Pro and Con 1812

Posted 7-25-14

THE MYSTERY YANAK CRATER,
HOW DID THE 262 FT. WIDE CRATER IN SIBERIA FORM?


Siberia, Yamal Crater, 262 ft wide
http://siberiantimes.com/home/

The crater is between 50 and 70 meters deep, has an icy lake in it, and there is water flowing down its eroding permafrost walls.
Found Tuesday, the crater is thought to have appeared recently, within the last year or two, and it doesn't seem to have been formed by an explosion of a meteorite. Yamal is a large peninsula jutting into Arctic waters. It is Russia's main production area for gas sold to Europe."

INCOMING EMAIL, RE: Melting roads

Roads in Yellowstone are melting caused by the extreme volcanic heat below them. To me, this should be a cause of concern for us for if the US is truly the "great Babylon" as described in Revelation chapter 18, a great destruction will come upon us in the time of one hour. Of course, we do not know when that will happen.

But, when we believe the words of Jesus in Matthew Chapter 24 we can surmise that something major will be happening in Israel shortly before a tremendous world event will occur.

Well, there is nothing we can do to prevent this, so we just watch and wait. Jesus will take care of all those who believe in Him. Ben

MY REPLY

> > Jesus will take care of all those who believe in Him.

Yes. Thank you Lord.

I think Babylon is near the Euphrates River. The asteroid Wormwood is to wipe out Babylon on the Day of God's Wrath. However, an earthquake on one side of this globe sometimes causes an earthquake on the opposite side. The asteroid impact will knock the earth upside down. That blast seems to be enough to set off volcanoes across the planet.

Isa_24:1 says, "Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof."

Thank you Lord, that all believers will be out of here (Rev 18:4) before Wormwood hits Babylon (Rev 8:11; 18:21).

The blood moons of the present tetrad are: 4-15-14, 10-8-14, 4-4-15, and 9-28-15.

A thought just hit me. I wonder if the Lord has planned that the First-Trump Rapture will happen on the Feast of Trumpets between the first two blood moons, and that the Last-Trump Rapture will happen on the Feast of Trumpets between the last two blood moons. The Great Tribulation, the last half of the Tribulation, is to be shortened.

In Psa 27:5, a psalm of David says, "For IN THE TIME OF TROUBLE he shall hide me in his pavilion: in the secret of his tabernacle shall he hide me; he shall set me up upon a rock" (i.e., Saturn).

The secret of his tabernacle is that the altar and Brazen Sea represented Earth, the Holy Place represented Mars and Jupiter, and that the Holy of Holies represented our third heaven, Saturn.

Paul was caught up to the third heaven, 1. Mars, 2. Jupiter, 3. Saturn.

2Co 12:2-4 says, "I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. 3 And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) 4 How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter."

The Feast of Trumpets
1st of Tishrei, 5775 = Thu, 25 September 2014.
1st of Tishrei, 5776 = Mon, 14 September 2015.
(http://www.hebcal.com/converter/)

However, the Moon will be under Virgo's feet over Jerusalem on different days.

Rev 12:1 says, "And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars".

I think this sign marks the true date of the Feast of Trumpets.

Sky above 31°46'48"N 35°13'12"E at Sat 2014 Sep 27 15:30 UTC
Sky above 31°46'48"N 35°13'12"E at Thu 2015 Sep 17 15:40 UTC
(http://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/Yoursky)

Therefore, I will be hoping and watching for the First-Trump Rapture Sept. 25-27, 2014. Agape

MY REPLY

Mat 24:36 says, "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only."

If the Rapture is to be on the Feast of Trumpets, that is the one date that no one in those days knew until they sighted the new crescent Moon under Virgo's feet. Now, I could figure it out by going to YourSky. Agape

A POST ON FIVE DOVES, RE: "Menorah's seven lamps in imitation of number of planets" (13 July 2014) jfh

Josephus Antiquities Book 3, Chapter 6, 7. "Over against this table, near the southern wall, was set a candlestick of cast gold, hollow within, being of the weight of one hundred pounds, which the Hebrews call Chinchares ,. if it be turned into the Greek language, it denotes a talent. It was' made with its knops, and lilies, and pomegranates, and bowls (which ornaments amounted to seventy in all); by which means the shaft elevated itself on high from a single base, and spread itself into as many branches as there are planets, including the sun among them. It terminated in seven heads, in one row, all standing parallel to one another; and these branches carried seven lamps, one by one, in imitation of the number of the planets. These lamps looked to the east and to the south, the candlestick being situate obliquely."

