Pro and Con 1757
THE RINGMAKER OF SATURN, IT'S MOON ENCELADUS
The Bible says that Jesus has planned our lives out from before we were even born.
My reply: I'm thinking that it is true, but where does it say that?
Your reply: Psalm 139:16 (TLB) | In Context | Whole Chapter
16 You saw me before I was born and scheduled each day of my life before I began to breathe. Every day was recorded in your book!
Psalm 139:16 (AMP) | In Context | Whole Chapter
16 Your eyes saw my unformed substance, and in Your book all the days [of my life] were written before ever they took shape, when as yet there was none of them.
Psalm 139:16 (HCSB) | In Context | Whole Chapter
16 Your eyes saw me when I was formless;
all my days were written in Your book and planned
before a single one of them began
Psalm 139:16 (NKJV) | In Context | Whole Chapter
16 Your eyes saw my substance, being yet unformed.
And in Your book they all were written,
The days fashioned for me,
When as yet there were none of them
From http://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Psalm%20139%3A16 10/17/2013
Thank you so much. This is perfect, just what I need.
Looking back, there are things in my life that seem to be pre-planned by the Lord-where I went to High School, in Kingsport, TN, instead of Terre Haute, Indiana; where I lived, in staff quarters at Holston Ordinance Works instead of in Kingsport; who I met at the staff quarters and married; why we moved from Oak Ridge, TN to La Mirada, CA, where BIOLA built a new facility.
I have either been terribly lucky, or the Lord has been controlling things from way back, and I think the Lord has orchestrated the whole thing....Agape
INCOMING EMAIL AND A POST ON FIVE DOVES, RE: M Agee - God has planned out our lives
From: Gary Rich (20 Oct 2013)
Michael Colunga posted some good pointers to where in the Bible God talked about planning out our lives - even before we were born, one of those is -
Psalm 139 - verse 16 :
You saw me before I was born.
Every day of my life was recorded in your book.
Every moment was laid out
before a single day had passed
this scripture verse clearly tells us that God has planned out in advance our earthly lives, of course we still have to agree with Him and actually fulfill the mission / assignments that He has called us to do
also in Ephesians 2:10 says "we are God's handiwork, created in Jesus Christ to do good works which God has prepared in advance for us to do"
So I would say yes God has planned out our lives, but we still have to live out and do what He has planned for us to do. God has divine assignments for every Christian believer to fulfill in their earthly lives. He has given each of us spiritual gifts to be used for eternal value. The choice of taking risks, stepping out of the boat and letting God use our lives for His kingdom purposes is up to us. Will we spend our lives on earthly or eternal goals? Will we seek earthly treasurer of eternal treasurer and heavenly rewards?
I would encourage everyone to use your life for God's eternal purposes and store up treasure in heaven - which will last for all of eternity. Soon Jesus will be returning in the rapture of all saved Christian believers. We will then stand before God at the Judgement Seat of Christ. Where our lives will be reviewed to see if we qualify for eternal rewards. Start using your life today for eternal purposes, it will be the best use of your earthly life, and you will be putting a big smile on your Savior's face ! have a blessed day, Gary
POST ON FIVE DOVES, RE: Bruce Baber (20 Oct 2013)
You asked, "The Bible says that Jesus has planned our lives out from before we were even born.
I'm thinking that it is true, but where does it say that?"
Maybe the answer to the question you posed is in this verse found in Ephesians 1... 3 Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing in Christ. 4 For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight.
Or, it might be found here in Jeremh 1:5. "Before I formed you in the womb I knew[a] you,
before you were born I set you apart;
Hope this helps. YBIC Bruce Baber
MY REPLY TO GARY, BRUCE AND MICHAEL
Thanks so much for taking the time to find these verses about the Lord pre-planning our lives. I can see several patterns that make me think my life, my husband's and those of my parents were pre-planned by the Lord.
Several miracles have happened in my life that I can not explain any other way.
My dad was a teacher of math or science, and the principal of my school, until war broke out. He changed to war work at Vigo Ordinance in Terre Haute, IN, and ended up the Safety Engineer at Holston Ordinance Works in Kingsport, TN, after taking a 5-week course at Picatinny Arsenal, NJ - U.S. Army.
I met Ed after he returned from a 32-month stint in the Army.
The Lord woke me up one night and said, "Be still and know that I am God."
