Pro and Con 1736

Posted 7-19-13

SATURN CAN HAVE BLUE SKIES

A POST ON FIVE DOVES, RE: Frank Molver (18 July 2013) "David re what happens to the luke warm, Neils news on rapture"

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/july2013/neill713.htm

Many of us have struggled with this question
The Lord's answer seems quite hard so we struggle with it
Here is an example from Neil re a death experience of a luke warm christian

Neil Lipken (13 July 2013)
"SOME EXTREMELY EXCITING NEWS!"

I have a friend who is a pastor in the Lexington, Kentucky area. We have known each other since 2001, and have been on the phone together about once per week since then.

I just got off the phone speaking to him. He was just preaching at a church in Cynthiana, Kentucky (north of Lexington). A gentleman there who was described as a "lukewarm churchgoer" was in the hospital and clinically died. He was revived and was terrified and related the following story.

He saw Hell and said it was a place of unfathomable terror, far beyond our comprehension. He said he saw his father there. The Lord told him that He was sending him back to his life on earth and that he must get his life together IMMEDIATELY or he would end up where his father is.

The Lord told him that IF HE KNEW HOW EXTREMELY CLOSE THE RAPTURE NOW IS HE WOULD BE SHOCKED!

This pastor friend of mine will be going to Cynthiana, Kentucky about two weeks from now to interview him. I will relate more when I get the transcript of the interview.

Neil

P.S. Suffice it to say, this gentleman is no longer "lukewarm"!

P.P.S. Many pastors today want to shove the topic that we are living late in these End Times under the rug! I say shame on them!

P.P.S. For those of you reading this who already know Christ (Israel's long rejected Messiah), I give you these two scriptures:

Philippians 3:20 (New American Standard Bible)

"For our citizenship is in heaven, from which also we EAGERLY wait for a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ."

Hebrews 9:28 (New American Standard Bible)

"so Christ also, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, shall appear a second time for salvation without reference to sin, to those who EAGERLY await Him."

Pastors who want to throw this topic under the bus are not EAGERLY awaiting Him!!! And they are risking missing the Rapture and being left behind to face the terrors of the coming Tribulation Period!

MY REPLY, RE: IS THE RAPTURE ON TABERNACLES?

> > The Lord told him that IF HE KNEW HOW EXTREMELY CLOSE THE RAPTURE NOW IS HE WOULD BE SHOCKED!

Thank you, thank you!

You made my day. I'm thinking Feast of Tabernacles, because:

At least 18 Bibles say that the goodman or husband will return at the full moon. Jesus is a good man and will be a husband. This is well hidden, but why else would this be in the Bible?

However, the KJV does not say full moon, it says, "will come home at the day appointed."

Pro 7:4,5,18-20 (KJV) says, "Say unto wisdom, Thou art my sister; and call understanding thy kinswoman: 5 That they may keep thee from the strange woman, from the stranger which flattereth with her words....
18 Come, let us take our fill of love until the morning: let us solace ourselves with loves. 19 For the goodman is not at home, he is gone a long journey: 20 He hath taken a bag of money with him, and will come home at the day appointed."

1. NLT: "He has taken a wallet full of money with him and won't return until later this month.*" Footnote: Hebrew until the moon is full."

2. NIV: "He took his purse filled with money and will not be home till full moon."

3. ESV: "he took a bag of money with him; at full moon he will come home."

4. NASB: "He has taken a bag of money *with him, At the full moon he will come home."

5. RSV: "he took a bag of money with him; at full moon he will come home."

6. ASV: "He hath taken a bag of money with him; He will come home at the full moon."

7. DBY: "he hath taken the money-bag with him, he will come home on the day of the full moon."

8. HNV: "He has taken a bag of money with him. He will come home at the full moon."

9. Holman Christian Standard Bible: "He took a bag of money with him and will come home at the time of the full moon."

10. Douay-Rheims Bible: "He took with him a bag of money: he will return home the day of the full moon."

11. English Revised Version: "He hath taken a bag of money with him; he will come home at the full moon."

12. World English Bible: "He has taken a bag of money with him. He will come home at the full moon."

13. Holman Christian Standard: "My husband isn't home; he went on a long journey. He took a bag of money with him and will come home at the time of the full moon."

