Pro and Con 1755
WHAT EZEKIEL SAW
In Ezekiel 1 and 10, Ezekiel saw the four terrestrial planets orbiting the Sun. Orbiting around them, he saw a cloud, the Asteroid Belt, where Satan's planet Rahab split apart.
Isa 51:9 says, "Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the LORD (i.e., Christ, Isa 53:1); awake, as in the ancient days, in the generations of old. Art thou not it that hath cut (chatsab, split, divided) Rahab, and wounded the dragon?"
Prof. James McCanney announced that he saw Mars "go comet", i.e., become engulfed in a comet-like plasma coma absorbed from "the passing, dangerous, government-concealed Comet ISON."
Farther out in space, Ezekiel saw the amber planet Saturn with it's rainbow-like ring system. He saw Jesus, the only man/God, seated there on his sapphire throne (Eze 1:1,26-28).
Exo_24:10 agrees. It says, "And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven (i.e., the heavenly body, Saturn) in his clearness."
Eze 1:13 says, "As for the likeness of the living creatures (lively flying globes, the 4 terrestrial planets), their appearance was like burning coals of fire, and like the appearance of lamps (i.e., like the lamps on the lampstand): it (i.e., the incoming asteroid Wormwood) went up and down among the living creatures (i.e., lively flying things, the terrestrial planets); and the fire was bright, and out of the fire went forth lightning."
"A massive and "serious" cyber attack on the U.S. homeland is coming,
and a natural disaster - the likes of which the nation has never seen -
is also likely on its way. So prepare, and bring "a large bottle of Advil,"
Janet Napolitano told her yet-to-be-named replacement in a farewell
address Tuesday morning."
"The Government Ruling Elite are Fleeing into their Underground Cities to Escape the Perils of the Approaching Comet ISON" John DiNardo"
"Oct. 3rd: An amateur astronomer photographed Mars, glowing in an
electric coma of plasma, apparently absorbed from its electrical
flirtation with the highly plasmatic, Sun-drawn Comet ISON.
As I have stated a week ago, this government shutdown conveniently
shuts down our eyes in the sky, our tax-paid government telescopes,
so that the public will not become alarmed over Comet ISON's
approaching perils." JD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDyCDTz6hwY)
"Prof. James McCanney announces that he has been informed that Mars
has recently become engulfed in a comet-like plasma coma, obviously
absorbed from the passing, dangerous, government-concealed Comet
A POST ON FIVE DOVES, RE: Rudy Wallace (14 Oct 2013) "More on the ISON Debris Field and the Trumpet
Earlier postings have outlined a possible scenario for the sixth seal being
a time for the rapture and a close approach of comet ISON possibly setting
the stage for the events of the sixth seal. Some are also saying that the
ISON debris field could be the first trumpet judgment. In reading the
trumpet judgments, it seems possible that the sixth seal judgment, which
includes a rapture, could then be quickly followed by the trumpet judgments
and all as a result of comet ISON and its debris field.
Seems a bit eerie and possible and then tie in the proposed FEMA drills for
region three in our nation, and perhaps this will lead to the leaders and
others hiding in the caves and rocks (DUMBS) as they see the wrath of God
coming on planet earth. Also interesting that the drill is in region three
where a lot of our nation's political and military power base is located.
Will the powers of the government and military go hide in the DUMBS as part
of a supposed "drill" as the wrath of God is poured out?
What ya think?
> > "Earlier postings have outlined a possible scenario for the sixth seal
being a time for the rapture and a close approach of comet ISON possibly
setting the stage for the events of the sixth seal. Some are also
saying that the ISON debris field could be the first trumpet judgment.
In reading the trumpet judgments, it seems possible that the sixth seal
judgment, which includes a rapture, could then be quickly followed by
the trumpet judgments and all as a result of comet ISON and its debris
> > What ya think?"
I think comet ISON is too early to be sixth seal. The seven-sealed Title
Deed of the Earth will be given Christ soon after the first Rapture. The
Last-Trump Rapture is after the sixth seal.
How about comet I SON being a sign of the First-Trump Rapture? It comes to
perihelion on the first day of Hanukkah, which is also our Thanksgiving, Nov
28, 2013. Can you think of a better day for our Thanksgiving than the day of
the first Rapture?
