Pro and Con 1896

Posted 12-9-15

PRAYER REQUEST

Please join with me in prayer that a boy I know that is in prison will accept Christ. Lord, please give my grandson the right words to say to him. In Jesus' name, Amen.

INCOMING EMAIL, RE: Upcoming Rapture

Greetings to you from our Lord and Savior Jesus the Christ.

I found your website through a convoluted journey that started from a strange e-mail I received that appeared to be a scam e-mail. I rarely look for or read other people's prophecy websites for various reasons.

However, I did skim yours for just a few minutes and can see you do have some understanding of the last days where others who claim to be experts know very little. I see you have made predictions in the past when the rapture will occur that did not happen. I also see you are now hoping (expecting) the rapture occurs on Pentecost, Sunday, June 12, 2016. You do realize, that by believing in a mid-tribulation rapture (which is true by the way), this would mean Christ will return 42 months later in January 2019? Now I do not support the idea of two raptures, as most do not, but I can agree it will occur just after the sixth seal is opened. Besides, if you are correct (since there are only about 6 months to this date), then the first five seals have already been opened... correct?

The first seal being opened 3 years ago based on a seven-year tribulation (as many support) along with your idea of a mid-tribulation rapture occurring in the near future. I hope I have captured your logic thus far accurately.

Having written all that background information, shouldn't a reasonable person expect that since the 4th seal has already been opened, that the killing of 25% of the world population would be well underway? And yet we see no evidence of this easily identifiable sign. Would you not expect that the covenant that the Antichrist will make 7 years before the return of Christ (Daniel 9) should have already been made in 2013 so that some knowledgeable Christian would be able to point this out? Why do you think God's plan is for Christ to return in January 2019 or that he left you and I and every Christian I know out of the first rapture? Surely there must be someone we know that was deemed worthy if there are two raptures and one has already occurred?

I do not ask these questions as a means to do anything more than have you reflect about the ramifications of what you wrote on your website and your thoughts that the rapture will occur next June. Would it not be better to actually know when the rapture will occur then to hope and keeping guessing when the time will be? Just asking. I can see the Lord has given you the ability to understand some of the complexities of prophecy, it just that you are just not seeing the whole picture. If you could see that, then everything would become clear.

May the Light of the World use you in these last days as a beacon to those who do not know the saving grace of Jesus.

MY REPLY

> > I do not support the idea of two raptures, as most do not, but I can agree it will occur just after the sixth seal is opened. Besides, if you are correct (since there are only about 6 months to this date), then the first five seals have already been opened... correct?

No. Jesus is not given the seven-sealed book until after the first Rapture.

Rev 4:1 says, "After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, COME UP HITHER, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter."

Rev 5:7-10 says, "And he (i.e., the lamb, Jesus) came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne. 8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints. 9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; 10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on (epi, on or over) the earth."

Our home will be in New Jerusalem, which will come down and orbit the Earth like the Moon.

The False Prophet is revealed Mid-Trib (i.e., probably Aug. 24, 2016), soon after First-Trump Rapture takes place (i.e., probably on Pentecost, June 12, 2016).

Rev 13:5-11 says, "And there was given unto him (i.e., Antichrist) a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months (i.e., the first half of the Tribulation). 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and THEM THAT DWELL IN HEAVEN. 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints (i.e., the Laodicean foolish virgins left behind the first time), and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9 If any man have an ear, let him hear. 10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints. 11 And I beheld ANOTHER BEAST (i.e., the Satan-possessed False Prophet) coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon."

Jer_12:12 says, "the sword of the LORD shall devour from the one end of the land even to the other end of the land: no flesh shall have peace."

The first seal is opened Mid-Trib.

Rev 6:1,2 says, "And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. 2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he (i.e., the False Prophet) that sat on him had a bow (toxon, plain fabric, i.e., this is a man of the cloth, a religious leader); and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer."

There is the First-Trump Rapture of the wise virgins (I Th 4:16,17) Mid-Trib and the Last-Trump Rapture of the foolish virgins (I Co 15:51-54) at the end of the Great Tribulation. There is no change to immortal bodies until the last Rapture. Then all saint's bodies actually become immortal at the last Rapture.

