Pro and Con 1886

Posted 10-25-15

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INCOMING EMAIL, RE: THE VERY 'LAST SIGN' GIVEN TO US BEFORE THE RAPTURE

Matthew 24:28
"For wheresoever a dead carcass is, there will the eagles be gathered together."

The next two words in Christ's Olivet Discourse are , "Immediately after...."

The " dead carcasses " are those of the Gog-Magog Army whom God kills, in Israel, after he uses them as His weapon of indignation and great tribulation upon Israel, and "there the eagles will be gathered together" to feed on them in Israel.

The rapture comes "Immediately after" the end of the Gog-Magog War of God's great tribulation upon Israel as described in Matthew 24:29-31.

The Gog-Magog War of great tribulation upon Israel begins in Matthew 24:21 and ends in Matthew 24:28

Jesus shortens the Gog-Magog War of great tribulation upon Israel to save 1/3 of the flesh of the Jews, and protect the woman in the wilderness from the presence of Satan for the following 1,260 days in Matthew 24:22 and Revelation 12:6 which are companion Scriptures, meaning that they happen at the same time.

MY REPLY

THE ANTICHRIST AND "THEM THAT DWELL IN HEAVEN" A BIT BEFORE THE FALSE PROPHET TAKES COMMAND MID-TRIB

Rev 13:5-9 says, "And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and THEM THAT DWELL IN HEAVEN. 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9 If any man have an ear, let him hear." THE FALSE PROPHET BECOMES SATAN-POSSESSED WHEN SATAN IS CAST OUT OF HEAVEN AT MID-TRIB

Rev 12:7,8 says, "And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven."

Rev 13:11 says, "And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon."

AFTER THE GREAT TRIBULATION, THE WISE VIRGINS WHO WERE RAPTURED MID-TRIB WILL BE GATHERED "FROM ONE END OF HEAVEN TO THE OTHER"

Mat 24:27-31 says, "For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 28 For wheresoever the carcase (i.e., the Body of Christ) is (i.e., it arrives in Heaven about Mid-Trib), there will the eagles (i.e., saints out of the Great Tribulation) be gathered together. 29 Immediately AFTER THE TRIBULATION of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light (i.e., on the day of God's Wrath, Rev. 6:12,17), and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then (i.e., on the day of God's Wrath) shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of HEAVEN to the other."

AT THAT TIME, AFTER THE GREAT TRIBULATION, THE FOOLISH VIRGINS WILL BE GATHERED FROM "THE UTTERMOST PART OF THE EARTH"

Mar 13:24-27 says, "But in those days, AFTER THAT TRIBULATION, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, 25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. 26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. 27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the EARTH to the uttermost part of HEAVEN."

BOTH WISE AND FOOLISH VIRGINS WILL BE GATHERED TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY IN HEAVEN ON THE DAY OF THE LORD AT THE END OF THE GREAT TRIBULATION

Luk 17:30-37 says, "Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed. 31 In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back. 32 Remember Lot's wife. 33 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it. 34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left. 35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, WHERESOEVER THE BODY IS (i.e., THE BODY OF CHRIST IS ALREADY IN HEAVEN), THITHER WILL THE EAGLES (i.e., THE FOOLISH-VIRGIN SAINTS) BE GATHERED TOGETHER."

THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE WILL TAKE PLACE IN THE SPRING, i.e., PROBABLY ON PENTECOST, SUNDAY, JUNE 12, 2016

Luk 21:29-36 says, "And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees; 30 When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that SUMMER IS NOW NIGH AT HAND. 31 So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand. 32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled. 33 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. 34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. 35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. 36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man."

THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY IN THE HEAVENLY JERUSALEM ON PENTECOST

Heb 12:18-21 says, "For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched (i.e., Mt. Sinai), and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest, 19 And the sound of a trumpet, and the voice of words; which voice they that heard intreated that the word should not be spoken to them any more: 20 (For they could not endure that which was commanded, And if so much as a beast touch the mountain, it shall be stoned, or thrust through with a dart: 21 And so terrible was the sight, that Moses said, I exceedingly fear and quake:)

Heb 12:22-26 says, "But ye are come unto mount Sion (i.e., Saturn, with its rings; Eze 1:26-28), and unto the city of the living God, THE HEAVENLY JERUSALEM, and to an innumerable company of angels, 23 To the GENERAL ASSEMBLY and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, 24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel. 25 See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven: 26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet ONCE MORE I shake not the earth only, but also heaven."

