Pro and Con 1783

Posted 2-1-14

WOW! THIS FLOWER LOOKS LIKE IT HAS A STRANGE ANIMAL IN ITS GRASP.
COULD THAT BE A REAL INSECT? IT'S COLOR SUGGESTS IT IS PART OF THE FLOWER.

A POST ON FIVE DOVES, Ola Ilori (23 Jan 2014) "Firstfruits and the Lord's Supper"

Jesus said, "...I am the Resurrection..." (John 11:25)

The Word also says,
"...Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the First-fruits of those who have fallen asleep." (1Cor.15:20)

Doing good from the love of Jesus Christ in us, according to the truths of His Word, is the evidence that we have His firstfruits.

"Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth—those who have done good, to the resurrection..." [5:28,29]

It's these firstfruits the Lord is going to "lock on to" on the Day of Firstfruits and resurrect and translate all those who have them.

Now consider the following:

The Lord said,

"Whoever eats My flesh [the bread] and drinks my blood [the wine] has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the Last Day." (John 6:54)

The "Last Day" in the above verse, is the Day of first-fruits and it's observed on the 16th Day of the 1st Month on the Torah Calendar.

http://www.torahcalendar.com/

It comes 3 days after observing the Lord's Supper on the 14th Day of the 1st Month!

For we read,

"...and when He [the Lord] had given thanks He broke it [that is, the bread] and said,

"Take eat, this is My body which is broken for you; do this [on the 14th Day of the 1st Month] in remembrance of Me."

In the same manner He also took the cup after Supper, saying,

"This cup is the new covenant in my My blood. This do, as often as you drink it, [on the 14th Day of the 1st Month] in remembrance of Me

For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord's death till He comes.

I believe "till He comes" in the above verse is referring to the Lord's coming on the Day of First-fruits!

On the 16th Day of the 1st Month 33 AD,

"...the graves were opened, and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised; and coming out of the graves after His resurrection..." [Matt.27:52,53]

I believe that the resurrection of these saints, on the Day of first-fruits 1,981 Years ago, is a foretaste, a preview, if you will, of the resurrection and translation of the saints to occur, on the Day of first-fruits at the End of the Christian Church Age.

I believe we are to observe the Lord's Supper on Monday the 14th of April 2014 [The 14th Day of the 1st Month Year 6000], and then expect the Lord to come for us, 3 days later on Wednesday the 16th of April 2014 [the 16th Day of the 1st Month Year 6000]!

Let us continue to hope, with great anticipation, for the Lord's coming on First-fruits!

MY REPLY

> > It's these firstfruits the Lord is going to "lock on to" on the Day of Firstfruits and resurrect and TRANSLATE all those who have them....

> > I believe that the resurrection of these saints, on the Day of first-fruits 1,981 Years ago, is a foretaste, a preview, if you will, of the resurrection and translation of the saints to occur, on the Day of first-fruits at the End of the Christian Church Age.

> > I believe we are to observe the Lord's Supper on Monday the 14th of April 2014 [The 14th Day of the 1st Month Year 6000], and then expect the Lord to come for us, 3 days later on Wednesday the 16th of April 2014 [the 16th Day of the 1st Month Year 6000]!

> > Let us continue to hope, with great anticipation, for the Lord's coming on First-fruits!

I think you are close. Jesus was resurrected that day. The counting of the Omer starts then. Jesus was the Firstfruit of the barley harvest. We could be the rest of the barley harvest on Omer 40 or on Ascension Day.

I am looking for the First-Trump Rapture on Omer 40, May 25, Iyar 25, or on Ascension Day, May 29, Iyar 29. Jesus acted it out, first at the transfiguration, and then on Ascension Day. It looks like Moses and Elijah appeared both times.

Sunday, 25 May, 2014 will be 25 Iyar, 5774.
Thu, 29 May, 2014 will be 29 Iyar, Ascension Day in both Eastern and Western churches this year.

