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Posted 6-23-15

INCOMING EMAIL FROM PROPHECY IN THE NEWS

"Shroud of Turin Names the Crucified Man

"Modern scholars talk about the "man in the shroud" but seem reluctant to take the position that the crucified man is Jesus. But, Dr. Alan Whanger, of Duke University, developing a special technique using polarized lenses to study the shroud, has found the Greek letters for "Nazareth" apparently photographed into the fibers of the cloth!

"The letters appear to be from the title board that was placed above Jesus' head on the cross. The Latin term for this board is "titulus." It seems that the sign was laid beside the left leg of our Savior at burial, and was under the shroud at the time the image was formed on the fibers of the shroud. "Dr. Whanger says, "Helena, mother of Constantine the Great, went to Jerusalem in the early fourth century to search for the Holy places. She reportedly found the tomb with objects in it, including the titulus with the words, 'Jesus of Nazareth King of the Jews' in three languages - Hebrew, Greek and Latin. She divided the board, sending one to Constantinople, and taking the other to Rome where it presently resides in the 'Basilica of the Holy Cross in Jerusalem.' "

"The wooden fragment is kept in a silver chest. It measures approximately 5.2 inches high by 9.2 inches wide. Its letters are gouged into the wood by some sort of stylus, and then filled with a still-discernible red paint. Amazingly, Dr. Whanger found that its letters match those found on the shroud. Now we know! The "crucified man" has been identified!"

MY REPLY TO AN INCOMING EMAIL, RE: GREAT TRIBULATION

> > According to my timeline, we have about 1-year until the comet Wormwood drama starts the Great Tribulation Period

I think the asteroid Wormwood impact FOLLOWS the Great Tribulation on "the great and the terrible Day of the LORD" (Joe 2:31), which is the Day of God's Wrath.

Isa 13:6 says, "Howl ye; for the day of the LORD is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty."

Jer_10:10 says, "But the LORD is the true God, he is the living God, and an everlasting king: AT HIS WRATH THE EARTH SHALL TREMBLE, and the nations shall not be able to abide his indignation."

The impact of Wormwood will stop Gog's army (Eze 38:18f) that will be attacking Israel, destroy literal Babylon near the Euphrates River, and cause Israel to seek the Lord.

Rev 16:17-20 says, "And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done. 18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was A GREAT EARTHQUAKE, SUCH AS WAS NOT SINCE MEN WERE UPON THE EARTH, SO MIGHTY AN EARTHQUAKE, AND SO GREAT. 19 And the great city was divided into three parts, AND THE CITIES OF THE NATIONS FELL: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath. 20 AND EVERY ISLAND FLED AWAY, AND THE MOUNTAINS WERE NOT FOUND."

This will be the biggest thing since the impact that destroyed the angelic settlements on Earth before Adam was created.

Gen 1:2 says, "And the earth was (hayah, became) without form (tohu, waste and desolation), and void (bohu, empty); and darkness was upon the face of the deep."

Rev 18:21 says, "And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all."

THE FIRST RAPTURE IS ABOUT MID-TRIB, BECAUSE THOSE OF THE CHURCH OF THYATIRA THAT GET LEFT BEHIND GO INTO THE GREAT TRIBULATION, THE LAST HALF OF THE TRIBULATION

Rev_2:22 says, "Behold, I will cast her (i.e., the church of Thyatira, which means DOMINATING female) into a bed, and them that commit adultery (i.e., join) with her into GREAT TRIBULATION, except they repent of their deeds."

At the present time, Islam seems to be joining up with the dominating church.

"The Vatican Makes Itself The Seat Of THE ANTICHRIST, And POPE FRANCIS Has Muslim Prayers Declared Within The Vatican For The First Time In Its History" (emphasis mine) (http://shoebat.com/2014/06/07/vatican-makes-seat-antichrist-pope-francis-muslim-prayers-declared-within-vatican-first-time-history

THE "COME UP HITHER" IN REV 4:1 IS THE SAME RAPTURE AS THE "RISE" IN REV 11:1, WHICH IS MID-TRIB

Rev 4:1 says, "After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, COME UP HITHER, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter" (i.e., in the Great Tribulation).

Rev 10:11 says, "And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy AGAIN before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings."

