Pro and Con 1709

Posted 4-25-13

A SUPERNOVA COULD HAVE BEEN THE STAR OF BETHLEHEM

SUPERNOVA SN2006GY

MY REPLY TO A POST

IS FRANCIS LAYING GROUNDWORK FOR A ONE WORLD RELIGION?

http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/is-pope-francis-laying-the-groundwork-for-a-one-world-religion

"Does Pope Francis intend to help the global elite achieve their goal of uniting all of the religions of the world under a single banner? Will he be instrumental in establishing a single global religion for the glorious "new age" that the global elite believe is coming? After he was elected, the cover of Time Magazine declared Pope Francis to be the "New World Pope", and since his election Pope Francis has made it abundantly clear that he is going to make ecumenical outreach a top priority. He has spoken of his "determination to continue on the path of ecumenical dialogue", and he has already held a number of very high profile ecumenical meetings. Not only has he worked hard to reach out to leaders from various Christian traditions, he has also made it a point to try to acknowledge the mutual bonds that he feels with all other religions. For example, in one recent address he made it a point to say that he believes that Muslims worship and pray to the "one God" that he also worships"

Does that mean he worships the Muslim Allah? the Moon God?

"By throwing out Biblical truth for the sake of "friendship between men and women of different religious traditions", is Pope Francis fundamentally betraying the faith that he claims to represent?"

"The following comes from remarks that he made during his very first ecumenical meeting...

"I then greet and cordially thank you all, dear friends belonging to other religious traditions; first of all the Muslims, who worship the one God, living and merciful, and call upon Him in prayer, and all of you. I really appreciate your presence: in it I see a tangible sign of the will to grow in mutual esteem and cooperation for the common good of humanity.

"The Catholic Church is aware of the importance of promoting friendship and respect between men and women of different religious traditions - I wish to repeat this: promoting friendship and respect between men and women of different religious traditions - it also attests the valuable work that the Pontifical Council for interreligious dialogue performs."

"But are "Allah" and the God of the Bible the same thing?

"Of course not. For example, Christians believe that Jesus Christ is God. Muslims deny this vehemently. For much more on why "Allah" and the God of the Bible are not the same, please see this article.

"So either Pope Francis is denying the divinity of Jesus Christ, or he is exhibiting a frightening ignorance of basic Christian theology, or there is some other agenda at work here....

"On another occasion, Pope Francis declared that it was time "to intensify dialogue" with other religions, and that he was "thinking particularly of dialogue with Islam."

"But this affinity for Islam did not just begin recently. The truth is that Pope Francis was working hard to build bridges with Islam even when he was the Archbishop of Buenos Aires...

"For now, Pope Francis just seems to be laying the groundwork for the one world religion that is coming. There is a 900-year-old prophecy that indicates that Pope Francis could be the last Pope. If that prophecy is true, then it will be very important to watch the actions of this Pope very carefully.

"So what do you think about all of this?"

I think the Koran is wrong, and if the Pope knew his Bible, he would know it too.

In the Islamic Koran, Sura 23.91 says, "Never did Allah take to Himself a son, and never was there with him any other god".

Pro_30:4 (KJV of the Bible) says, "Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name (YHWH), and WHAT IS HIS SON'S NAME (YHWH of hosts, Jesus), if thou canst tell?"

Isa 48:2 says, "the God of Israel; The LORD (YHWH) of hosts (i.e., Jesus) is his name."

Isa 44:6 says, "Thus saith the LORD (YHWH) the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD (YHWH) of hosts (Jesus); I am the first (YHWH, King of Israel), and I am the last (YHWH of hosts, his redeemer, Jesus); and beside me there is no God."

Isa 48:12 says, "Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first (YHWH King of Israel), I also am the last" (YHWH of hosts, the Redeemer, Jesus). 13 Mine hand also hath laid the foundation of the earth, and my right hand hath spanned the heavens: when I call unto them, they stand up together."

Isa 48:16-18 says, "Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD (YHWH), and his Spirit (Holy Spirit), hath sent me (YHWH of hosts, Jesus). 17 Thus saith the LORD (YHWH), thy Redeemer (YHWH of hosts, Jesus), the Holy One of Israel; I am the LORD (YHWH) thy God which teacheth thee to profit, which leadeth thee by the way that thou shouldest go. 18 O that thou hadst hearkened to my (YHWH of host's, i.e., Jesus') commandments! then had thy peace been as a river, and thy righteousness as the waves of the sea".

