Pro and Con 1869

Posted 7-7-15

INCOMING EMAIL, RE: P & C 1867 QUESTION

I'm a big fan, been reading you for years, bought your books back in the day, and want to thank you for your tireless efforts in illuminating Scripture. You're a great blessing to me, particularly in my advancing years.

Question:

In P & C 1867 you quote Matt 24:20 and in parentheses after the word "flight"
you suggest a number of synonyms for flight including "First Trump Rapture".
The verse (and those around it) warns to pray that your flight doesn't come in the winter or on the sabbath. If, as you suggest, we use "First Trump Rapture" instead of "flight", the verse becomes a warning to pray that the First Trump Rapture not come in the winter or on the Sabbath. I don't understand this. Any help here would be much appreciated.
Thanks again

MY REPLY

To expand the not in winter or on the Sabbath bit, I'll examine some scriptures.

But first, the more I read the scriptures, the more it looks like the First-Trump Rapture might be on a Sunday in the spring. Pentecost, Sivan 6, 5776, will be Sunday, June 12, 2016.

Rev_1:10 says, "I was (lit. became) in the Spirit on the Lord's day (i.e., Sunday), and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet".

No feast day is in the winter, and Sivan 6, Pentecost doesn't seem to be falling on the Saturday Sabbath any time soon.

6th of Sivan, 5776 = Sun, 12 June 2016
6th of Sivan, 5777 = Wed, 31 May 2017
6th of Sivan, 5778 = Sun, 20 May 2018
6th of Sivan, 5779 = Sun, 9 June 2019
6th of Sivan, 5780 = Fri, 29 May 2020
6th of Sivan, 5781 = Mon, 17 May 2021
6th of Sivan, 5782 = Sun, 5 June 2022

Nisan 14, Passover, doesn't fall on Saturday until March 27, 2021
Nisan 15, Unleavened Bread, doesn't fall on Saturday until April 23, 2016
Nisan 17, Firstfruits, doesn't fall on Saturday until April 11, 2020
Tishri 1, Feast of Trumpets, doesn't fall on Saturday until Sept. 19, 2020
Tishri 10, Day of Atonement, doesn't fall on Saturday until Sept 30, 2017
Tishri 15, Tabernacles, doesn't fall on Saturday until Oct. 3, 2020
Pentecost, the Feast of Weeks ("the firstfruits of wheat harvest", Exo 34:22), was Sunday, Sivan 6, Omer 50, May 28, in 30 AD, Julian day 1,466,347. (http://www.torahcalendar.com/Calendar.asp?YM=Y30M3)

Lev 23:15,16 says, "And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering (i.e., Resurrection Day, firstfruits of the barley harvest in 30 AD); seven sabbaths shall be complete: 16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and YE SHALL OFFER A NEW MEAT OFFERING UNTO THE LORD. 17 YE SHALL BRING OUT OF YOUR HABITATIONS TWO WAVE LOAVES of two tenth deals: they shall be of fine flour; they shall be baken with leaven; they are the FIRSTFRUITS unto the LORD."

(All scriptures are from the KJV unless marked otherwise.)

Jas_1:18 says, "Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that WE SHOULD BE A KIND OF FIRSTFRUITS OF HIS CREATURES."

Since we are firstfruits, and Pentecost is the time of the firstfruits of the wheat harvest, a Pentecost First-Trump Rapture makes sense.

Luk_22:31 says, "And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat".

Mat_13:30 says, "Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn."

In Israel, there is a battle between the easterly and westerly winds in Nisan and Iyar. By the harvest festival, Pentecost, the weather stabilizes and the main wheat harvest begins.

Wheat grows all around the world. The world has been divided into ten regions. Their kings have not yet been chosen. The time seems ripe for the First-Trump Rapture.

JESUS "SHALL SO COME IN LIKE MANNER AS YE HAVE SEEN HIM GO INTO HEAVEN"

Act 1:10,11 says, "And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up (i.e., on Pentecost) , behold, two men (i.e., Moses and Elijah) stood by them in white apparel; 11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, SHALL SO COME IN LIKE MANNER AS YE HAVE SEEN HIM GO INTO HEAVEN."

This picture seems perfect. Jesus coming, the First-Trump Rapture taking place Mid-Trib, and Moses and Elijah arriving Mid-Trib.

It doesn't look like the Last-Trump Rapture of I Cor 15:51-54 or the Second Advent will be on Pentecost, so maybe the First-Trump Rapture of I Th 4:16,17 will be on Pentecost.