Our Thanksgiving comes on the first day of Hanukkah this year. The last time
that happened was 1888. The next time will be in 79,043 years. Those are
awesome figures. It hasn't happened in my lifetime. Many eyes will be
looking at ISON on Nov 28. That seems like a good day for the First-Trump
I'm not saying the Rapture has to be on that day, but that is the date I
hope it will be on. I'd rather not be 85, and my birthday is coming up in
the first half of December. My mom died at 84. Dad and my husband Ed both
died at 87. There is a correlation there. Ed is in Heaven, and of course, I
would like to be with him. When he visited me in his celestial body, I asked
him if we could be together forever. He said, "Yes." That makes waiting a
whole lot easier. I also asked him if he was 30 or 33. He said, "33". Jesus
played it out for us. He came back on Resurrection Day when he was 33. That
was April 9, 30 AD. I think that he will come back again on April 9, in
2016, the first day of the Sacred, Regnal and Jubilee years.
I am happy with the way my life is turning out. I said, "Yes" to Christ, and
"Yes" to Ed, and now I get to be with them both forever. I can't think of
Maybe I can put the scriptures on the two Raptures in order for you. Though
there are some very symbolic passages that tie in, I am not just pulling
this out of thin air. It comes after much study.
Early in my studies, in a darkened room, I saw a rectangle of light on Jer.
50:2. It says, "Declare ye among the nations, and publish, and set up a
standard; PUBLISH, AND CONCEAL NOT: say, Babylon is taken, Bel is
confounded, Merodach is broken in pieces; her idols are confounded, her
images are broken in pieces." I had been writing about the 3 Babylons that whole day. That began my writing career. Before that, I wrote for myself, as a way to figure out more Biblical meanings.
I had no idea that writing for publication was coming. In my last year of High School, probably
because I was married and keeping it a secret, I thought, "I'm not going to
be a writer, so why should I learn how to conjugate a sentence?" Oh well,
the Lord wanted me to be a writer, and I had to learn how to do it.
I wrote my third book, on "The Revelation of Jesus Christ," so I have studied this
subject a lot, starting about 1960, when I was about 32. I am almost 85 now.
At the end of 7 years of constant reading of the books in BIOLA's Seminary
Collection before I wrote my three books, I couldn't find one more book on
The Revelation that I wanted to read. By that time, I had read so many of
them that by leafing through them, I couldn't even figure out which ones I
It was time to quit reading man's books about the Bible and try to fathom
the remaining questions I had by sticking to the scriptures, mainly the KJV
and the Septuagint, but I got a lot of other versions to compare. I began
looking up the original words in Strong's Concordance. Some mysteries would
not come clear until I started doing that. Where Heaven is located, and the
meaning of Gen. 3:24 were of paramount concern to me. In reading man's books
about the Bible, I found no reasonable explanations of Eze. 1 and 10, or Gen
3:24. I researched those first and thanks to the Lord's help, found the
answers. Heaven is on our amber planet, Saturn. It is the 3rd Heaven Paul
was caught up to - (1) Mars, (2) Jupiter, and (3) Saturn. See II Cor 12:2-4.
Eze 1:26,27 says, "And above the firmament (i.e., expanse of space) that was
over their heads (i.e., farther out in space than the four terrestrial
planets, was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire
stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the
appearance of a man (i.e., the only God/man Jesus) above upon it. 27 And I
saw as the colour of amber..."
I am still studying today, with eSword and sites like Blue-Letter Bible on
the Internet. Ed signed me up for the Internet, bless his heart.
YOU ARE RIGHT THAT THE SIXTH SEAL IS THE TIME OF A RAPTURE
However, it is the Rapture for the foolish Laodicean virgins, the 144,000
Israelites, and the other Tribulation saints, not the Rapture the wise
virgins are looking forward to.
YOU ARE RIGHT THAT A RAPTURE COMES BEFORE THE TRUMPET JUDGMENTS, BUT THERE
ARE TWO RAPTURES THAT PRECEDE THE TRUMPET JUDGMENTS, A FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE
AND A LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE
I Thess 4:16,17 speaks of the first "trump of God". 1Co 15:52 speaks of "the
The Sixth Seal is the Second Rapture, the Last-Trump Rapture that is
followed by the 7 trumpet judgments listed in Rev. 8.
Rev. 6:12 says, "And I beheld when he had opened the SIXTH SEAL, and, lo,
there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair,
and the moon became as blood."
Rev 6:17 says, "For THE GREAT DAY OF HIS WRATH IS COME; and who shall be
able to stand?"
Rev 7:14 says, "These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have
washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb."
