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Posted 4-10-16

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MAYBE WE CAN KNOW THE DAY OF THE RAPTURE, BUT NOT THE HOUR

Mat 24:37-42 says,"But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come."

DOES THIS MEAN THAT WE CAN KNOW THE DAY?

Gen 7:11,12 says, "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. 12 And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights."

Gen 7:17 says, "And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth."

Noah went into the Ark, and the Lord shut the door on Iyar 17. Then some time within the next 40 days of rain, the Ark floated. The 40 days ended on Sivan 28. Pentecost comes within that time. It comes on Sivan 6, 18 days after it began to rain. Sivan 6 will be June 12 in 2016.

IS PENTECOST THE TIME OF THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE?

By Marilyn Agee

At Mt. Sinai, God came down and gave the ten commandments to Israel on Pentecost. At Mt. Zion, he came down and gave the Holy Spirit to believers on Pentecost. Since both mounts represent Heaven, it seems likely that the First-Trump Rapture of ITh 4:16,17 will take place on Pentecost.

According to Ed Vallowe, 50 means Holy Spirit. That ties in nicely with Pentecost, when the Holy Spirit came to indwell believers.

The Greek pentekoste means fiftieth. Fifty not only suggests the Feast of Pentecost, it suggests the Jubilee Year, and this year, 5776, is the Jubilee.

Pentecost, the harvest feast, was well marked. The Ten Commandments were given on Pentecost as part of the Lord's marriage covenant with Israel. That reminds me of the 5 wise virgins who will be the Bride of Christ.

It is amazing that June is the favorite month for weddings. The Bride of Christ may be raptured on Pentecost, the 50th Omer in the 50th year, 5776, Sunday, June 12, 2016. The Jubilee Year follows the Sabbatical Year, 5775, which divides by 7 equally.

The omer (Hebrew: omer?) is an ancient Israelite unit of dry measure used in the era of the Temple in Jerusalem. It means a heap, or sheaf. It is used in the Bible as an ancient unit of volume for grains and dry commodities, and the Torah mentions it as being equal to one tenth of an ephah.

An ephah represents the church being lifted up in Zech 5.

Zech 5:9-11 says, "Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came out two women (i.e., church groups), and the wind was in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork: and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heaven. 10 Then said I to the angel that talked with me, Whither do these bear the ephah? 11 And he said unto me, To build it an house in the land of Shinar: and it shall be established, and set there upon her own base."

Shinar is where the Tower of Babel was built, at Babylon.

Gen 11:2-4 says, "And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there. 3 And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them throughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter. 4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven".

Lev 25:10-13 says, "And ye shall hallow the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty (deror, to move rapidly) throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof: it shall be a jubile (Heb. yobel, the blast of a horn, i.e., the First-Trump Rapture?) unto you; and ye shall return (shub, TAKE) every man unto his possession, and ye shall return (shub, TAKE) every man unto his family. A jubile shall that fiftieth year be unto you: ye shall not sow, neither reap that which groweth of itself in it, nor gather the grapes in it of thy vine undressed. (i.e., according to Song 2:10:f, the Rapture is the time of firstripe grapes) 12 For it is the jubile; it shall be holy unto you: ye shall eat the increase thereof out of the field. 13 In the year of this jubile ye shall return (shub, take) every man unto his possession (achuzzah, possession, especially of land)."

"BRING OUT OF YOUR HABITATIONS TWO WAVE LOAVES" SUGGESTS A RAPTURE OF THE FIRSTFRUITS UNTO THE LORD ON PENTECOST

Lev 23:15-17 says, "And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete: 16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD. 17 Ye shall BRING OUT OF YOUR HABITATIONS TWO WAVE LOAVES of two tenth deals: they shall be of fine flour; they shall be baken with leaven; they are the FIRSTFRUITS unto the LORD."

