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Posted 11-7-15

AN ALBINO SQUIRREL, ONE OF GOD'S CUTE CREATIONS

MY EMAIL TO RICK OF daniel11truth.com

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> > Do feel free to write to Rick of daniel11truth.com
his email id is comment@daniel11truth.com he will be happy to see your article and explanation.

Hi Rick;

> > The Seals prove pre-tribulation because they explain our current position in Revelation and explain why the ‘multitude from every nation' (gentiles) are in heaven between the 6th and 7th Seals. That's because the rapture is the 6th Seal. It's simple to understand if you see that the other Seals are in the past. And since the Trumpet plagues can't start until the Seals are over (Rev. 8:1-6), pre-tribulation is proven naturally because the rest of Revelation has to take place.

There are two Raptures. The first is in I Th 4:16,17. The last is in I Cor 15:51-54. They are not exactly the same.

AT THE FIRST TRUMP, THE WISE VIRGINS COMING OUT OF EARTH MID-TRIB WILL NOT DIE, BUT THEIR BODIES HAVE NOT YET ACTUALLY BECOME IMMORTAL

1Th 4:16,17 says, "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."

To the churches, Rev 3:10-13 says, "Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation (i.e., the temptation to take the Mark of the Beast to be able to buy and sell), which shall come upon all the world (i.e., during the Great Tribulation), to try them that dwell upon the earth. 11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown. 12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name. 13 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches."

Of the False Prophet who rules during the Great Tribulation, Rev 13:16-18 says, "And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."

VICARIUS FILII DEI (Vicar of the Son of God) = 666 in Roman numerals.

AT THE LAST TRUMP, THE BODIES OF ALL THE SAINTS OF BOTH RAPTURES ACTUALLY BECOME IMMORTAL IN THE TWINKLING OF AN EYE

1Co 15:51-54 says, "Behold, I shew you a mystery; We (i.e., ALL SAINTS OF BOTH RAPTURES, INCLUDING PAUL) shall not all sleep, but WE SHALL ALL BE CHANGED, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, AT THE LAST TRUMP: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption (i.e., at either Rapture), and this mortal shall have put on immortality (i.e., at the last Rapture), then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory."

From 1960 until lately, in spite of constant Bible study, I thought the first Rapture would be Pre-Trib. I read books out of BIOLA's Seminary Collection for 7 years. Teachers coming out of BIOLA and Dallas Theological Seminary convinced me that the Rapture would be Pre-Trib. Along the way, I attended the Rolling Hills Covenant Church when Chuck Swindall was pastor and the Calvary Church of Santa Ana when David Hocking was pastor. They taught the Pre-Trib Rapture.

WHAT CHANGED MY MIND LATELY WAS REV 1:9-11, 10:11, 11:1-3, AND 13:5-9

Now, I think the First-Trump Rapture of I Th 4:16,17 is about Mid-Trib, just before the first seal is broken in Rev 6:1, and the Last-Trump Rapture of I Cor 15:51-54 is after the sixth seal is broken on the Day of God's Wrath in Rev 6:12.

Rev 1:9-11 says, "I John, who also am your brother, and companion IN TRIBULATION, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos (i.e., meaning mortal), for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. 10 I was (lit., became) in the Spirit on the Lord's day (i.e., Sunday, maybe next Pentecost, Sunday, June 12, 2016), and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, 11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last".

Rev 10:11 says, "And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy AGAIN before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings."

Therefore, the "RISE" of Rev 11:1 is the same as the "COME UP HITHER" of Rev. 4:1. That is the First-Trump Rapture of I Th 4:16,17. The 42-month Great Tribulation follows the Mid-Trib Rapture, when there is NO EARTHQUAKE.

Rev 11:1-3 says, "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, RISE, and measure the temple of God (i.e., we are the temple of the Holy Spirit), and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months (i.e., during the Great Tribulation). 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses (i.e., Moses and Elijah), and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days (i.e., during the Great Tribulation), clothed in sackcloth."

Moses and Elijah will probably come at the time of the Mid-Trib Rapture, and be raptured at the end of the Great Tribulation, when there will be a great earthquake when Satan's asteroid Wormwood will impact Earth and destroy Babylon (Rev 8:11, 18:21).