THERE ARE TWO TRUMPS, ONE BEFORE JESUS IS GIVEN THE SEVEN-SEALED BOOK, THE OTHER AFTER THE SIXTH SEAL IS BROKEN

Num 10:1-4 says, "And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 2 Make thee two trumpets of silver; of a whole piece shalt thou make them: that thou mayest USE THEM FOR THE CALLING OF THE ASSEMBLY, AND FOR THE JOURNEYING OF THE CAMPS (i.e., plural). 3 And when they shall blow with them, all the assembly shall assemble themselves to thee at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation. 4 And if they blow but with one trumpet, then the princes (i.e., elders), which are heads of the thousands of Israel, shall gather themselves unto thee."

Rev 4:4 says, "And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty ELDERS sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold."

AT THE CALLING OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, THE SAINTS CALLED UP FIRST ARE ALREADY IN HEAVEN

Heb 12:22-26 says, "But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, 23 To the general assembly and CHURCH OF THE FIRSTBORN, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, 24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel. 25 See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven: 26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven."

THOSE RAPTURED AT THE FIRST TRUMP ARE RAISED INCORRUPTIBLE

1Th 4:16,17 says, "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."

THOSE RAPTURED AT THE LAST TRUMP ARE RAISED INCORRUPTIBLE, THEN ALL SAINTS ACTUALLY BECOME IMMORTAL

1Co 15:51-54 says, "Behold, I shew you a mystery; We (i.e., including Paul) shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 FOR THIS CORRUPTIBLE MUST PUT ON INCORRUPTION, AND THIS MORTAL MUST PUT ON IMMORTALITY. 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption (i.e., at either Rapture), and this mortal shall have put on immortality (i.e., at the last Rapture), then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory."

THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE IS MID-TRIB

Rev 10:11 says, "And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy AGAIN before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings."

Therefore, the "RISE" in Rev. 11:1 is the Mid-Trib Rapture, and the "COME UP HITHER" of Rev. 11:12 is the Rapture at the end of the Great Tribulation.

MOSES AND ELIJAH PROPHESY DURING THE GREAT TRIBULATION AND ARE RAPTURED AT ITS END

Rev 11:1-3 says, "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, RISE, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months (i.e., during the Great Tribulation). 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth."

THERE IS NO EARTHQUAKE AT THE FIRST RAPTURE, BUT THERE IS A GREAT EARTHQUAKE AT THE LAST RAPTURE

Rev 11:12-15 says, "And they (i.e., Moses and Elijah) heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, COME UP HITHER. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. 13 And the same hour was there a GREAT EARTHQUAKE, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven. 14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly. 15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, THE KINGDOMS OF THIS WORLD ARE BECOME THE KINGDOMS OF OUR LORD, AND OF HIS CHRIST; AND HE SHALL REIGN FOR EVER AND EVER."

THE MOUNT OF OLIVES WILL SPLIT ON THE DAY OF THE LORD, THE DAY OF GOD'S WRATH, THE DAY OF THE LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE

Zec 14:1-4 says, "Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. 2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. 3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle (i.e., on Joshua's Long Day). 4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south."

THIS WILL BE JESUS' LONG DAY

Isa_24:1 says, "Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof."

Rev 8:8-13 says, "And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; 9 And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed. 10 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star (aster) from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; 11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter. 12 And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise. 13 And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!"

> > Surely there must be someone we know that was deemed worthy if there are two raptures and one has already occurred?

Neither Rapture has taken place.

> > May the Light of the World use you in these last days as a beacon to those who do not know the saving grace of Jesus.

You too.

One time long ago, I was tired after typing on my husband's old portable typewriter all day, and flopped down across the bed in a darkened room. I had my closed Bible in my hand, and it flipped open. There was a rectangle of light on Jer 50:2. I read it over and over.

It says, "Declare ye among the nations, and publish, and set up a standard; publish, and conceal not: say, Babylon is taken, Bel is confounded, Merodach is broken in pieces; her idols are confounded, her images are broken in pieces."

Since it said, "conceal not", I published the dates I hoped the Rapture would take place. So far, no one has been right, but some day, they will be right. At the present time, I think the raptures will be on Pentecost and Tabernacles.

