Pro and Con 1795

Posted 4-25-14

IN SOUTHERN AUSTRALIA, THE WEDDING RING ECLIPSE
DUE APRIL 29 WILL RISE AS THE SUN SETS

THE THURSDAY CRUCIFIXION

When I found the article "JESUS DIED ON A THURSDAY NOT ON FRIDAY" on Dr. Tabor's blog, I was delighted. He thinks the Crucifixion was on Thursday in 30 AD, and I wholeheartedly agree.

However, he listed that Thursday as "April 4/Nisan 14". I think Crucifixion Day was Thursday, April 6/Nisan 13.

Here is the first part of what Dr. Tabor wrote.

Title: "Jesus Died on a Thursday not on Friday"
Posted: "March 29, 2013"
(http://jamestabor.com/2013/03/29/jesus-died-on-a-thursday-not-on-friday/)

"Later Christian tradition put Jesus' last meal with his disciples on Thursday evening and his crucifixion on Friday. We now know that is one day off. Jesus' last meal was Wednesday night, and he was crucified on Thursday, the 14th of the Hebrew month Nisan. THE PASSOVER MEAL ITSELF WAS EATEN THURSDAY NIGHT, AT SUNDOWN, AS THE 15 OF NISAN BEGAN. Jesus never ate that Passover meal. He had died at 3pm on Thursday afternoon." (emphasis mine)

His chart says that the Crucifixion was Thursday, April 4/Nisan 14. I think that Thursday was April 6/Nisan 13. The Passover was Nisan 14. The Feast of Unleavened Bread started Nisan 15.

HE MAY HAVE USED A MODERN CALENDAR PROGRAM THAT IS OFF BY TWO DAYS IN 30 AD

My favorite one for modern times, Calendar Converter (http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/calendar/)is off by two days in 30 AD.

Note: I just checked Calendar Converter. I put Nisan 15, 3790 in the Hebrew Calendar instead of the correct Nisan 13. Hit Calculate, and got April 6, 30 AD Julian (which is correct) and April 4 Gregorian. Now I think I know what happened.

I checked these calendar programs, and they are also off by two days that far back:
www.midrash.org/calendar
www.diagnosis2012.co.uk/conv.htm
calendarhome.com/converter
jlm-ministries.com
www.rosettacalendar

The reason they are off by two days in 30 AD is because Hillel II added some postponements to the Hebrew Calendar in 358 AD. He did not want the Day of Atonement to fall on Friday or Sunday. He did not want Hoshana Rabbah, the 7th day of Tabernacles, to fall on the weekly Sabbath. Therefore, we have to compensate for that. We should go by God's calendar.

THERE IS AN EASIER WAY

Use the Torah Calendar at http://www.torahcalendar.com/. It has been adjusted so that it gives us the correct date.

It shows that Pesach, Passover, was Friday, Nisan 14, April 7, 30 AD. The Crucifixion was on the preparation of the Passover.

Therefore, the date of the Crucifixion was Thursday, Nisan 13, 3790 (Hebrew), April 6, 30 AD (Julian). Jesus died about 3 PM when the priests at the Temple began to kill the Passover lambs.

ALL FOUR GOSPELS AGREE THAT THE CRUCIFIXION WAS ON THE PREPARATION DAY FOR THE PASSOVER, AN ANNUAL SABBATH, "AN HIGH DAY"

Mat 27:62-64 says, "Now the next day (i.e., Friday), that followed THE DAY OF THE PREPARATION (Thursday), the chief priests and Pharisees came together unto Pilate, 63 Saying, Sir, we remember that that deceiver said, while he was yet alive, After three days (on Sunday, which followed Thursday, Friday and Saturday) I will rise again." 64 Command therefore that the sepulchre be made sure until the third day (Sunday), lest his disciples come by night, and steal him away, and say unto the people, He is risen from the dead: so the last error shall be worse than the first."

Mar_15:42 says, "And now when the even was come, because it (the Thursday crucifixion) was THE PREPARATION, that is, the day before the sabbath" (Passover, Friday)."

Luk_23:54 says, "And that day (Thursday) was THE PREPARATION, and the sabbath (Passover) drew on."