THE SEALS TELL THE TALE
So, when does the First-Trump Rapture take place? before Christ is given the
When does the Rapture of the Tribulation saints take place? after six seals
are broken. Let's look at the scriptures.
FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE OF THE WISE PHILADELPHIAN VIRGINS
1Th 4:13-18 says, "But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren,
concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which
have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so
them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say
unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto
the coming of the Lord shall not prevent (phthano, precede) them which are
asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout,
with the voice of the archangel, and with the TRUMP of God: and the dead in
Christ shall rise FIRST: 17 THEN WE WHICH ARE ALIVE AND REMAIN SHALL BE
CAUGHT UP TOGETHER (hama, together, at the "same" time) WITH (sun, IN UNION
WITH) THEM in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever
be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words."
I understand "comfort" now as never before. I look at Ed's pictures on the
dresser and tell him I think I will be with him soon. We are "one flesh."
Gen_2:24 says, "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and
shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh."
Mar_10:8 says, "And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more
twain, but one flesh."
Eph_5:31 says, "For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and
shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh."
THE LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE, THAT OF THE FOOLISH VIRGINS, THE 144,000 ISRAELITES,
AND A NUMBER OF TRIBULATION SAINTS SO GREAT THAT NO ONE CAN NUMBER THEM
1Co 15:51-54 says, "Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep,
but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, AT
THE LAST TRUMP: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised
incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on
incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this
corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put
on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written,
Death is swallowed up in victory."
Rev 7:4 says, "And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there
were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the
children of Israel."
Rev 7:9 says, "After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man
could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood
before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms
in their hands"
Rev 14:1-5 says, "I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and
with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name
written in their foreheads. 2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice
of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice
of harpers harping with their harps: 3 And they sung as it were a new song
before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man
could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which
were redeemed from the earth. 4 These are they which were not defiled with
women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb
whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the
firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. 5 And in their mouth was found no
guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God."
JESUS RECEIVES THE SEVEN-SEALED BOOK AFTER THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE
Rev 4:1-5 says, "After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in
heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet (i.e.,
first trumpet) talking with me; which said, COME UP HITHER, and I will shew
thee things which must be HEREAFTER. 2 And immediately I was (lit. became)
in the spirit: and, behold, A THRONE was set in heaven, and one (i.e., Jesus
Christ, THE GOD/MAN, Eze. 1:1, 26-28) sat on the throne. 3 And he (i.e.,
Jesus) that sat was to look upon like a jasper (last stone in the
breastplate) and a sardine stone (first stone in the breastplate, i.e.,
Jesus is both the first and the last, 'LORD' of the Old Testament, and
'Lord' of the New Testament): and there was a rainbow (i.e., Saturn's rings)
round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald (Judah's stone in the
breastplate, i.e., Jesus is the Lion of the Tribe of Judah). 4 And round
about the throne were four and twenty seats (thrones): and upon the seats I
saw four and twenty ELDERS sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had
on their heads crowns of gold. 5 And out of the throne proceeded lightnings
and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps (i.e., as in the
lampstand) of fire (i.e., Sun, Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, and
Saturn) burning before the throne (i.e., on Saturn), which are the seven
Spirits of God."
Rev 4:6-11 says, "And before the throne (i.e., which is on Saturn, Eze
1:26-28) there was a sea of glass (hualinos, transparent, glassy) like unto
crystal (krustallos, ice, i.e., Saturn's ring system): and in the midst of
the throne (i.e., on Saturn), and round about the throne, were four (i.e.,
number 4 means earth, creation, world) beasts full of eyes (i.e., full orbs,
globes) before and behind. (The 4 orbs stand for Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and
Neptune)7 And the first beast was like a lion (symbol of east on flags put
at compass points when Israel camped around the Tabernacle), and the second
beast like a calf (symbol of south), and the third beast had a face as a man
(symbol of west), and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle (symbol of
north). 8 And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him (i.e.,
they fly); and they were full of eyes (i.e., full orbs, globes) within: and
they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty,
which was, and is, and is to come. 9 And when those beasts give glory and
honour and thanks to him that sat on the throne, who liveth for ever and
ever, 10 The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the
throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns
before the throne, saying, 11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and
honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure
they are and were created."