Therefore, the "RISE" in Rev 11:1 is the same as the "COME UP HITHER" in Rev. 4:1. There is no earthquake at the First-Trump Rapture of I Th 4:16,17, but there is a great earthquake at the Last-Trump Rapture of I Cor 15:51-54. That earthquake is caused by the impact of the asteroid Wormwood. It comes on the Day of the Lord at the end of the Great Tribulation.

NO EARTHQUAKE AT THE "RISE", i.e., THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE

Rev 11:1-3 says, "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, RISE, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months (i.e., the Great Tribulation). 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses (i.e., Moses and Elijah), and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days (i.e., during the Great Tribulation), clothed in sackcloth."

LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE, GREAT EARTHQUAKE, SUCH AS WAS NOT SINCE MEN WERE UPON THE EARTH

Rev 11:12,13 says, "And they (i.e., Moses and Elijah) heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, COME UP HITHER. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. 13 And the same hour was there a great EARTHQUAKE, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven."

Rev 16:17-21 says, "And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done. 18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a GREAT EARTHQUAKE, SUCH AS WAS NOT SINCE MEN WERE UPON THE EARTH, SO MIGHTY AN EARTHQUAKE, AND SO GREAT. 19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his WRATH. 20 And EVERY ISLAND FLED AWAY, AND THE MOUNTAINS WERE NOT FOUND. 21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great."

These things cannot go on for 1000 years. They happen in one long day.

MORE ABOUT THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE BEING BEFORE THE GREAT TRIBULATION

Mat 24:20-22 says, "But pray ye that your flight (phuge, fleeing, escape, i.e., rapture) be not in the winter (cheimon, rainy season), neither on the sabbath day: 21 For then (tote, at that time) shall be GREAT TRIBULATION, SUCH AS WAS NOT SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE WORLD TO THIS TIME, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened."

JESUS WILL COME AS THE FORMER AND LATTER RAIN

Hos_6:3 says, "Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and HE SHALL COME UNTO US AS THE RAIN, AS THE LATTER AND FORMER RAIN UNTO THE EARTH."

Joe_2:23 says, "Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the LORD your God: for he hath given you the former rain moderately, and he will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain IN THE FIRST MONTH."

The former rain starts Tishri 1, and the latter rain starts Nisan 1. Jesus came at the First Advent on Tishri 1, and will return on Nisan 1.

SONG OF SOLOMON SUGGESTS THAT THE FIRST RAPTURE WILL COME AT THE TIME OF TENDER GRAPES

Son 2:10-16 says, "My beloved spake, and said unto me, RISE UP, my love, my fair one, and come away. 11 For, lo, the winter is past, THE RAIN IS OVER AND GONE (i.e., Nisan is over); 12 The flowers appear on the earth (i.e., April showers bring May flowers); the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle (tor, a ring dove, a turtledove) is heard in our land (i.e., they come in April and leave in October); 13 The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell (i.e., around June 1). ARISE, my love, my fair one, and come away (i.e., maybe on Pentecost, Sivan 6, 5776, Sun. June 12, 2016). 14 O my dove, that art in the clefts of the rock, in THE SECRET places OF THE STAIRS, let me see thy countenance, let me hear thy voice; for sweet is thy voice, and thy countenance is comely. 15 Take us the foxes, the little foxes, that spoil the vines: for OUR VINES HAVE TENDER GRAPES (i.e., at Pentecost). 16 My beloved is mine, and I am his: he feedeth among the lilies" (i.e., the Madonna Lily, Lilium candidum, normally starts to bloom in Sivan).

JESUS CAME ONCE ON PENTECOST, AND COULD COME AGAIN ON PENTECOST

In Joh_14:16-18, Jesus said, "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. 18 I will not leave you comfortless: I WILL COME TO YOU."

Jesus ascended on Ascension Day ten days before Pentecost. Then he came to indwell believers on Pentecost in 30 AD. Pentecost is "the feast of harvest".

Exo 23:15,16 says, "Thou shalt keep the feast of unleavened bread: (thou shalt eat unleavened bread seven days, as I commanded thee, in the time appointed of the month Abib; for in it thou camest out from Egypt: and none shall appear before me empty:) 16 And the feast of harvest (Pentecost), the firstfruits of thy labours, which thou hast sown in the field: and the feast of ingathering (Tabernacles), which is in the end of the year, when thou hast gathered in thy labours out of the field."

THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE WILL TAKE PLACE, THEN JESUS WILL BE GIVEN THE SEVEN-SEALED BOOK THAT IS TO BE UNSEALED IN THE GREAT TRIBULATION

Rev 5:6-10 says, "And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. 7 And he (i.e., the Lamb) came and took the book out of the right hand of him (i.e., Jesus) that sat upon the throne. 8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints. 9 And THEY SUNG A NEW SONG, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; 10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth."

AT THE LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE, ONLY THE 144,000 CAN SING THE NEW SONG

Rev 14:1-5 says, "And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads. 2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: 3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. 4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins (i.e., the foolish virgins who got left behind at the time of the First-Trump Rapture). These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. 5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God."

THE ASTEROID WORMWOOD FALLS AT THE THIRD TRUMPET

After the Mid-Trib Rapture, Rev 8:1,2 says, "And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour. 2 And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets."

This is the Day of the Lord, the Day of God's Wrath.

Rev 8:10,11 says, "And THE THIRD ANGEL SOUNDED, AND THERE FELL A GREAT STAR (aster) FROM HEAVEN, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; 11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter."

THE SECOND RAPTURE IS AFTER THE GREAT TRIBULATION

After the second Rapture, Rev. 7:13-15 says, "And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? 14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, THESE ARE THEY WHICH CAME OUT OF GREAT TRIBULATION, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them."

A POSSIBLE TIMELINE

On 11-24-2013, Pope Francis, inaugurated March 19, 2013, issued his
"APOSTOLIC EXHORTATION
EVANGELII GAUDIUM (meaning The Joy of the Gospel)
OF THE HOLY FATHER
FRANCIS".

In it, he said, "'Non-Christians, by God's gracious initiative, when they are faithful to their own consciences, can live 'justified by the grace of God', and thus be 'associated to the paschal mystery of Jesus Christ'. (http://w2.vatican.va/content/dam/francesco/pdf/apost_exhortations/documents/papa-francesco_esortazione-ap_20131124_evangelii-gaudium_en.pdf)

The Pope also has said, "God is not a divine being or a magician." and "Atheists who do good are redeemed, not just Catholics" (Five Doves: Bob Anderson (7 June 2014), "What Does Pope Francis Believe?")

Joh 3:16 says, "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." That leaves out atheists.

Could this Pope be the Antichrist? Mat_7:15 says, "Beware of false prophets (i.e., the Antichrist and False Prophet), which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."

As a badge of his office, the Pope wears a pallium made out of wool from two specially raised sheep. If this Pope is the Antichrist, March 19, 2013, the day of his inauguration, could have been the beginning of the Tribulation.

Rev_13:1-4 says, "And I stood upon the sand of the sea ('peoples, and multitudes, and NATIONS, and tongues,' Rev 17:15), and saw a beast rise up out of the sea (nations, Rev 17:15), having seven heads (Babel, Babylon II, Media-Persia, Greece, Holy Roman Empire, Ecclesiastical Roman Empire, and Babylon III) and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads (i.e., all 7) the name of blasphemy (PONTIFEX MAXIMUS, started by Nimrod and used by all the leaders of the 7 empires). 2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard (Greece, Rev 7:6), and his feet were as the feet of a bear (Media-Persia, Dan 7:5), and his mouth as the mouth of a lion (Babylon II, Dan 7:4): and the dragon (Satan) gave him his power, and his seat (thronos, which was at Pergamos and then was willed to Rome by Attalus III in 129 BC), and great authority. 3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed (i.e., he retired): and all the world wondered after the beast. 4 And they worshipped the dragon (Satan) which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?"

THE WISE VIRGINS ARE THOSE THAT "DWELL IN HEAVEN" AFTER THE MID-TRIB RAPTURE

Rev 13:5,6 says, "And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue FORTY AND TWO MONTHS (i.e., the first half of the Tribulation). 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and THEM THAT DWELL IN HEAVEN."

THE FIRST RAPTURE ABOUT MID-TRIB

The First-Trump Rapture will have taken place a bit before the 42 months are up Mid-Trib, because he will make war with the left-behind foolish virgins before the False Prophet takes office Mid-Trib.

Rev 13:7-8 says, "And it was given unto him to make war with the saints (i.e., the foolish virgins, the Laodiceans left behind at the first Rapture), and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world."

