Pro and Con 1705

Posted 4-17-13

PANSIES, ANOTHER OF GOD'S WONDERS

MY REPLY TO AN EMAIL

Re: JUBILEE, 1963-2013: IT'S GOING HOME TIME

> > this YEAR is JUBILEE YEAR 1963 -2013.

To me, that won't work. A Jubilee year must be preceded by a Sabbatical Year. 5775 is a Sabbatical Year. It divides by 7 evenly. Therefore, I think Nisan 1, 5776, Sat. April 9, 2016, the first day of the Jubilee, Regnal and Sacred years, will be the day of the Second Advent of Christ. It's coming should be announced on the preceding Day of Atonement, Sept. 23, 2015.

Lev 25:2-11 says, "Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye come into the land which I give you, then shall the land keep a sabbath unto the LORD. 3 Six years thou shalt sow thy field, and six years thou shalt prune thy vineyard, and gather in the fruit thereof; 4 But in the seventh year shall be a sabbath of rest unto the land, a sabbath for the LORD: thou shalt neither sow thy field, nor prune thy vineyard. 5 That which groweth of its own accord of thy harvest thou shalt not reap, neither gather the grapes of thy vine undressed: for it is a year of rest unto the land. 6 And the sabbath of the land shall be meat for you; for thee, and for thy servant, and for thy maid, and for thy hired servant, and for thy stranger that sojourneth with thee, 7 And for thy cattle, and for the beast that are in thy land, shall all the increase thereof be meat. 8 And thou shalt number seven sabbaths of years unto thee, seven times seven years; and the space of the seven sabbaths of years shall be unto thee forty and nine years. 9 Then shalt thou cause the trumpet of the jubile to sound on the tenth day of the seventh month, in the day of atonement shall ye make the trumpet sound throughout all your land. 10 And ye shall hallow the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof: it shall be a jubile unto you; and ye shall return every man unto his possession, and ye shall return every man unto his family. 11 A jubile shall that fiftieth year be unto you: ye shall not sow, neither reap that which groweth of itself in it, nor gather the grapes in it of thy vine undressed."

> > IT'S GOING HOME TIME

That I can agree with. I am hoping that the First-Trump Rapture will take place on the day after the Holy Fire appears shortly after 2 PM in the Church of the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem on Holy Saturday.

The Lord appeared to Moses in the burning bush (Ex 3:2, Act 7:30), in fire above the Tabernacle (Ex 13:21), and upon Mt. Sinai (Ex 19:18) and he may come to the Temple of the Holy Spirit in the Holy Fire this year.

Heb_12:29 says, "our God is a consuming fire."

Zec 2:4,5 says, "Jerusalem shall be inhabited as towns without walls for the multitude of men and cattle therein: 5 For I, saith the LORD, will be unto her a wall of fire round about, and will be the glory in the midst of her."

1Pe_1:7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with FIRE, might be found unto praise and honour and glory AT THE APPEARING OF JESUS CHRIST".

At 6 PM Hebrew time, Ascension Day and Resurrection Day, the Eastern Orthodox Easter Sunday, May 5, 2013, will begin. That takes perfect planning from the beginning of time. Ascension Day will not be on Sunday again until 2024.

The First-Trump Rapture is on the "Lord's day" (Sunday) (Rev 1:9-11) probably May 5, 2013. The Last-Trump Rapture is on the Day of the Lord, probably Mon. Sept. 14, 2015, the Feast of Trumpets.

The Tetrad of Total Lunar Eclipses near Passover and Tabernacles, follow 2013. The timing seems perfect. The First-Trump Rapture precedes the Tetrad. The Second Advent follows the Tetrad.

2013, possible First-Trump Rapture, Sunday, May 5, Ascension Day, E. Orthodox Easter
2014, TOTAL LUNAR ECLIPSE, April 15 [5774, Nisan 15]
2014, TOTAL LUNAR ECLIPSE, October 08 [5775, Tishri 14]
2015, TOTAL LUNAR ECLIPSE, April 04 [5775, Nisan 15]
2015, possible Last-Trump Rapture, Tishri 1, 5776, Monday, Sept. 14
2015, TOTAL LUNAR ECLIPSE, September 28 [5776, Tishri 15]
2016, possible Second Advent, Nisan 1, 5776, Saturday, April 9, 1st day of Jubilee and Regnal years

> > The Garden Tomb in Jerusalem, a popular site for pilgrims.