Josephus doesn't mention the names of the planets and the earth is not a planet since it does not wander around the heavens as the word implies. jfh

1. Moon
2. Mercury
3. Venus
4. Sun, eternal flame used to light the other six candlesticks
5. Mars
6. Jupiter
7. Saturn

These you can see with the naked eye. The third heaven was above these called Paradise. The Planet Jupiter calculates time not only from the birth of Jesus but from the time that Adam was placed in the Garden of Eden at the beginning of the 8th Day of a thousand years. Jupiter has a periodicy of 12 years. Jesus was born in 3996 AM / 4 BC probably on Rosh Hashanah in the fall of the year and conceived on Hanakkah in 3995 AM / 5 BC as the prophet Haggai said he would bless us. So, Jupiter was the Bethlehem Star and not a nova that winked.

The Star Sirius in the constellation Canis Major calculates years with the heliacal rising with the Sun, the revolving of the Earth in 24 hours calculates days.

Isaiah 40:22, 26 "It is he that sits upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretches out the heavens as a curtain, and spreads them out as a tent to dwell in:" "Lift up your eyes on high, and behold who has created these things, that brings out their host by number: he calls them all by names by the greatness of his might, for that he is strong in power; not one fails."

Psalm 19:1-6 "To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David.
The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament shows his handy work. Day unto day utters speech, and night unto night shows knowledge. There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard. Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them has he set a tabernacle/ecliptic or path for the sun, Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoices as a strong man to run a race. His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof."

Job 26:7 "He stretches out the north over the empty place, and hangs the earth upon nothing."

The earth is the hub of the Universe. The Sun is the center of the planets. The constellations circle the outer limits and God's Paradise is above it all, in it all as He created it all.

MY REPLY

> > Josephus doesn't mention the names of the planets and the earth is not a planet since it does not wander around the heavens as the word implies. jfh

Earth is a planet. It wanders as it orbits the Sun.

Ezekiel saw a vision of the heavens. He saw 4 planets (Mercury, Venus, Earth and Mars) orbiting the Sun. The orbits looked like wheels within wheels.

Eze 1:15 says, "Now as I beheld the living creatures (lively flying globes), behold one wheel (orbit) upon the EARTH by the living creatures, with his four faces."

Being a globe, Earth faces 4 directions at the same time. The four faces are the same that were on the flags put at the compass points when Israel camped around the Tabernacle. Lion meant east. Man meant south. Ox meant west. Eagle meant north.

Josephus meant that the seven lamps stood for 1. Sun, 2. Mercury, 3. Venus, 4. Earth, 5. Mars, 6. Jupiter and 7. Saturn.

Paul was caught up to the 3rd heaven (Saturn), which is Paradise.

Luk_23:43 says, "And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise."

2Co_12:4 says, "How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter."

Rev_2:7 says, "He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God."

2Co 12:2-4 says, "I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN (i.e., Saturn). 3 And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) 4 How that he was caught up into PARADISE (i.e., the third heaven, Saturn), and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter."

> > Jesus was born in 3996 AM / 4 BC probably on Rosh Hashanah in the fall of the year and conceived on Hanakkah in 3995 AM / 5 BC as the prophet Haggai said he would bless us. So, Jupiter was the Bethlehem Star and not a nova that winked.

You are close. I think Jesus was born on the Feast of Trumpets (Rosh Hashanah) in 5 BC and Herod died before Passover in 4 BC.

> > Jesus was born in 3996 AM / 4 BC probably on Rosh Hashanah in the fall of the year and conceived on Hanakkah in 3995 AM / 5 BC

I think Jesus was conceived on Kislev 24, and was born on the following Feast of Trumpets in 5 BC.

> > The earth is the hub of the Universe.

The Sun is the hub of this Solar System. Agape

MY REPLY TO A POST ON FIVE DOVES

You make the best charts. I couldn't do that in a million years. I took Geometry, and managed to be one of the 3 of us in the class that understood it, but, I really don't have a mathematical brain. I forget numbers too quickly. I do better with other kinds of research.

> > the purported location of the real Mt. Sinai in Media or Arabia

I have done quite a bit of research on this, and I feel certain that Mt. Sinai is Jebel al-Halal (40 kilometers wide and 60 kilometers long), a rocky mountain by the "Way to Shur," 60 kilometers south of al-Arish, on the Mediterranean shore. Jebel al-Halal is about 1942 ft. (0.59 kilometers) tall. Mt. Sinai's entrance and exit points are complicated, and there are some caves on the mountain. The Lord must have strengthened the legs of Moses.

