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Posted 11-13-15

THE HEBREW 5775 WAS A SABBATICAL YEAR, THE 49TH YEAR; AND THE JUBILEE IS THE 50TH YEAR, 5776

The year 5775 divides evenly by 7. It was the seventh Sabbatical Year in the cycle. The Jubilee is the 50th year. Therefore, I think the Jubilee will start Nisan 1, 5776, Sat. April 9, 2016. The Jubilee Year would be a perfect time for the First-Trump Rapture. I am hoping for Pentecost, Sunday, June 12, 2016. Enoch was caught up on Sivan 6, which is now Pentecost.

In The Revelation of Jesus Christ, Jesus is given a seven-sealed scroll after the First-Trump Rapture. In early days, sealed scrolls were opened in the Jubilee Year, and the land returned to its original owner. Therefore, it looks like the Rapture will take place in the Jubilee Year starting Nisan 1, 5776.

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> > Do feel free to write to Rick of daniel11truth.com his email id is comment@daniel11truth.com he will be happy to see your article and explanation.

MY REPLY, RE: Time of the two Raptures

Hi Rick;

> > The Seals prove pre-tribulation because they explain our current position in Revelation and explain why the 'multitude from every nation' (gentiles) are in heaven between the 6th and 7th Seals. That's because the rapture is the 6th Seal. It's simple to understand if you see that the other Seals are in the past. And since the Trumpet plagues can't start until the Seals are over (Rev. 8:1-6), pre-tribulation is proven naturally because the rest of Revelation has to take place.

There are two Raptures. The first is in I Th 4:16,17. The last is in I Cor 15:51-54. They are not exactly the same.

AT THE FIRST TRUMP, THE WISE VIRGINS COMING OUT OF EARTH MID-TRIB WILL NOT DIE, BUT THEIR BODIES HAVE NOT YET ACTUALLY BECOME IMMORTAL

1Th 4:16,17 says, "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."

To the churches, Rev 3:10-13 says, "Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation (i.e., the temptation to take the Mark of the Beast to be able to buy and sell), which shall come upon all the world (i.e., during the Great Tribulation), to try them that dwell upon the earth. 11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown. 12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name. 13 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches."

Of the False Prophet who rules during the Great Tribulation, Rev 13:16-18 says, "And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."

VICARIUS FILII DEI (Vicar of the Son of God) = 666 in Roman numerals.

AT THE LAST TRUMP, THE BODIES OF ALL THE SAINTS OF BOTH RAPTURES ACTUALLY BECOME IMMORTAL IN THE TWINKLING OF AN EYE

1Co 15:51-54 says, "Behold, I shew you a mystery; We (i.e., ALL SAINTS OF BOTH RAPTURES, INCLUDING PAUL) shall not all sleep, but WE SHALL ALL BE CHANGED, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, AT THE LAST TRUMP: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption (i.e., at either Rapture), and this mortal shall have put on immortality (i.e., at the last Rapture), then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory."

From 1960 until lately, in spite of constant Bible study, I thought the first Rapture would be Pre-Trib. I read books out of BIOLA's Seminary Collection for 7 years. Teachers coming out of BIOLA and Dallas Theological Seminary convinced me that the Rapture would be Pre-Trib. Along the way, I attended the Rolling Hills Covenant Church when Chuck Swindall was pastor and the Calvary Church of Santa Ana when David Hocking was pastor. They taught the Pre-Trib Rapture.

WHAT CHANGED MY MIND LATELY WAS REV 1:9-11, 10:11, 11:1-3, AND 13:5-9

Now, I think the First-Trump Rapture of I Th 4:16,17 is about Mid-Trib, just before the first seal is broken in Rev 6:1, and the Last-Trump Rapture of I Cor 15:51-54 is after the sixth seal is broken on the Day of God's Wrath in Rev 6:12.

Rev 1:9-11 says, "I John, who also am your brother, and companion IN TRIBULATION, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos (i.e., meaning mortal), for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. 10 I was (lit., became) in the Spirit on the Lord's day (i.e., Sunday, maybe next Pentecost, Sunday, June 12, 2016), and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, 11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last".