John and the other elders are caught up in the Mid-Trib First-Trump Rapture of I Thess 4:16,17. Moses and Elijah are caught up in the Last-Trump Rapture of I Cor 15:51-54. It takes place at the end of the shortened Great Tribulation.

In Rev 4:1, John said, "After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, COME UP HITHER".

Rev 5:9,10 says, "And they (i.e., the saints just caught up) sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; 10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests".

There is no earthquake at the First-Trump Rapture, but there is "A GREAT EARTHQUAKE" at the Last-Trump Rapture.

Rev 11:12,13 says, "And they (i.e., Moses and Elijah) heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, COME UP HITHER. And they ASCENDED UP TO HEAVEN in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. 13 And the same hour was there A GREAT EARTHQUAKE, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven."

"IF ANY MAN HAVE AN EAR, LET HIM HEAR"

Rev 13:5-9 takes place in the first half of the Tribulation, when the Beast, the Antichrist is in power. The Satan-possessed False Prophet comes to power Mid-Trib, i.e., in Rev 13:11.

Rev 13:5-9 says, "And there was given unto him (i.e., the first Beast, the Antichrist) a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months (i.e., the first half of the Tribulation). 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and THEM THAT DWELL IN HEAVEN (i.e., the wise virgin saints that were just caught up). 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints (i.e., the foolish virgins left behind at the first Rapture), and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9 If any man have an ear, let him hear."

Rev 13:11 says, "And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon."

THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE TAKES PLACE MID-TRIB, WHEN SATAN IS CAST OUT OF HEAVEN

Rev 12:6-12 says, "And the woman (i.e, Israel) fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place (i.e., Petra) prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days (i.e., during the Great Tribulation). 7 And there was war in heaven: MICHAEL and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now (arti, just now) is come salvation (soteria, rescue, i.e., the First-Trump Rapture), and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time."

Dan 12:1 says, "And at that time (i.e., Mid-Trib) shall MICHAEL stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be (i.e., afterward) a time of trouble (i.e., the Great Tribulation), such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book."

BLASPHEMY

This Pope said that God was not divine. Therefore, I think the Tribulation started when he was chosen 3/13/13.

"The number 13 is symbolic of rebellion and lawlessness. Nimrod, the mighty hunter who was 'before the Lord' (meaning he tried to take the place of God - Genesis 10:9), was the 13th in Ham's line". (http://www.biblestudy.org/bibleref/meaning-of-numbers-in-bible/13.html)

THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE WILL BE IN THE SPRING

I think we should be in Heaven by Mid-Trib, Aug. 24, 2016. I am hoping for Pentecost, Sunday, June 12, 2016. In Rev 1:9-11, John was caught up on the Lord's day, Sunday.

According to Song 2:10f, the Rapture will be at the time of firstripe grapes. That period will start June 1st.

According to Isa 18:3f, the Rapture will be in the spring. Aug 24 will be in the summer. Therefore, Pentecost fits perfectly, and Jesus came to indwell the Church on Pentecost in 30 AD.

At that time, Jesus was 33 years old.

My husband died in December, 2011. He was 87. On the following April 2, 2012, he came to see me in his celestial body. I asked him if he was 30 or 33. He said, "33".

I asked if we could be together forever. He said, "Yes."
I asked if there were female angels in heaven. He said, "Yes."
I asked if he had gotten together with his family. He said, "Yes."
I asked if he had gotten together with my family. He said, "Yes."
I asked if he had a piano. He said, "Yes" and walked through the wall.

I am hoping to be reunited with him next Pentecost. Agape

INCOMING EMAIL, RE: "ONLY GOD COULD MAKE THIS HAPPEN IN THE 70th JUBILEE YEAR 2016"

The very day of Nisan 10, 5776 the Day of Palms, and the appointed day of the rapture occurs on a seventh day Sabbath April 16, 2016 in the 70th Jubilee Year 2016. That fact has a HUGE meaning - read on :

Genesis 3:2-3
"And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had made; and He rested on the seventh day.....And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it; because that in it He had rested from all His work which God created."

Mark 2:27-28
"And He said unto them, The SABBATH WAS MADE FOR MAN, and not man for the Sabbath; Therefore the Son of Man is LORD ALSO OF THE SABBATH."

