Pro and Con 1777

Posted 1-6-14

ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF GOD'S ARTISTRY

MY REPLY TO A DISCUSSION I HAD ON CHRISTMAS, PART 3 OF 3

Quotes are from "A List of Biblical Contradictions (1992)"
By Jim Meritt
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_meritt/bible-contradictions.html#equal_or_lesser

II Cor. 12:2-5 says, "I knew a man in Christ (Paul himself, he didn't want to boast) above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one CAUGHT UP (harpazo, taken by force, i.e., Raptured) TO THE THIRD HEAVEN (i.e., Saturn). 3 And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) 4 How that he was caught up (harpazo, taken by force, i.e., Raptured) into paradise (paradeisos, a place of future happiness, i.e., Heaven), and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter. Of such an one will I glory: yet of myself I will not glory, but in mine infirmities."

Eze 1:1 "the heavens were opened, and I saw visions of God."

First, he saw the four terrestrial planets (including Earth, v. 15) orbiting in concentric circles that looked like wheels within wheels.

Eze 1:26-28 says, "And above the firmament (expanse of space) that was over their heads (i.e., farther out in space than the terrestrial planets) was the likeness (figurative language) of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone (sapphire means dear to the planet Saturn, from the Sanskrit, Sani, and priya, dear): and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man (i.e., the only God/man Jesus) above upon it. 27 And I saw as the colour of amber, as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins (from the equator) even upward, and from the appearance of his loins even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness round about (i.e., Saturn's rings). 28 As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD."

Also, the sapphire is Jesus' September birthstone, which means heaven. The King of kings was born on the Feast of Trumpets.

We get another view of the throne of the God/man Jesus in Rev. 4:1-6.

"behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither (i.e., in the First-Trump Rapture), and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter. 2 And immediately I was (i.e., became) in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne. 3 And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper (last stone in the breastplate) and a sardine stone (the first stone in the breastplate, i.e., Jesus is the first and the last): and there was a rainbow (i.e., Saturn's rings) round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald. 4 And round about the throne were four and twenty seats (thrones): and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders (12 patriarchs and 12 apostles of Israel) sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold. 5 And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire (i.e., the Temple lampstand represented these, Sun, Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn) burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God. 6 And before the throne there was a sea of glass (i.e., Saturn's rings) like unto crystal" (krustallos, ice).

Since Jesus was sitting on the throne, a Lamb representing him took the 7-sealed book.

In Rev 1:8, Jesus said, "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty."

Rev 22:13 says, "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last."

Jesus is "LORD" of the Old Testament and "Lord" of the New Testament in the KJV.

> > JOB 38:4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth?
> > declare, if thou hast understanding.

Job 38:1-11 says, "Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said, 2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge? 3 Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me. 4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. 5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? 6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; 7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God (bene ha Elohim, i.e., angels) shouted for joy? 8 Or WHO SHUT UP THE SEA WITH DOORS, WHEN IT BRAKE FORTH, AS IF IT HAD ISSUED OUT OF THE WOMB? 9 When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddlingband for it, 10 And BRAKE UP FOR IT MY DECREED PLACE (i.e., the Pacific Basin), and set bars and doors, 11 And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but no further: and HERE SHALL THY PROUD WAVES BE STAYED?"

> > Heaven supported too
> > JOB 26:11 The pillars of heaven tremble and are astonished at his reproof.

Pillars are figurative support, not literal posts. Literal pillars cannot be astonished.

Look at Rev 3:11-13. It says, "Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown. 12 Him that overcometh will I make a PILLAR (stulos, [figuratively] support) in the temple of my God, and HE shall go no more out: and I will write upon HIM the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon HIM my new name. 13 HE THAT HATH AN EAR, LET HIM HEAR what the Spirit saith unto the churches."

> > The hydrological cycle
> > ECC 1:7 All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full; unto the place from whence the rivers come, thither they return again.
> > JOB 38:22 Hast thou entered into the treasures of the snow? or hast thou seen the treasures of the hail
> > Storehouses are not part of the cycle

As it turns out, storehouses do seem to be part of the water cycle, which would include hail. Just recently, man has found out that there is fresh water under our ocean floors.

"HUGE FRESH GROUNDWATER RESERVES FOUND BENEATH OCEAN FLOOR"
http://www.sci-news.com/geology/science-fresh-groundwater-reserves-ocean-01606.html Dec 6, 2013 - by Sci-News.com

"According to a group of researchers led by Dr Vincent Post from the Australia’s National Center for Groundwater Research and Training and Flinders University, about 500,000 cubic km of freshwater are buried beneath the seabed on continental shelves around the world."