14. Lexham English Bible: "For there is no man in his home; he has gone on a {long journey}. The bag of money he took in his hand, for [on] the day of the full moon he will come home."

15. Bible in Basic English: "For the master of the house is away on a long journey: He has taken a bag of money with him; he is coming back at the full moon."

16. Common English Bible: "For my husband isn't home; he's gone far away. He took a pouch of money with him; he won't come home till full moon."

17. NAS: "For my husband is not at home, He has gone on a long journey; He has taken a bag of money with him, At the full moon he will come home."

18. NRS: "For my husband is not at home; he has gone on a long journey. He took a bag of money with him; he will not come home until full moon." Agape

A POST ON FIVE DOVES, RE: "To Marilyn reply: David Blackman (11 July 2013)"Marilyn...ten virgins"

You said:

I must not have made it clear enough. I will try again.

How could the five foolish virgins be called "virgins" if they were not saved? The way we get into that category is to accept Christ as our own personal Saviour. Our lamps are lit when we are saved.

The foolish virgins have lighted lamps. They just do not have extra oil to keep them burning brightly for a long time. They are already sputtering, threatening to go out. They just have enough to be saved. They need extra Holy Spirit to make it through the hard times that will precede the last Rapture. Those will be the days when they will be tried.

I would like to take this opportunity to give my understanding of the parable of the 10 virgins.

1. All are virgins - To me this means all have kept themselves pure. They have done all the right things!

2. All have lamps - Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.

3. All slumbered and slept - seems pretty clear to me.

4. All arose, and trimmed their lamps - All are doing the right things.

5. 5 foolish took no oil with them - here is the only difference between the two. The foolish took no oil, none, not even a little bit or even a drop, NONE!

6. 5 wise took oil in their vessels - The wise had just enough for themselves.

You said that the foolish had run out of oil or are sputtering to go out. It seems very clear to me that the foolish have no oil to begin with. Being virgins or doing the right things will not save you, nor will having the word of God save you. To me you must have the oil or the Holy Spirit to be saved. I am sure they will be saved in the tribulation time though! One more thought that I would like to bring out here is that you have made an assumption that the five foolish virgins are the Laodiceans. There is no direct link between the Laodiceans and the foolish virgins in the parable! I agree the Laodiceans are foolish but they are not the ones from this parable though.

I hope I have made myself clear enough here.

Marilyn I do agree with most of what you say and love to read what you write. I am in no way attacking you and if we need to just disagree that is fine. I do look forward to meeting you and Ed when we are all soon with Jesus! David Blackman

MY REPLY

> > I believe tribulation will last 40 Jewish months consisting of 1184 days. I believe God will deliver and save FIRST The Tents of Judah on Kislev 24, December 24, 2016 on Christmas Eve....

> > Marilyn I do agree with most of what you say and love to read what you write. I am in no way attacking you and if we need to just disagree that is fine. I do look forward to meeting you and Ed when we are all soon with Jesus!

Thanks for your kind words. I do not take offense if someone doesn't agree with me. This is a hard subject we are dealing with. We can all get farther along in our understanding by putting all our ideas out there. One may see what another fails to see. I don't know everything. I just want to know everything.

You mentioned Ed. When we met, I was 17 and he was 22. Before that, I had thought a 17-year-old should not go with a 22-year-old. However, the way it happened, I didn't even think of that till now. We couldn't meet until he came home from Japan after WWII. On board ship coming home, he prayed for a Christian wife, and the Lord picked me. It worked like magic when he finally asked me out. He asked me out once and got me forever, and in our 65 years together, we never had a fight.

Only in the last few days have I realized why he had to die before me. We wanted to go up together in the Rapture. However, if the Lord hadn't taken him away, he could not have sent him back to visit me and give me information that I needed to know now that we are so close to the First-Trump Rapture. Ed had 5-bypass heart surgery in 1998 or I would have lost him then. His pump rate was only 10% during surgery. That was too close for comfort.