"Mem B'Omer and the Ascension of Yeshua - Hebrew for Christians
www.hebrew4christians.com/Holidays/...Holidays/...HaOmer/.../ascensio...?
"40th day of the Omer Count (i.e., Mem B'Omer on Iyyar 25)."

I favor Ascension Day, Iyar 29, May 29. That was the day Jesus ascended in 30 AD, and it is our daughter's birthday. That could be significant for our son David was born on Crucifixion Day, April 6.

Luk 21:25=32 says, "THERE SHALL BE SIGNS IN THE SUN, AND IN THE MOON (i.e., the Tetrad of eclipses), AND IN THE STARS; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; THE SEA AND THE WAVES ROARING (i.e., as at Sendai, Japan); 26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. 27 And THEN SHALL THEY SEE THE SON OF MAN COMING IN A CLOUD (i.e., the SIGN OF THE SON OF MAN) with power and great glory. 28 AND WHEN THESE THINGS BEGIN TO COME TO PASS (i.e., the first eclipse of the tetrad on April 15, 2014, Feast of Unleavened Bread), THEN LOOK UP, AND LIFT UP YOUR HEADS; FOR YOUR REDEMPTION DRAWETH NIGH." 29 And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees; 30 When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand (so it is still spring, i.e., before June 21). 31 SO LIKEWISE YE, WHEN YE SEE THESE THINGS COME TO PASS, KNOW YE THAT THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS NIGH AT HAND. 32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled."

> > "Whoever eats My flesh [the bread] and drinks my blood [the wine] has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the Last Day." (John 6:54)

Joh 6:62 says, "What and if ye shall see the Son of man ASCEND up where he was before?"

Could that suggest Ascension Day? Agape

INCOMING EMAIL, RE: Blood red moons

There has been a lot of promotion and talk about the coming alignment of the earth, moon, and sun. It is a unique occurrence due to begin April 15th of this year.

I want to remind the folks that the words of Jesus in Matthew 24 indicate that that alignment will be coming after the beginning of the great tribulation and the removal of the elect from the earth.

So, that means that between now and April 15th we should be expecting some gigantic world event if in fact the alignment and the results go as expected. Things in the world seem to be moving in that direction while those of us in the US goes happily down the road.

MY REPLY

> > the words of Jesus in Matthew 24 indicate that that alignment will be coming after the beginning of the great tribulation and the removal of the elect from the earth.

Why does the first Lunar Eclipse of the upcoming Tetrad have to come after "the removal of the elect from the earth"?

I think we are somewhere near Mid-Trib. I also think the Rapture of the elect will probably be on Ascension Day, May 29, 2014, but would love for it to come sooner. Please tell me why you think it will come before the Lunar Eclipse on the Feast of Unleavened Bread, April 15.

Ed visited me in his celestial body on April 2, 2012. I was with him that day. I was propped up in bed to watch TV, but hadn't turned it on yet. He stood right by my elbow, but not touching me, and I thought, "No touch," and started asking him questions. Could that date have anything to do with my being reunited with him this year? April 2 will be on Wednesday this year, just about 2 weeks before the Lunar eclipse on Tue, April 15.

He would love to do that, and he was grinning ear to ear, as in that picture I posted. He was so happy that he could come and surprise me like that. Instead of being 87, he was 33.

Just think about the people left behind, then in a few days that Lunar Eclipse would start the final tetrad. That would get their attention, especially that of the Laodiceans. That should make them get their act together. Agape

INCOMING EMAIL, Re: Blood red moons

Well Marilyn, in Math 24 and Mark 13 the Lord Jesus shortened the days and this is before verse 29 (Math) when the sun is darkened and the moon shall not give her light. I do not know about dates but I believe we can experience actual events. Let us wait and see what happens at the Super Bowl game Sunday. It could be an earth changing event.

We just may be with our special mate very soon.

MY REPLY

Thanks. Hope makes waiting easier. However, I just found out something that makes me think the Rapture will be after the first eclipse of the last tetrad on April 15. See what you think.