EARTH WAS SHAKEN BEFORE AT MID-TRIB WHEN SATAN WAS CAST OUT OF HEAVEN AND THE WISE VIRGINS WERE CAUGHT UP

Rev 12:6-12 says, "And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. 7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time."

> > The rapture comes "Immediately after" the end of the Gog-Magog War of God's great tribulation upon Israel as described in Matthew 24:29-31.

The First-Trump Rapture of I Th 4:16,17 takes place just before Mid-Trib. The Last-Trump Rapture of I Cor. 15:51-54 takes place at the end of the shortened Great Tribulation, just before the Wrath of God is poured out on Babylon.

Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues."

Rev 18:21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all."

> > The Gog-Magog War of great tribulation upon Israel begins in Matthew 24:21 and ends in Matthew 24:28

The Gog and Magog War takes place at the end of the Great Tribulation. Satan's asteroid Wormwood of Rev. 8:11 will hit Babylon. A smaller asteroid will impact the NE Mediterranean Sea, causing a tsunami that will wash Gog's army out of Israel's hair.

Eze 38:18-23 says, "And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that my fury shall come up in my face. 19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel; 20 So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence (paniym, face, i.e., they will see the Sign of the Son of Man in the sky), and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground. 21 And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord GOD: every man's sword shall be against his brother. 22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone. 23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD."

> > Jesus shortens the Gog-Magog War of great tribulation upon Israel to save 1/3 of the flesh of the Jews, and protect the woman in the wilderness from the presence of Satan for the following 1,260 days in Matthew 24:22 and Revelation 12:6 which are companion Scriptures, meaning that they happen at the same time.

The Gog-Magog War takes place at the end of the Great Tribulation. Agape

INCOMING EMAIL, RE: THE REASON THE CHURCH CANNOT BE RAPTURED BEFORE - "NOW"

Revelation 12:9-10 reveals to us why the Church cannot be raptured to heaven before "NOW". It is because Satan must be cast out of heaven BEFORE the Church can be raptured to heaven according to the following Scripture.

Revelation 12:9-10 ".................he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. Then I heard a loud voice IN HEAVEN saying, NOW IS SALVATION (meaning rapture), and strength, and the KINGDOM OF OUR GOD, and THE POWER OF HIS CHRIST...." BECAUSE the accuser of our brethren (Satan) has been cast down.

The rapture of the Church cannot, and will not happen, UNTIL AFTER Satan is cast out of heaven, and down to earth. "NOW" means 'right now' or 'this minute' AFTER Satan is cast out of heaven, and down to earth, is when the rapture will happen according to this Scripture. So you see, there is one HUGE pre-requisite to the event of the rapture happening.

MY REPLY

I agree that the church will be raptured when Satan and his fallen angels are cast out of Heaven around Mid-Trib.

"THEM THAT DWELL IN HEAVEN" MID-TRIB ARE THE WISE VIRGINS

Rev 13:5,6 says, "And there was given unto him (i.e., Antichrist) a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months (i.e., until Mid-Trib when the False Prophet comes to power). 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and THEM THAT DWELL IN HEAVEN."

At that point, we are not told exactly what day the Rapture takes place on, but it is near the end of the reign of the first beast, Antichrist.

Rev 13:7-11 says, "And it was given unto him (i.e., Antichrist) to make war with the saints (i.e., the foolish virgins left behind at the First-Trump Rapture of I Th 4:16,17), and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9 If any man have an ear, let him hear. 10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints. 11 And I beheld another beast (i.e., the Satan-possessed False Prophet) coming up out of the earth (i.e., at Mid-Trib); and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon."

One key to Mid-Trib is when Michael stands up, both in the New and Old Testaments.

THE 1,260-DAY GREAT TRIBULATION IS TO BE SHORTENED

Mat_24:22 says, "And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened."