It is popular, but I don't think it is the correct burial site. That is in the rotunda of the Church of the Holy Sepulcher. The Holy Fire proves that to me. Agape

A POST ON FIVE DOVES

Lynnette (16 Apr 2013) "May 5, 2013"

Marilyn Agee mentioned May 5, 2013 is Ascension Day
and said it in this letter
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/apr2013/marilyna48-1.htm
She said "This is why I now expect the First-Trump Rapture on Sunday.

FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE ON THE LORD'S DAY, SUNDAY, MAY 5, 2013, Ascension Day and Orthodox Easter
LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE ON THE DAY OF THE LORD, MONDAY, SEPT 14, 2015, Feast of Trumpets" end quote

It relates in an interesting way, because on April 5, 2013, I read a posting by a Dutch Prophet Benjamin Cousjinsen from the LORD revealed" on May 5,2013 the kingdom of darkness would expand even more. Just sharing, Lynnette

MY REPLY

Thanks for the tip. I found this on my first search. It is also interesting that it is dated April 6, the anniversary of the Crucifixion on April 6, 30 AD. Our son was born on April 6 too.

Among other things, it says,
"2 Thessalonians 2, verse 7 and verse 3 Here it is written: For the mystery of lawlessness already works. Only there is one who restrains now, until he is taken out of the way.
And verse 3 Here it is written: Let no one deceive you in any way. For it will not be, unless the departure comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of destruction."

What is so important is the word "DEPARTURE." That is how it should be translated. I have been up all night searching for Bibles that translated it correctly. I will post this and my notes on my Pro and Con 1705. The Rapture comes before the man of sin is revealed. I don't know exactly how he will be revealed, but he will be left behind when the Rapture takes place.

http://endtimeprophecy2012-2013.blogspot.com/2013/04/suddenly-power-of-god-makes-contact.html

"End time Prophecy 2012-2013 Given to end time prophet Benjamin Cousijnsen zaterdag 6 april 2013
"Suddenly, the power of God makes contact!
"Revelation---On May 5th, 2013, the kingdom of darkness will expand even more!
"Published on Apr 6, 2013 by yrd19
"PROPHETIC MESSAGE: VERILY, DON'T BE AFRAID WHEN YOU EXPERIENCE THAT IT BECOMES REALLY TOO DIFFICULT, BECAUSE UNEXPECTEDLY YOU WILL BE SNATCHED AWAY! (CALLED: THE GATHERING, THE RAPTURE) FURTHERMORE, AN IMPORTANT REVELATION OF GOD!
Please share and do not change © BC
"Full view:

"Hello, welcome! On April 5th, 2013, the messenger angel of God brought on the following message to Benjamin Cousijnsen.

"Shalom, prophet Benjamin Cousijnsen! I greet you in the name of Yeshua HaMashiach, Jesus Christ. Verily, verily, I tell you, Benjamin, look up, then you'll see it.

"You're seeing many people, sitting before the television; they are being brainwashed.
This is very normal nowadays. Everything, about which one formerly dared to say nothing, has now become already normal and acceptable for conversation. Nothing is still taboo now!
In the beginning one is still getting a blush, and one is still shocked by it. But by looking at it again and again, one gets used to it, and in the end it is accepted as normal.
"Read aloud: 2 Thessalonians 2, verse 7 and verse 3 Here it is written: For the mystery of lawlessness already works. Only there is one who restrains now, until he is taken out of the way.
And verse 3 Here it is written: Let no one deceive you in any way. For it will not be, unless the departure comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of destruction.
The messenger angel of God spoke further,

"Verily, I reveal to you: On May 5th, 2013, the kingdom of darkness will expand even more!
It's your choice whether you'll listen. Two things can happen: either you'll do nothing, and then will be influenced by the kingdom of darkness and be taken over, or you'll take action in the name of Yeshua HaMashiach, Jesus Christ. Verily, if you don't make the right choice, you will perish! So, you do have to choose: either for or against Yeshua HaMashiach, Jesus Christ.
The great falling away has begun!

"Verily, I speak the following in imagery...
Elisabeth had a very hard time in her life, and said: "The only solution for me is, that I listen to the messages of prophet Benjamin Cousijnsen, because I often feel, by listening to the messages, that I learn how to have a contact with the Lord Jesus Christ and learn a lot more to walk in the light of Jesus Christ.