IN MARK: ALL OF SOUTHERN ISRAEL'S MID-TRIB FLIGHT TO THE MOUNTAINS AND PETRA

Mar_13:14-17 says, "But when ye shall see the abomination (bdelugma, specifically idolatry, i.e., an idol) of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet (Dan 11:31), standing where it ought not (i.e., on the Temple Mount), (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea (i.e., all of southern Israel) flee to the mountains: 15 And let him that is on the housetop not go down into the house, neither enter therein, to take any thing out of his house: 16 And let him that is in the field not turn back again for to take up his garment (i.e., or even get his wife?). 17 But woe to them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!"

Dan 11:31 says, "...they shall pollute the sanctuary (miqdash, holy place) of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination (shiqquts, idol) that maketh desolate."

Not only is an idol placed on the Temple Mount, the False Prophet "sits as God in the temple of God, setting himself up as God."

2 Th 2:1-4 (WEB) says, "Now, brothers, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and our gathering together to him (i.e., at the First-Trump Rapture), we ask you 2 not to be quickly shaken in your mind, nor yet be troubled, either by spirit, or by word, or by letter as from us, saying that the day of Christ (i.e., should be Day of the Lord, as in the Sinaitic Codex of 331 AD, the Vaticanus Codex of 325 AD and the Alexandrine Codex of 400 AD) had come. 3 Let no one deceive you in any way. For it (i.e., the Day of the Lord that follows the Great Tribulation) will not be, unless the DEPARTURE (i.e., the First-Trump Rapture, as in the Geneva Bible and all other English Bibles before the KJV) comes first (i.e., at Mid-Trib), and the man of sin (i.e., the False Prophet) is revealed, the son of destruction, 4 he who opposes and exalts himself against all that is called God or that is worshiped; so that he sits as God in the temple of God, setting himself up as God. 5 Don't you remember that, when I was still with you, I told you these things? 6 Now you know what (i.e., the Holy Spirit) is restraining him, to the end that he may be revealed in his own season" (i.e., the Great Tribulation).

THE DAY OF THE LORD, DAY OF THE LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE, DAY OF GOD'S WRATH, IS AT THE END OF THE SHORTENED GREAT TRIBULATION

Act 2:19-21 says, "And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke: 20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable DAY OF THE LORD come: 21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved" (i.e., in the Last-Trump Rapture).

Rev 6:12-17 says, "And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. 14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and HIDE US FROM THE FACE OF HIM (i.e., Jesus) THAT SITTETH ON THE THRONE (i.e., Jesus will sit on the throne on the Day of the Lord, the first day of his millennial kingdom), AND FROM THE WRATH OF THE LAMB: 17 FOR THE GREAT DAY OF HIS WRATH IS COME; and who shall be able to stand?"

Mat 24:27-31 says, "For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 28 For wheresoever the carcase (i.e., body) is, there will the eagles be gathered together. 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And THEN SHALL APPEAR THE SIGN OF THE SON OF MAN IN HEAVEN: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of HEAVEN to the other."

Exo_19:4 says, "Ye have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and how I bare you on eagles' wings, and brought you unto myself."

Those gathered in HEAVEN on the Day of the Lord are caught up in the First-Trump Rapture of I Th 4:16,17 Mid-Trib. At the same time that they are gathered in heaven on the Day of the Lord, the saints on Earth will be caught up in the Last-Trump Rapture of I Cor 15:51-54.

Mar 13:24-27 says, "But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, 25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. 26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. 27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the EARTH (i.e., in the Last-Trump Rapture) to the uttermost part of HEAVEN" (i.e., those caught up Mid-Trib in the First-Trump Rapture).

Psa_97:10 says, "Ye that love the LORD, hate evil: he preserveth the souls of his saints; he delivereth them out of the hand of the wicked."

Rev 7:14,15 says, "And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them."

IN MARK: OUR MID-TRIB FLIGHT TO HEAVEN WILL NOT BE IN THE WINTER; IN SONG OF SOLOMON 2:10f, OUR FLIGHT WILL BE IN THE SPRING