Ezekiel (which means whom God will strengthen) 1:1 says, "Now it came to
pass in the thirtieth year, in the fourth month (Tamuz, which means SON OF
LIFE), in the fifth day (5 means grace, cross, atonement, life) of the
month, as I was among the captives by the river of Chebar (meaning great),
that THE HEAVENS WERE OPENED, AND I SAW VISIONS OF GOD" (elohiym, the
(See image included of what Ezekiel saw.)
Eze 1:26-28 says, "And above the firmament (expanse of space) that was over
their heads (i.e., farther out in space than the four terrestrial planets)
was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone
(sapphire means dear to the planet Saturn, from the Sanskrit Sani, Saturn,
and priya, dear; Webster's Collegiate Dictionary): and upon the likeness of
the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man (JESUS IS THE ONLY
MAN/GOD) above upon it. 27 And I saw as the colour of AMBER (i.e., Saturn
is the amber planet), as the appearance of fire round about within it (i.e.,
like a lamp in the lampstand, as Josephus said, it looks like a lighted lamp
in the night sky), from the appearance of his loins (i.e., from the equator)
even upward, and from the appearance of his loins even downward, I saw as it
were the appearance of fire (i.e., that's why it looks amber), and it had
brightness (i.e., Saturn's rings) round about. 28 As the appearance of the
bow (rainbow) that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance
of the brightness (i.e., Saturn's rings) round about. This was the
appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD."
THESE ARE THEY WHICH CAME OUT OF GREAT TRIBULATION, AND HAVE WASHED THEIR
Rev 7:4,9,14,15 says, "And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and
there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes
of the children of Israel.
9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could
number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before
the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in
14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, THESE ARE
THEY (i.e., the foolish virgins) WHICH CAME OUT OF GREAT TRIBULATION, and
have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
15 Therefore are they before the throne of God".
IN REV. 5, THE LITTLE BOOK IS SEALED WITH SEVEN SEALS
Rev 5:1-14 says, "And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne
a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals. 2 And I
saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the
book, and to loose the seals thereof? 3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth,
neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.
4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the
book, neither to look thereon. 5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep
not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath
prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof. 6 And I
beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in
the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven
horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all
the earth. 7 And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him
that sat upon the throne. 8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts
and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of
them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of
saints. 9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the
book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed
us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and
nation; 10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall
reign on the earth. 11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels
round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them
was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands; 12 Saying
with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and
riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing. 13
And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the
earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying,
Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon
the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever. 14 And the four beasts
said, Amen (i.e., so be it). And the four and twenty elders fell down and
worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever."
HAS JESUS JUST OPENED THE SIXTH SEAL BEFORE THE FIRST SEAL?
HE OPENED THE FIRST SEAL IN REV 6:1,
THE SIXTH SEAL IN REV. 6:12, AFTER THE DAY OF GOD'S WRATH CAME IN REV. 6:17,
AND THE SEVENTH SEAL IN REV 8:1.
Rev 6:1 says, "...And I saw when the Lamb opened ONE OF THE SEALS".
Rev 6:12 says, "And I beheld when he had opened THE SIXTH SEAL, and, lo,
there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair,
and the moon became as blood."
Rev 6:17 says, "For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be
able to stand?"
Rev 8:1,2 says, "And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence
in heaven about the space of half an hour. 2 And I saw the seven angels
which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets."
THE SEQUENCE OF EVENTS
1. The First-Trump Rapture takes place at the "COME UP HITHER" in Rev 4:1
2. Jesus is given the 7-sealed book in Rev 5:7
3. Seals 1 through 6 are broken in Rev 6:1-16
4. The Last-Trump Rapture takes place at 6th seal, on Day of God's Wrath:
Rev 6:17, Rev 7:9,14,15
5. The 7th seal, silence on earth and in heaven, while the Judge is being
seated at the Judgment Seat of Christ; Rev 8:1, Hab 2:20
6. Rev 11:15 says, "And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great
voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms
of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever", not
just during the Millennium, but forever.
> > Will the powers of the government and military go hide in the DUMBS as
> > part of a supposed "drill" as the wrath of God is poured out?
They just have, and it will happen again.
Rev 6:13-17 says, "And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a
fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. 14
And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every
mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15 And the kings of the
earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the
mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the
dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16 And said to the mountains and
rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the
throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17 For the great day of his wrath
is come; and who shall be able to stand?" Agape
PC INDEX Or Return
Contact me for more information at: email@example.com
8641 Sugar Gum Rd, Riverside, CA 92508
© 1996-2013, Marilyn J. Agee