The First-Trump Rapture will take place before Mat 24:31, the day of the Last-Trump Rapture. It says, "And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of HEAVEN to the other." That group is already in Heaven.

Mar 13:27 includes those caught up in the Last-Trump Rapture. It says, "And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the EARTH to the uttermost part of heaven."

Luk 21:25-28 says, "THERE SHALL BE SIGNS IN THE SUN, AND IN THE MOON, AND IN THE STARS; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; 26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. 27 And then (tote, at that time) shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 AND WHEN THESE THINGS BEGIN (i.e., the first eclipse of the last Tetrad on April 15, 2014 takes place) TO COME TO PASS, THEN LOOK UP (anakupto, RISE, LIFT UP), AND LIFT UP YOUR HEADS; FOR YOUR REDEMPTION (apolutrosis, DELIVERANCE, i.e., Rapture) DRAWETH NIGH."

THE BEGINNING COULD BE THE FIRST LUNAR ECLIPSE OF THE TETRAD, APRIL 15, AND THE RAPTURE COULD BE ON ASCENSION DAY, MAY 29.

And how about this END-TIME NEWS? This just might have a bearing on our subject, the Rapture.

"VATICAN CITY - The Vatican confirmed on Sunday that Pope Francis would visit Israel this year, which would make him only the fourth pontiff to visit the Holy Land in the modern era. "The visit comes during a period of dramatic outreach for the Roman Catholic Church under Francis – not only to other faiths but also to groups often marginalized by the church in the past – and fairly early in Francis's papacy. Francis will have been pope for just over 14 months when he travels to Israel, Jordan and the West Bank on May 24-25."

MAY 24-25 IS JUST BEFORE ASCENSION DAY, MAY 29/IYAR 29, our daughter's birthday.

"The Vatican said Sunday that the current Orthodox patriarch, Bartholomew, will join Francis to celebrate Mass at the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem.

"Francis is also expected to renew the Vatican's long-standing call for peace between Israel and Palestine"....

"During his visit to Rome last year, Peres praised the gradual thawing of once icy relations between Israel and the Vatican, declaring that relations between the two states were "now at their best in the last 2,000 years." Agape

INCOMING EMAIL, RE: Crucifixion

Marilyn you quoted

> > Jesus ate the Last Supper on Thursday, was betrayed and arrested on Thursday, crucified on Thursday, died on Thursday, and was buried on Thursday. He arose on Sunday night, which came before Sunday day.

If Jesus ate the last supper on Thursday evening, THEN HOW ON EARTH could He have been nailed to the cross in the third hour (9am) on Thursday morning? HOW in the world did you make Thursday even fall before Thursday morning?

HOW IN THE WORLD did you make Sunday night come and go before Sunday morning?

MY REPLY

> > HOW in the world did you make Thursday even fall before Thursday morning?

That's the way the Hebrew Calendar works.

It is easy to get mixed up, because we are not used to night coming before day. We get up in the morning and call the daylight "day" then the darkness "night." To us, the day comes before the night.

Hebrew days are different. Night precedes Day.

Hebrew dates all begin at 6 PM on the previous day, so their 12 hours of night come before their 12 hours of day. Nisan 13 begins at 6 PM on Nisan 12. It runs for 24 hours, 12 of the night, then 12 of the day.

hebrew-day1-30-14
"Jewish Calendar Date
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/526873/jewish/The-Jewish-Day.htm "When G-d created time, He first created night and then day. Therefore, a Jewish calendar date begins with the night beforehand. While a day in the secular calendar begins and ends at midnight, a Jewish day goes from nightfall to nightfall."

Gen 1:5 says, "And the evening and the morning were the first day."