Heaven is real. Ed and I can be together forever. People there are as if 33 years old and fully awake. They can visit their family and their spouse's family that are in Heaven. Although in their celestial bodies, they can wear clothing that can walk through the wall with them. How they manage that, I don't know. Ed has a piano. I'm so glad, he loves to play the piano, and I love to hear him play. Both kids have fond memories of waking up to Dad's playing the piano.

There are female angels in heaven. Only male angels are mentioned in the Bible.

Therefore the beings that lived on Earth before Adam and Eve must have been angels. Skeletons found in Anatolia, Turkey, are of males, females and children, and they were not giants. However, some did have 6 fingers. One thing stands out in my mind. Many of the females died at 20 years old. Their spines already showed deterioration from hard physical work. Why they chose it, I don't know yet. It might have been because of Satan's lies.

Or, like me, they might not have realized that what they were doing to their backs would cause permanent injury.

Jude 1:6 says, "And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day."

Isa 51:9,10 says, "Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the LORD (i.e., the Son of God, Isa 53:1); awake, as in the ancient days, in the generations of old. Art thou not it that hath cut (lit., split) Rahab (now our Asteroid Belt), and WOUNDED THE DRAGON? 10 Art thou not it which hath DRIED THE SEA, the waters of the great deep; that hath made the depths of the sea a way for the ransomed to pass over?"

I have counted the days of the Tribulation as 2300, because of Dan 8:13-14.

It says, "Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? 14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed."

Where do you get 1184 days?

> > 5 foolish took no oil with them - here is the only difference between the two. The foolish took no oil, none, not even a little bit or even a drop, NONE!

I think the oil stands for the Holy Spirit. Mt 24:48-51 shows me that the "evil servant" is a believer, so will have some oil.

Mat 24:48-51 says, "But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, MY LORD delayeth his coming; 49 And shall begin to smite his FELLOWSERVANTS, and to eat and drink with the drunken; 50 The lord of that SERVANT shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, 51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites (pretenders): there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

Mat 25:1,2 says, "Then (tote, at that time) shall THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom. 2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish."

Luk 12:42-46 says, "And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season? 43 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. 44 Of a truth I say unto you, that he will make him ruler over all that he hath. 45 But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken; 46 The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder (lit., cut him off), and will appoint him his portion (i.e., the Great Tribulation) with the unbelievers."

Mat 24:51 adds, "And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites (pretenders): there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

Mat 22:12-14 says, "And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless. 13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 14 For many are called, but few are chosen."

Rev 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are WITH HIM ARE CALLED, AND CHOSEN, AND FAITHFUL."

We will be with Christ before the 10 kings appear (17:12). Agape

INCOMING EMAIL, RE: Fwd: Come unto me and drink

Please note when Jesus' followers were told to "come unto ME and drink".

It was on the 7th Day of Tabernacles and afterwards they went to their own homes. Agape

Don't know if this has been shared with you or not. In any case, note the verses emboldened below.

In particular please note vs 37

John 7:37 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.

This was said on Tabernacles-7 - If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. Blessings

INCOMING EMAIL

John 7 (KJV)

7 After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him.

2 Now the Jew's feast of tabernacles was at hand.

3 His brethren therefore said unto him, Depart hence, and go into Judaea, that thy disciples also may see the works that thou doest.

4 For there is no man that doeth any thing in secret, and he himself seeketh to be known openly. If thou do these things, shew thyself to the world.

5 For neither did his brethren believe in him.

6 Then Jesus said unto them, My time is not yet come: but your time is alway ready.

7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.

8 Go ye up unto this feast: I go not up yet unto this feast: for my time is not yet full come.

9 When he had said these words unto them, he abode still in Galilee.

10 But when his brethren were gone up, then went he also up unto the feast, not openly, but as it were in secret.

11 Then the Jews sought him at the feast, and said, Where is he?

12 And there was much murmuring among the people concerning him: for some said, He is a good man: others said, Nay; but he deceiveth the people.

13 Howbeit no man spake openly of him for fear of the Jews.

14 Now about the midst of the feast Jesus went up into the temple, and taught.

15 And the Jews marvelled, saying, How knoweth this man letters, having never learned?

16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.

17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.

18 He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.

19 Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me?