"Read aloud: 1 John 2, verse 7 and 9 and 10 Here it is written: Brothers, I write no new commandment to you, but an old commandment which you had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which you heard from the beginning. "He who says he is in the light and hates his brother, is in the darkness even until now. He who loves his brother remains in the light, and there is no occasion for stumbling in him.
The messenger angel of God spoke further,

"Verily, don't be afraid if you find, that it really becomes too difficult, because unexpectedly you will be snatched away.
Just compare it with the force of a magnet, getting closer and closer, and suddenly makes contact.

"Read aloud: Zechariah 14, verse 4, Luke 1, verse 32 and 33, Isaiah 2, verse 4, and Isaiah 9, verse 7 I'll start with
Zechariah 14, verse 4 Here it is written: His feet will stand in that day on the Mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east; and the Mount of Olives will be split in two, from east to west, making a very great valley. Half of the mountain will move toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
Luke 1, verse 32 and 33 Here it is written: He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father, David, and he will reign over the house of Jacob forever. There will be no end to his Kingdom.
Isaiah 2, verse 4 Here it is written: He will judge between the nations, And will decide concerning many peoples; And they shall beat their swords into plowshares, And their spears into pruning-hooks. Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, Neither shall they learn war any more.
Isaiah 9, verse 7 Here it is written: Of the increase of his government and of peace there shall be no end, on the throne of David, and on his kingdom, to establish it, and to uphold it with justice and with righteousness from that time on, even forever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.
The messenger angel of God spoke further,

"Verily, at the moment when one says: "I told you, that Yeshua HaMashiach, Jesus Christ is not coming?" He will strike unexpectedly!
Verily, I'm going now, Ruacha, Jeshu, Shalom! spoke the messenger angel of God, and disappeared.

"SHALOM! The Lord bless you

"Note: Full text display for the deaf, hearing impaired and speakers of other languages... Use like Google Translate and bookmark it. Copyright: Dear people, spread this message without making changes!

"ALERT! Obama will soon ensure that these messagesare removed from the Internet, therefore print and burn DVD as soon as possible - Benjamin. "More videos, in English, Spanish, German, Indonesian, Pilipino and Dutch, go to: http://www.youtube.com/user/eindtijdspace/videos

"MORE: http://eindtijdnieuws.blogspot.nl/p/prophecy-2012-2013.html and http://endtimeprophecy2012-2013.blogspot.nl/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------
"PROPHECIES GIVEN TO BENJAMIN COUSIJNSEN These prophetic messages have been given 100% by the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. In early 2012, the Lord has been warning everyone in recent times through His messenger angels, who deliver the revelations and prophetic messages to His beloved prophet Benjamin Cousijnsen. By God Himself, he is appointed as His simple prophet of the end times. In the presence of a messenger angel of God, Benjamin Cousijnsen writes down everything, word for word. They come always in the name of Jesus Christ, also called Yeshua HaMashiach in Hebrew. Please help us to pass on these important messages. Translate it into other languages that you know. Send, copy and paste it without changing the original content, so that it will spread around worldwide. The Lord's Coming is very near, and the Lord Jesus Christ warns humanity more than ever, to hear the voice calling in the last days: "Prepare the way of the Lord, make His paths straight!" Prepare yourself! All these words are from the Lord God and Jesus Christ. Time is short!"

THE KJV HAS TWO ERRORS IN 2 THESS 2:1-3

By Marilyn Agee

1st error: "the day of Christ" should be THE DAY OF THE LORD, the day of the Last-Trump Rapture.
2nd error: the "falling away" should be DEPARTING, or DEPARTURE, the day of the First-Trump Rapture.

"The Liddell and Scott Greek Lexicon defines apostasia (translated as "falling away") first as "defection, revolt;" then secondly as "departure, disappearance."

I am convinced that "he apostasia" should be translated as "THE DEPARTING". In other words, the Rapture has to take place BEFORE the man of sin, the False Prophet, is revealed.

2Th 2:1-3 (KJV) says, "Now we beseech you, brethren (believers), by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by OUR GATHERING TOGETHER UNTO HIM (i.e., at the First-Trump Rapture), 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the DAY OF CHRIST(the Siniatic Codex, the Vatican Codex, and the Alexandrine Codex, all older than the KJV, have DAY OF THE LORD). 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day (Day of the Lord) shall not come, except there come a falling away (should be a DEPARTING, i.e., the First-Trump Rapture) FIRST, and that man of sin be revealed (SECOND), the son of perdition".