At 6 PM on Wednesday evening, Thursday, Nisan 13 began. Jesus ate the Last Supper, then he was taken prisoner in the night. The next morning was still Nisan 13. Sentence was pronounced around 9 AM. He was crucified soon afterward. At noon, darkness descended on them. Jesus died about 3 PM as the priests were starting to kill the Passover Lambs at the Temple. He was buried before Nisan 14, the Feast of Passover started at 6 PM Thursday. Agape

INCOMING EMAIL, RE: U.S. Tsunami watch begins Feb 2014

Will a Tsunami disaster hit the U.S. Westcoast in Feb 2014 according to the filfullment of Dan 11:22? If it does, I pray you will take heed to the 1-page Prophecy Study that I relay to you after the Tsunami hits! God Bless, Doc

MY REPLY

Dan 11:21-24 says, "And in his estate (ken, office) shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries. 22 And with THE ARMS OF A FLOOD (i.e., a tsunami) shall they be overflown from before him, and shall be broken; yea, also the prince of the covenant. 23 And after the league made with him he shall work deceitfully: for he shall come up, and shall become strong with a small people. 24 He shall enter peaceably even upon the fattest places of the province; and he shall do that which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers' fathers; he shall scatter among them the prey, and spoil, and riches: yea, and he shall forecast his devices against the strong holds, even for a time."

That says nothing about the "U.S. West Coast."

The only two verses I can find that speak of the United States are 2 Samuel 7:23 and I Chronicles 17:21.

2Sa_7:23, says, "And what one (echad, united) nation (i.e., the United States) in the earth is like thy people, even like Israel, whom God went to redeem for a people to himself, and to make him a name, and to do for you great things and terrible, for thy land, before thy people, which thou redeemedst to thee from Egypt, from the nations and their gods?"

I Ch 17: 21 says, "And what one (echad, united) nation (i.e., the United States) in the earth is like thy people Israel, whom God went to redeem to be his own people, to make thee a name of greatness and terribleness, by driving out nations from before thy people, whom thou hast redeemed out of Egypt?"

Where is this tsunami to hit? It sounds to me like the NE Mediterranean Sea. Damascus will cease to be a city, and it is near that area.

Isa_17:1 says, "The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap." Think about Sendai, Japan.

Rev 8:8,9 says, "And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire (i.e., an asteroid) was cast into THE sea (i.e., the Mediterranean Sea): and the third part of the sea became blood; 9 And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed."

Lately, because of problems in Syria, and maybe because of nearby gas fields, there have been ships from several nations in that area. If an asteroid hits that area, not only will the asteroid explode on impact, but the undersea gas will explode.

Eze 38:18-23 says, "And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that MY FURY SHALL COME UP IN MY FACE. 19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day (i.e., the Day of the Lord, the Day of God's Wrath) there shall be a GREAT SHAKING IN THE LAND OF ISRAEL; 20 So that THE FISHES OF THE SEA (i.e., the sea that is by Israel, the Mediterranean Sea), and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake (i.e., in a worldwide earthquake) at my presence (paniym, face), and THE MOUNTAINS (i.e., asteroids, including Wormwood that will hit Babylon) SHALL BE THROWN DOWN, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground. 21 And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord GOD: every man's sword shall be against his brother. 22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, AN OVERFLOWING RAIN (i.e., a tsunami), and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone. 23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations (i.e., they will see the Sign of the Son of God in the sky), and they shall know that I am the LORD."

1967 (Six-Day War) + one generation 48.33 = 2015.33, or the Feast of Trumpets, Mon. Sept. 14, 2015, probably the Day of God's Wrath. On the Eve of Trumpets, there will be a Solar Eclipse.

Rev 6:12-17 says, "And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and THE SUN BECAME BLACK AS SACKCLOTH OF HAIR, AND THE MOON BECAME AS BLOOD; 13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. 14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from THE WRATH OF THE LAMB: 17 FOR THE GREAT DAY OF HIS WRATH IS COME; and who shall be able to stand?"

Rev 16:1-19 says, "And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done. 18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a GREAT EARTHQUAKE, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great. 19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and THE CITIES OF THE NATIONS FELL: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath."