Another time, the Lord put a rectangle of light on Jer 50:2 in a darkened room. It said, "Declare ye among the nations, and publish, and set up a standard; publish, and conceal not: say, Babylon is taken, Bel is confounded, Merodach is broken in pieces; her idols are confounded, her images are broken in pieces."
I love the Lord and all these scriptures you have suggested:
Eph 2:10: "we are God's handiwork, created in Jesus Christ to do good works which God has prepared in advance for us to do".
Eph 1:4: "For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight."
Jer 1:5. "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart".
Psa 139:16. "You saw me before I was born. Every day of my life was recorded in your book.
Every moment was laid out before a single day had passed".
That is sure nice to know. It explains why I have been so "lucky." It was the Lord who got Ed and I to move from Oak Ridge, TN to La Mirada, CA, where we "just happened" to buy our first house near where BIOLA was going to build a new campus. The books about the Bible in their Seminary Collection kept me reading constantly for 7 years. I got the education I needed there, and I could not have foreseen what was coming. Thanks much. Agape
INCOMING EMAIL, RE: Should you pray for the sick
There is not even one word from Jesus in the New Testament that tells us to pray for the sick, nor in Acts or in the rest of the New Testament that gives instructions for people to pray or join together in prayer for the sick.
From the works of Jesus while on the earth we can understand that all forms of sickness come as a result of the works of Satan on this earth.
When God created the world and everything in it, God expressed that His works were good. Likewise God made mankind in His own image and that was all good. It was Satan that introduced corruption into the world and that corruption within mankind can only be overcome by an absolute belief in Jesus as your Lord and Savior.
Therefore praying for the sick is like patting Satan on the head and giving Satan the praise for evil deeds and probably makes things even worse. The Church should understand sickness for what it really is and join together to cast the demon influences out of a sick person. As Jesus said, " lay hands on the sick and they shall recover".
Of course, people of today are so far removed from this understanding that they will reject it. Satan has been very successful in convincing the mind of mankind that sickness is a normal process that can only be overcome through the concerted efforts developed by the knowledge of mankind.
Lord Jesus, I pray "you lead us not into temptation but will deliver us from evil" as you have taught us to pray.
> > There is not even one word from Jesus in the New Testament that tells us to pray for the sick, nor in Acts or in the rest of the New Testament that gives instructions for people to pray or join together in prayer for the sick.
Have you forgotten that James 5:14-16 (KJV) says, "Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: 15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him. 16 Confess your faults one to another, and PRAY ONE FOR ANOTHER, THAT YE MAY BE HEALED. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much."
When our son David was in the hospital expecting to die after emergency surgery for a ruptured appendix and pneumonia, I grabbed his arm and prayed a very simple prayer, probably this, "Lord, please make David well. In Jesus' name, Amen." He lived through it even though his temperature went to 110 at one time and 108 at another. They had to ice him down both times, order more intravenous antibiotics and pain medicine, and just hope for the best. He lived, Thank you Lord.
I'm 84. Now that my husband went to Heaven at 87, I need David with me. The Lord knew what was coming, and healed David for my sake. The Lord gets all the credit.
When I prayed, David would have rather gone to be with the Lord. He said, "Why doesn't the Lord just take me?" It was a long excruciatingly painful journey. He still does not have the muscle strength he had before that happened. He was in the hospital a month.
When in the Emergency Room, one of those coming to examine him said something like this: "Well, it isn't appendicitis, people don't get that after they are 30." He was probably an intern with book knowledge and little actual practice. David was in his upper 50s.
> > Therefore praying for the sick is like patting Satan on the head and giving Satan the praise for evil deeds and probably makes things even worse. The Church should understand sickness for what it really is and join together to cast the demon influences out of a sick person. As Jesus said, "lay hands on the sick and they shall recover".
However, not all sickness is demon possession.
Please research your subject before you send out your emails. I know you are trying to work for the Lord, but only be dogmatic when you have Scripture to back you up. Take time to look it up. I would rather have one that is right than a hundred that are wrong. Well-meaning doesn't make it right. Agape
You have found the one scripture that justifies your experience and it does not come from the words of Jesus. Did you call for the elders of the church?
So, you think sickness is a normal experience and is not brought about by Satan? You have been deceived even though Jesus has been merciful to you and shown you His great love.
> > Did you call for the elders of the church?
No. In the hospital, David said, "Why doesn't the Lord just take me?" I said, "That is not allowed", went around to the other side of the bed, put my hand on his arm, and prayed my simple prayer out loud. It was my spontaneous reaction to his words.
I know that 2Tim 3:16,17 says, "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works."