20 The people answered and said, Thou hast a devil: who goeth about to kill thee?

21 Jesus answered and said unto them, I have done one work, and ye all marvel.

22 Moses therefore gave unto you circumcision; (not because it is of Moses, but of the fathers;) and ye on the sabbath day circumcise a man.

23 If a man on the sabbath day receive circumcision, that the law of Moses should not be broken; are ye angry at me, because I have made a man every whit whole on the sabbath day?

24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

25 Then said some of them of Jerusalem, Is not this he, whom they seek to kill?

26 But, lo, he speaketh boldly, and they say nothing unto him. Do the rulers know indeed that this is the very Christ?

27 Howbeit we know this man whence he is: but when Christ cometh, no man knoweth whence he is.

28 Then cried Jesus in the temple as he taught, saying, Ye both know me, and ye know whence I am: and I am not come of myself, but he that sent me is true, whom ye know not.

29 But I know him: for I am from him, and he hath sent me.

30 Then they sought to take him: but no man laid hands on him, because his hour was not yet come.

31 And many of the people believed on him, and said, When Christ cometh, will he do more miracles than these which this man hath done?

32 The Pharisees heard that the people murmured such things concerning him; and the Pharisees and the chief priests sent officers to take him.

33 Then said Jesus unto them, Yet a little while am I with you, and then I go unto him that sent me.

34 Ye shall seek me, and shall not find me: and where I am, thither ye cannot come.

35 Then said the Jews among themselves, Whither will he go, that we shall not find him? will he go unto the dispersed among the Gentiles, and teach the Gentiles?

36 What manner of saying is this that he said, Ye shall seek me, and shall not find me: and where I am, thither ye cannot come?

37 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.

38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

40 Many of the people therefore, when they heard this saying, said, Of a truth this is the Prophet.

41 Others said, This is the Christ. But some said, Shall Christ come out of Galilee?

42 Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was?

43 So there was a division among the people because of him.

44 And some of them would have taken him; but no man laid hands on him.

45 Then came the officers to the chief priests and Pharisees; and they said unto them, Why have ye not brought him?

46 The officers answered, Never man spake like this man.

47 Then answered them the Pharisees, Are ye also deceived?

48 Have any of the rulers or of the Pharisees believed on him?

49 But this people who knoweth not the law are cursed.

50 Nicodemus saith unto them, (he that came to Jesus by night, being one of them,)

51 Doth our law judge any man, before it hear him, and know what he doeth?

52 They answered and said unto him, Art thou also of Galilee? Search, and look: for out of Galilee ariseth no prophet.

53 And every man went unto his own house.

MY REPLY

Thanks. "COME UNTO ME" on the 7th Day of Tabernacles sounds just right. So does the eighth day when they went home. Also, the 8th day will be THURSDAY.

You almost won me over. Then I remembered that the trumpet has to sound, and it would only normally be blown on feast days or the first of each month. Tishri 15 is the Feast of Tabernacles. That will be Sept 19, the night of the yearly "Harvest Moon". We are a harvest. That is also the full moon in case Proverbs 7:20 applies. Agape

PS:

"The Israelites cultivated both wheat and barley. These two grains are mentioned first in the biblical list of the Seven Species of the land of Israel and their importance as food is also seen in the celebration of the barley harvest at the festival of Shavuot and of the wheat harvest at the festival of Sukkot." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Israelite_cuisine

It is pretty amazing, but Shavuot (Pentecost) was the beginning of the wheat harvest, and Sukkot (Tabernacles) was the end of the wheat harvest. Therefore, the Church began on Pentecost and will probably be harvested on Tabernacles.

http://beforeitsnews.com/prophecy/2011/10/sukkot-the-feast-of-tabernacles-1222124.html "There would be a signal and the priests would step out with their left foot, and then step to the right, swinging the willows back and forth. Meanwhile, a third group of priests, headed by the high priest (Cohen HaGadol), went out the gate known as the Water Gate. They had gone to the pool known as "Siloam" (John [Yochanan] 9:7,11), which means "gently flowing waters." There the high priest had a golden vase and drew the water known as the living water (mayim hayim) and held it in the vase. His assistant held a silver vase containing wine. Just as the priests in the valley of Motzah began to march toward Jerusalem (Yerushalayim), so did the priests in Siloam. As they marched toward the city of Jerusalem (Yerushalayim), the willows made a swishing sound in the wind as they approached the city. The word wind in Hebrew is Ruach. The word spirit in Hebrew is also Ruach. Therefore, this ceremony was symbolic or representative of the Holy Spirit (Ruach HaKodesh) of G-d coming upon the city of Jerusalem (Yerushalayim).

