Pro and Con 1789

Posted 3-26-14

A SIGN, WEDDING-RING ECLIPSE, DUE APRIL 29, 2014

INCOMING EMAIL, RE: I Wonder What You Think

I keep getting into debates... What do you have to say to this person whose comments are listed below, thanks again.

"It is interesting to note that Jesus never said anything about believing in him dying in the earliest gospels. Jesus himself called people to follow the commandments and follow his example. It wasn't till afterwards that you see people saying the way to heaven is believing in jesus death or resurrection. Jesus gave many statements on how to get eternal life. From forgiving others trespasses (so the father would forgive yours) to living in poverty and following in him.

"Now, that changes tune in John, which was the last gospel written, nearly 80 years after Jesus death, and it starts in with much more metaphysical interpretations of Jesus words. This indicates an evolution of how people saw jesus during that time. Its really all about interpretation. Every sect of christianity believes they have the true teachings with scripture to back it up."

MY REPLY

Luk_22:15 says, "And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer".

Jesus ate the Passover meal with his disciples one day early, because he would die as the Passover lambs began to be killed at the Temple at 3 PM on Thursday, Nisan 13, 30 AD, the Preparation of the Passover.

Joh_19:14 says, "And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour (9 AM, Roman time): and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!"

Thursday, Nisan 13, Preparation of the Passover
Friday, Nisan 14, Passover
Saturday, Nisan 15, Unleavened Bread
Sunday, Nisan 16, Firstfruits

The three days and three nights are mentioned in Mt. 12:40. It says, "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth."

Remember that their nights precede their days.

DAY: Thursday (day 1)
NIGHT: Friday (night 1)
DAY: Friday (day 2)
NIGHT: Saturday (night 2)
DAY: Saturday (day 3)
NIGHT: Sunday (night 3)

It doesn't matter where in Scripture something is said, it is all true, and profitable for instruction in righteousness.

2Ti_3:16 says, "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness".

Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Acts and Romans all recorded the crucifixion.

THESE VERSES REFER TO THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE

1Th 4:13-18 says, "But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words."

Joh 3:15-18 says, "That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."

Joh_11:26 says, "And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?"

I believe it. Actually, Ed didn't die. He was just taken to Heaven. His earthly body he left behind is what died on Dec. 27, 2011. He was still in his celestial body when he came to see me on April 2, 2012.

Acts 4:10-12 mentions the crucifixion.

It says, "Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. 11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. 12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved."

Romans 10:9-13 mentions the crucifixion.

Rom 10:9-13 says, "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. 12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. 13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."

THESE SPEAK OF THE LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE ON THE DAY OF GOD'S WRATH

1Co 15:51-54 says, "Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory."

Acts 2:19-21 says, "And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke: 20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come: 21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved."

Rev 6:12-17 says, "And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. 14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?"

Rev 7:9-15 says, "After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; 10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb. 11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God, 12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen. 13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? 14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 Therefore are they before the throne of God". Agape

INCOMING EMAIL, RE: GOD FULFILLS PROPHECY AS A FORESHADOWING OF FUTURE EVENTS

God selected the day of Nisan 10 for Joshua to deliver the, circumcised, children of Israel into the Promised Land as a foreshadowing of Jesus delivering His, circumcised of the heart, Church into the promise of heaven on a future Nisan 10.

God selected Jesus to be His perfect Lamb of God on the day of Nisan 10 when He rode into Jerusalem on the Day of Palms , so we can also expect His perfected Church to be selected for rapture on a future Nisan 10 Day of Palms. That is why we are told that the great multitude in heaven before the Lamb are holding Palm branches in their hands.

Jesus resurrected after the Sabbath sunset on the first day of the week which is Sunday as the firstfruits of the dead, so we can also expect His Church to be raptured after the Sabbath sunset on a future Sunday as the firstfruits of the Spirit.

Sunday, the Day of Palms, April 17, 2016 is also Nisan 10. It is the ONLY DAY that fits all of the Scriptural parameters in addition to being in the next Jubilee Year as well as being exactly 1,260 days before the Feast of Trumpets September 30, 2019.

You had better mark THIS Day on your calendar!

1 Thessalonians 5:4
"But you, brethren, are not in darkness, so the THIS DAY should overtake you as a thief."

Bruce Warner, Scripturalist for the Lord

MY REPLY

> > Jesus resurrected after the Sabbath sunset on the first day of the week which is Sunday as the firstfruits of the dead, so we can also expect His Church to be raptured after the Sabbath sunset on a future Sunday as the firstfruits of the Spirit.

> > Sunday, the Day of Palms, April 17, 2016 is also Nisan 10. It is the ONLY DAY that fits all of the Scriptural parameters in addition to being in the next Jubilee Year as well as being exactly 1,260 days before the Feast of Trumpets September 30, 2019.

> > You had better mark THIS Day on your calendar !

I think the Thursday Ascension Day, May 29, 2014, just may be the day of the First-Trump Rapture.

We will ascend at the time of the First-Trump Rapture. Moses and Elijah should appear at the Mid-Trib First-Trump Rapture. They will be God's two witnesses that will prophecy during the last half of the Tribulation.

Two men appeared when Jesus ascended. We are the Body of Christ. It seems right that we should ascend on the date that the literal body of Jesus ascended.

Act 1:6-11 says, "When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? 7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. 8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. 9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. 10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, TWO MEN stood by them in white apparel; 11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? THIS SAME JESUS, WHICH IS TAKEN UP FROM YOU INTO HEAVEN, SHALL SO COME IN LIKE MANNER AS YE HAVE SEEN HIM GO INTO HEAVEN."

They saw him go up on Ascension Day. Our Ascension Day seems to be Mid-Trib, the day Satan and his fallen angels are kicked out of Heaven.

SIGN: ANNULAR, WEDDING RING, SOLAR ECLIPSE: TUESDAY, APRIL 29, 2014

FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE, FIRST "COME UP HITHER", PROBABLY ASCENSION DAY, THURSDAY, MAY 29, 2014

Rev 4:1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, COME UP HITHER, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter."

SIGN: PARTIAL SOLAR ECLIPSE, SUNDAY, SEPT. 13, 2015

LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE, LAST "COME UP HITHER", FEAST OF TRUMPETS, DAY OF GOD'S WRATH, FIRST DAY OF JESUS' MILLENNIAL KINGDOM, PROBABLY SEPT. 14, 2015

Rev 11:12-17 says, "And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, COME UP HITHER. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. 13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven. 14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly. 15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. 16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, 17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned."

Rev 11:1-15 says, "And they (i.e., Moses and Elijah) heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. 13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven. 14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly. 15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever."

The First-trump Rapture seems to be on Ascension Day, May 29, 2014.

The Last-trump Rapture seems to be on the Feast of Trumpets, Sept. 14, 2015. Agape

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