In Joh_10:30, Jesus said, "I and my Father are one." In Joh_17:22, Jesus said, "And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one"

2Co_5:19 says, "God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation."

INCOMING EMAIL, RE: THE END OF SALVATION FOR THE GENTILES

THE RAPTURE MARKS THE END OF GOD'S GRACE OF SALVATION FOR THE GENTILES..... Luke 21:24
".......And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled."

The very next Scripture states:

Luke 21:25
"And there will be signs in the sun and in the moon...." This is the 'Day of the Lord' rapture of the Church.

This Scripture tells us the fate of the unbelieving Gentiles who are NOT raptured:

2 Thessalonians 2:10-12
"...with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the Truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie., that they ALL may be condemned who did not believe the Truth...."

Scripture tells us that NO Gentiles will be saved after the "times of the Gentiles are fulfilled" at the time of the rapture. The un-believing un-raptured Gentiles will receive a strong delusion from God which makes them believe the lie of the anti-Christ. The ONLY people who have the opportunity for salvation after the rapture are the Jewish converts to Jesus by the efforts of the 144,000 sealed Jewish evangelists.

Do NOT believe those who, contrary to the Word of God, claim that Gentiles are saved after the rapture. It is not true according to the Word of God.

According to your Word, come Lord Jesus!

MY REPLY

> > Luke 21:25 "And there will be signs in the sun and in the moon...." This is the 'Day of the Lord' rapture of the Church.

It is the Day-of-the-Lord Last-Trump Rapture of the foolish virgins, new converts, and 144,000 Israelites.

No one will be raptured after the Day of the Lord Rapture. It will happen on the Day of God's Wrath.

Rev 6:17 says, "For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?" No one. Every wall will fall in the worldwide earthquake that day. It won't be easy to stay on your feet.

Eze 38:18-23 says, "And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that MY FURY shall come up in my face. 19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of MY WRATH have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel; 20 So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence, and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and EVERY WALL SHALL FALL TO THE GROUND. 21 And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord GOD: every man's sword shall be against his brother. 22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain (i.e., a tsunami, because the asteroid of Rev 8:8 will hit the NE Mediterranean Sea), and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone. 23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations (i.e., they will see the Sign of the Son of Man in the sky), and they shall KNOW that I am the LORD."

Rev 7:14 says, "These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb."

Who has spotted robes? the foolish Laodicean virgins. They have to wash their robes. How? by confessing their sins committed after they were saved to also bring them under the blood of Christ. When we accept Christ as our Saviour, all our old sins are wiped off the slate, but we need to confess any sins committed after that.

1Jn 1:9 says, "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."

Who else goes up in the Day of the Lord Rapture? The 144,000 Israelites, granted, and who else?

> > The ONLY people who have the opportunity for salvation after the rapture are the Jewish converts to Jesus by the efforts of the 144,000 sealed Jewish evangelists.

Not once does it say that the 144,000 are evangelists. They are sealed because they are Israelites. This makes up for the fact that they are blinded in part until the fullness of the Gentiles come in.

A great multitude will be caught up with the 144,000 Israelites. Rev 7:9 says, "After this I beheld, and, lo, A GREAT MULTITUDE, which no man could number, OF ALL NATIONS, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands".

Now that we have the foolish virgins in Heaven at the Last-Trump Rapture, how about the wise virgins? Did the Lord forget to catch them up to Heaven?

Of course not, their Rapture is the First-Trump Rapture on the Lord's Day, Sunday. It is the Lord's Day Rapture, not to be confused with the Day of the Lord Rapture. They are two different things.

THE FIRST TRUMP

Rev 1:9-11 says, "I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. 10 I was (ginomai, literally became) in the Spirit on the Lord's day (Sunday), and heard behind me a great voice, as of A TRUMPET, 11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last".

Rev 4:1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of A TRUMPET talking with me; which said, COME UP HITHER, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter."

This First-Trump Rapture is for the wise virgins. In Rev 3:10, Jesus promised them this: "Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth."

ALL FIRST-TRUMP SAINTS SING THE NEW SONG

And who goes up in the first Rapture? Saints. Lots of saints out of all nations. Rev 8-10 says, "saints. And they sung a NEW SONG, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; 10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on (epi, on or over) the earth."