John 6:38-40
"For I came down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. And this is the Father's will which has sent Me, that of all which He hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at THE LAST DAY ( the seventh day ). And this is the will of Him that sent Me, that everyone which seeth the Son, and believe on Him, my have everlasting life; and I WILL RAISE HIM UP AT THE LAST DAY (the seventh day)."

Hebrews 4:1-3
"Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left of us ENTERING INTO HIS REST (the seventh day) , if any of you should seem to come short of it. For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them; but the Word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. For we which have believed DO ENTER INTO REST, as He said, As I have sworn in My wrath, IF THEY SHALL ENTER INTO MY REST (on the seventh day)..."

Hebrews 4:9-11
"There remains therefore A REST TO THE PEOPLE OF GOD; For he that IS ENTERED INTO HIS (God's) REST, he also has ceased from his own works (on earth), as God did from His. Let us labor therefore TO ENTER INTO THAT REST, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief."

Only God could make Nisan 10, 5776 , the Day of Palms, fall exactly on God's seventh day Sabbath April 16, 2016 That is "THE LAST DAY" , and the day on which His Church will "ENTER INTO HIS REST" when the "LORD OF THE SABBATH" comes that day to rapture His Church to heaven.

MY REPLY

> > The very day of Nisan 10, 5776 the Day of Palms, and the appointed day of the rapture occurs on a seventh day Sabbath April 16, 2016 in the 70th Jubilee Year 2016.

I went to http://www.biblicalcalendarproof.com/
for Don Roth's proof that the Hebrew Calendar of today is correct. The Sabbaths have been kept correctly ever since Adam was created. Don will send you 4 DVDs free. There is a Calendar Converter on his site so you can look up any day you want to. The Hebrew Calendar is correlated with the Gregorian from today back to Adam's day.

He proved that the SABBATHS have been kept correctly ever since Adam was created. He figured out the 385-day year of Noah's Flood, then worked backward and forward from there. He has the beginning Feast of Trumpets on Aug 30, 4046 BC.

The Hebrew Calendar Converter
(http://www.hebcal.com/converter/?gd=9&gm=4&gy=2016&g2h=1)
says, "10th of Nisan, 5776 = Mon, 18 April 2016"

Calendar Converter agrees.
(http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/calendar/)

Rosetta Calendar agrees.
(http://www.rosettacalendar.com/)

What Hebrew Calendar do you use? Agape

MY REPLY TO AN INCOMING EMAIL FROM RON REESE, TOO LONG TO REPRODUCE HERE, RE: TOP ELEVEN SIGNS, IN ORDER, FOR ELEVEN ELEVEN, OF 2015

> > I honestly believe that we have EVERY reason to believe that the Tribulation will commence on 11/11/15. The nuclear Sudden Destruction, and Rapture, will likely be on the very same day, or even before.

I think the Tribulation started 3-13-13, when this Pope was elected. He said, "God is not a divine being". Have you taken that into consideration?

I also think the First-Trump Rapture of I Th 4:16,17 is most likely to take place next Pentecost, Sivan 6, 5776, Sun. June 12, 2016.

"THE SECRET OF THE STAIRS"

Son 2:10-15 says, "My beloved spake, and said unto me, RISE UP, my love, my fair one, and COME AWAY (i.e., in the First-Trump Rapture). 11 For, lo, the winter is past, the rain (i.e., of Nisan) is over and gone; 12 The flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle (lit., turtledove) is heard in our land (i.e., they come on April and leave in October); 13 The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell. ARISE, MY LOVE, MY FAIR ONE, AND COME AWAY. 14 O my dove, that art in the clefts of the rock, in THE SECRET places (i.e., not in the original) OF THE STAIRS, let me see thy countenance, let me hear thy voice; for sweet is thy voice, and thy countenance is comely. 15 Take us the foxes, the little foxes, that spoil the vines: for our vines have TENDER GRAPES."