Mar 13:18-27 says, "And PRAY YE THAT YOUR FLIGHT (phuge, fleeing, escape, flight, from pheugo, VANISH, i.e., the Rapture) BE NOT IN THE WINTER. 19 FOR IN THOSE DAYS SHALL BE AFFLICTION (thlipsis, persecution, tribulation, trouble, i.e., the Great Tribulation), SUCH AS WAS NOT FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE CREATION WHICH GOD CREATED UNTO THIS TIME, NEITHER SHALL BE. 20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days. 21 And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not: 22 For false Christs (pseudocristos, i.e., antichrists) and FALSE PROPHETS SHALL RISE, AND SHALL SHEW SIGNS AND WONDERS, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect. 23 But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things. 24 But in those days, after that tribulation (i.e., after the Great Tribulation), the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, 25 And the stars of heaven shall fall (i.e., including Satan's asteroid Wormwood, Rev 8:11), and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. 26 And then (tote, at that time) shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. 27 And then (tote, at that time) shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect (i.e., including the foolish virgins) from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth (i.e., in the Last-Trump Rapture) to the uttermost part of heaven" (i.e., those wise virgins that were caught up Mid-Trib in the First-Trump Rapture).

IN MATTHEW: JUDAEA'S MID-TRIB FLIGHT TO THE MOUNTAINS AND PETRA

Mat 24:15-19 says, "When (i.e., Mid-Trib) ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation (i.e., an idol), spoken of by Daniel the prophet (Dan 11:31), stand in the holy place (i.e., the Temple or Temple Mount), (whoso readeth, let him understand:) 16 Then (tote, at that time, i.e., Mid-Trib) let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: 17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: 18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes (i.e., or even his wife?) 19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!"

IN MATTHEW: OUR MID-TRIB FLIGHT TO HEAVEN

Mat 24:20-24 says, "But pray ye that your flight (phuge, fleeing, escape, flight, from pheugo, to run away, escape, VANISH, i.e., in the First-Trump Rapture in the spring) be NOT IN THE WINTER, NEITHER ON THE SABBATH DAY: 21 FOR THEN (tote, at that time) SHALL BE GREAT TRIBULATION, SUCH AS WAS NOT SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE WORLD TO THIS TIME, NO, NOR EVER SHALL BE. 22 AND EXCEPT THOSE DAYS SHOULD BE SHORTENED, THERE SHOULD NO FLESH BE SAVED: BUT FOR THE ELECT'S SAKE THOSE DAYS SHALL BE SHORTENED. 23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect."

WE ARE CAUGHT UP AT THE END OF THE FIRST BEAST'S, THE ANTICHRIST'S, 42-MONTH REIGN

Rev 13:4-7 says, "And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast (i.e., the first beast, the Antichrist): and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? (i.e., the Pontifex Maximus) who is able to make war with him? ('by peace, he shall destroy many' Dan 8:25) 5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months (i.e., the first half of the Tribulation). 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and THEM THAT DWELL IN HEAVEN (i.e., the First-Trump Rapture of the wise virgins has just taken place). 7 AND IT WAS GIVEN UNTO HIM TO MAKE WAR WITH THE SAINTS (the foolish virgins that were left behind), AND TO OVERCOME THEM: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations."

By the time of the First-Trump Rapture, the Antichrist has ruled about 42 months.

AFTER THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE, THE FALSE PROPHET IS REVEALED

Rev 13:11-18 says, "And I beheld another beast (i.e., Satan) coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns (i.e., two comings to power in the body of a man, Judas Iscariot and the False Prophet) like a lamb (i.e., Jesus), and he (i.e, the Satan-indwelt False Prophet) spake as a dragon. 12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast (i.e., the Antichrist) before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. 13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, 14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image (i.e., an idol, symbol of a false religion) to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. 15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. 16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."

Six is the number of man, created on the 6th day, so 666 means man, man, man.
Also, the Babylonians added up the numbers 1 through 36 and assigned the sum, 666, to the sun god.
Roman numerals D, 500 + C, 100 + L, 50 + X, 10 + V, 5 + I, 1 = 666.
Vicarius Filii Dei (Vicar of the Son of God) as Roman numerals equals 666.
Teitan (Satan) = 666.

From Nimrod on, the heads of the seven world empires all have the title Pontifex Maximus. Literally, it means greatest bridge-builder. It was a title given to Nimrod, the greatest high priest of the group worshipping the sun god, baal.

1. Babel, Babylon I
2. Babylon II
3. Media-Persia
4. Greece
5. Holy Roman Empire
6. Ecclesiastical Holy Roman Empire
7. Babylon III

Rev. 17:10 says, "there are seven kings: five are fallen (kings of Babel, Babylon, Media-Persia, Greece and Imperial Rome), and one is (Ecclesiastic Rome, 6th head, the Pope), and the other (7th head, the False Prophet) is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space" (the shortened Great Tribulation).

When the False Prophet, the 7th king, comes, he will speak "as a dragon" (Satan) and "exerciseth all the power of the first beast" (the 6th king, the Pontifex Maximus; Rev. 13:11,12).