I don't think we will be here that day. There are two Raptures. One will be on that awful day, but there will be one before that. I'm hoping it will be next Ascension Day, Thursday, May 29, 2014. The first Lunar eclipse of the Tetrad will be April 15, 2014, the Feast of Unleavened Bread (called Passover by the Jews). That will be a huge sign watchers won't miss. This is the last such Tetrad for maybe 879 years. That is out of the ballpark. This one is our sign. Instead of a tsunami watch, I am watching for the Rapture.

It seems to me that Jesus acted it out himself. He was resurrected on Sunday, April 9, 30 AD, and ascended 40 days later, on a Thursday. Moses and Elijah appeared that day.

Act 1:9-11 says, "And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. 10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; 11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven."

It was played out at the Transfiguration. When Jesus takes us up at the Mid-Trib Rapture, Moses and Elijah will appear on Earth as the two witnesses of Rev. 11.

Mat 17:1-3 says, "And after six days (i.e., 6000 years, end of man's test?) Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and BRINGETH THEM UP INTO AN HIGH MOUNTAIN APART (i.e., probably representing Jesus' throne on Saturn, Eze. 1:1,26-28; II Cor 12:2-4), 2 And was transfigured (metamorphoo, transformed) before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light. 3 And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him."

Rev 11:12-17 says, "And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, COME UP HITHER (i.e., at the second Rapture). And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. 13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the EARTHQUAKE were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven. 14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly. 15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. 16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, 17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned."

Jesus starts his reign on the great and terrible Day of the Lord, the day of the Last-Trump Rapture (Rev. 6:17; 7:9,14).

It looks like our Rapture, the First-Trump Rapture, will take place when Moses and Elijah arrive. In Rev. 10:11, John was told to "prophesy again". He is to go back to the time of the Mid-Trib Rapture of Rev. 4:1 and give us more information about that time, because that is when Moses and Elijah arrive on Earth.

Rev 11:1 says, "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, RISE (eqeiro, lift up, take up, i.e., at the First-Trump Rapture), and measure the temple of God (we are the Temple of God), and the altar, and them that worship therein." We will be worshipping Him that day, saying "Thank you! thank you! thank you!". What a glorious day that will be. We will also be reunited with our loved ones. That will make our life complete, the best day ever.

At the Last-Trump Rapture, only the 144,000 Israelites can be measured. A multitude too great to measure will be saved at the last minute on the great and terrible Day of the Lord (Rev. 7:9,14). What makes them believe? I think it is the disappearance of those hated Christians, even those that were in jail. How about you? That should shake up the whole world, even Muslims. They call Jesus a prophet, and lo, he is greater than they thought. He is God. The Christians were right. Pray! and not to an asteroid at Mecca, to God and Jesus Christ. That should be the greatest praying crowd ever. The abandoned cars and the praying in the streets, should stop traffic around the world.

We may have just gotten another sign.

Our southern states seldom get snow. I only saw one real fairyland when I lived in Tennessee. It usually rained instead. Now, lots of southern states got ice first, then 2" of snow, even in Pensacola, FL.

Last night, abandoned vehicles were all over the place. No one without chains is a safe driver in that. I know how it feels, having driven over ice on bridges near Atlanta when we lived at Columbia, S.C. Another time, but not in the south, I had to drive 12 miles on ice. Ed spun out on a curve. I took over and made it because my dad had said to drive with the right wheels off the road. That got me through it. The ground was frozen. You can't do that in the city, where curbs line the streets.

We finally had to put on chains at Albuquerque. We couldn't get up a hill without them. Thank the Lord, we did have chains. Most drivers in the South don't have chains. Most southern cities don't have salt, trucks to spread it on the streets, or snowplows. Lots of cars are stuck, school busses and big 18-wheelers along with everyone else. People were sleeping in the aisles of stores in the last pictures I saw.

Come, Lord Jesus. Agape

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