"As each of the party reached their respective gates, a trumpet (shofar) was blown. Then one man would stand up and play the flute (the flute represents the Messiah). The flute player is called "the pierced one." The flute is pierced, and Yeshua was pierced during the crucifixion (Psalm [Tehillim] 22:16; Zechariah 12:10; John [Yochanan] 19:34-37; Revelation 1:7)."

INCOMING EMAIL, Re: Come unto me and drink

You wrote "it would only normally be blown on feast days"

Tabernacles is a feast of 7 days.

Wouldn't the trumpet be blown every day of the feast, including the last day and Great Day of Tabernacles?

Just wondering? Agape

MY REPLY

Something out of the ordinary happened as I studied. I will copy my notes below without changing anything. Two things I copied from a Five Doves document from 2010 came out in a huge font (http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2011/lisat104.htm). It wasn't that way on Five Doves. This computer has never done this before. Bible verses I downloaded from the Internet were not in that large font (Arial 56.4), but they said "full moon", the important thing.

It looks like the Rapture will be on the full moon, Tishri 15, 5774, Sept. 19, 2013.

MY STUDY NOTES

"the Feast of Ingathering or Tabernacles, which is in the end of the year

The Transfiguration appears to be a rehearsal for the Rapture.

at 17:1 And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart (i.e., on Tabernacles),
Mat 17:2 And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light.
Mat 17:3 And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him.
Mat 17:4 Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.
Mat 17:5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.
Mat 17:6 And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face, and were sore afraid.
Mat 17:7 And Jesus came and touched them, and said, Arise, and be not afraid.

Mar 9:1 And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power.
Mar 9:2 And after six days Jesus taketh with him Peter, and James, and John, and leadeth them up into an high mountain apart by themselves: and he was transfigured before them.
Mar 9:3 And his raiment became shining, exceeding white as snow; so as no fuller on earth can white them.
Mar 9:4 And there appeared unto them Elias with Moses: and they were talking with Jesus.
Mar 9:5 And Peter answered and said to Jesus, Master, it is good for us to be here: and let us make three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.

Luk 9:27 But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God.
Luk 9:28 And it came to pass about an eight days after these sayings, he took Peter and John and James, and went up into a mountain to pray.
Luk 9:29 And as he prayed, the fashion of his countenance was altered, and his raiment was white and glistering.
Luk 9:30 And, behold, there talked with him two men, which were Moses and Elias:
Luk 9:31 Who appeared in glory, and spake of his decease which he should accomplish at Jerusalem.
Luk 9:32 But Peter and they that were with him were heavy with sleep: and when they were awake, they saw his glory, and the two men that stood with him.
Luk 9:33 And it came to pass, as they departed from him, Peter said unto Jesus, Master, it is good for us to be here: and let us make three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias: not knowing what he said.

Exo 23:14 Three times thou shalt keep a feast unto me in the year.
Exo 23:15 Thou shalt keep the feast of unleavened bread: (thou shalt eat unleavened bread seven days, as I commanded thee, in the time appointed of the month Abib; for in it thou camest out from Egypt: and none shall appear before me empty:)
Exo 23:16 And the feast of harvest, the firstfruits of thy labours, which thou hast sown in the field: and the feast of ingathering (asiyph, gathering in of crops), which is in the end of the year, when thou hast gathered in thy labours out of the field.
Exo 23:17 Three times in the year all thy males shall appear before the Lord GOD.

Exo_34:22 And thou shalt observe the feast of weeks, of the firstfruits of wheat harvest, and the feast of ingathering (asiyph, gathering in of crops) at the year's end.

Jas 5:7 Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain.
Jas 5:8 Be ye also patient; stablish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh.
Jas 5:9 Grudge not one against another, brethren, lest ye be condemned: behold, the judge standeth before the door.