Mar_13:20 says, "And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days."

MICHAEL STANDS UP MID-TRIB

Rev 12:6-10 says, "And the woman (i.e., Israel) fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place (i.e., Petra) prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days (i.e., during the Great Tribulation, but it will be shortened or no flesh would be saved). 7 And there was war in heaven (i.e., MID-TRIB): MICHAEL and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, NOW (arti, just now, i.e., AT MID-TRIB) is come salvation (soteria, rescue, deliverance, i.e., the First-Trump Rapture), and strength, AND THE KINGDOM OF OUR GOD, AND THE POWER OF HIS CHRIST: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night."

Dan 12:1 says, "And at that time (i.e., Mid-Trib) shall MICHAEL stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble (i.e., the Great Tribulation), such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered (malat, escape, leap out), every one that shall be found written in the book."

SATAN WILL ENTER INTO THE FALSE PROPHET AFTER THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE

Rev 17:8 The beast (i.e., Satan) that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition (i.e., the False Prophet, the second son of perdition, Judas Iscariot was the first): and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was (i.e., in Judas Iscariot), and is not (i.e., in man now), and yet is (i.e., exists)."

Rev 17:10,11 says, "And there are seven kings: five are fallen (i.e., kings of Babel, Babylon II, Medo-Persia, Greece, Holy Roman Empire), and one is (i.e., Antichrist, leader of the Holy Roman Ecclesiastical Empire), and the other (i.e., the False Prophet) is not yet come; and when he cometh (i.e., Mid-Trib), he must continue a short space (i.e., the shortened Great Tribulation). 11 And the beast (i.e., Satan) that was (i.e., in Judas Iscariot), and is not (i.e., in man now), even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition" (i.e., the False Prophet).

HOW DOES ONE GET THEIR NAME WRITTEN IN THE BOOK?

Rom 10:9,10 says, "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."

Joh 3:16-18 says, "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God." Agape

INCOMING EMAIL, RE: THE REASON THE CHURCH CANNOT BE RAPTURED BEFORE - "NOW"

Revelation 12:9-10 reveals to us why the Church cannot be raptured to heaven before "NOW". It is because Satan must be cast out of heaven BEFORE the Church can be raptured to heaven according to the following Scripture.

Revelation 12:9-10 ".................he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. Then I heard a loud voice IN HEAVEN saying, NOW IS SALVATION (meaning rapture), and strength, and the KINGDOM OF OUR GOD, and THE POWER OF HIS CHRIST...." BECAUSE the accuser of our brethren (Satan) has been cast down.

The rapture of the Church cannot, and will not happen, UNTIL AFTER Satan is cast out of heaven, and down to earth. "NOW" means 'right now' or 'this minute' AFTER Satan is cast out of heaven, and down to earth, is when the rapture will happen according to this Scripture. So you see, there is one HUGE pre-requisite to the event of the rapture happening.

MY REPLY

I agree.

INCOMING EMAIL, RE: Hi

Thanks for all your wonderful articles on the rapture and other material. I was thinking maybe the two witnesses are Elijah and John the revelator himself because of the following statement.
Rev 10:11 says, "And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy AGAIN before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings."
What do you think? I had heard this from an Australian preacher. thanks and let me know your thoughts

MY REPLY

I'm glad you appreciate what I write. After having a small stroke, I am lucky to be continuing where I left off with no trouble.

I think the other witness is Moses.

Rev 11:3,14 says, "And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth. 4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth."

Zec 4:11-14 says, "What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof? 12 And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves? 13 And he answered me and said, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord. 14 Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth."

Mat 17:1-3 says, "And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart, 2 And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light. 3 And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him."

> > Rev 10:11 says, "And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy AGAIN before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings."

To me, this proves that the "RISE" in Rev. 11:1 and the "COME UP HITHER" in Rev. 4:1 are the same Mid-Trib Rapture, which is the First-Trump Rapture.

Rev 13:5-9 says, "And there was given unto him (i.e., the First Beast, the Antichrist) a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and THEM THAT DWELL IN HEAVEN. 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints (i.e., the foolish virgins left behind), and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9 If any man have an ear, let him hear."