> > Who was at the Empty Tomb? Is it:
> > MAT 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
> > MAR 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.
> > JOH 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.

All these statements are true. Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome came to the empty tomb.

> > ACT 1:18: "Now this man (Judas) purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out."
> > MAT 27:5-7: "And he (Judas) cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself. And the chief priests...bought with them the potter's field."

Read them in the proper order. Judas hanged himself, then fell and burst asunder.

> > Jesus' first sermon plain or mount?
> > MAT 5:1,2: "And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him: And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying...."
> > LUK 6:17,20: "And he came down with them, and stood in the plain, and the company of his disciples, and a great multitude of people...came to hear him.. And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples and said..."

On the mountain, Jesus taught the disciples the Beatitudes. On the plain, he taught the Beatitudes to both the disciples and a great multitude of people.

Here is an example of an astounding miracle that many miss. The ship was in the middle of the Sea of Galilee, then "IMMEDIATELY THE SHIP WAS AT THE LAND WHITHER THEY WENT." It was teleported about 4 miles IMMEDIATELY, from the middle of the sea to Capernaum.

Joh 6:15-21 says, "When Jesus therefore perceived that they would come and take him by force, to make him a king, he departed again into a mountain himself alone. 16 And when even was now come, his disciples went down unto the sea, 17 And entered into a ship, and went over the sea toward Capernaum. And it was now dark, and Jesus was not come to them. 18 And the sea arose by reason of a great wind that blew. 19 So when they had rowed about five and twenty or thirty furlongs, they see Jesus walking on the sea, and drawing nigh unto the ship: and they were afraid. 20 But he saith unto them, It is I; be not afraid. 21 Then they willingly received him into the ship: AND IMMEDIATELY THE SHIP WAS AT THE LAND WHITHER THEY WENT."

I hope that in the Rapture, we that have "willingly received him" will go to Heaven immediately. Jesus took the Old Testament saints to the third heaven, Saturn, and came back on the same day, Resurrection Sunday, so it is possible.

> > Jesus' last words
> > MAT 27:46,50: "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?" that is to say, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" ...Jesus, when he cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost."
> > LUK 23:46: "And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, "Father, unto thy hands I commend my spirit:" and having said thus, he gave up the ghost."
> > JOH 19:30: "When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, "It is finished:" and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost."

We have to put all the accounts together to get the whole story. Jesus said several things. These are first-hand accounts, written by three people who were there. Each told what they remembered.

Mat 27:45-53 says, "Now from the sixth hour (noon) there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour (3 PM). 46 And about the ninth hour (3 PM) Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? 47 Some of them that stood there, when they heard that, said, This man calleth for Elias. 48 And straightway one of them ran, and took a spunge, and filled it with vinegar, and put it on a reed, and gave him to drink. 49 The rest said, Let be, let us see whether Elias will come to save him. 50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost. 51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; 52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many."

Mar 15:25-39 says, "And it was the third hour (9 AM), and they crucified him. 26 And the superscription of his accusation was written over, THE KING OF THE JEWS. 27 And with him they crucify two thieves; the one on his right hand, and the other on his left. 28 And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors. 29 And they that passed by railed on him, wagging their heads, and saying, Ah, thou that destroyest the temple, and buildest it in three days, 30 Save thyself, and come down from the cross. 31 Likewise also the chief priests mocking said among themselves with the scribes, He saved others; himself he cannot save. 32 Let Christ the King of Israel descend now from the cross, that we may see and believe. And they that were crucified with him reviled him. 33 And when the sixth hour (noon) was come, there was darkness over the whole land until the ninth hour (3 PM). 34 And at the ninth hour (3 PM) Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? 35 And some of them that stood by, when they heard it, said, Behold, he calleth Elias. 36 And one ran and filled a spunge full of vinegar, and put it on a reed, and gave him to drink, saying, Let alone; let us see whether Elias will come to take him down. 37 And Jesus cried with a loud voice, and gave up the ghost. 38 And the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom. 39 And when the centurion, which stood over against him, saw that he so cried out, and gave up the ghost, he said, Truly this man was the Son of God."