I started with Pentecost, and am more and more inclined to think the First-Trump Rapture is on Pentecost. Song of Solomon 2:10-16 says "the rain is over and gone" and "our vines have tender grapes". That means that Nisan is over and gone and June has arrived. Next Pentecost is Sivan 6, 5776, Sunday, June 12, 2016. It is in the Jubilee Year.

The wave offering at Pentecost is two loaves. That could indicate that there are two fulfillments of Pentecost.

Pentecost is the beginning of grape harvest. Tabernacles is the end of grape harvest.

Joh_7:37 says, "In the last day, that great day of the feast (i.e., of Tabernacles, the feast of INGATHERING, Ex 23:16), Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink."

The wise virgins will escape just before the False Prophet comes to power Mid-Trib.

Rev 13:1-6 says, "And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads (i.e., Babel, Babylon II, Medo-Persia, Greece, Holy Roman Empire, Ecclesiastical Holy Roman Empire, and Babylon III) and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy (i.e., Pontifex Maximus, started by Nimrod). 2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard (i.e., Greece), and his feet were as the feet of a bear (i.e., Medo-Persia), and his mouth as the mouth of a lion (Babylon): and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. 3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. 4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? 5 And there was given unto him (i.e., Antichrist) a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months (i.e., the first half of the Tribulation). 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven."

The False Prophet comes to power Mid-Trib.

Rev 13:11,12 says, "And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. 12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed." Agape

TWO RAPTURES, PENTECOST AND TABERNACLES,
PILGRIMAGE FESTIVALS

By Marilyn Agee

The first 3 feasts end with Pentecost (i.e., the First-Trump Rapture).
The last 3 feasts end with Tabernacles (i.e., the Last-Trump Rapture).

Exo_23:16 says, "And the feast of harvest (i.e., Pentecost), the firstfruits of thy labours, which thou hast sown in the field: and THE FEAST OF INGATHERING (i.e., Tabernacles), which is in the end of the year, when thou hast gathered in thy labours out of the field."

Exo_34:22 says, "And thou shalt observe the feast of weeks (i.e., Pentecost), of the firstfruits of wheat harvest, and THE FEAST OF INGATHERING (i.e., Tabernacles) at the year's end."

Deu 16:16 says, "Three times in a year shall all thy males appear before the LORD thy God in the place which he shall choose; in the feast of unleavened bread, and IN THE FEAST OF WEEKS, AND IN THE FEAST OF TABERNACLES: and they shall not appear before the LORD empty".

Isa 27:12,13 says, "And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall beat off from the channel of the river unto the stream of Egypt, and YE SHALL BE GATHERED ONE BY ONE, O ye children of Israel. 13 And it shall come to pass in that day, that THE GREAT TRUMPET SHALL BE BLOWN, and they shall come which were ready to perish in the land of Assyria, and the outcasts in the land of Egypt, and shall worship the LORD in the holy mount at Jerusalem."

Joh 4:35: "Say not ye, There are yet four months (i.e., Tamuz, Av, Elul and Tishri), and THEN COMETH HARVEST? behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields; for they are white already to harvest" (i.e., on Pentecost in Sivan).

Joh 7:37 says, "In the last day, that great day of the feast (i.e., Tabernacles), Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, LET HIM COME UNTO ME, and drink."

AT THE END OF THE FIRST DAY OF TABERNACLES, THE TEMPLE WAS GLORIOUSLY ILLUMINATED

"According to the Mishnah (part of the oral tradition of the rabbis), gigantic candelabras stood within the court of the women. Each of the four golden candelabras is said to have been 50 cubits high. A cubit is somewhere between 18 and 22 inches, so we're talking about candelabras that were about 75 feet tall! Each candelabra had four branches, and at the top of every branch there was a large bowl. Four young men bearing 10 gallon pitchers of oil would climb ladders to fill the four golden bowls on each candelabra. And then the oil in those bowls was ignited."
(http://www1.cbn.com/biblestudy/finding-jesus-in-the-feast-of-tabernacles)

Solomon's Temple was dedicated to the Lord on Tabernacles (I Ki 8:2).

WHY DID ALL MALES HAVE TO GO UP TO JERUSALEM ON PENTECOST AND TABERNACLES?