Isa 18:3-7 says, "All ye inhabitants of the world, and dwellers on the earth, see ye, when he lifteth up an ensign (i.e., the UN flag) on the mountains (i.e., kingdoms); and when he bloweth a trumpet (i.e., probably on a feast day), hear ye. 4 For so the LORD said unto me, I will take my rest (i.e., Sabbath), and I will consider in my dwelling place like a clear heat upon herbs, and like a cloud of dew IN THE HEAT OF HARVEST. 5 For afore the harvest, when the bud is perfect, and THE SOUR GRAPE IS RIPENING IN THE FLOWER (i.e., in late spring, PENTECOST), HE SHALL BOTH CUT OFF THE SPRIGS WITH PRUNING HOOKS, AND TAKE AWAY and cut down the branches. 6 They (i.e., the unfruitful branches) shall be left together unto the fowls of the mountains, and to the beasts of the earth: and the fowls shall SUMMER upon them, and all the beasts of the earth shall WINTER upon them. 7 In that time shall the present be brought unto the LORD of hosts of a people scattered and peeled, and from a people terrible from their beginning hitherto; a nation meted out and trodden under foot, whose land the rivers have spoiled, to the place of the name of the LORD of hosts, the mount Zion."

Mar_4:29 says, "WHEN THE FRUIT IS BROUGHT FORTH (i.e., IN LATE SPRING), IMMEDIATELY HE PUTTETH IN THE SICKLE, BECAUSE THE HARVEST IS COME."

Exo 34:21-24 says, " Six days thou shalt work, but on the seventh day (i.e., the SABBATH) thou shalt rest: in earing time and in harvest thou shalt rest. 22 And thou shalt observe THE FEAST OF WEEKS (i.e., Pentecost, a pilgrimage feast), of the firstfruits of wheat harvest, and the feast of ingathering at the year's end. 23 Thrice in the year shall all your men children appear before the Lord GOD, the God of Israel. 24 For I will cast out the nations before thee, and enlarge thy borders: neither shall any man desire thy land, when thou shalt go up to appear before the LORD thy God thrice in the year."

Exo 23:15,16 says, "Thou shalt keep the feast of unleavened bread: (thou shalt eat unleavened bread seven days, as I commanded thee, in the time appointed of the month Abib; for in it thou camest out from Egypt: and none shall appear before me empty:) 16 And the feast of harvest (i.e., Pentecost), the firstfruits of thy labours, which thou hast sown in the field: and the feast of ingathering (i.e., Tabernacles), which is in the end of the year, when thou hast gathered in thy labours out of the field."

Jer_5:24 says, "Neither say they in their heart, Let us now fear the LORD our God, that giveth rain, both the former and the latter, in his season (i.e., Tishri and Nisan): HE RESERVETH UNTO US THE APPOINTED WEEKS OF THE HARVEST."

Jas_5:7 says, "Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain."

The early rain comes in Tishri. The latter rain comes in Nisan.

11-11 is not "the appointed weeks of the harvest." Pentecost is the Feast of Weeks, the beginning of wheat harvest.

Mat_13:30 says, "Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn."

Mar_4:29 says, "But when the fruit is brought forth (i.e., in early June), immediately he putteth in the sickle, because THE HARVEST IS COME."

Rev_14:15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe."

"After the destruction of the Temple, the Pharisees became the predominant surviving faction among the Jewish leadership and their interpretation is followed by most Jews until this very day. In 359 CE, the Pharisee leader Hillel II established a pre-calculated calendar and ever since the Pharisee Shavuot has always been observed on the 6th of Sivan." (http://www.nehemiaswall.com/truth-shavuot)

1. Feast of Passover, Friday, Nisan 14, 3790, April 7, 30 AD, Jesus took the OT saints to heaven.
2. Feast of Pentecost, probably Sunday, June 12, 2016, Jesus will take the wise virgins to heaven. (Enoch means TEACHING, and, according to Jewish tradition, he was born and raptured on Sivan 6, Pentecost)
3. Feast of Trumpets, maybe Mon. Sept. 30, 2019 (1205 days later), Jesus will take the foolish virgins to heaven.

THOSE "THAT DWELL IN HEAVEN" ARE THERE JUST BEFORE THE FALSE PROPHET COMES TO POWER MID-TRIB (i.e., PROBABLY AUG. 24, 2016)

Rev 13:5-9 says, "And there was given unto him (i.e., Antichrist) a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months (i.e., the first half of the Tribulation). 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and THEM THAT DWELL IN HEAVEN (i.e., the wise virgin saints). 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints (i.e., the foolish virgins left behind), and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9 If any man have an ear, let him hear."