Joh_19:14 says, "And IT WAS THE PREPARATION OF THE PASSOVER, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!"

Joh_19:31 says, "The Jews therefore, because it was THE PREPARATION (Thursday), that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day [Friday], (for that sabbath day was an high day [Passover],) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away."

THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS IN THE GRAVE

Mat_12:40 says, "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth."

Thursday (day)
Friday (night then day)
Saturday (night then day)
Sunday (night)

Dr. Tabor said, "The reason it matters is that getting the chronology straight that weekend enables us to understand the early tradition that Jesus was in the tomb "three days and three nights," as well as the chronology of the "Last Supper" and the Passover and how the Sabbaths and festival days correlate together that year. This alternative chronology makes all our pieces fit from our various sources, including the Synoptic Gospels, John, and the Gospel of Peter" (i.e., the Gospel of Peter is noncanonical).

A POST ON FIVE DOVES, RE: Gino (18 Apr 2014) "When did John do this?"

Revelation 10:11 And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.

When did John do this?
Or is this still, somehow yet future?

MY REPLY

> > Revelation 10:11 And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.

> > When did John do this? Or is this still, somehow yet future?

John wrote it near the end of the first century, between 90 AD and 95 AD.

I think the Rapture (the "Come up hither" of Rev. 4:1 and the "Rise" of Rev. 11:1) will happen Thur. May 29, 2014, Iyar 29, 5774.

Rev. 10:11 (KJV) says, "And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy AGAIN (palin, ONCE MORE) before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings."

The word translated "again" in the KJV is "palin" in the Greek.

In Strong's Concordance, palin means, "Probably from the same as G3823 (through the idea of oscillatory repetition); (adverbially) anew, that is, (of place) BACK, (OF TIME) ONCE MORE, or (conjugationally) furthermore or on the other hand: - AGAIN."

John was to go back and speak of the Rapture that was in Rev. 4:1 AGAIN, showing that it was taking place Mid-Trib.

Rev 4:1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter."

Rev. 10:11 (KJV) says, "And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy AGAIN (Gr. palin, ONCE MORE) before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings."

Revelation 10:11 (AMP) says, "Then they said to me, You are to make a FRESH PROPHECY concerning many peoples and races and nations and languages and kings."John went back to the time of the "Come up hither" of the First-Trump Rapture of Rev. 4:1, and started Rev 11 with the "Rise" (i.e., the "Come up hither" of the 1st trump Rapture).

Keep in mind that we are the temple of God. In Rev. 11:1, John said, "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, RISE, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein."

We are the temple of God.

The First-Trump Rapture had just taken place. What besides the Rapture had just taken place?

Moses and Elijah had come.

Rev 11:1-4 says, "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months (i.e., the first half of the Tribulation). 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. 4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth."

Zec 4:11-14 says, "Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof? 12 And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves? 13 And he answered me and said, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord. 14 Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth."

Mar_9:2-4 says, "And after six days Jesus taketh with him Peter, and James, and John, and leadeth them up into an high mountain apart by themselves: and he was transfigured before them. 3 And his raiment became shining, exceeding white as snow; so as no fuller on earth can white them. 4 And there appeared unto them Elias with Moses: and they were talking with Jesus."

Act 1:9-11 says, "And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, HE WAS TAKEN UP; and a cloud received him out of their sight. 10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men (i.e., MOSES AND ELIJAH) stood by them in white apparel; 11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven."

After the Preview of the Rapture in Rev. 1:9-11, Jesus appeared to John.

Rev 1:9-11 says, "I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos (meaning mortal), for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. I was (lit., became) in the Spirit on the LORD'S DAY (i.e., ASCENSION DAY?), and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, 11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last..."

Rev 1:12-18 says, "And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; 13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. 14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. 16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength. 17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: 18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death."

Jesus ascended up in the clouds on Ascension Day, Omer 40, counting Resurrection Day (Easter 4-20-14) as Omer 1.

Lev 23:15 says, "And ye shall count unto you from the morrow (Sunday) after the sabbath (Saturday, i.e., Resurrection Day is Omer 1), from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering (day 1, first day of the week, Sunday).