The RSV has "DAY OF THE LORD" and "FALLING AWAY".
The ESV haS "DAY OF THE LORD" and "REBELLION".
The NASB and DBY have "DAY OF THE LORD" and "APOSTASY".

The TNT and WYC have "DEPARTURE".
The GEN, WEB, and AMP have it in footnotes.

Seven Bibles older than the KJV had DEPARTING.

1. Wycliffe Bible (1330) has "departynge first"
2. Tyndale Bible (1525/26) has "departynge first"
3. Coverdale Bible 1535) has "departynge first"
4. Crammer Bible (1539) has "departynge first"
5. Geneva Bible (1560) has "departing first"
6. Breeches Bible (1583) has "departing first"
7. Beza Bible (1583) has departing

Jerome' s Latin translation, the Vulgate, c. 400 AD, translated apostasia as discessio, meaning DEPARTURE.

Theodore Beza was the first to transliterate apostasia and create a new word rather than translate it. The King James Version was the first to pick up on that and render apostasia as "falling away," ignoring what the English Bibles published previously said.

2Th 2:1-8 in the Tyndale Bible (1525/26) says, "We beseche you brethren by the commynge of oure lorde Iesu Christ and in that WE SHALL ASSEMBLE UNTO HIM (at the Rapture) 2 that ye be not sodely moved from youre mynde and be not troubled nether by sprete nether by wordes nor yet by letter which shuld seme to come from vs as though the daye of Christ were at honde. 3 Let no ma deceave you by eny meanes for the lorde commeth not excepte ther come a DEPARTYNGE FYRST and that that synfnll man be opened ye sonne of perdicion 4 which is an adversarie and is exalted above all that is called god or that is worshipped: so that he shall sitt as God in temple of god and shew him silfe as god. 5 Remember ye not that when I was yet with you I tolde you these thynges? 6 And nowe ye knowe what with holdeth: even that he myght be vttered at his tyme. 7 For the mistery of that iniquitie doeth he all readie worke which onlie loketh vntill it be taken out of ye waye. 8 And then shall that wicked be vttered whom the lorde shall consume with the sprete of hys mouth and shall destroye with the apearaunce of his commynge".

2Th 2:1-8 in the Coverdale Bible (1535) says, 2Th 2:1 "We beseke you brethren by the commynge of or LORDE Iesus Christ, and in that WE SHAL ASSEMBLE VNTO HIM (i.e., at the Rapture), 2 that ye be not sodenly moued fro youre mynde, and be not troubled, nether by sprete, nether by wordes, ner yet by letter, which shulde seme to be sent from vs, as though ye daye of Christ were at hande.3 Let noman disceaue you by eny meanes. For the LORDE commeth not, excepte the DEPARTYNGE COME FIRST, and that that Man of synne be opened, euen the sonne of perdicion,4 which is an aduersary, and is exalted aboue all yt is called God or Gods seruyce, so that he sytteth as God in the temple of God, and boasteth himselfe to be God.5 Remembre ye not, that whan I was yet with you, I tolde you these thinges?6 And now ye knowe what witholdeth it, eue that it mighte be vttered at his tyme.7 (For the mystery of the iniquyte worketh allready, tyll he which now onely letteth, be take out of the waye.)8 And then shal that wicked be vttered, whom the LORDE shal cosume with ye sprete of his mouth, & shal destroye with the appearaunce of his commynge:"

2Th 2:1-8 in Cranmer's Bible (The Great Bible) (1539) says, "We beseke you brethren by the commynge of or LORDE Iesus Christ, and in that we shal assemble vnto him, that ye be not sodenly moued fro youre mynde, and be not troubled, nether by sprete, nether by wordes, ner yet by letter, which shulde seme to be sent from vs, as though ye daye of Christ (should be day of the Lord) were at hande. Let noman disceaue you by eny meanes. For the LORDE commeth not, excepte the DEPARTYNGE COME FIRST, and that that Man of synne be opened, euen the sonne of perdicion, which is an aduersary, and is exalted aboue all yt is called God or Gods seruyce, so that he sytteth as God in the temple of God, and boasteth himselfe to be God. Remembre ye not, that whan I was yet with you, I tolde you these thinges? And now ye knowe what witholdeth it, eue that it mighte be vttered at his tyme. (For the mystery of the iniquyte worketh allready, tyll he (the Holy Spirit) which now onely letteth, be take out of the waye [i.e., at the time of the Rapture].) And then shal that wicked be vttered, whom the LORDE shal cosume with ye sprete of his mouth, & shal destroye with the appearaunce of his commynge".