ONLY THE 144,000 GET TO SING THE NEW SONG AT THE LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE

Rev 14:1-5 says, "And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads. 2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: 3 And they (i.e., the 144,000) sung as it were a NEW SONG before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and NO MAN COULD LEARN THAT SONG BUT THE 144,000, which were redeemed from the earth. 4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for THEY ARE VIRGINS. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. 5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God."

In Psa 149, we read about the saints in Heaven singing the new song.

Psa 149:1 says, "Praise ye the LORD. Sing unto the LORD a NEW SONG, and his praise in the congregation of saints."

Psa 149:5-9 says, "Let the saints be joyful in glory (i.e., heaven): let them sing aloud upon their beds. 6 Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a twoedged sword in their hand; 7 To execute vengeance upon the heathen, and punishments upon the people; 8 To bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron; 9 To execute upon them the judgment written: this honour have all his saints. Praise ye the LORD."

When does this take place? At the Second Advent seven months after Gog's army is defeated on the Day of God's Wrath (Eze 39:12,13).

Rev 19:11-16 says, "And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he (Jesus) that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war (Armageddon). 12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS."

It looks like the Wrath of God will be on the Feast of Trumpets, Tishri 1, 5776, Mon. Sept 14, 2015.

Rev 16:16-21 says, "And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon. 17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done. 18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great. 19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath. 20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found. 21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent".

A talent is between 110 and 130 pounds. This is a hail of big rocks.

Every wall will fall. Every island will be gone. Every mountain will be gone. That spells worldwide major disaster. It seems likely that this asteroid Wormwood will form the Lake of Fire that will burn forever.

(We have had another warning. A meteor exploded over Santiago del Estero, Argentina 4-21-13. It was smaller than the one that exploded over Russia, but the light from it was blinding.)

Why the 7 month delay? It will take 7 months for Israel to bury the dead to cleanse the land so Jesus can return in glory.

Eze 39:11-13 says, "And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude: and they shall call it The valley of Hamongog. 12 And seven months shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land. 13 Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown the day that I shall be glorified, saith the Lord GOD."

R.B. Thieme was convinced that we will each bump one demon. If he was right, the number of the saved will equal the number of the fallen angels.

Jude 1:14 says, "And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints".

The Lord will bump Satan. That prophecy could mean that there were 10,000 fallen angels besides Satan. We will have to wait and see.

> > Do NOT believe those who, contrary to the Word of God, claim that Gentiles are saved after the rapture. It is not true according to the Word of God.

Sorry, but I have to go by the Word of God. Many Gentiles are saved after the first Rapture.

First-Trump Rapture is out of every nation.

Rev 5:8-10 says, "... saints. 9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of EVERY kindred, and tongue, and people, and NATION; 10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth."

Last-Trump Rapture is out of every nation.

Rev 7:9 says, "After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, OF ALL NATIONS, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands". Agape

HIS REPLY, RE: IF YOU PREACH, TEACH, PROMOTE OR BELIEVE IN AN ANTI-SCRIPTURAL FALSE DOCTRINE

YOU may be doing so at your own eternal peril because YOU MAY NOT be allowed to enter the kingdom of heaven:

Matthew 7:21-23
"Not everyone who says to Me, Lord, Lord, shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. MANY will say to Me IN THAT DAY, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name ? And then I will declare to them, I never knew you; depart from me, you who practice lawlessness !"

Matthew 13:41
"The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom ALL THINGS THAT OFFEND, and all who practice lawlessness, and will cast them into the furnace of fire."

Jesus is offended by anyone who preaches, teaches, promotes or believes in anti-Scriptural false doctrine which is contrary to the Scriptures. You are at risk of losing your eternal salvation if you practice this form of lawlessness.

All but one of the rapture-timing positions is contrary to Scripture making all but one anti-Scriptural false doctrine. You had better search the Scriptures for yourself to find the Truth because your eternal salvation may depend on your choice of which rapture-position to believe. ONE IS THE TRUTH AND THE OTHERS ARE LAWLESSNESS.

This is THE ONE I will bet my eternal salvation on:

Matthew 24:29-31
"Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven........And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds..."

According to Your Word, come Lord Jesus!

MY REPLY

> > This is THE ONE I will bet my eternal salvation on:

> > Matthew 24:29-31
> > "Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven........And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds..."

Didn't you happen to notice that these are not gathered from the Earth? This group is already in Heaven. Mat 24:31 says, "And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of HEAVEN to the other." I will be in this group.