The Last-Trump Rapture is in Rev. 11:12. It says, "And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them."

Ron Reese thinks the Tribulation will begin 11 - 11 - 15.

I think it started when this Pope was chosen 3 - 13 - 13. He said that God is not divine.

The truth is that Jesus is "the Lord of the whole earth." He is the divine creator.

Joh 1:1-3 says, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." Agape

HER REPLY

Thanks for that detailed explanation Marilyn. I pray you feel a 100%. Yes I think the tribulation will begin before this year is over, I also do read
fivedoves.com
raptureready.com
raptureintheairnow.com
http://daniel11truth.com/
watch.org
bloodmoonscoming.com
Hightimetoawake.com
http://www.thepropheticscroll.org/
on a regular basis.
lately I have started reading http://palmtreeofdeborah.blogspot.in/. She has a lot of interesting articles too. Oct 23rd article is very interesting.
Thank you so much and do keep in touch. G-d Bless

MY REPLY

Thanks for your prayers. I'm back to normal, but the doctor made me start to use a cane to prevent a fall and a possible broken hip. I got the treadmill to stay on my own two feet, but am obeying the doctor.

Glad to visit some new sites, I clicked on http://daniel11truth.com/ in your email, and was astonished at some of the author's statements.

On his website, he does not reveal who he is, but he said, "There is proof in the Bible that the rapture is the 6th seal, not the 7th trumpet, not the 7th bowl, not after the 7th church. The rapture is the sixth seal because the signs in the sun, moon, and stars in Matthew 24:29, (when Jesus appears and the angels gather the elect), are identical to the signs given at the sixth seal....the other 5 seals are done.)"

However, Jesus is not given the 7-sealed book until after the first Rapture. Therefore the First-Trump Rapture of I Th 4:16,17, the "COME UP HITHER" of Rev. 4:1 and the "RISE" of Rev 11:1 precede all 7 seals. It is the Last-Trump Rapture of I Cor 15:51-54 that takes place after the sixth seal.

HERE ARE OTHER THINGS HE SAID

"Eventually, he (i.e., Antichrist) will even claim to be above God. Yet, he will be powerless against God's two witnesses, for the first 1260 days, because they will be prophesying on the Temple Mount. When they are done, the Kingdom of the Beast, led by the antichrist, will be allowed to kill them, but 3.5 days later, they will stand and ascend to heaven, in full view of the people.

"...after the 144,000 are martyred, the Trumpet plagues will be over and the Bowl plagues will start..."

"...the war with 'gog and magog', in Ezekiel and Revelation, are the same war and it takes place after the 1000 years, not before the rapture..."

"...don't be afraid to tell your pastor or other pastors because this explanation of end times is iron-clad. No one can prove it wrong because it doesn't contradict the Bible."

MY THOUGHTS

He thinks the two witnesses are here during the first half of the Tribulation. I think they are here during the last half.

Rev 11:1-3 says, "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise (i.e., in the Mid-Trib Rapture), and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth."

Those 42 months are the Great Tribulation. It ends with the Last-Trump Rapture at the sixth seal (Rev. 6:12) and a great earthquake caused by the impact of Satan's asteroid Wormwood (Rev. 8:11; 18:21).

He thinks the 144,000 are martyred. I think they are raptured. That is the Last-Trump Rapture of I Cor 15:51-54.

Rev 7:14,15 says, "These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them."

He thinks the Gog and Magog War takes place after the Millennium.

I think it takes place at the end of the Great Tribulation.

To me, his ideas contradict the Bible.

I ALSO CLICKED THIS URL

http://www.thepropheticscroll.org/

It says, "27th September 2015
"The Francis visit to the US:

"His central message is to end 'exclusion' on the socio / political / economic and religious fronts. Inclusion in the 'universal brotherhood of man' is his answer. 'You don't need to believe in God to be saved' is one of his most notorious recent statements."

That statement is the kind of thing I would expect to hear from Antichrist.

This author says, "There is very little doubt and great consensus among prophecy teachers that the tribulation period will begin on the Feast of Trumpets."

I still think it may have begun on the day this Pope was chosen, 3-13-13. Agape

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