I know that Jesus is the greatest "Physician". Luk_4:23 says, "And he said unto them, Ye will surely say unto me this proverb, Physician, heal thyself."
Luk_5:31 says, "And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are whole need not a physician; but they that are sick."
Mar_2:17 When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick".
Mat_9:12 says, "But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick."
Jesus Christ is God, the first and the last. There is no greater physician.
Isa 44:6-8 says, "Thus saith the LORD (YHWH) the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD (YHWH) of hosts; I am the first (YHWH King of Israel), and I am the last (YHWH his redeemer, the YHWH of hosts); and BESIDE ME THERE IS NO GOD."
Jesus Christ is the God that gave Israel the Ten Commandments at Mt. Sinai.
Isa 48:12,13,16-18 says, "Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I AM HE; I AM THE FIRST, I ALSO AM THE LAST. 13 Mine hand also hath laid the foundation of the earth...
16 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: AND NOW THE LORD GOD (1), AND HIS SPIRIT (2), HATH SENT ME (3). 17 Thus saith the LORD, thy Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; I am the LORD thy God which teacheth thee to profit, which leadeth thee by the way that thou shouldest go. 18 O that thou hadst hearkened to MY COMMANDMENTS! then had thy peace been as a river, and thy righteousness as the waves of the sea".
Joh_10:30 says, "I and my Father are one."
Joh_1:18 says, "No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him."
Do you know why man was created not being able to see God? I believe R.B. Thieme was right. The wicked angels failed their test, and they could see God. If man, not being able to see God, could still obey him, God would be proved just in sentencing the wicked angels to prison.
> > So, you think sickness is a normal experience and is not brought about by Satan? You have been deceived even though Jesus has been merciful to you and shown you His great love.---
I believe that some sickness is brought about by Satan, and some is not. Certainly, not everyone that gets sick is indwelt by demons. A born-again Christian cannot be indwelt by demons. Yet, they are not totally sickness-free.
> > It was Satan that introduced corruption into the world and that corruption within mankind can only be overcome by an absolute belief in Jesus as your Lord and Savior.
Don't worry about that. I have an absolute belief in Jesus as my Lord and Saviour. If you read what I write, you would know that already. Agape
Good response---perhaps you should give further thought to what I have written.---
> > From the works of Jesus while on the earth we can understand that all forms of sickness come as a result of the works of Satan on this earth.
I don't believe that ALL forms of sickness come as a result of the works of Satan.
> > When God created the world and everything in it, God expressed that His works were good. Likewise God made mankind in His own image and that was all good. It was Satan that introduced corruption into the world and that corruption within mankind can only be overcome by an absolute belief in Jesus as your Lord and Savior.
> > Therefore praying for the sick is like patting Satan on the head and giving Satan the praise for evil deeds and probably makes things even worse. The Church should understand sickness for what it really is and join together to cast the demon influences out of a sick person. As Jesus said, "lay hands on the sick and they shall recover"
It could not possibly make things worse. I put my hand on David's arm when he was at death's door and prayed in faith. He recovered.
In Mar 16:17,18, Jesus said, "And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover."
David almost died, and he accepted Christ when he was young. His happiness was intense when he was filled with the Holy Spirit. His illness was not caused by demon possession. Where God is, a demon cannot enter.
Our prayers are answered according to our faith.
Luk_17:6 says, "And the Lord said, If ye had faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye might say unto this sycamine tree, Be thou plucked up by the root, and be thou planted in the sea; and it should obey you." Agape
INCOMING EMAIL, RE: Should you pray for the sick
I am 82 years old and have been living in Jesus and Jesus in me for over 50 years now. I know the words of Jesus better than the back of my hand.
So, no need to throw scripture at me as though I did not know them intimately. I took care of my wife of 26 years before she died from a brain tumor, so I know tragedy and hurt and all that goes with that. She is now in heaven with Jesus and I look forward to the time of being with her again in the company of Jesus. I write in short sound-bites in the attempt to get people to think. Christians usually when responding will take something out of the context in which they were written to support their own theology, like "demon possession" which I did not mention. We live in a world where demon possession and demon influence is rampant, overwhelming. I certainly know that turning to Jesus in these times is absolutely necessary to get people through all sorts of difficulties. So, I can say with absolute authority that satanic influence is controlling the world; the prince of the powers in the air. Yes, we will be caught up in all kinds of worldly situations because we are in the middle of it but Jesus is the only way, truth, life.---
I use scripture to back up what I believe, to prove my point. I don't assume that you don't know it. I hope you do know it. I just expect people to recognize that I made my point if it is backed by Scripture. Thus it is not just my human reasoning. Scripture is why I believe as I do.
