyte worketh allready, tyll he (the Holy Spirit) which now onely letteth, be take out of the waye [i.e., at the time of the Rapture].) And then shal that wicked be vttered, whom the LORDE shal cosume with ye sprete of his mouth, & shal destroye with the appearaunce of his commynge".

2Th 2:2,3 in the Geneva Bible says, "That ye be not suddenly mooued from your minde, nor troubled neither by spirit, nor by worde, nor by letter, as it were from vs, as though the day of Christ (should be day of the Lord) were at hand. Let no man deceiue you by any meanes: for that day (i.e., the Day of the Lord) shall not come, except there come a DEPARTING first, and that that man of sinne be disclosed, euen the sonne of perdition 4 Which is an aduersarie, and exalteth him selfe against all that is called God, or that is worshipped: so that he doeth sit as God in the Temple of God, shewing him selfe that he is God." (emphasis mine).

ANOTHER TRANSLATION USED "DEPARTURE"

In "The New Testament - An Expanded Translation," Kenneth Wuest, world renowned Greek scholar translates 2 Thess. 2:3 as follows: "Do not allow anyone to lead you astray in any way, because that day shall not come (Second Coming of Christ) except the aforementioned DEPARTURE (rapture of the church to heaven) comes first, AND the man of lawlessness is disclosed (in his true identity), the man of perdition ..."

THE KING JAMES VERSION OF 1611 WAS THE FIRST TO MAKE TWO ERRORS IN 2 THESS 2:3,4

Several modern translations followed in the KJV footsteps, but the World English Bible corrected the second error.

2 Thess 2:3 (WEB) says, "Let no one deceive you in any way. For it will not be, unless the DEPARTURE comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of destruction".

Why was the King James Version the first to depart from the established translation of "departure"? Theodore Beza, the Swiss reformer was the first to transliterate apostasia and create a new word rather than translate it as others had done. The translators of the King James Version were the first to introduce the new rendering of apostasia as " falling away."

Falling away, or apostasy, does not make sense to me. There has been apostasy the whole time. The verb form means separation as in a divorce, i.e., when one person leaves.

The Rapture in 2 Thessalonians 2:3,by Thomas Ice
http://www.raptureready.com/featured/ice/TheRapturein2Thessalonians2_3.html

"The Meaning of Apostasia

"The Greek noun apostasia is only used twice in the New Testament. In addition to 2 Thessalonians 2:3, it occurs in Acts 21:21 where, speaking of Paul, it is said, "that you are teaching all the Jews who are among the Gentiles to forsake (apostasia) Moses." The word is a Greek compound of apo " from" and istemi " stand." Thus, it has the core meaning of " away from" or " departure." The Liddell and Scott Greek Lexicon defines apostasia first as " defection, revolt;" then secondly as " departure, disappearance." [1] Gordon Lewis explains how the verb from which the noun apostasia is derived supports the basic meaning of departure in the following:

"The verb may mean to remove spatially. There is little reason then to deny that the noun can mean such a spatial removal or departure. Since the noun is used only one other time in the New Testament of apostasy from Moses (Acts 21:21), we can hardly conclude that its Biblical meaning is necessarily determined. The verb is used fifteen times in the New Testament. Of these fifteen, only three have anything to do with a departure from the faith (Luke 8;13; 1 Tim. 4:1; Heb 3:12). The word is used for departing from iniquity (2 Tim. 2:19), from ungodly men(1 Tim. 6:5), from the temple (Luke 2:27), from the body (2 Cor. 12:8), and from persons (Acts 12:10; Luke 4:13).[2]

"The Use of the Article
"It is important to note that Paul uses a definite article with the noun apostasia. What does this mean? Davey notes the following: Since the Greek language does not need an article to make the noun definite, it becomes clear that with the usage of the article reference is being made to something in particular. In II Thessalonians 2:3 the word apostasia is prefaced by the definite article which means that Paul is pointing to a particular type of departure clearly known to the Thessalonian church."

Dr. Thomas Ice also has said, "It is with full assurance of proper exegetical study and with complete confidence in the original languages," concludes Daniel Davey, " that the word meaning of apostasia is defined as departure." [3] Paul Lee Tan adds the following:

"What precisely does Paul mean when he says that " the falling away" (2:3) must come before the tribulation? The definite article " the" denotes that this will be a definite event, an event distinct from the appearance of the Man of Sin. The Greek word for " falling away", taken by itself, does not mean religious apostasy or defection. Neither does the word mean " to fall," as the Greeks have another word for that. [pipto, I fall; TDI] THE BEST TRANSLATION OF THE WORD IS "TO DEPART." The apostle Paul refers here to a definite event which he calls " THE DEPARTURE," and which will occur just before the start of the tribulation. This is the rapture of the church.[4]

"So the word has the core meaning of DEPARTURE and it depends upon the context to determine whether it is used to mean physical departure or an abstract departure such as departure from the faith."
(http://www.raptureready.com/featured/ice/TheRapturein2Thessalonians2_3.html)

"Great Falling Away after the Departure of the Church"
By Prof. J.S. Malan, University of the North, South Africa
"The departure (Gr. apostasia) of 2 Thessalonians 2:3 will precede the revelation of the Man of Sin (the Antichrist). The rendering of "apostasia" as "rebellion", "apostasy" or "falling away" in most English Bibles is unfortunate since these are secondary or derived meanings of the word. Its primary meaning is "departure" which, in this verse, refers to the rapture of the church"....

"The Greek word apostasia means departure, withdrawal or separation. A spiritual and moral falling away can be read into this word only as a secondary meaning, deduced from its basic reference to the departure of the truth. Apostasia is derived from the particle apo which means off or away [from something near], in various senses of place, time or relation. It denotes separation, departure, or the cessation [of a relationship]. The verb correlate of apostasia is aphistemi which, according to Strong’s Concordance, means to depart, withdraw, draw (fall) away, remove."

"According to the Liddell and Scott Classical Lexicon, the second meaning of apostasia is "a departing, or a disappearance."... "Before the 1611 King James translation, most of the Bibles translated the phrase "falling away" as "the departing." The following men translated falling away as departure: Lineberry, B.A., Cloverdale (1535), Crammer (1539), Robert Baker (1615), Beza (1565), John Dawson, A.B. says "apostasia" means "a departure from any place." Robert Scott (1811-1887) gives the second meaning of apostasia as "departure, disappearance." (Guy Schwartz (30 Sep 2011)
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