The Wycliffe Bible (1384) had "DAY OF THE LORD" and "DEPARTING AWAY". 2 Th 2:1-3 said, "But, brethren, we pray you by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and of our congregation into the same coming [into the same thing], 2 that ye be not moved soon from your wit, neither be afeared [neither be aghast], neither by spirit, neither by word, neither by epistle as sent by us, as if the DAY OF THE LORD be nigh. 3 [That] No man deceive you in any manner. For but dissension come first [For no but DEPARTING AWAY, or dissension, shall come first], and the man of sin be showed, the son of perdition".

The Geneva Bible (1599 Edition) had "DAY OF CHRIST" and "DEPARTING FIRST". 2 Th 2:1-3 said, "Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Iesus Christ, and by OUR ASSEMBLING VNTO HIM, 2 That ye be not suddenly mooued from your minde, nor troubled neither by spirit, nor by worde, nor by letter, as it were from vs, as though the DAY OF CHRIST were at hand. 3 Let no man deceiue you by any meanes: for that day shall not come, except there come a DEPARTING FIRST, and that that man of sinne be disclosed, euen the sonne of perdition".

The Aramaic Bible in Plain English has "DAY OF OUR LORD" and "NO REVOLT WILL FIRST COME".
2 Th 2:1-3 says, "But we beg of you, my brethren, concerning the arrival of our Lord Yeshua The Messiah and concerning our assembling unto him, 2That you would not be soon shaken in your minds, neither be troubled, either from word, nor from a spirit, neither from an epistle that is as if from us, namely, that, "Behold, The DAY OF OUR LORD has arrived." 3Let no man deceive you by any means, to the effect that surely NO REVOLT WILL FIRST COME and The Man of Sin, The Son of Destruction, be revealed".

The World English Bible has "DAY OF CHRIST" AND "THE DEPARTURE COMES FIRST". 2 Th 2:1-3 says, "Now, brothers, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and our gathering together to him, we ask you 2 not to be quickly shaken in your mind, nor yet be troubled, either by spirit, or by word, or by letter as from us, saying that the DAY OF CHRIST had come. 3 Let no one deceive you in any way. For it will not be, unless THE DEPARTURE COMES FIRST, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of destruction

The NIV has DAY OF THE LORD" and "REBELLION".
2 Th 2:1-3 says, "1Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us-whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter-asserting that the DAY OF THE LORD has already come. 3Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the REBELLION occurs and the man of lawlessnessa is revealed, the man doomed to destruction."

The ASV has "DAY OF THE LORD" and "FALLING AWAY".
2 Th2:1-3 in American Standard Version says, "Now we beseech you, brethren, touching the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and our gathering together unto him; 2to the end that ye be not quickly shaken from your mind, nor yet be troubled, either by spirit, or by word, or by epistle as from us, as that the DAY OF THE LORD is just at hand; 3let no man beguile you in any wise: for it will not be, except the falling away come first, and the man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition"

The HNV has "DAY OF MESSIAH" AND "DEPARTURE".
2Th 2:1-3 says, "Now, brothers, concerning the coming of our Lord Yeshua the Messiah, and our gathering together to him, we ask you 2 not to be quickly shaken in your mind, nor yet be troubled, either by spirit, or by word, or by letter as from us, saying that the DAY OF MESSIAH (should be Day of the Lord) had come. 3 Let no one deceive you in any way. For it will not be, unless the DEPARTURE comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of destruction".

I am convinced that 2Th 2:1-3 should say "day of the Lord" and "departing." The Rapture comes before the man of sin is revealed, and that comes before the Day of the Lord, which is the Day of God's Wrath. There are two Raptures, one on the Lord's Day, Sunday, maybe May 5, 2013, the other on the great and terrible Day of the Lord, probably Monday, Sept. 14, 2015, the Feast of Trumpets.

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