Rev. 17:18 says, "Rev 17:18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city (i.e., Rome), which reigneth over the kings of the earth."

Dan 8:23-25 says, "...when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up. 24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people. 25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft (mirmah, fraud, deceit, treachery) to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand."

THE SECRET OF THE STAIRS, THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE, SEEMS TO BE IN THE SPRING

Son 2:10-16 says, "My beloved spake, and said unto me, RISE UP, my love, my fair one, and come away. 11 For, lo, the WINTER IS PAST, the rain is over and gone; 12 The flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle (lit., turtledove, they come in April and leave in October) is heard in our land (i.e. when they arrive, they seem to coo from every shrub and tree); 13 The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the TENDER GRAPE give a good smell. ARISE, my love, my fair one, and COME AWAY. 14 O my dove, that art in the clefts of the rock, in the secret places (i.e., places is not in the original) of the stairs, let me see thy countenance, let me hear thy voice; for sweet is thy voice, and thy countenance is comely. 15 Take us the foxes, the little foxes, that spoil the vines: for our vines have tender grapes. 16 My beloved is mine, and I am his: he feedeth among the lilies." (In Israel, the Madonna Lily starts to bloom in May.)

Pentecost is the beginning of wheat harvest. The word "wheat" only appears in the Song of Solomon once. Son 7:2 says, "...thy belly is like an heap of wheat set about with lilies."

That fits Pentecost, as the "tender grape" does in 2:13.

"ALL YE INHABITANTS OF THE WORLD, AND DWELLERS ON THE EARTH, SEE YE"

Isa 18:3-7 fits Pentecost. It says, "ALL YE INHABITANTS OF THE WORLD, AND DWELLERS ON THE EARTH, see ye, when he lifteth up an ensign (i.e., the UN flag) on the mountains (i.e., kingdoms); and WHEN HE BLOWETH A TRUMPET (i.e., on a feast day), hear ye. 4 For so the LORD said unto me, I will take my rest, and I will consider (nabat, regard with pleasure) IN MY DWELLING PLACE (i.e., heaven) like a clear heat upon herbs, and like a cloud of dew in the heat of harvest. 5 For afore the harvest, when the bud is perfect, and the sour grape is ripening in the flower (i.e., IN THE SPRING), he shall both cut off the sprigs (i.e., with fruit) with pruning hooks, and take away (i.e., in the First-Trump Rapture) and cut down the branches (i.e., with no fruit). 6 They shall be left together unto the fowls of the mountains, and to the beasts of the earth: and the fowls SHALL SUMMER upon them, and all the beasts of the earth SHALL WINTER upon them. 7 IN THAT TIME (i.e., SPRING) SHALL THE PRESENT BE BROUGHT UNTO THE LORD OF HOSTS OF A PEOPLE SCATTERED AND PEELED, and from a people terrible from their beginning hitherto; a nation meted out and trodden under foot, whose land the rivers have spoiled, to the place of the name of the LORD of hosts, the mount Zion" (i.e., the heavenly one).

The Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges says, "the vine is conceived as cut down at that stage of its growth which coincides with the (wheat-) harvest."

The wheat harvest starts on Pentecost.

Mat 24:15-22 says, "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation (i.e., an idol), spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand: [i.e., at Mid-Trib]) 16 Then (tote, at that time) let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: 17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: 18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. 19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 20 But PRAY YE THAT YOUR FLIGHT (phuge, escape) BE NOT IN THE WINTER, NEITHER ON THE SABBATH DAY: 21 FOR THEN (i.e., on a Saturday in the winter) SHALL BE GREAT TRIBULATION, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days (i.e., the Great Tribulation) should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened."

What happens in that winter? Without the Mark of the Beast, no man will be able to even buy food. They will be between a rock and a hard place (between the wrath of the False Prophet and the wrath of God) for Rev 14:9,10 warns, "If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, 10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the PRESENCE of the Lamb" (i.e., on the Day of the Lord).

Rev 13:15-17 says, "And he (i.e., the False Prophet) had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. 16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name."

The Song of Solomon 2:10f suggests that the Rapture will be on Pentecost (called the feast of harvest in Exo 23:16), in the spring when there are tender grapes.

The harvest chart at https://www.gci.org/law/festivals/harvest shows that grapes begin to ripen in June. They are harvested in June, July, August and September. Next Pentecost (Sivan 6, 5776) will be Sun. June 12, 2016, not on the Sabbath or in winter. Sunday reminds me of Resurrection Day and Pentecost was when Jesus came to indwell the Church. He might come to the Church again on Pentecost.