THE SATAN-POSSESSED FALSE PROPHET WILL COME TO POWER WHEN SATAN IS CAST OUT OF HEAVEN MID-TRIB

Rev 13:11 says, "And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon."

Rev 12:6-12 says, "And the woman (i.e., Israel) fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place (i.e., Petra) prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. 7 And there was war in heaven: MICHAEL and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, NOW (arti, just now) IS COME SALVATION (soteria, rescue, i.e., the Rapture), and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12 Therefore REJOICE, YE HEAVENS, AND YE THAT DWELL IN THEM. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time."

Dan 12:1 agrees. It says, "And at that time (i.e., MID-TRIB) shall MICHAEL stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble (i.e., the Great Tribulation), such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book."

The coming sudden destruction will be on the Day of the Lord, the Day of God's Wrath, at the end of the Great Tribulation, not at the beginning of the 7 year Tribulation. The seven-sealed book is not given to Christ until after the first Rapture, which is Mid-Trib.

1Th 5:2,3 says, "For yourselves know perfectly that the DAY OF THE LORD so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then SUDDEN DESTRUCTION cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape."

THE SIXTH SEAL IS THE DAY OF GOD'S WRATH AND THE DAY OF THE LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE

Rev 6:12 says, "And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood.

Rev 6:17 says, "For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?"

Rev 7:14 says, "These are they which came out of GREAT TRIBULATION, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb."

THE "COME UP HITHER" OF REV. 4:1 AND THE "RISE" OF REV. 11:1 DEPICT THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE OF I THESS. 4:16,17.

Why? Rev 10:11 says, "And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy AGAIN before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings."

Rev 4:1 says, "After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, COME UP HITHER, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter."

Rev 11:1-3 says, "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, RISE (i.e., in the First-Trump Rapture), and measure the temple of God (i.e., we are the temple of God), and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days (i.e., during the Great Tribulation), clothed in sackcloth."

1Co_3:16 says, "Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?"

THE "COME UP HITHER" OF REV. 11:12 IS THE LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE OF I COR 15:51-54

Rev 11:12,13 says, "And they (i.e., Moses and Elijah) heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, COME UP HITHER. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. 13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven." Agape

INCOMING EMAIL, RE: IN THE LAST PROPHECY OF JESUS CHRIST HE WAS SPEAKING OF THE SEALS

In the last prophecy of Jesus Christ , recorded in Luke 23:29, He was speaking of seals # 2,3,&4 . Then in His Last prophecy, recorded in Luke 23:30 , He was speaking of seal #6 . Seals # 2,3,&4 describe God's great tribulation of Israel BEFORE the rapture, and seal #6 describes the rapture "Immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days...." according to Matthew 24:29-31.

MY REPLY

> > IN THE LAST PROPHECY OF JESUS CHRIST HE WAS SPEAKING OF THE SEALS

> > In the last prophecy of Jesus Christ , recorded in Luke 23:29, He was speaking of seals # 2,3,&4 . Then in His Last prophecy, recorded in Luke 23:30 , He was speaking of seal #6 . Seals # 2,3,&4 describe God's great tribulation of Israel BEFORE the rapture, and seal #6 describes the rapture "Immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days...." according to Matthew 24:29-31.

Luk 23:29 says, "For, behold, the days are coming, in the which they shall say, Blessed are the barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the paps which never gave suck."

That does not tie in with "seals # 2,3&4".

The Rapture is in Rev. 4:1. The seven-sealed book is given to Christ in Rev. 5:7. It says, "And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne."

Rev 6:1-8 says, "And I saw when the Lamb opened ONE OF THE SEALS, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. 2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he (i.e., Antichrist) that sat on him had a bow (toxon, simple fabric, i.e., this is a man of the cloth, a religious leader); and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer. 3 And when he had opened the SECOND SEAL, I heard the second beast (i.e., the False Prophet) say, Come and see. 4 And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword. 5 And when he had opened the THIRD SEAL, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand. 6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine. 7 And when he had opened the FOURTH SEAL, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see. 8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth."

Rev 6:9-11 says, "And when he had opened the FIFTH SEAL, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? 11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled."

Rev 6:12-17 says, "And I beheld when he had opened the SIXTH SEAL, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. 14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?" Agape

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