Was it because the two Raptures will take the saints up to New Jerusalem on Pentecost (Mid-Trib) and Tabernacles (at the end of the Great Tribulation)?

THE TRANSFIGURATION SUGGESTS A RAPTURE ON TABERNACLES

Luk 9:28-34 says, "And it came to pass about an eight days after these sayings, he took Peter and John and James, and went up into a mountain to pray. 29 And as he prayed, the fashion of his countenance was altered, and his raiment was white and glistering. 30 And, behold, there talked with him two men, which were Moses and Elias: 31 Who appeared in glory, and spake of his decease which he should accomplish at Jerusalem. 32 But Peter and they that were with him were heavy with sleep: and when they were awake, they saw his glory, and the two men that stood with him. 33 And it came to pass, as they departed from him, Peter said unto Jesus, Master, it is good for us to be here: and let us make three TABERNACLES; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias: not knowing what he said. 34 While he thus spake, there came a cloud, and overshadowed them: and they feared as they entered into the cloud."

TWO TRUMPETS, FOR "THE CALLING OF THE ASSEMBLY", AND FOR "THE JOURNEYING OF THE CAMPS"

Num 10:1-4 says, "And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 2 Make thee two trumpets of silver; of a whole piece shalt thou make them: that thou mayest USE THEM FOR THE CALLING (miqra, rehearsal) OF THE ASSEMBLY, AND FOR THE JOURNEYING (massa, departure) OF THE CAMPS. 3 And when they shall blow with them, all the assembly shall assemble themselves to thee at the DOOR of the tabernacle of the congregation. 4 And if they blow but with one trumpet, then the princes (i.e., ELDERS), which are heads of the thousands of Israel, shall gather themselves unto thee."

Num 10:8 says, "And the sons of Aaron, the priests, shall blow with the trumpets; and they shall be to you for an ordinance for ever throughout your generations."

SOLOMON'S TEMPLE WAS DEDICATED ON TABERNACLES

The Church was started on Pentecost. Maybe it will be completed on Tabernacles. Could that have something to do with Tabernacles being kept during the Millennium?

THE ELDERS ARE GATHERED AT THE FIRST TRUMP

Rev 4:1-4 says, "After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, COME UP HITHER, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter. 2 And immediately I was (lit., became) in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one (i.e., Jesus, the first and the last) sat on the throne. 3 And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper (i.e., last stone in the breastplate) and a sardine stone (i.e., first stone in the breastplate): and there was a rainbow (i.e., Saturn's ring system) round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald (i.e., stone of Judah, and Jesus is the Lion of the tribe of Judah). 4 And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty ELDERS sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold."

THE FIRST TRUMP, PENTECOST

1Th 4:13-18 says, "But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and WITH THE TRUMP OF GOD: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words."

THE LAST TRUMP, TABERNACLES

1Co 15:51-54 says, "Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, AT THE LAST TRUMP: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory."

WHEN THE SAINTS ARE CALLED TO THE ASSEMBLY THE SECOND TIME, THE CHURCH OF THE FIRSTBORN ARE ALREADY THERE

Heb 12:22-26 says, "But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, 23 TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY AND CHURCH OF THE FIRSTBORN, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and TO THE SPIRITS OF JUST MEN MADE PERFECT, 24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel. 25 See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven: 26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven."

Num 29:12 says, "And on the fifteenth day of the seventh month ye shall have an holy convocation (miqra, rehearsal); ye shall do no servile work, and ye shall keep a feast unto the LORD seven days".

Num_29:35 says, "On the eighth day (i.e., of Tabernacles) ye shall have a solemn ASSEMBLY".

Zec 14:16 says, "And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles."

AT TABERNACLES, THE DAY OF THE LORD IS AT HAND

Joe 1:14,15 says, "Sanctify ye a fast (i.e., on the Day of Atonement), CALL A SOLEMN ASSEMBLY (i.e., on Tabernacles), GATHER THE ELDERS AND ALL THE INHABITANTS OF THE LAND into the house of the LORD your God, and cry unto the LORD, 15 Alas for the day! for THE DAY OF THE LORD IS AT HAND, and as a destruction from the Almighty shall it come."

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