ONLY PLACE "LORD'S DAY" APPEARS

Rev_1:10: I was (lit., became) in the Spirit on the Lord's day (i.e., Saturday, Sunday or a feast day), and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,

Rev_4:1: After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.

Num 10:1: And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Num 10:2: Make thee two trumpets of silver; of a whole piece shalt thou make them: that thou mayest use them for the calling of the assembly, and for the journeying of the camps.
Num 10:3: And when they shall blow with them, all the assembly shall assemble themselves to thee at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation.
Num 10:4: And if they blow but with one trumpet, then the princes, which are heads of the thousands of Israel, shall gather themselves unto thee.

The princes, i.e., the elders

Num 10:10: "Also in the day of your gladness, and in your solemn days (moed, a fixed time or season, specifically a festival, an appointed time, an assembly, an appointment, a signal), and in the beginnings of your months, ye shall blow with the trumpets over your burnt offerings, and over the sacrifices of your peace offerings; that they may be to you for a memorial before your God: I am the LORD your God.

Psa_47:5: God is gone up with a shout, the LORD with the sound of a trumpet."

Isa_18:3: All ye inhabitants of the world, and dwellers on the earth, see ye, when he lifteth up an ensign on the mountains; and when he bloweth a trumpet, hear ye.

1Co_15:52: In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Psalm 81:3-4: "Sound the ram's horn at the New Moon, and when the moon is full, on the day of our Feast; this is a decree for Israel, an ordinance of the God of Jacob."(NIV)

Psa 81:3

KJV "Blow up the trumpet in the new moon, in the time appointed, on our solemn feast day."

1. NKJV "Blow the trumpet at the time of the New Moon, at the FULL MOON, on our solemn feast day."

2. NLT "Blow the ram's horn at new moon, and again at FULL MOON to call a festival!"

3. NIV "Sound the ram's horn at the New Moon, and WHEN THE MOON IS FULL, on the day of our festival"

4. ESV "Blow the trumpet at the new moon, at the FULL MOON, on our feast day."

5. NASB "Blow the trumpet at the new moon, At the FULL MOON, on our feast day."

6. RSV "Blow the trumpet at the new moon, at the FULL MOON, on our feast day."

7. ASV "Blow the trumpet at the new moon, At the FULL MOON, on our feast-day."

8. HNV "Blow the shofar at the New Moon, At the FULL MOON, on our feast day."

9. Holman Christian Standard Bible (©2009)
"Blow the horn on the day of our feasts during the new moon and during the FULL MOON."

10. International Standard Version (©2012)
"Blow the ram's horn when there is a New Moon, when there is a FULL MOON, on our festival day"

11. NET Bible (2006)
"Sound the ram's horn on the day of the new moon, and on the day of the FULL MOON when our festival begins."

12. Aramaic Bible in Plain English (2010)
"Call with the trumpets at the first of the month and at FULL MOON on feast days."

13. GOD'S WORD Translation (1995)
"Blow the ram's horn on the day of the new moon, on the day of the FULL MOON, on our festival days."

14. American Standard Version
"Blow the trumpet at the new moon, At the FULL MOON, on our feast-day."

15. English Revised Version
"Blow up the trumpet in the new moon, at the FULL MOON, on our solemn feast day."

16. World English Bible
"Blow the trumpet at the New Moon, at the FULL MOON, on our feast day."

Added 7-23-13:
17. Prov 7:20, Hebraic Roots Bible
"He has taken a bag of silver in his hand; at the day of the FULL MOON he will enter his house."

I think the Rapture just might be on Tabernacles, Tishri 15, the FULL MOON. How about you? Agape

MY REPLY TO AN EMAIL, RE: Come unto me and drink

Thanks. "COME UNTO ME" on the 7th Day of Tabernacles sounds just right. So does the eighth day when they went home. Also, the 8th day will be THURSDAY.

You almost won me over. Then I remembered that the trumpet has to sound, and it would only normally be blown on feast days or the first of each month. Tishri 15 is the Feast of Tabernacles. That will be Sept 19, the night of the yearly "Harvest Moon". We are a harvest. That is also the full moon in case Proverbs 7:20 applies. Agape

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