Rev 10:11 says, "And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy AGAIN before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings."

Therefore, the "RISE" of Rev 11:1 is the same as the "COME UP HITHER" of Rev. 4:1. That is the First-Trump Rapture of I Th 4:16,17. The 42-month Great Tribulation follows the Mid-Trib Rapture, when there is NO EARTHQUAKE.

Rev 11:1-3 says, "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, RISE, and measure the temple of God (i.e., we are the temple of the Holy Spirit), and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months (i.e., during the Great Tribulation). 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses (i.e., Moses and Elijah), and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days (i.e., during the Great Tribulation), clothed in sackcloth."

Moses and Elijah will probably come at the time of the Mid-Trib Rapture, and be raptured at the end of the Great Tribulation, when there will be a great earthquake when Satan's asteroid Wormwood will impact Earth and destroy Babylon (Rev 8:11, 18:21).

John and the other elders are caught up in the Mid-Trib First-Trump Rapture of I Thess 4:16,17. Moses and Elijah are caught up in the Last-Trump Rapture of I Cor 15:51-54. It takes place at the end of the shortened Great Tribulation.

In Rev 4:1, John said, "After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, COME UP HITHER".

Rev 5:9,10 says, "And they (i.e., the saints just caught up) sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; 10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests".

There is no earthquake at the First-Trump Rapture, but there is "A GREAT EARTHQUAKE" at the Last-Trump Rapture.

Rev 11:12,13 says, "And they (i.e., Moses and Elijah) heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, COME UP HITHER. And they ASCENDED UP TO HEAVEN in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. 13 And the same hour was there A GREAT EARTHQUAKE, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven."

"IF ANY MAN HAVE AN EAR, LET HIM HEAR"

Rev 13:5-9 takes place in the first half of the Tribulation, when the Beast, the Antichrist is in power. The Satan-possessed False Prophet comes to power Mid-Trib, i.e., in Rev 13:11.

Rev 13:5-9 says, "And there was given unto him (i.e., the first Beast, the Antichrist) a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months (i.e., the first half of the Tribulation). 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and THEM THAT DWELL IN HEAVEN (i.e., the wise virgin saints that were just caught up). 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints (i.e., the foolish virgins left behind at the first Rapture), and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9 If any man have an ear, let him hear."

Rev 13:11 says, "And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon."

THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE TAKES PLACE MID-TRIB, WHEN SATAN IS CAST OUT OF HEAVEN

Rev 12:6-12 says, "And the woman (i.e, Israel) fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place (i.e., Petra) prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days (i.e., during the Great Tribulation). 7 And there was war in heaven: MICHAEL and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now (arti, just now) is come salvation (soteria, rescue, i.e., the First-Trump Rapture), and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time."

Dan 12:1 says, "And at that time (i.e., Mid-Trib) shall MICHAEL stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be (i.e., afterward) a time of trouble (i.e., the Great Tribulation), such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book."

BLASPHEMY

This Pope said that God was not divine. Therefore, I think the Tribulation started when he was chosen 3/13/13.

"The number 13 is symbolic of rebellion and lawlessness. Nimrod, the mighty hunter who was 'before the Lord' (meaning he tried to take the place of God - Genesis 10:9), was the 13th in Ham's line".
(http://www.biblestudy.org/bibleref/meaning-of-numbers-in-bible/13.html)

THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE WILL BE IN THE SPRING

I think we should be in Heaven by Mid-Trib, Aug. 24, 2016. I am hoping for Pentecost, Sunday, June 12, 2016. In Rev 1:9-11, John was caught up on the Lord's day, Sunday.

According to Song 2:10f, the Rapture will be at the time of firstripe grapes. That period will start June 1st.

According to Isa 18:3f, the Rapture will be in the spring. Aug 24 will be in the summer. Therefore, Pentecost fits perfectly, and Jesus came to indwell the Church on Pentecost in 30 AD.

At that time, Jesus was 33 years old.

My husband died in December, 2011. He was 87. On the following April 2, 2012, he came to see me in his celestial body. I asked him if he was 30 or 33. He said, "33".