Ascension Day, Omer 40, will be Thursday, May 29, 2014, in both Eastern and Western Churches. It looks like Jesus acted out the First Rapture for us.

The Hebrew and Gregorian calendars were aligned April 1/Nisan 1. The last day they will be aligned will be Ascension Day, May 29/Iyar 29. The next day will be May 30/Sivan 1.

According to Ed Vallowe, in his book Biblical Mathematics, the number 29 stands for departure. That is a perfect day for the First-Trump Rapture.

Is there another way that we can know that "RISE" in Rev. 11:1 stands for the First-Trump Rapture?

Let's look at it with Strong's numbers. Rev 11:1 AndG2532 there was givenG1325 meG3427 a reedG2563 like untoG3664 a rod:G4464 andG2532 theG3588 angelG32 stood,G2476 saying,G3004 Rise,G1453 andG2532 measureG3354 theG3588 templeG3485 of God,G2316 andG2532 theG3588 altar,G2379 andG2532 them that worshipG4352 therein.G1722 G846

The word "rise" is Strong's G1453, egeiro, rouse (from sleep or from death), LIFT UP, RISE UP, TAKE UP. That stands for the Rapture.

When we rise up into the clouds, probably as Christ did on Ascension Day, that will be the First-Trump Rapture. The Last-Trump Rapture of I Cor. 15:51-54 will be on the Day of God's Wrath, probably the Feast of Trumpets, Mon. Sept. 14, 2015/Tishri 1, 5776.

I believe Jesus came the first time on the Feast of Trumpets, Sept. 4, 5 BC.

I think he will return at the Second Advent 7 months after the Feast of Trumpets, Day of God's Wrath, on Sept. 15, 2015. That will be the first day of the Jubilee Year, Sat. April 9, 2016/Nisan 1, 5776.

A Jubilee Year must be preceded by a Sabbatical Year, and 5775 is a Sabbatical Year. It divides by 7 equally.

Hos 6:1-3 says, "Come, and let us return unto the LORD: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up. 2 After two days (i.e., 2000 years) will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight. 3 Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth."

Jesus came as the former rain on Tishri 1. He will return as the latter rain on Nisan 1.

Joe 2:23 says, "Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the LORD your God: for he hath given you the former rain moderately, and he will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain in the first month."

Tishri is the first month of the Civil Year. Jesus was born on the Feast of Trumpets, Tishri 1 in 5 BC. Nisan is the first month of the Sacred, Regnal and Jubilee years. I expect the Second Advent on Sat. April 9, 2016, Nisan 1, 5776. Agape

INCOMING EMAIL, RE: 1599 Geneva Bible "HE" IN THE BOOK OF DANIEL

It is the very same "he" in BOTH of the following 'Daniel' Scriptures describing the '70th Week of Daniel' in the 1599 Geneva Bible:

Daniel 9:27 ( 1599 Geneva Bible )
"And 'he' shall confirm the covenant with many for one week; and in the midst of the week 'he' shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations, 'he' shall make it desolate, even until the consummation determined shall be poured upon the desolate."

THE NEXT DANIEL SCRIPTURE IDENTIFIES WHO "HE" REALLY IS :

Daniel 12:6-7 ( 1599 Geneva Bible )
"When shall be the end of these wonders? ....that it shall tarry for a time, two times and an half: and when 'he' shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished."

It is ONLY Jesus who will "accomplish to finish" the 3 1/2 year last-half of the 70th week of Daniel when "he" "scatters the power of the holy people" to resist accepting Him as their Messiah before His Second Coming! Bruce Warner, Scripturalist for the Lord

MY REPLY

> > It is the very same "he" in BOTH of the following 'Daniel' Scriptures describing the '70th Week of Daniel' in the 1599 Geneva Bible:

> > Daniel 9:27 ( 1599 Geneva Bible ) "And 'he' shall confirm the covenant with many for one week; and in the midst of the week 'he' shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations, 'he' shall make it desolate, even until the consummation determined shall be poured upon the desolate."

