Pro and Con 1786

Posted 3-18-14

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MY REPLY TO AN INCOMING EMAIL, OMITTED BECAUSE OF THE LENGTH

We are not far apart.

> > 8. There are 21( 3 x 7, half of the 42 ) prophetic months from 1/1/2014 until the predicted Second coming on Yom Kippur 2015

My thoughts are that the best time for the Second Advent would be the first day of the Jubilee Year, Nisan 1, 5776, April 9, 2016, on the anniversary of the Resurrection on April 9, 30 AD. The coming of the Jubilee would have been announced on the previous Day of Atonement. Why the Jubilee Year? Debts are to be cancelled, and the Jews are to be returned to their inherited lots in Israel.

> > Passover is the evening of Nisan 14 or April 14 ( Unleavened Bread is the next 7 days ) and the first eclipse Red Moon tetrad falls on April 15.

Passover is the evening when Nisan 13 becomes Nisan 14. Unleavened Bread is the evening when Nisan 14 becomes Nisan 15.

Lev 23:4-6 says, "These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons. 5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover. 6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread."

> > But the rapture could happen way before Nisan 17—no one truly knows except the Lord but the month of Nisan seems to be the season.

The reason I think the Rapture will be on Ascension Day, May 29 (Iyar 29) is Jesus played it out for us. He ascended and is to come in like manner. Moses and Elijah appeared on Ascension Day, and I expect them to come to Earth when the First-Trump Rapture takes place. See Rev. 11. The Rapture is in verse 1 and Moses and Elijah appear in verse 3.

> > 2009-2015 are the years of economic famine under Obama, and 1967 + 49 (a generation is 7 x 7 in Matthew 1:17---ranges from 48.5 – 51.4 years, Leviticus 25:8 says 49 with 50 the jubilee year) = 2016 ( begins on Rosh Hashanah 2015 ).

To me, the Jubilee Year starts on the first day of Nisan. It will be the first day of the Sacred, Regnal and Jubilee years.

> > the Bible says "this generation shall not pass without seeing the coming of the Lord" meaning before June 7, 2016 and there are no eclipses in 2016. The final eclipse is on the Feast of Tabernacles 2015 which begins the millennium.

I figure that the Millennium will begin on the Day of God's Wrath, Tishri 1, 5776, Sept. 14, 2015.

> > 4. Someone posted underneath the video that it just happened to be exactly 15:51 minutes long, and that the classic rapture verse in the Bible is I Corinthians 15:51.

I think 1 Thess 4:16,17 is the First-Trump Rapture and I Cor 15:51 is the Last-Trump Rapture. Agape

INCOMING EMAIL, RE: THE GREAT SECRET REVEALED

THE 'GREAT SECRET REVEALED' IN THE 'BOOK OF REVELATION'..........................

In all of Christiandom it appears that you and I are the only ones who understand that Revelation 12:10-12 and 13:5 reveal that the rapture happens on the day that Satan is cast down from heaven exactly forty-two months, ie 1,260 days, before the Second Coming of the Lord Jesus.

"He opened their understanding that they might comprehend the Scriptures." Luke 24:45

Bruce Warner, Scripturalist for the Lord

MY REPLY

For me, we had to pass when I thought the Tribulation would begin before I could accept that the Rapture could be Mid-Trib.

Rev 12:10-12 says, "And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now (arti, just now, this day or hour, from airo, to lift, take up, sail away) is come salvation (soteria, rescue, deliverance, salvation, i.e., the First-Trump Rapture), and strength (dunamis, miraculous power, a miracle itself), and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death (i.e., on earth). 12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a SHORT TIME."

The last 1260 days of the Tribulation are to be shortened.

Mat 24:20-22 says, "But pray ye that your flight (phuge, a fleeing, escape, flight, i.e., the First-Trump Rapture) be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be SHORTENED, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened."

I'm hoping for the First-Trump Rapture on Ascension Day, May 29, 2014. That will be Ascension Day in both Eastern and Western Churches. That doesn't happen every year.

"Easter is not only a movable holiday but a multiple one: in most years Western Christian churches and Eastern Orthodox churches celebrate Easter on different dates. In 2013, for example, Easter was celebrated on March 31 by Western churches and May 5 by Orthodox churches. But in 2014, the two celebrations occur on the same date, April 20." http://www.factmonster.com/spot/easter1.html

Therefore, Ascension Day for both will be May 29, 2014. Also, Nisan 15 aligns with April 15 this year. The first Total Lunar Eclipse of this last tetrad will take place on the Feast of Unleavened Bread, Nisan 15.