For instance, Scripture shows that Satan is the god of this world. He can blind the minds of those that do not believe in Christ. You know this, and I know this.
We know it because 2Co_4:4 says, "In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them."
People that have not accepted Christ can and often are demon-possessed. People that have accepted Christ can not be demon-possessed. Christ "hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee." I assume that you know this already and agree with this.
Want to know some good news concerning your wife?
My husband Ed, 87, died on Dec. 27, 2011. On the following April 2, 2012, dressed in what looked like black silk long-sleeved shirt and pants, and wearing black shoes, he visited me in his celestial body. I asked him some questions as fast as I could get them out of my mouth.
I said, "Are you 30 or 33? He said, "33." You could look up some pictures of you both around that age. As for us, we were both at our best at 33. We had been too thin before that and got too heavy after that.
Before Ed died, I had said, "I love you so much, I want to be with you forever."
So, when he appeared, I asked him, "Can we be together forever?" He said, "Yes." What wonderful news that is. It sure makes waiting easier. I am really looking forward to that day. It will be the highlight of my life.
I always try to figure out when that could possibly take place. Right now, I am hoping for Thanksgiving/Hanukkah, Nov. 28. It is the day the comet ISON (which I take as "I SON") will be at perihelion. There are two more comets in the sky, Enke and Lovejoy. I don't know what Enke means, but I sure like the sound of Love and joy if that turns out to be Rapture day.
I also asked, "Have you gotten with your family? He said, "Yes."
I said, "Have you gotten with my family?" He said, "Yes."
I said, "Do you have a piano?" He said, "Yes" and walked through the wall.
I thought he would be happy while waiting for me to get there if he had a piano. He loved to play his piano, and near the end, he had enough of a stroke so that he could not work his fingers good enough to play it anymore. Bless his heart, that was sure a sad day.
> > "I was sitting at the kitchen table with others, one a hard-shell baptist woman. I got a phone call telling me that my grandson had been running a high fever for a few days. Concern for him was under discussion when the baptist woman said, let us all hold hands and pray for him. (Of course she prays to Father and not to the Name Jesus) I said no to that and said that I did not pray for the sick. Well, then it hit the fan as I continued under questions, that sickness was caused by Satan. She then went totally out of control saying she had prayed all of her life for the sick and refused to talk any more about it. I left under great criticism and went home. That is when I wrote the email about no prayer for the sick after going through the words of Jesus and most of the other books in the New Testament. I was aware of the one you found but did not find it at the time. Yes, I could have better handled the situation but I am a writer and not a preacher plus my hand an voice shake. Anyhow, this is something you can think about if you so desire"
I don't know about "hard-shell", but I am Baptist too. If that had been me, I would have agreed with her in a heartbeat.
Dear Heavenly Father, I pray now that his grandson will get well quickly. in Jesus' name, Amen.
I just keep in mind what Jesus said:
Mat_17:20: "verily (Strong's G281, amen, meaning firm, trustworthy, verily, so be it) I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and NOTHING SHALL BE IMPOSSIBLE UNTO YOU."
Luk_17:6: "And the Lord said, If ye had faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye might say unto this sycamine tree, Be thou plucked up by the root, and be thou planted in the sea; AND IT SHOULD OBEY YOU."
I was raised in a Methodist Church, and was baptized by sprinkling there.
However, before I met Ed, I had gone to his First Baptist Church for a year, and loved it. Instead of being told stories about the Bible, we opened our Bibles and learned without a doubt, what it actually said. So, I told Ed, I would change to his church. When we moved out of town, we joined a Baptist Church. I found out that baptizo meant to be fully wet, from bapto, to cover wholly with a fluid, i.e., be immersed, and I was baptized as Jesus was.
We have also gone to Bethany Baptist Church in Whittier, CA, Calvary Church of Santa Ana, CA, and Rolling Hills Covenent in Rolling Hills, CA. For me, it doesn't have to be Baptist, the pastor just has to read Scripture and tell us what it means. I like it best when he tells us what the original words mean, verse by verse. I like it when I can check out tapes of messages I have missed too. I could do that at Rolling Hills Covenent. At Bethany Baptist, I could check out books from their library.