Luk 23:33-46 says, "And when they were come to the place, which is called Calvary, there they crucified him, and the malefactors, one on the right hand, and the other on the left. 34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots. 35 And the people stood beholding. And the rulers also with them derided him, saying, He saved others; let him save himself, if he be Christ, the chosen of God. 36 And the soldiers also mocked him, coming to him, and offering him vinegar, 37 And saying, If thou be the king of the Jews, save thyself. 38 And a superscription also was written over him in letters of Greek, and Latin, and Hebrew, THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS. 39 And one of the malefactors which were hanged railed on him, saying, If thou be Christ, save thyself and us. 40 But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation? 41 And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss. 42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom. 43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise. 44 And it was about the sixth hour (noon), and there was a darkness over all the earth until the ninth hour (3 PM). 45 And the sun was darkened, and the veil of the temple was rent in the midst. 46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost."

Joh 19:14-31 says, "And it was the preparation of the passover (i.e., THURSDAY, April 6, 30 AD, Jesus was the son of David, and our son David was born on April 6), the day before Passover, Friday), and about the sixth hour (9 AM, Roman time)): and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King! 15 But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar. 16 Then delivered he him therefore unto them to be crucified. And they took Jesus, and led him away. 17 And he bearing his cross went forth into a place called the place of a skull, which is called in the Hebrew Golgotha: 18 Where they crucified him, and two other with him, on either side one, and Jesus in the midst. 19 And Pilate wrote a title, and put it on the cross. And the writing was, JESUS OF NAZARETH THE KING OF THE JEWS. 20 This title then read many of the Jews: for the place where Jesus was crucified was nigh to the city (i.e., it was at what is now the Church of the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem, not at what is called the Garden Tomb): and it was written in Hebrew, and Greek, and Latin. 21 Then said the chief priests of the Jews to Pilate, Write not, The King of the Jews; but that he said, I am King of the Jews. 22 Pilate answered, What I have written I have written. 23 Then the soldiers, when they had crucified Jesus, took his garments, and made four parts, to every soldier a part; and also his coat: now the coat was without seam, woven from the top throughout. 24 They said therefore among themselves, Let us not rend it, but cast lots for it, whose it shall be: that the scripture might be fulfilled, which saith, They parted my raiment among them, and for my vesture they did cast lots. These things therefore the soldiers did. 25 Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene. 26 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son! 27 Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home. 28 After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst. 29 Now there was set a vessel full of vinegar: and they filled a spunge with vinegar, and put it upon hyssop, and put it to his mouth. 30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. 31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation (i.e., Thursday), that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day (i.e., Passover), (for that sabbath day was an high day (Passover was an annual Sabbath), besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away."

HOLY FIRE

> > CRUEL, UNMERCIFUL, DESTRUCTIVE, and FEROCIOUS or KIND, MERCIFUL, and GOOD:
> > "I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy." (JER 13:14) "Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not, but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling."
> > "The Lord is very pitiful and of tender mercy." (JAS 5:11)
"For his mercy endureth forever." (1CH 16:34)
"The Lord is good to all, and his tender mercies are over all his works." (PSA 145:9)
"God is love." (1JO 4:16)

God wiped out the hybrid angel/man beings, mainly with Noah's Flood. Israel was told to wipe out those that appeared after that. Several of their tribal names ended with im. Satan evidently tried to mix angelic DNA with human DNA again after the Flood. God had those destroyed. He wanted human DNA intact so Jesus would be purely human.

"Emims
http://classic.net.bible.org/dictionary.php?word=Emims
"a warlike tribe of giants who were defeated by Chedorlaomer and his allies in the plain of Kiriathaim. In the time of Abraham they occupied the country east of Jordan, afterwards the land of the Moabites (Gen. 14:5; Deut. 2:10). They were, like the Anakim, reckoned among the Rephaim, and were conquered by the Moabites, who gave them the name of Emims, i.e., "terrible men" (Deut. 2:11). The Ammonites called them Zamzummims (2:20)."

David killed Goliath with a sling and a stone. That stone probably represents the asteroid Wormwood that will destroy Babylon.

Gen 6:1-4 says, "And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2 That the sons of God (i.e., angels) saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. 3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. 4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown."

Job 1:6,7 says, "Now there was a day when the SONS OF GOD (i.e., angels) came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. 7 And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it."

Heb_2:7 says, "Thou madest him (Jesus, a man) a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands: Heb_2:9 says, "But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man."

When Ed came to see me in his celestial body, I asked him if there were female angels in heaven. He said, "Yes." Therefore, the angels were created male an female like we are. The reason I asked, those angels mentioned in the Bible are all in the masculine gender.