Lev 23:4-6 says, "These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons. 5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even (i.e., the ending eve of Nisan 13, and the beginning eve of Nisan 14) is the LORD'S passover. 6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread."

Mar 13:18-20 says, "And pray ye that your flight be not in the winter. 19 For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be. 20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days."

THE SECRET OF THE STAIRS

Song 2:10-15 says, "My beloved spake, and said unto me, Rise up, my love, my fair one, and come away. 11 For, lo, the winter is past, the rain (i.e., the latter rain of Nisan) is over and gone; 12 (i.e., it is Iyar) The flowers appear on the earth (i.e., April showers bring May flowers); the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle (lit., turtledove, which comes in April) is heard in our land; 13 The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell. Arise, my love, my fair one, and come away. 14 O my dove, that art in the clefts of the rock, in the secret places (not in the original) of the stairs, let me see thy countenance, let me hear thy voice; for sweet is thy voice, and thy countenance is comely. 15 Take us the foxes, the little foxes, that spoil the vines: for our vines have tender grapes."

THE FORMER RAIN (TISHRI) AND LATTER RAIN (NISAN)

Jer_5:24 says, "Neither say they in their heart, Let us now fear the LORD our God, that giveth rain, both the former and the latter, in his season: he reserveth unto us the appointed weeks of the harvest."

Christ is the firstfruit of the barley harvest. He was resurrected on Easter. He took the Old Testament saints to Heaven that day. The rest of the barley is harvested during the countdown of the Omer after Easter. Ascension Day is Omer 40.

Act 1:7-11 says, "And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. 8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. 9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. 10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; 11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven."

He went up on Ascension Day, so I think he will come for us on Ascension Day. That would be in like manner.

Hos_6:3 says, "Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth."

Joe_2:23 says, "Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the LORD your God: for he hath given you the former rain moderately, and he will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain in the first month."

Jesus was born on Tishri 1 (the first month of the Civil Year) and I think he will return on Nisan 1 (the first month of the Sacred Year) .

Rev 13:1-8 says, "And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast (i.e., the great red dragon) rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns (i.e., the time is during the Tribulation), and upon his heads the name of blasphemy (Pontifex Maximus, of which Nimrod was the first). 2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard (Greece, Dan 7:6), and his feet were as the feet of a bear (Media-Persia, Dan 7:5), and his mouth as the mouth of a lion (Babylon, Dan 7:4): and the dragon (i.e., Satan) gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. 3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. 4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? 5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and BLASPHEMIES; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. 6 And he opened his mouth in BLASPHEMY against God, to BLASPHEME his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. 7 And IT WAS GIVEN UNTO HIM TO MAKE WAR WITH THE SAINTS, AND TO OVERCOME THEM: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him (i.e., including the muslims), whose names are NOT written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world."

Blasphemy: the act or offense of speaking sacrilegiously about God or sacred things; profane talk.

Pope Francis said, "[A]ll of us have this commandment at heart: do good and do not do evil. All of us. ‘But, Father, this is not Catholic! He cannot do good.' Yes, he can..."The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! ‘Father, the atheists?' Even the atheists. Everyone!...We must meet one another doing good. ‘But I don't believe, Father, I am an atheist!' But do good: we will meet one another there." http://www.strangenotions.com/atheists-redeemed/ `

"1. While visiting with a group of refugees at the Sacred Heart parish in Rome on Sunday, Pope Francis said:
‘Sharing our experience in carrying that cross, to expel the illness within our hearts, which embitters our life: it is important that you do this in your meetings. Those that are Christian, with the Bible, and those that are Muslim, with the Quran. The faith that your parents instilled in you will always help you move on.'"

"2. As Catholics, we understand that the ‘illness within our hearts' is more than just the anxiety and sadness that accompany all who mourn and weep in this valley of tears; rather, the true source of man's embitterment is separation from God.

"3. Jesus Christ alone is the Divine Physician by whose ‘stripes we are healed.' (cf Isa 53)

"4. The Qur'an maintains that Our Blessed Lord is but a mere man and nothing more. It is, in other words, a book of BLASPHEMOUS LIES, offensive to Almighty God and to those who love Him in truth.

"5. One may cling to the Qur'an until their dying breath, but apart from Jesus Christ and His Holy Catholic Church, there is no salvation."

http://www.harvestingthefruit.com/pope-francis-encouraged-muslims-to-find-hope-in-the-quran-11-things-to-know-and-share/

Rev 11:1-3 also shows that the First-Trump Rapture is Mid-Trib. It says, "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, RISE (egeiro, lift up, take up, i.e., be taken up to Heaven in the First-Trump Rapture), and measure the temple of God (we are the Temple of the Holy Spirit), and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses (i.e., Moses and Elijah), and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days (i.e., the time that is to be shortened or no flesh would be saved), clothed in sackcloth."