I asked if we could be together forever. He said, "Yes."
I asked if there were female angels in heaven. He said, "Yes."
I asked if he had gotten together with his family. He said, "Yes."
I asked if he had gotten together with my family. He said, "Yes."
I asked if he had a piano. He said, "Yes" and walked through the wall.

I am hoping to be reunited with him next Pentecost. Agape

HIS REPLY, RE: Time of the two Raptures

With all due respect, if you don't understand the Seals correctly, you won't understand Revelation correctly.

http://daniel11truth.com/the-seals-explain-pre-tribulation-rapture.htm

There is only one true rapture (Matthew 24:29-31), which is the same as the 6th Seal. The 144,000 Jews are slaughtered mid-way through the 2300 days, between the trumpet and bowl plagues, but I wouldn't necessarily call that a rapture (since they are martyred), although they do get to heaven (the hard way). You can call it a rapture but it's only for the 144,000 Jews, who become priests in the 1000-years.

MY REPLY

http://daniel11truth.com/the-seals-explain-pre-tribulation-rapture.htm

> > A 'quick' explanation of "rapture and tribulation" in the Bible: When people think of the word 'tribulation', they probably think of God's wrath in Revelation but the Seals are not part of that because they are the "great tribulation", which is entirely different....we are currently living in the "great tribulation", which will continue until the 6th Seal (rapture) takes place."
If we were in the Great Tribulation, the False Prophet would be in power, and we would be given the choice of taking or refusing the Mark of the Beast.

(All scriptures are KJV unless marked different.)

Rev 13:16,17 says, "And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name."

THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE TAKES PLACE BEFORE JESUS IS GIVEN THE SEVEN-SEALED BOOK

Rev 4:1 says, "After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, COME UP HITHER".

Rev 5:7-10 says, "And he (i.e., Jesus, the Lamb of God) came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne. 8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints. 9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and HAST REDEEMED US TO GOD BY THY BLOOD OUT OF EVERY KINDRED, AND TONGUE, AND PEOPLE, AND NATION; 10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth."

Rev 6:1,2 says, "And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. 2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow (toxon, plain fabric, i.e., the False Prophet is a man of the cloth); and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer."

Mat_7:15 says, "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing (i.e., the Pope wears a lamb's wool pallium as a badge of office), but inwardly they are ravening wolves."

"Pope Francis, the shepherd of God's flock, had a real lamb draped over his neck when he visited a nativity scene". (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2535647/Lamb-God-meet-man-God-Pope-Francis-real-lamb-draped-neck-visit.html)

TO ME, WE ARE NOW LIVING IN HE FIRST HALF OF THE TRIBULATION

The First-Trump Rapture of I Th 4:16,17 has not yet taken place. It will take place just before Mid-Trib (see Rev 13:5-11). The False Prophet will come to power Mid-Trib.

Rev 12:6-10 says, "And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place (i.e., Petra) prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days (i.e., during the Great Tribulation). 7 And there was war in heaven: MICHAEL and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now (arti, just now, this day) is come salvation (soteria, rescue, i.e., the Rapture), and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night."

Dan 12:1 says, "And at that time shall MICHAEL stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book."

ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURE, THOSE THAT DWELL IN HEAVEN ARE THERE JUST BEFORE THE FALSE PROPHET COMES TO POWER

Rev 13:5-11 says, "And there was given unto him (i.e., the first beast, Antichrist) a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months (i.e., until Mid-Trib). 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and THEM THAT DWELL IN HEAVEN (i.e., the First-Trump Rapture of the wise virgins takes place about Mid-Trib). 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints (i.e., the foolish virgins left behind at the first Rapture), and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9 If any man have an ear, let him hear. 10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints. 11 And I beheld ANOTHER BEAST (i.e., the Satan-possessed False Prophet) coming up out of the earth (i.e., Mid-Trib); and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon."