"The Many Parallels of Sinai and Pentecost" http://acts242study.com/they-many-parallels-of-sinai-and-pentecost/

"The Israelites left Egypt on Passover and 40 days later arrived at Sinai. Then Moses went up on a mountain to see God (Mt. Sinai). Ten days later Moses came down with the Torah and the Israelites broke the covenant and 3000 people died as a result. Jesus died on Passover and 40 days later went up on a mountain to see God (Mt. Of Olives). Ten days after Jesus ascended, the Holy Spirit came down and 3000 people were saved!"

Actually, Jesus died on the Preparation of the Passover, Thursday, Nisan 13, 3790, April 6, 30 AD.

Joh_19:14 says, "And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!"

MT. SINAI SEEMS TO BE A PICTURE OF A PENTECOST RAPTURE

Pentecost, also called the Feast of Weeks, is the feast of harvest. We are wheat, and Pentecost is the beginning of the wheat harvest.

Luk_22:31 says, "And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat".

Mat_13:30 says, "Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn."

"Tares...the bearded darnel, mentioned only in Matthew 13:25-30 . It is the Lolium temulentum, a species of rye-grass, the seeds of which are a strong soporific poison. It bears the closest resemblance to wheat till the ear appears, and only then the difference is discovered. It grows plentifully in Syria and Palestine."
(http://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionary/tares/)

Exo_34:22 says, "And thou shalt observe the feast of weeks, of the firstfruits of wheat harvest".

Rth_2:23 says, "So she (i.e., Ruth, type of the bride of Christ) kept fast by the maidens of Boaz to glean unto the end of barley harvest and of WHEAT HARVEST".

Deu 4:30,31 says, "When thou art IN TRIBULATION, and all these things are come upon thee, even in the latter days, if thou turn to the LORD thy God, and shalt be obedient unto his voice; 31 (For the LORD thy God is a merciful God;) he will not forsake thee, neither destroy thee, nor forget the covenant of thy fathers which he sware unto them."

Mt. Sinai was the shadow, and they heard the voice of God. I believe Pentecost will be the reality, and we will hear the voice of God saying, "Come up hither".

THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE

Rev_4:1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, COME UP HITHER, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter."

THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE IS MID-TRIB JUST BEFORE THE FALSE PROPHET COMES TO POWER

Rev 13:5-11 says, "And there was given unto him (i.e., Antichrist) a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months (i.e., until Mid-Trib). 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and THEM THAT DWELL IN HEAVEN. 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints (i.e., those left behind at the First-Trump Rapture), and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9 If any man have an ear, let him hear. 10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints. 11 And I beheld another beast (i.e., the False Prophet) coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon."

Rev 11:1-3 says, "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, RISE, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days (i.e., during the Great Tribulation), clothed in sackcloth."

Rev 12:6-12 says, "And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. 7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now (arti, just now, this day) is come salvation (soteria, rescue, deliverance, i.e., the First-Trump Rapture), and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time."

Dan 12:1 says, "And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble (i.e., the Great Tribulation), such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time (i.e., Mid-Trib) thy people shall be delivered (malat, escape, leap out), every one that shall be found written in the book."

Heb 12:18-24 says, "ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched (i.e., Mt. Sinai), and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest, 19 And the sound of a trumpet, and the voice of words; which voice they that heard intreated that the word should not be spoken to them any more: 20 (For they could not endure that which was commanded, And if so much as a beast touch the mountain, it shall be stoned, or thrust through with a dart: 21 And so terrible was the sight, that Moses said, I exceedingly fear and quake:) 22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, 23 To the general assembly and church of the FIRSTBORN, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, 24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel."

Lev 23:15-17 says, "And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete: 16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD. 17 YE SHALL BRING OUT OF YOUR HABITATIONS two wave loaves of two tenth deals: they shall be of fine flour; they shall be baken with leaven; they are the firstfruits unto the LORD."

CHRIST IS THE FIRSTFRUIT, AND HE HAS "BECOME THE FIRSTFRUITS OF THEM THAT SLEPT"

Rom_11:16 says, "For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches."

1Co_15:20 says, "But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept."

WE ARE "A KIND OF FIRSTFRUITS"

Jas_1:18 says, "Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures."

1Co_15:23 says, "But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming."

THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE

1Th 4:16,17 says, "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."