See what you think about the location of Mt. Sinai after I tell you some of the things I have found out.

Some suggest that Mt. Sinai was a volcano, but there are no ashes. That is because Mt. Sinai represented Heaven, Saturn. Ezekiel saw a vision of Heaven, and the throne of the only God/man, Jesus, was on it.

Eze 1:1 says, "the heavens were opened, and I saw visions of GOD. "

Eze 1:26-28 says, "And above the firmament (expanse of space) that was over their heads (i.e., farther out in space than the 4 terrestrial planets) was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone (i.e., sapphire means dear to the planet Saturn, from the Sanskrit Sani, Saturn, and priya, dear): and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a MAN (i.e., the only God/man is Jesus) above upon it. 27 And I saw as the colour of amber (Saturn is the only amber planet), as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins (i.e., from the equator) even upward, and from the appearance of his loins even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of FIRE, and it had brightness round about. 28 As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about (i.e., Saturn's ring system around the equator). This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD."

Sapphire is Jesus' birthstone, and it means Heaven. I think he was born on the Feast of Trumpets Sept. 4, 5 BC.

Gemstones represent planets in Eze. 28.

Eze 28:12-16 says, "Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus (meaning rock, i.e., Satan, king of the asteroid Wormwood (Rev. 8:11), and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. 13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius (Mercury), topaz (Venus), and the diamond (Earth), the beryl (Mars), the onyx (Rahab, Satan's planet, now our Asteroid Belt), and the jasper (Jupiter), the sapphire (Saturn), the emerald (Uranus), and the carbuncle (Neptune), and gold (Pluto): the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. 14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire (i.e., originally on Rahab and now on the asteroid Wormwood). 15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. 16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God (i.e., Saturn): and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire" (i.e., from Wormwood).

The Lord descended upon Mt. Sinai in fire, probably because the 7th lamp on the lampstand represented Saturn, which looks like a lighted lamp in the night sky (Josephus, a Pharisee priest, Ant. III. VI.7; Wars. V. V. 5). The seven lamps represented the Sun, Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn.

The Lord also spoke to Moses from a burning bush, but the bush was not consumed.

Exo_3:2 says, "And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed."

Mt. Sinai was not consumed by the fire, either.

Exo_19:18 says, "And mount Sinai was altogether on a smoke, because the LORD DESCENDED UPON IT IN FIRE: and the smoke thereof ascended as the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mount quaked greatly."

Mt. Sinai represented Heaven. Exo 20:21,2 says, "And the people stood afar off, and Moses drew near unto the thick darkness where God was. 22 And the LORD said unto Moses, Thus thou shalt say unto the children of Israel, Ye have seen that I have talked with you FROM HEAVEN."

God is everywhere. He can be in Heaven and be on Earth at the same time.

When Israel left Egypt, they did not take "The Way to the Land of the Philistines" nearest the Mediterranean Sea. They took "The Way to Shur." It is roughly parallel to The Way to the Land of the Philistines, but farther inland. This made it a more peaceful journey, and supplied grass for the herds.

The Way to Shur and the area around Mt. Sinai had enough grass for the animals Israel brought out of Egypt. When there is rain, the peninsula sprouts its dormant seeds, and hail fell on Egypt shortly before Israel left, so I think hail also fell on the Sinai Peninsula.

Exo_9:24 says, "So there was hail, and fire mingled with the hail, very grievous, such as there was none like it in all the land of Egypt since it became a nation."

Shur means an enclosure, a wall. It was a section of the Arabian desert on the north-eastern border of Egypt, giving its name to a wilderness (midbar, DESERT) extending from Egypt toward PHILISTIA" (Gen. 16:7; 20:1; 25:18; Ex.15:22; Psa 60:8; Psa 87:4).

Psa 108:9 says, "Moab is my washpot; over Edom will I cast out my shoe; over Philistia (area near the Mediterranean Sea, including Gaza, Ashkelon and Ashdod) will I triumph."

Gen 16:7 says, "And the angel of the LORD found her (Hagar) by a fountain of water in the wilderness (midbar, DESERT), by the fountain in the way (derek, road, as trodden) to Shur."