Rev 11:7-13 says, "And when they (i.e., Moses and Elijah)shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them. 8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. 9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves. 10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth. 11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. 12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, COME UP HITHER (i.e., this is the Last-Trump Rapture that takes place on the Day of God's Wrath). And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. 13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven."

I think the Last-Trump Rapture will be on the Feast of Trumpets, Sept. 14, 2015. There will be a Partial Solar Eclipse on the Eve of Trumpets.

Rev 6:12-17 says, "And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. 14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17 For THE GREAT DAY OF HIS WRATH IS COME; and who shall be able to stand?"

Following that, the coming Jubilee Year should be announced on the Day of Atonement. Then the final Total Lunar Eclipse of the Tetrad will be on Sept. 28, 2015, Tishri 15, 5776, the Feast of Tabernacles.

I think the Second Advent will be on the following Nisan 1, 5776, Sat., April 9, 2016, on the anniversary of Jesus' resurrection on April 9, 30 AD.

Sat, 9 April 2016 = 1st of Nisan, 5776
http://www.hebcal.com/converter/?gd=9&gm=4&gy=2016&g2h=1

That will be the first day of the Sacred, Regnal and Jubilee years, a fitting time for the return of the King of kings and Lord of lords. Agape

FROM AN INTERESTING POST ON FIVE DOVES (3-14-14)

...2) Even the "movies" were telling us that something was up!

-March 2014 - The Son of God (Last spoken words in the film: "I am Coming Soon !" )

-March 2014 - God is Not Dead

-March 2014 - NOAH (As it was in the days of Noah........ !!)

-April, 2014 - Heaven is Real

-March 2014 thru early summer: TV Show: RESURRECTION. Promo Tag Line: "Imagine the Impossible" The Dead......are coming back to life!!

-June 2014? Left Behind (remake) In case you MISSED the earlier films and did NOT FIGURE IT ALL OUT.....then you can watch Left Behind, after you are LEFT BEHIND!

TICK TOCK....................What a time to be living as a Born Again Christian.....and watching the signs of these the Last of the Last Days! YFIC Randy

MY REPLY TO AN EMAIL, OMITTED BECAUSE OF THE LENGTH

Re: Rapture on Nisan 17, 2014 ?

> > the month of Nisan seems to be the season per Joel 2:23 and Song of Solomon 2:10-13 saying "Rise up my love and come away with me".

Joe 2:23 says, "Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the LORD your God: for he hath given you the former rain moderately, and he will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain in the first month."

I think this refers to the two advents of Christ. He came as the former rain (i.e., he was born on Tishri 1) at the First Advent. At the last advent, he will come as the latter rain, Nisan 1. I think he will return on Nisan 1, 5776, April 9, 2016, the anniversary of his resurrection on April 9, 30 AD.

Concerning the Rapture,

Song 2:10-15 says, "My beloved spake, and said unto me, Rise up, my love, my fair one, and come away. 11 For, lo, the winter is past, the rain is over and gone; 12 The flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle is heard in our land; 13 The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell. Arise, my love, my fair one, and come away. 14 O my dove, that art in the clefts of the rock, in the secret places of the stairs, let me see thy countenance, let me hear thy voice; for sweet is thy voice, and thy countenance is comely. 15 Take us the foxes, the little foxes, that spoil the vines: for our vines have tender grapes."

The vines do not have tender grapes in Nisan.

I am hoping for the Rapture on Ascension Day, Iyar 29, 5774, May 29, 2014. At that time, there will be tender grapes. May 29 will be Ascension Day for both Eastern and Western churches.

Thu, 29 May 2014 = 29th of Iyar, 5774. That alignment doesn't happen every year.

In Biblical Mathematics, Ed Vallowe said that the number 29 means DEPARTURE. That is the icing on the cake. The Rapture is a departure.

> > The word "falling away "in Thessalonians—it may not mean rapture but falling away from true faith in Christ into Catholic form and substance and the fullness of the Gentiles in Romans may be the end of the church age at the time of the rapture.

I think apostacia in 2 Thess 2:3 should be translated "departing." Eight Bibles before the KJV said departing.