Here is what Dan. 9:26,27 says in the Geneva Bible at Bible Gateway.
http://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Daniel%209:27

Daniel 9:26,27 (GNV) "And after threescore and two weeks, shall Messiah be slain, and shall have nothing, and the people of the prince that shall come, shall destroy the city and the Sanctuary, and the end thereof shall be with a flood: and unto the end of the battle it shall be destroyed by desolations. 27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of the abominations, he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation determined shall be poured upon the desolate."

The "people of the prince that shall come" in the future are the Romans. They destroyed Jerusalem and the Temple in 70 AD. The "he" in verse 27 is a Roman "prince that shall come".

What is the "flood" that will destroy the Romans, "the people of the prince that shall come"?

The word flood in Hebrew is "sheteph" "From H7857; a deluge (literally or figuratively): - flood, outrageous, overflowing."

I think this overflowing flood will be a tsunami caused by the mountain-sized asteroid impact in the Mediterranean Sea.

Rev 8:8,9 says, "And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; 9 And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed."

Eze 38:18-23 says, "And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that my fury shall come up in my face. 19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely IN THAT DAY THERE SHALL BE A GREAT SHAKING IN THE LAND OF ISRAEL; 20 SO THAT THE FISHES OF THE SEA, AND THE FOWLS OF THE HEAVEN, AND THE BEASTS OF THE FIELD, AND ALL CREEPING THINGS THAT CREEP UPON THE EARTH, AND ALL THE MEN THAT ARE UPON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, SHALL SHAKE AT MY PRESENCE (paniym, face, i.e., they will see the Sign of the Son of Man in the sky), AND THE MOUNTAINS SHALL BE THROWN DOWN, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground. 21 And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord GOD: every man's sword shall be against his brother. 22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an OVERFLOWING RAIN, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone. 23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD."

Also, the asteroid Wormwood, Satan's home, will destroy Babylon.

Rev 8:10,11 says, "And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; 11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter."

Rev 18:21 says, "And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all."

Isa 22:5 tells us that " it is a day of trouble".

Then Isa 22:16-19 says, "What hast thou here? (i.e., Babylon) and whom hast thou here (the False Prophet), that thou hast hewed thee out a sepulchre here, as he (Satan) that heweth him out a sepulchre on high, and that graveth an habitation for himself in a rock (the asteroid Wormwood)? 17 Behold, the LORD will carry thee away with a mighty captivity, and will surely cover thee. 18 He will surely violently turn and toss thee like a ball into a large country: there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord's house. 19 And I will drive thee from thy station, and from thy state shall he pull thee down."

Isa_24:1 says, "Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof."

Isa 24:5,6 says, "The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant. 6 Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left."

We have two chances to get out of here before these two asteroids hit Earth.

THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE

1Th 4:13-18 says, "But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent (phthano, precede) them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the TRUMP of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words."

THE LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE

1Co 15:51-54 says, "Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the LAST TRUMP: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory."

Both Raptures are represented in Rev. 11.

FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE

Rev. 11:1 says, "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise (egeiro, lift up, take up), and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein." We are the Temple of the Holy Spirit.

This is the "Come up hither" of Rev. 4:1. In Rev 10:11, John was told "Thou must prophesy again (palin, repetition, once more, again)".

The reason John had to prophesy about the First-Trump Rapture again was to add the information about Moses and Elijah's return to Earth at the time of the first Rapture, at Mid-Trib.

Rev 11:2-4 says, "But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses (i.e., Moses and Elijah), and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days (i.e., the duration of the Great Tribulation before it is shortened), clothed in sackcloth. 4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth."

Zec 4:11-14 says, "What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof? 12 And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves? 13 And he answered me and said, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord. 14 Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth."

Moses and Elijah stood by Jesus at the Transfiguration.

Mat 17:1-3 says, "And after six days (i.e., after 6000 years) Jesus (the Lord of the whole earth) taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high MOUNTAIN apart (kata idios, his own home apart, i.e., representing heaven), 2 And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light. 3 And, behold, there appeared unto them MOSES AND ELIAS talking with him."

"COME UP HITHER", THE LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE

Rev 11:12,13 says, "And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. 13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven." Agape

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Ash and Lightning above Icelandic Eyjafjallajokull Volcano in 2010
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