THE "DEPARTURE" (i.e., THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE) COMES BEFORE THE FALSE PROPHET IS REVEALED

2 Th 2:1-4 (HNV) says, "Now, brothers, concerning the coming of our Lord Yeshua the Messiah, and our gathering together to him (i.e., in the First-Trump Rapture of I Th 4:16,17), we ask you not to be quickly shaken in your mind, nor yet be troubled, either by spirit, or by word, or by letter as from us, saying that the day of Messiah (i.e., Day of the Lord) had come. Let no one deceive you in any way. For it will not be, unless the DEPARTURE (i.e., the Rapture of I Thess 4:16,17) comes FIRST, and the man of sin (i.e., the False Prophet) is revealed, the son of destruction, he who opposes and exalts himself against all that is called God or that is worshiped; so that he sits as God in the temple of God, setting himself up as God."

2 Th 2:6-8 (HNV) says, "Now you know what (i.e., the Holy Spirit) is restraining him, to the end that he may be revealed in his own season (i.e., the Great Tribulation). For the mystery of lawlessness already works. Only there is one (i.e., the Holy Spirit) who restrains now, until he is taken out of the way (i.e., just before Mid-Trib). Then (i.e., at Mid-Trib) the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will kill with the breath of his mouth, and bring to nothing by the brightness of his coming".

THE NEW SONG

In Rev 5:9, all the saints caught up in the First-Trump Rapture sing "a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; 10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth."

No one but the 144,000 Israelites can sing the "new song" at the time of the Last-Trump Rapture of I Cor 15:51-54.

Rev 14:1-3 says, "And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads. 2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: 3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth."

> > There is only one true rapture (Matthew 24:29-31), which is the same as the 6th Seal.

There are two Raptures, one for the wise virgins, the other for the foolish virgins that are left behind the first time.

> > There is only one true rapture (Matthew 24:29-31), which is the same as the 6th Seal. The 144,000 Jews are slaughtered mid-way through the 2300 days, between the trumpet and bowl plagues, but I wouldn't necessarily call that a rapture (since they are martyred), although they do get to heaven (the hard way). You can call it a rapture but it's only for the 144,000 Jews, who become priests in the 1000-years."

The second Rapture is not only for the 144,000 Jews.

Rev 7:9 says, "After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands". Agape

INCOMING EMAIL, RE: THE PROPHECIES OF 'DANIEL CHAPTER 12' ARE REVEALED TO US IN 'REVELATION CHAPTER 12'

The prophecies of Daniel Chapter 12 are revealed to us , in detail, in Revelation Chapter 12. They both should be read and studied together for a full and complete understanding of both.

The 'three and one-half year period of time' spoken of in Daniel 12:7 is the exact same 'three and one-half year period of time' spoken of in Revelation 12:6 and Rev 12:14 and Rev 13:5.

Daniel 12:10 "none of the wicked shall understand, but the wise shall understand."

MY REPLY

> > The 'three and one-half year period of time' spoken of in Daniel 12:7 is the exact same 'three and one-half year period of time' spoken of in Revelation 12:6 and Rev 12:14 and Rev 13:5.

THEY ARE NOT ALL TALKING ABOUT THE SAME 3.5 YEAR PERIOD

Dan 12:6,7 is talking about the last 3.5 years, the Great Tribulation. It says, "And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders? 7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half (i.e., the last 3.5 years of the Tribulation, the Great Tribulation); and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be FINISHED."

Rev 12:6-14 is also talking about the Great Tribulation. It says, "And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days (i.e., during the Great Tribulation). 7 And there was war in heaven (i.e., Mid-Trib): MICHAEL and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, NOW (arti, just now) IS COME SALVATION (soteria, rescue, deliverance, i.e., the Mid-Trib Rapture), and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12 Therefore REJOICE, YE HEAVENS, AND YE THAT DWELL IN THEM (i.e., the First-Trump Rapture just took place). Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time (i.e., the shortened Great Tribulation). 13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child. 14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place (i.e., Petra), where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time (i.e., during the Great Tribulation), from the face of the serpent."

REV 13:5,6 IS TALKING ABOUT THE FIRST HALF OF THE TRIBULATION

It says, "And there was given unto him (i.e., the first beast, the Antichrist) a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven (i.e., the First-Trump Rapture just took place)."

THE SATAN-POSSESSED FALSE PROPHET COMES TO POWER MID-TRIB IN REV. 13:11

It says, "And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon." Agape

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