2 Thess 2:3 (Geneva Bible) says, "Let no man deceive you by any means, for that day shall not come, except there come a DEPARTING first, and that the man of sin be disclosed, even the son of perdition". Agape

A POST ON FIVE DOVES

Angela Goodrick (14 Mar 2014)
"Government mandates embedded chip by VeriTeQ"

John and Doves,

My precious Jim went to be with the Lord last August of 2013. My heart is always full of love for him, although in sorrow. I try to keep our website going, although I cannot match his skills and Holy Ghost insights. Here are some relevant points to ponder:

Government Mandates embedded microchip

The 666 Mark of the Beast

The subdermal microchip used to be called "Digital Angel" , and then "Verichip". It is now owned by "VeriTeQ Corp.", and still is headed by Scott Silverman, the original CEO of this chip when it went public in 1999. Up until now, VeriTeQ has been implanting microchips into medical devices, such as hip replacements etc., for data purposes.

Heads Up: ( January 2014 )

The U.S. Government is now * Mandating * this microchip in all medical devices by October 1, 2014. Yes, that is only about a 1/2 a year away. And since the Government has already mandated electronic medical records for all health facilities (a major thrust of the W Bush administration ) .... then would the implanted chip in the right hand or forehead also be mandated at the same time and then be considered " a medical device " to work in conjunction with the electronic data-based Records and thus facilitate Billing ? Something to consider.

" And he" ( the false prophet )
"causeth all ... to receive a mark IN their right hand, or IN their foreheads: and that no man might buy or sell save he that had the mark "
( "charigma " in Greek, meaning an incision),
"or the NAME of the beast", ( will the chip be called by his name? )
"or the number of his name" (666). ----- Revelation 13: 16-18.

Only the King James Version of the Bible ( KJV) says "IN" the right hand or "IN" the forehead. The word "IN" from the KJV pre-dates modern Bibles and is the correct word.
Will the mandated chip for all financial transactions have the name or title of the antichrist ?
Time will tell. It certainly is highly probable.

Most people are looking for the 666 financial Mark of the Beast to debut from the Banking Industry. But how clever to come alongside of the Health Industry. Many will be caught unawares and be taken in a snare ( Luke 21: 34, 35).
" For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. "

The October debut will be a financial windfall for the VeriTeQ Corporation, since it leads into the Christmas season and its orgy of buying. The VeriTeQ stock is poised to go ballistic due to two factors:
1. VeriTeQ is the only producer of this chip because of their exclusive patent rights.
2. VeriTeQ's product -- the implanted chip-- is the only product on the Stock Market that is *Mandated* by the U.S. Government. What a deal !
http://seekingalpha.com/article/1939671

As Believers-- strong in the Word of God, the Bible-- we are not to fear, for we are promised these comforting words:
"Because thou hast kept the word of My patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth." Revelation / Apocalypse 3:10

"Patience here means those who:
1. waited until the "falling away" Apostasy became evident ( attempting a one-world religion),
2. and who are waiting until the man of sin sits in the temple of God as God) please see http://hopetotheend.com/2Thess2.html
and also http://hopetotheend.com/ch6p4.html for further explanation.

It is my belief that being kept from the temptation that is to try all who dwell on the earth, is for the Bride of Christ to be raptured, or translated. Now having said that, I do not infer in any way that the Rapture is this October. It may be, but I think that it will take months to get everyone registered. So we still do not know the day nor the hour, but we do know the season. 1 Thessalonians 5:1.

" And when you BEGIN to see these things come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your Redemption draweth nigh" Luke 21:28 Jesus commands us to watch : "What I say unto you, I say unto all: Watch !" Mark 13:37

Thank you John for providing a telescope on the horizon of events, so that we can better see the signs of His coming.
God bless, Angela Goodrick
P.S. By the way, October 1 begins the Fiscal Year (Financial Year ). It is also former president Jimmy Carter's birthday, born in 1924. That would make him 90 years old this coming October... certainly an elder Statesman.

MY REPLY

I don't know how much you read on Five Doves, but I want to be sure you know that you and Jim can be together forever after you also make it to Heaven. This time apart will seem like a short time compared to eternity.

My husband Ed died Dec. 27, 2011. Before he died, I said, "I love you so much, I want to be with you forever."

He came to visit me in his celestial body on April 2, 2012. Dressed in what looked like black silk shirt material, he came into the bedroom striding fast and grinning from ear to ear. I was on the bed propped up as if to watch TV, but hadn't turned it on yet. He came up by my elbow and just stood there.

I asked him if we could be together forever. He said, "Yes."
I asked if there are female angels in Heaven. He said, "Yes."
I asked if he had gotten with his family. He said, "Yes."
I asked if he had gotten with my family. He said, "Yes."
I asked if he had a piano. He said, "Yes," and walked through the wall. His clothing and shoes went through the wall with him.

Thank you for keeping your website going. Agape

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