I don't know everything about Scripture, I just want to know everything. I have studied as hard as I could go ever since 1960. I read books from BIOLA's Seminary Collection for 7 years. I have read 17 versions of the Bible all the way through, except for some of the begats. I have eSword and the KJV on my computer (both are free from eSword), so I can search for certain words. I go to places on the Internet like Blue-Letter Bible to compare different versions. I used to have lots of versions on my computer, but it ran out of memory and quit on me a few days after Ed died. That is why I now use Blue-Letter Bible. Have a wonderful day. Agape
Thanks for your good reply. I talked to Jesus about my grandson and then commanded Satan to remove his demons of sickness from him. I then asked Jesus to place a wall of protection around him as well as around all of my family and friends. Today Eric is back in school. There is power in the name of Jesus. You are one of my friends.---
That news about your grandson is what I needed to hear. Thank you for answering our prayers, Lord.
I'm honored to be counted as your friend. All who have accepted Jesus as their Lord and Saviour are bound together in the group called the Bride of Christ. We are the wise virgins and the Philadelphian Church. We are the group that will take part in the First-Trump Rapture of I Thess 4:16,17.
The Laodiceans, the 144,000 Israelites, and a great number that no one can count will be caught up in the Last-Trump Rapture of I Cor 15:51-54.
Then, all believers, you and I and Paul included, will actually become immortal.
> > Since I have used the tern "hard-shell baptist", I will give my definition of it. It is one who places their faith in their own knowledge and understanding of scripture rather than in the name and person of Jesus. Some are able to escape from that trap but the "hard-shell" is applied to those who place their own wall against being led by the Holy Spirit to the Truth. The words of Jesus that say that He, Jesus, has received all power and authority on earth and in heaven seem to mean nothing to them.
Then I don't think that applies to me. God was in Jesus reconciling the world unto himself. When we are in New Jerusalem, we will still see God in the face of Jesus.
Rev 22:3,4 says, "And there shall be no more curse: but the throne (one throne) of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him: 4 And they shall see his face (one face); and his name (one name) shall be in their foreheads."
I just went to YourSky, and found that the sign of Rev 12 was in the sky Sunday, Oct. 6, 13, but not on the Feast of Trumpets, Sept. 5. It seems possible that the Hillel Hebrew Calendar may be off a bit in our days. However, Oct 5 seems to be the latest date Trumpets can fall on.
"In terms of the Gregorian calendar, the earliest date on which Rosh Hashanah can fall is September 5, as happened in 1899 and again in 2013. The latest date that Rosh Hashanah can occur relative to the Gregorian dates is October 5, as happened in 1967 and will happen again in 2043."
I put the chart at the top so you can see how the sign looks. I wish I could put it here, but I don't know how to do that. Drag and drop doesn't work.
Virgo is bathed with the Sun. It has just gone down in the chart I happened to copy. Saturn is Heaven, so it seems significant that it is under Virgo's feet now. We are probably close to the Rapture.
Eze 1:1 says, "...the heavens were opened, and I saw visions of God."
Eze 1:15 "Now as I beheld the living creatures (i.e., lively flying things), behold one wheel (i.e., orbit) upon the EARTH by the living creatures (lively flying things, the four terrestrial planets), with his four faces." Those four faces were on the flags at the compass points when the Israelites camped around the Tabernacle.
Eze 1:26-28 says, "And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone (sapphire is from the Sanskrit, Sani, Saturn, and priya, dear): and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man (i.e., the only man/God is Jesus) above upon it. 27 And I saw as the colour of amber (Saturn is amber), as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins (i.e., from the equator) even upward, and from the appearance of his loins even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness round about (i.e., Saturn's rings). 28 As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD."
Jesus was conceived on Kislev 24 (Haggai 2:18,19), and was born on the following Feast of Trumpets, so the heavenly blue sapphire is his birthstone, and even today, it still means heaven.
Hag 2:18 Consider now from this day and upward, from the four and twentieth day of the ninth month, even from the day that the foundation of the LORD'S temple was laid, consider it.
Hag 2:19 Is the seed (i.e., Jesus, Gen 3:15) yet in the barn? (a saying, meaning is she pregnant) yea (YES), as yet the vine (Jesus), and the fig tree (Israel), and the pomegranate (the upright), and the olive tree (Israel with the Gentiles grafted in), hath not brought forth: from this day will I bless you."