Gen 20:1 And Abraham journeyed from thence toward the south country, and dwelled between Kadesh (in the desert) and Shur (in the desert), and sojourned in Gerar (a Philistine city).

Exo 15:22,23 says, "So Moses brought Israel from the Red sea, and they went out into the wilderness (midbar, DESERT) of Shur; and they went three days in the wilderness (midbar, DESERT), and found no water. 23 And when they came to Marah, they could not drink of the waters of Marah, for they were bitter: therefore the name of it was called Marah."

1Sa 27:8 And David and his men went up, and invaded the Geshurites, and the Gezrites, and the Amalekites: for those nations were of old the inhabitants of the land, AS THOU GOEST TO SHUR, EVEN UNTO THE LAND OF EGYPT."

"Scholars believe that the 'way of Shur' was located along the Wadi Tumilat -- an arable strip of land to the east of the Nile delta, serving as the ancient transit route between Egypt and Canaan across the Sinai." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shur_(Bible)

Shur, meaning wall, was part of the Egyptian fortified defensive line to protect Egypt.

Gen 20:1 gives an idea where Shur was located. It says, "And Abraham journeyed from thence toward the south country, and dwelled between Kadesh and Shur" (Heb., shur, a region of the Desert).

Num 33:15 says, "And they departed from Rephidim, and pitched in the wilderness (midbar, DESERT) of SINAI."

The DESERT OF SINAI began near Egypt. Exo_19:1 says, "In the third month, when the children of Israel were gone forth out of the land of Egypt, THE SAME DAY CAME THEY INTO THE WILDERNESS (midbar, DESERT) OF SINAI."

Mount Sinai was in the desert of Sinai, which began close to Egypt and ended near the land of the Philistines. The scriptures are consistent.

Lev_7:38 says, "Which the LORD commanded Moses in mount Sinai, in the day that he commanded the children of Israel to offer their oblations unto the LORD, in the wilderness (midbar, DESERT) of Sinai."

Num_1:1 says, "And the LORD spake unto Moses in the wilderness (midbar, DESERT) of Sinai, in the tabernacle of the congregation, on the first day of the second month, in the second year after they were come out of the land of Egypt".

Num_1:19 says, "As the LORD commanded Moses, so he numbered them in the wilderness (midbar, DESERT) of Sinai."

Num_3:4 says, "And Nadab and Abihu died before the LORD, when they offered strange fire before the LORD, in the wilderness (midbar, DESERT) of Sinai, and they had no children".

Num_3:14 says, "And the LORD spake unto Moses in the wilderness (midbar, DESERT) of Sinai".

Num_9:1 says, "And the LORD spake unto Moses in the wilderness (midbar, DESERT) of Sinai, in the first month of the second year after they were come out of the land of Egypt".

Num_9:5 says, "And they kept the passover on the fourteenth day of the first month at even in the wilderness (midbar, DESERT) of Sinai: according to all that the LORD commanded Moses, so did the children of Israel."

Num_10:12 says, "And the children of Israel took their journeys out of the wilderness (min midbar, DESERT) of Sinai; and the cloud rested in the wilderness (midbar, DESERT) of Paran." The desert of Paran is located south and east of Kadesh Barnea.

Num_26:64 says, "But among these there was not a man of them whom Moses and Aaron the priest numbered, when they numbered the children of Israel in the wilderness (midbar, DESERT) of Sinai."

Num 33:5 says, "And the children of Israel removed from Rameses, and pitched in Succoth."

Num 33:6 says, "And they departed from Succoth, and pitched in Etham (meaning fort), which is in the edge of the wilderness (midbar, DESERT)."

Num 33:7 says, "And they removed from Etham, and turned again unto Pihahiroth, which is before Baalzephon: and they pitched before Migdol."

Num 33:8 says, "And they departed from before Pihahiroth, and passed through the midst of the sea into the wilderness (midbar, DESERT), and went three days' journey in the wilderness (midbar, DESERT) of Etham, and pitched in Marah."

The Way to Shur was located in the northern Sinai Peninsula, beginning on the north-eastern border of Egypt. They never left the DESERT as they crossed the northern part of the Sinai Peninsula. Logically, they headed toward Canaan, which they knew was not in the Arabian Peninsula. They knew Midian was in the Arabian Peninsula. Previously, Moses had tended sheep there for his father-in-law Jethro.