Jesus is the vine, and we are the branches. The grape harvest started in June and was completed by Tabernacles, so the grape harvest could mark the times of both Raptures. Wheat harvest started on Pentecost and continued through summer, including the harvest of wheat planted in the spring, so it too could mark the times of both Raptures.

THE LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE MAY BE ON THE FEAST OF TRUMPETS, THE GREAT AND TERRIBLE DAY OF THE LORD, THE DAY OF GOD'S WRATH

1Co 15:51-54 says, "Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory."

Joe 1:14,15 says, "Sanctify ye a fast (i.e., the upcoming Day of Atonement), call a solemn assembly (i.e., on the Feast of Trumpets), GATHER THE ELDERS AND ALL THE INHABITANTS OF THE LAND INTO THE HOUSE OF THE LORD, 15 Alas for the day! for the day of the LORD is at hand, and as a destruction from the Almighty shall it come."

Joe 2:1,2 says, "Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand; 2 A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations."

THE FEAST OF TRUMPETS, THE DAY OF THE MARRIAGE OF THE LAMB, THE LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE, AND THE MARRIAGE SUPPER OF THE LAMB

Joe 2:15-18 says, "Blow the trumpet in Zion (i.e., on the Feast of Trumpets), sanctify a fast (i.e, the upcoming Day of Atonement), call a solemn assembly: 16 GATHER THE PEOPLE, sanctify the congregation, assemble the elders, gather the children, and those that suck the breasts: let the BRIDEGROOM go forth of his chamber, and the BRIDE out of her closet (chuppah, canopy, closet, i.e., in Heaven). 17 Let the priests, the ministers of the LORD, weep between the porch and the altar, and let them say, Spare thy people, O LORD, and give not thine heritage to reproach, that the heathen should rule over them: wherefore should they say among the people, Where is their God? 18 Then will the LORD be jealous for his land, and pity his people."

Amo 8:2,3 says, "And he said, Amos, what seest thou? And I said, A basket of summer fruit. Then said the LORD unto me, The end is come upon my people of Israel; I will not again pass by them any more. 3 And the songs of the temple shall be howlings in that day, saith the Lord GOD: there shall be many dead bodies in every place; they shall cast them forth with silence."

Mic 7:1,2 says, "Woe is me! for I am as when they have gathered the summer fruits, as the grapegleanings of the vintage: there is no cluster to eat: my soul desired the firstripe fruit. 2 THE GOOD MAN IS PERISHED OUT OF THE EARTH".

In Israel, little or no rain falls from Sivan to Tishri, so the main harvest takes place Sivan to Tishri. The two harvests of saints may be in Sivan and Tishri. It is appropriate that the Church was born on Pentecost. Jesus was born on Tishri 1.

1967 (the Six-Day War) + 48.33 (a generation, Mt 1:17) = 2015.33. A third of a year after 2015 would be the spring of 2016. I hope the Rapture will be then.

It seems noteworthy that an outpouring of the Holy Spirit resulting in the Jesus Movement, took place in 1967. At that time, college-age kids were coming to my house daily for Bible study, and I hadn't ever set one up. The Lord caused it to happen, not me. They came and went according to their own schedules. I had to work around those.

On Pentecost, two loaves of leavened bread were waved before the Lord. Maybe they represented two major events that were to take place on Pentecost for the Church, her birth and her rapture.

THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE IS FOR THE BRIDE SAINTS; THE LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE IS FOR THE FRIENDS OF THE BRIDEGROOM

Rev 19:6-9 says, "And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth. 7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for THE MARRIAGE OF THE LAMB IS COME, and his wife hath made herself ready. 8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. 9 And he saith unto me, Write, BLESSED ARE THEY WHICH ARE CALLED UNTO THE MARRIAGE SUPPER OF THE LAMB. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God."

Rev 19:11-21 says, "And I saw heaven opened, and behold a WHITE HORSE; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. 17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; 18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great. 19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. 20 AND THE BEAST WAS TAKEN, AND WITH HIM THE FALSE PROPHET, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. 21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh."

MID-TRIB

Mat 24:15,16 says, "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains".

Mat 24:21,22 says, "....For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened."

AFTER THE GREAT TRIBULATION

Matthew 24:29-31 says, "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other."

Mar 13:27 says, "And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth (i.e., those caught up in the Last-Trump Rapture) to the uttermost part of heaven (i.e., those caught up in the First-Trump Rapture Mid-Trib)" Agape

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