Rev 11:1-33 says, "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, RISE, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth."

THE LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE AT THE TIME OF THE SECOND ADVENT AT THE END OF THE GREAT TRIBULATION IS ALSO THE TIME OF A GREAT EARTHQUAKE

1Co 15:51-54 says, "Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory."

Rev_11:12,13 says, "And they (i.e., Moses and Elijah) heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, COME UP HITHER. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. 13 And the same hour was there a great EARTHQUAKE, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven."

IYAR 17, THE DAY IT STARTED TO RAIN IN NOAH'S DAY, WAS ON THE SABBATH ACCORDING TO DON ROTH'S "SOLAR CALENDAR PROVES BIBLICAL SABBATHS"

Don said, "...the seven-day solar calendar, the HCC and the Gregorian calendar perfectly agree on which day of the week is the seventh."

The Sabbaths on his chart are listed as Iyar 3, 10, 17 and 24 in 2386 BC, 1661 AM.

The Hebrew Date Converter lists Sivan 5, 5776 as Sat, 11 June 2016. Pentecost will start at 6 PM. I am hoping for the First-Trump Rapture on this Pentecost in this Jubilee Year, 5776.

PENTECOST, WHICH MEANS FIFTY, IS THE ONLY TIME THE WAVE OFFERINGS ARE BAKED "WITH LEAVEN"

Lev 23:15-17 says, "And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete: 16 Even unto THE MORROW AFTER THE SEVENTH SABBATH shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD. 17 Ye shall BRING OUT OF YOUR HABITATIONS two wave loaves of two tenth deals: they shall be of fine flour; they shall be baken with leaven; they are the FIRSTFRUITS unto the LORD." Agape

INCOMING EMAIL

Can u give me a lot of proof that heaven is a planet because my family doesn't believe it when I told them that it was in the Dakes Bible. Also, how can I see it

MY REPLY

Thanks for the reference in Dakes Bible. I had not seen this before. This is one Bible I don't have, but he quoted the KJV, which I have.

DAKES BIBLE:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread338292/pg1
" NOTES ON PSALMS p, 622, 623 Dake's Annotated Reference Bible, The Holy Bible containing the Old and New Testaments of the Authorized or King James Version "Text by Finis Jennings Dake."

"I reading the bible last night came across this wording in Psalms and then in the extensive notes on Psalms in the KJV, and thus spent time reading other verses:

"The words heaven and heavens are used 718 times in Scripture. They mean the air, clouds, sky, expanse, stars, and the planet on which God dwells.

"The Planet Heaven (2 Cor. 12); Created before Earth (Gen 1:1; 2:1; Job 38; 4-7)

"Heaven is a created planet like Earth (Gen 1:1; 2:1; Ps. 8:3)

"Highest Planet (Eph. 1:21; 4-1; Heb. 7:26)

"A paradise (2 Cor. 12:1-4; Rev. 2:7)

"God's dwelling place (Dt. 26:15; 1 Ki. 8:30, 39, 43, 49)

"Location
"...in the north part of the universe, in relationship to the Earth (Isa. 14:12-14; Ps. 75:6-7)

"...above (1 Ki. 8:23)

"...and in the highest part of creation (Job 22:12; Lk. 2:14; Eph. 1:21; 4:10)

"Shape
"...round (Job 22:14; Ps. 19:6)

...like the Earth (Isa. 40:22; Eccl. 1:6)

"size
"...unknown, but perhaps larger than Earth, judging from the size of its cities (Rev. 21:9-27), from the size of other planets compared to Earth and from the number of inhabitants (Jer. 33:22; Heb. 12:22-23)

"...has real cities (Heb. 11:10-15; 13:14; Rev. 21:2, 9-27)

"...all material things like we have on Earth (Rom. 1:20; Phil. 2-10)

"...Men have been taken to heaven and have lived there in natural bodies for thousands of years (Gen. 5:24; 2 Ki. 2:1, 11; Zech. 14:11-14; Heb. 11:5; Rev. 11:3-11)

"And much more can be found in the Bible = NOTES ON PSALMS p, 622, 623 Dake's Annotated Reference Bible, The Holy Bible containing the Old and New Testaments of the Authorized or King James Version Text by Finis Jennings Dake.