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Exo_15:22,27 says, "So Moses brought Israel from the Red sea (min yam suph, the Reed Sea, which fits the salt lakes and marshes north of Suez that are called the Bitter Lakes), and THEY WENT OUT INTO THE WILDERNESS (midbar, DESERT) OF SHUR (a region of the desert); and they went three days in the WILDERNESS (midbar, DESERT), and found no water... 23 And when they came to Marah (a place in the DESERT meaning bitter), they could not drink of the waters of Marah, for they were bitter: therefore the name of it was called Marah. ... 27 And they came to Elim (a place in the DESERT meaning palm trees), where were twelve wells of water, and threescore and ten palm trees: and they encamped there by the waters."

Exo 16:1 says, "And they took their journey from Elim (a place in the desert), and all the congregation of the children of Israel came unto the wilderness (midbar, DESERT) of Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai (probably derived from the Sanskrit Sani, Saturn, i.e., Sinai, represented the third heaven Paul was caught up to), on the fifteenth day of the second month after their departing out of the land of Egypt."

Exo 17:1 says, "And all the congregation of the children of Israel journeyed from the wilderness (midbar, desert) of Sin, after their journeys, according to the commandment of the LORD, and pitched in Rephidim" (a place in the desert).

Exo 17:6-8 says, "Behold, I will stand before thee there upon the rock in Horeb (choreb, desolate, a generic name for the SINAITIC mountains); and thou shalt smite the rock, and there shall come water out of it, that the people may drink. And Moses did so in the sight of the elders of Israel. 7 And he called the name of the place Massah, and Meribah" (both places in the desert). 8 Then came Amalek, and fought with Israel in Rephidim" (a place in the desert).

Exo 18:27 says, "And Moses let his father in law (Jethro) depart; and he went his way into his own land."

Jethro was the priest of Midian. Therefore, MOSES WAS NOT IN MIDIAN on the east of the Gulf of Aqaba.

Exo 19:1,2 says, "In the third month, when the children of Israel were gone forth out of the land of Egypt, the same day came they into the wilderness (midbar, DESERT) of Sinai. 2 For they were departed from Rephidim, and were come to the DESERT (midbar, desert) of Sinai, and had pitched in the wilderness (midbar, desert); and there Israel camped before the mount."

The area around Mt. Sinai is rich in pasture and grass. The cattle of this area are known as halal. Moses had previously brought Jethro's sheep to Mt. Sinai to graze on that grass.

Mt. Sinai represented heaven. Exo 20:22 says, "And the LORD said unto Moses, Thus thou shalt say unto the children of Israel, Ye have seen that I have talked with you from HEAVEN."

Exo 20:24 says, "An altar of earth thou shalt make unto me, and shalt sacrifice thereon thy burnt offerings, and thy peace offerings, thy sheep, and thine oxen: in all places where I record my name I will come unto thee, and I will bless thee."

The altar before the Tabernacle represented Earth.

Exo 24:9,10 says, "Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel: 10 And THEY SAW THE GOD OF ISRAEL: and there was UNDER HIS FEET as it were a paved work of a SAPPHIRE stone, and as it were the BODY OF HEAVEN (i.e., heavenly body, Saturn) in his clearness."

Keep in mind that in Ezekiel's visions in chapters 1 and 10, the sapphire represents Saturn. Sapphire means dear to the planet Saturn, from the Sanskrit Sani, Saturn, and priya, dear.

Don't let Galatians 4:25 fool you. It says, "For this Agar is mount Sinai in ARABIA, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children."

The Sinai Peninsula was part of Arabia Petraea in those days. Look at the maps in the back of your Bible, and if yours is like mine, you will see this clearly. "It was a frontier province of the Roman Empire beginning in the 2nd century; it consisted of the former Nabataean kingdom in Jordan, southern Levant, the Sinai Peninsula and northwestern Arabian peninsula. Its capital was Petra." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabia_Petraea)

http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2007/10/mount-sinai-is-not-jebel-al-lawz-in-saudi-arabia.aspx#Article
"...there is no credible historical, geographical, archaeological or Biblical evidence to support the thesis that Mt. Sinai is at Jebel al-Lawz in Saudi Arabia."

I agree. How about you?

> > Perhaps also a more reliable date for the Crucifixion can be ascertained if it was either in 32 or 33 AD or another date.

However, I have worked on that for years, and feel sure that the Crucifixion was on Thursday, April 6, 30 AD.
My list of events is on Pro and Con 1676
http://prophecycorner.theforeverfamily.com/procon1676.html
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