The False Prophet will take office Mid-Trib. March 19, 2013 + 42 months would put Mid-Trib Sept. 19, 2016.

The First-Trump Rapture would be a bit before that date, maybe on Pentecost, Sun. June 12, 2016, when a trumpet is blown and there are tender grapes as indicated in Song of Solomon 2:10f.

Enoch and Elijah were both raptured. It seems significant that Enoch was born on Sivan 6 and raptured on his birthday, which is now Pentecost, probably the time of the First-Trump Rapture.

In "The Legends of the Jews," H. L Ginzberg wrote that according to Israel's oral tradition, Enoch was raptured--taken to heaven --on the very day of Pentecost.

In Talmudic tradition, Enoch was born and raptured on Pentecost.

The Book of the Secrets of Enoch, Chapter 68:3, says, "He wrote all these signs of all creation, which the Lord created, and wrote three hundred and sixty-six books, and handed them over to his sons and remained on earth thirty days, and WAS AGAIN TAKEN UP TO HEAVEN ON THE SIXTH DAY OF THE MONTH TSIVAN, on the very day and hour when he was born."

Ruth and Boaz, who was from Bethlehem, were married about the time of Pentecost.

According to the Hebrews, the Lord came down on Mt. Sinai on Pentecost, and the first trumpet of the Bible, a heavenly trumpet, was sounded that day.

Lev 23:16,17 says, "Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering (minchah, present, gift) unto the LORD. 17 Ye shall BRING OUT OF YOUR HABITATIONS two wave loaves of two tenth deals: they shall be of fine flour; they shall be baken with leaven; they are the FIRSTFRUITS unto the LORD."

Exo_34:22 says, "And thou shalt observe the feast of weeks (i.e., Pentecost), of the FIRSTFRUITS of wheat harvest, and the feast of ingathering at the year's end."

We seem to be the firstfruits of the wheat harvest.

Jas_1:18 says, "Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that WE SHOULD BE A KIND OF FIRSTFRUITS of his creatures."

Exo_34:26 says, "The FIRST OF THE FIRSTFRUITS of thy land thou shalt bring unto the house of the LORD thy God."

Exo 19:1 says, "In the third month (i.e., Sivan), when the children of Israel were gone forth out of the land of Egypt, the same day came they into the wilderness of Sinai."

THE TYPE FITS PENTECOST

Exo 19:4 says, "Ye have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and how I BARE YOU ON EAGLES' WINGS, AND BROUGHT YOU UNTO MYSELF."

Josephus, a Pharisee priest, said, "At that feast which we call PENTECOST, as the priests were going by night into the inner court of the Temple, as their custom was, to perform their sacred ministrations, they said that, in the first place, they felt a quaking, and heard a great noise, and after that they heard a sound as of a great multitude, saying, 'LET US REMOVE HENCE.'" (Wars, VI.V.111) That sounds like the Rapture will be on Pentecost.

Elijah was caught up in a chariot of fire, appropriate for the Last-Trump Rapture on the Day of God's Wrath.

THE FALSE PROPHET WILL TAKE OFFICE MID-TRIB

Rev 13:11 says, "And I beheld another beast (i.e., the Satan-possessed False Prophet) coming up out of the earth; and he (i.e., Satan, cast out of Heaven into the Earth Mid-Trib) had two horns (i.e., two comings to power, in Judas Iscariot and the False Prophet) like a lamb (i.e., Jesus), and he spake as a dragon."

Rev 12:7-14 says, "And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out INTO THE EARTH, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, NOW (i.e., MId-Trib) IS COME SALVATION (soteria, rescue, deliverance, i.e., the First-Trump Rapture), and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11 And they (i.e., the raptured saints) overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12 THEREFORE REJOICE, YE HEAVENS, AND YE THAT DWELL IN THEM. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time (i.e., the shortened Great Tribulation). 13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child. 14 And to the woman (i.e., Israel) were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place (i.e., Petra), where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time (i.e., during the 3.5 year Great Tribulation), from the face of the serpent."

Rev 17:8 says, "The beast (i.e., Satan) that thou sawest was (i.e., in Judas Iscariot), and is not (i.e., in man now); and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition" (i.e., into the False Prophet, who will then speak as a dragon).

Does this timeline sound reasonable to you? Agape

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