"Why is there so much doubt about life on other planets when the Bible states that God dwells on the planet called Heaven?

"I went to Church and I never heard one sermon that depicted Heaven as a planet. It was only ever 'paradise'. Well, why not be specific with the terminology?

"It would make a lot of sense too with the fall of man as per Genesis. They fell from a planet.

"Also, does this prove life exists on a Planet other than Earth? Yes I believe it does.

"Here we all are searching for answers and yet, here in the Bible, it states another Planet with life on it exists"

MY THOUGHTS

> > "Highest Planet (Eph. 1:21; 4-1; Heb. 7:26)"

To me, Heaven is not the highest planet. It is the third heaven.

Heb 7:26 says, "For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens".

God's Heaven is higher than the first two of the three heavens Paul talked about.

THE LOCATION OF GOD'S HEAVEN, ALSO CALLED PARADISE, IS THE THIRD HEAVEN

(1) Mars, (2) Jupiter, (3) SATURN.

PROOF

2Co 12:2-4 says that Paul "knew a man in Christ (i.e., Paul himself, he didn't want to boast) above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN. 3 And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) 4 How that he was caught up into PARADISE, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter."

Keep in mind that Jesus' September birthstone is the sapphire, which means heaven.

Exo_24:10 says, "And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a SAPPHIRE STONE, AND AS IT WERE THE BODY OF HEAVEN in his clearness."

Eze 1:1 says, "...the heavens were opened, and I saw visions of God."

Ezekiel saw the terrestrial planets Mercury, Venus, Earth and Mars, plus the Asteroid Belt, Jupiter and Saturn orbiting around the Sun.

Eze 1:15 says, "Now as I beheld the living creatures (chay, lively things, i.e., the flying planets), behold one wheel (i.e., orbit) upon the EARTH by the living creatures, with his four faces."

Earth, being spherical, faces the four directions of the compass, north, east, south and west, at the same time.

Jesus' September birthstone is the sapphire. As you read Eze 1:26-28, keep in mind that the sapphire means heaven. It comes from the Sanskrit Sani, Saturn, and priya, dear.

Eze 1:26-28 says, "And above the firmament (i.e., expanse of space) that was over their heads (i.e., farther out in space than the four terrestrial planets) was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a SAPPHIRE stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man (i.e., the only God/man is Jesus) above upon it. 27 And I saw as the colour of amber (i.e., Saturn is amber), as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins (i.e., from the equator) even upward, and from the appearance of his loins even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness (i.e., Saturn's rings) round about. 28 As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD."

Heaven (i.e., Saturn) is marked by a ring system that is like the glory of the LORD.

AT THE RAPTURE, WE WILL BE CAUGHT UP TO HEAVEN (i.e., SATURN)

Rev 4:1-3 says, "After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter. 2 And immediately I was (lit., became) in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven (i.e., on Saturn), and one (i.e., the God/man, Jesus) sat on the throne. 3 And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper (i.e., last stone in the breastplate) and a sardine stone (i.e., first stone in the breastplate, because Jesus is the first and the last): and THERE WAS A RAINBOW ROUND ABOUT THE THRONE (i.e., around Saturn), in sight like unto an emerald" (i.e., which was the stone of Judah, and Jesus is the Lion of the Tribe of Judah).

Rev 4:6 says, "And before the throne there was a sea of glass (hualinos, transparent) like unto crystal (krusallos, ice)".

That fits the ring system of Saturn. The water comes from Saturn's moon Enceladus. The space-craft Cassini discovered water-rich plumes venting from the south polar region of Enceladus.

"Cryovolcanoes near the south pole shoot geyser-like jets of water vapor, other volatiles, and solid material, including sodium chloride crystals and ice particles, into space, totaling approximately 200 kilograms (440 lb) per second.[15][17][18] Over 100 geysers have been identified.[19] Some of the water vapor falls back as "snow"; the rest escapes, and supplies most of the material making up Saturn's E ring." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enceladus) Agape

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