> > Tempts?
> > "And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham." (GEN 22:1) > > "Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God; for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man." (JAS 1:13)

Gen 22:1 says, "And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt (nasah, prove, test) Abraham, and said unto him, Abraham: and he said, Behold, here I am."

> > Ascend to heaven
> > "And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven." (2KI 2:11)
> > "No man hath ascended up to heaven but he that came down from heaven, ... the Son of Man." (JOH 3:13)

No man can ascend to heaven by his own power. Jesus did that on both Resurrection Day and Ascension Day. He took the Old Testament saints (waiting in "Abraham's bosom", a compartment in the Earth) to heaven on Resurrection Day and came back that same day. He could not be touched between his Resurrection and his return from Heaven. That evening, he could be touched.

In the Old Testament days, God took two prophets to heaven.

Gen 5:22-24 says, "And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters: 23 And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years: 24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for GOD TOOK HIM."

2Ki 2:11 says, "And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven."

Luk 16:22-26 says, "And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into ABRAHAM'S BOSOM: the rich man also died, and was buried; 23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. 25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. 26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence."

> > How many children did Michal, the daughter of Saul, have?
> > 2SA 6:23 Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no child unto the day of her death.
> > 2SA 21:8 But the king took the two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bare unto Saul, Armoni and Mephibosheth; and the five sons of Michal the daughter of Saul, whom she brought up for Adriel the son of Barzillai the Meholathite:

She didn't have any of her own, but she raised the five sons of Adriel.

> > Did those with Saul/Paul at his conversion hear a voice?
> > ACT 9:7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.
> > ACT 22:9 And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.

They head a sound, but not the voice of the Lord. Maybe the sound kept them from hearing what Paul heard.

> > How long was Jesus in the tomb?
> > Depends where you look; MAT 12:40 gives Jesus prophesying that he will spend "three days and three nights in the heart of the earth," and MAR 10:34 has "after three days (meta treis emeras) he will rise again." As far as I can see from a quick look, the prophecies have "after three days," but the post-Resurrection narratives have "on the third day."

Jesus was in the tomb three days and three nights. Hebrew days start at our 6 PM with 12 hours of night. Then comes the 12 hours of day.

Mt. 12:40 says, "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Thursday, "preparation of the passover", Crucifixion Day
Friday, Feast of Passover, night then day
Saturday, Feast of Unleavened Bread, night then day
Sunday, Feast of Firstfruits, night

Joh_19:14 "And it was the PREPARATION OF THE PASSOVER, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!"
Joh_19:31 "The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day (i.e., Passover was an annual sabbath,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away."
Joh_19:42 "There laid they Jesus therefore because of the Jews' preparation day; for the sepulchre was nigh at hand."

Mat_16:21 " From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day."

Friday
Saturday
Sunday

Mat_17:23 "And they shall kill him, and the third day he shall be raised again."
Mat_20:19 "And shall deliver him to the Gentiles to mock, and to scourge, and to crucify him: and the third day he shall rise again."
Mat_27:64 "Command therefore that the sepulchre be made sure until the third day".
Mar_9:31 "For he taught his disciples, and said unto them, The Son of man is delivered into the hands of men, and they shall kill him; and after that he is killed, he shall rise the third day."
Mar_10:34 "And they shall mock him, and shall scourge him, and shall spit upon him, and shall kill him: and the third day he shall rise again."
Luk_24:46 "And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day".
Act_10:40 Him God raised up the third day".
Luk_9:22 "Saying, The Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be slain, and be raised the third day."
Luk_13:32 "And he said unto them, Go ye, and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out devils, and I do cures to day (Tuesday) and to morrow (Wednesday), and the third day (Thursday) I shall be perfected."
Luk_18:33 "And they shall scourge him, and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again."
Luk_24:7 "Saying, The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again."
Luk_24:21 "But we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this, to day is the third day since these things were done."

Friday
Saturday
Sunday

> > When second coming?

> > MAT 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
> > MAR 13:30 Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.
> > LUK 21:32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.
> > (See also 1TH 4:15-18)

I think the Second Advent will be Nisan 1, 5776, Sat. April 9, 2006, the anniversary of Jesus' resurrection on April 9, 30 AD.

Maybe the Rapture will be next Ascension Day. It will be on our daughter Carol's birthday, May 29, 2014, in both Eastern and Western churches.

The 40th day of counting the Omer will be Iyar 25, Sun. May 25. In 30 AD, the disciples waited 40 days before the resurrected Jesus ascended on Iyar 25. Maybe we will have to wait 40 days before we ascend on Iyar 25. Agape

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