Mar 13:23-27 says, "But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things. 24 But in those days, AFTER THAT TRIBULATION, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, 25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. 26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory (i.e., they will see the Sign of the Son of Man in the sky). 27 And then (tote, at that time) shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven."

Those gathered from one end of heaven to the other were caught up previously in the first Rapture. Those on Earth will be caught up and join those already in Heaven in the second Rapture.

TWO TRUMPETS, TWO RAPTURES

Num 10:1-4 says, "And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 2 Make thee two trumpets of silver; of a whole piece shalt thou make them: that thou mayest use them (i.e., both) for the calling of the assembly, and for the journeying of the camps. 3 And when they shall blow with them (both), all the assembly shall assemble themselves to thee at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation. 4 And if they blow but with one trumpet, then the princes, which are heads of the thousands of Israel, shall gather themselves unto thee."

When the first trumpet sounds, the elders, 12 patriarchs and 12 apostles of Israel will be caught up. These are caught up in Rev 4:1-4.

It says, "After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter. 2 And immediately I was (ginomai, became) in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne. 3 And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald. 4 And round about the throne were four and twenty seats (thrones): and upon the seats I saw four and twenty ELDERS sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold."

THE FIRSTBORN ARE ALREADY IN HEAVEN WHEN THE LASTBORN ARE CAUGHT UP

Heb 12:22-24 says, "But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, 23 TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY AND CHURCH OF THE FIRSTBORN, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, 24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant".

I would prefer to be caught up about Mid-Trib than on the Day of God's Wrath at the end of the Great Tribulation. You do know that Christians may be killed during the Great Tribulation, don't you?"

Rev_6:11 says, "And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled."

Here is my "Come up hither."
Rev 4:1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither."

It is a good thing our salvation does not depend on how we interpret the Bible.

Our salvation depends on our accepting Christ as our Saviour. Nothing else. It is Christ plus nothing.

Joh 3:16-18 says, "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."

John 20:31 says, "But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name."

Rom_10:9 says, "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."

I am happy with how my life is turning out. I said, "Yes" to Christ, and "Yes" when Ed asked me to marry him. Now, I get to be with them both forever. I can't think of anything better.

Also, after finding Isa 6:8, I echoed the "Here am I; send me." I have been studying the Bible ever since.

I'm so glad the Lord sent Ed to answer a few questions I had. He died when 87 on Dec 27, 2011. On the following April 2, he appeared to me. He walked into the bedroom with an ear to ear smile on his face. I recognized him instantly. He looked normal in every way, but his black "silk" suit was made of thinner material than any suit he ever had. The fabric flowed around his shin like silk. It also had a sheen like silk. His voice was normal too.

Here are my questions I asked him and his answers.

"Are you 30 or 33"? He said, "33".
"Can we be together forever?" He said, "Yes."
"Are there female angels in Heaven?" He said, "Yes."
"Have you gotten with your family?" He said, "Yes."
"Have you gotten with my family?" He said, "Yes."
"Do you have a piano.?" He said, "Yes" and walked through the wall.

He looked normal, like he did when 33. His voice was normal. But in his celestial body, he could walk through the wall, black silk suit and all.

After his resurrection, Jesus could walk through closed doors.

Joh 20:26-31 says, "And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: THEN CAME JESUS, THE DOORS BEING SHUT, AND STOOD IN THE MIDST, and said, Peace be unto you."

Luk 12:42-46 says, "And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season? 43 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. 44 Of a truth I say unto you, that he will make him ruler over all that he hath. 45 But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken; 46 The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder (dichotomeo, to cut asunder, i.e., cut him off), and will appoint him his portion (i.e., the Great Tribulation) with the unbelievers."

Mat 24:51 adds, "And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites (pretenders): there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

Mat 22:10-14 says, "So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests. 11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment: 12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless. 13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 14 For many are CALLED, BUT FEW CHOSEN."

The wise virgins are called, and chosen and faithful. Mat 25:1-13 says, "Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom. 2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish. 3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them: 4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps. 5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept. 6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him. 7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps. 8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out. 9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves. 10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut. 11 AFTERWARD came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. 12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not. 13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh."

Rev 17:12-14 says, "And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast (i.e., the False Prophet). 13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. 14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: AND THEY THAT ARE WITH HIM ARE CALLED, AND CHOSEN, AND FAITHFUL."

The wise virgins are already with Christ when the ten kings have not received their kingdom yet. Therefore, there is a Rapture before the end of the Great Tribulation. Agape

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