The next day is Kislev 25, Hanukkah. I hope this will be the day of our Rapture. This year it is also our Thanksgiving. This has not happened since 1888, and it will not happen again for 29,043 years. We will sure give thanks if it turns out to be the day of the First-Trump Rapture. I will be reunited with Ed and you will be reunited with your wife. Oh, happy day.
Sapphire appears in the symbolic lineup of the planets in Eze. 28.
Eze 28:12-16 says, "Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus (rock, standing for Satan's planet Rahab, now our Asteroid Belt), and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. 13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering (i.e., surroundings), the sardius (Mercury), topaz (Venus), and the diamond (Earth), the beryl (Mars), the onyx (Rahab), and the jasper (Jupiter), the SAPPHIRE(Saturn), the emerald (Uranus), and the carbuncle (Neptune), and gold (Pluto): the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. 14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire (i.e., on Rahab). 15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. 16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God (i.e., from Saturn): and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire" (i.e., from Rahab).
Isa 51:9 says, "Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the LORD (i.e., Jesus, Isa 53:1); awake, as in the ancient days, in the generations of old. Art thou not it that hath cut (lit., split) Rahab (i.e., Satan's planet), and wounded the dragon?" (Satan).
Rahab is our Asteroid Belt now. Satan has made his home on the asteroid Wormwood (Rev 8:11). It will hit Babylon on the Day of God's Wrath.
Isa. 22:16-19 says, "What hast thou here? (i.e., Babylon) and whom hast thou here (i.e., the Satan-possessed False Prophet), that thou hast hewed thee out a sepulchre here, as he (Satan) that heweth him out a sepulchre on high, and that graveth an habitation for himself in a rock? (i.e., in the asteroid Wormwood) 17 Behold, the LORD will carry thee away with a mighty captivity, and will surely cover thee. 18 He will surely violently turn and TOSS THEE LIKE A BALL into a large country: there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord's house. 19 And I will drive thee from thy station, and from thy state shall he pull thee down." Have a wonderful day. Agape
I thank our Lord Jesus that we are in agreement. You have given me a lot to think about. Yes, I too am excited about Thanksgiving and Christmas and the coming of the comet Ison, and the Rapture any day now. According to the words of Jesus in Math 24 it seems clear to me that something big must happen in Israel before that time comes. We shall see.
As for me, I sure have more to think about. Israel is going to build a Synagogue in the Al Aqsa compound on the Temple Mount.
I have done a lot of work on the location of the Temple. I made up a packet and sent it to the Temple Institute. I told them why Tuvia Sagiv was right about where the Temple was located. After that, they still say the Temple has to be where the Dome of the Rock is located.
To me, it isn't hard to figure out. The aquaduct enters the Temple Mount and immediately turns SE, heading toward the Al Kas Fountain and the cisterns. The water from the Ein-Etiam spring came by the way of Solomon's Pools to the Temple. It came to the Temple Mount in that aquaduct, and it would have been impossible for it to have supplied water to the Dome of the Rock, which rested right on bedrock, and it was north of the entry of the aquaduct.
Besides that, the rock in the Dome of the Rock is too wide to fit in the Holy of Holies.
If I remember right, Josephus said that that rock was 70 ft. tall, paved with stone tiles so no one would climb it, and it was just north of the southern wall of Fort Antonia. Someone has hewn that rock down to what exists in the Dome of the Rock today. When I went to Wikipedia to read about that rock, I found a picture that looks like it has a huge face of Satan on it, and he is sticking out his tongue....
The Temple was in the area between the Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa Mosque, over the Al Kas Fountain. It was lower than ground level today, maybe as low as the floor at the Hulda gates on the southern wall of the Temple Mount. Rome brought in a lot of soil to cover everything up.
I hope Israel will find the foundation of the Temple when they dig down to build the foundation of the Synagogue. They just might build the Temple instead. Everything is ready, the stones, the trained priests that can build it, the red heifer, etc. The priests say they can build it in 3 months.
We live in interesting times. The Rapture seems near. I look at Ed's picture and tell him I might be with him Nov. 28, that is both our Thanksgiving and the first day of Hanukkah. It is the day the comet ISON will be at perihelion. There are two other comets in the sky, Enke and Lovejoy. Love and joy will sure fit the day of the Rapture.
Nov. 3 is when ISON (4 miles in diameter) will cross Earth's path. It is also the day of the rare Hybrid Eclipse. We are getting signs.
When ISON passed Mars, Mars glowed like the tail of a comet and ISON glowed green. I wonder what will happen to Earth when it goes through the debris field of ISON. These are interesting days. Agape
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