Pro and Con 1909
WHEN THE LORD CREATED THE MOON, HUGE SCOOPS OF THE SEA BED WERE DUMPED ON THE LAND IN TURKEY
The tombs above were excavated later
Here in Riverside, inland from Los Angeles, CA, there are similar rocky outcrops that obviously came from the ocean when an asteroid dug the Moon material out of the Pacific Basin.
IDENTITY OF THE TWO WITNESSES
> > the Two Witnesses will be two ordinary people that apparently come in the spirit and power of Moses and Elijah.
I think the two witnesses will actually be Moses and Elijah.
Rev 11:4 says, "These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth."
Zec 4:11-14 says, "What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof? 12 And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves? 13 And he answered me and said, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord. 14 Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth."
Mat 17:1-3 says, "And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart, 2 And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light." 3 And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him."
MY REPLY TO A POST ON FIVE DOVES
> > I just saw your post on 5doves about 3 raptures. I've felt that we're already in the first half of the tribulation for some time now, is that what you're thinking also? I believe that's what I read in your letter. In His love
Yes. I think the Tribulation started when the Pope was selected 3-13-13.
In the Bible, thirteen is symbolic of rebellion and lawlessness.
Wed. 3-13-2013 + 1260 days = Mid-Trib, Wed. Aug. 24, 2016, my mother’s birthday. I pay attention to that because our son David was born on April 6, crucifixion day. I dug post holes and built a fence around our front yard a week before, trying to make him be born on my husband's birthday, but the Lord had other plans.
I expect the Rapture on Pentecost, June 12, 2016, because fig trees put out their leaves in June, when “summer is nigh”.
I'll be glad to share some verses with you that are very meaningful to me. Let me know if there are some important ones I have missed.
In Mat 24:31-33, Jesus said, “And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. 32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer (i.e., June 21) is nigh: 33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it (i.e., the Rapture) is near, even at the doors” (i.e., there are two Raptures to come, one on Pentecost, the other on Tabernacles).
Deu 16:16 says, "Three times in a year shall all thy males appear before the LORD thy God in the place which he shall choose; in the feast of unleavened bread (i.e., the OT saints were taken to the heavenly New Jerusalem on Firstfruits, the 2nd day of Unleavened Bread on April 9, 30 AD), and in the feast of weeks (i.e., Pentecost), and in the feast of tabernacles".
Mat 25:10 says, "And while they (i.e., the foolish virgins) went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready (i.e., the wise-virgins) went in with him to the marriage: and the DOOR was shut."
A TYPE OF TWO RAPTURES
Num 10:1-4 says, "And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 2 Make thee two trumpets of silver; of a whole piece shalt thou make them: that thou mayest use them for the calling of the ASSEMBLY, and for the journeying of the camps. 3 And when they shall blow with them, all the assembly shall assemble themselves to thee at the DOOR of the tabernacle of the congregation. 4 And if they blow but with one trumpet, then the princes (i.e., elders), which are heads of the thousands of Israel, shall gather themselves unto thee."
THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY IN THE HEAVENLY JERUSALEM
Heb 12:22-26 says, "But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, THE HEAVENLY JERUSALEM, and to an innumerable company of angels, 23 To the GENERAL ASSEMBLY and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, 24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel. 25 See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven: 26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.
REVELATION 13 SOUNDS LIKE THE FIRST RAPTURE WILL TAKE PLACE JUST BEFORE THE FALSE PROPHET COMES TO POWER MID-TRIB
Rev 13:5-11 says, “And there was given unto him (i.e., ANTICHRIST, the first beast) a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months (i.e., the first half of the Tribulation). 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and THEM THAT DWELL IN HEAVEN (i.e., the First-Trump Rapture of the wise virgins just took place). 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints (i.e., the foolish virgins left behind at the first Rapture), and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9 If any man have an ear, let him hear. 10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints. 11 And I beheld another beast (i.e., the FALSE PROPHET) coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.”
REVELATION 12 AND DANIEL 12 AGREE ON A MID-TRIB RAPTURE WHEN MICHAEL STANDS UP
Rev 12:6-12 says, “And the woman (i.e., Israel) fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place (i.e., Petra) prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days (i.e., during the Great Tribulation). 7 And there was war in heaven: MICHAEL and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation (soteria, rescue, deliverance, i.e., the Rapture), and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12 THEREFORE REJOICE, HE HEAVENS, AND YE THAT DWELL IN THEM. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time (i.e., the shortened Great Tribulation).”
Dan 12:1,2 says, “And at that time (i.e., Mid-Trib) shall MICHAEL stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered (malat, escape, leap out, i.e., be raptured), every one that shall be found written in the book. 2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.”
Deu 4:30,31 says, "When thou art IN TRIBULATION, and all these things are come upon thee, EVEN IN THE LATTER DAYS, if thou turn to the LORD thy God, and shalt be obedient unto his voice; 31 (For the LORD thy God is a merciful God;) he will not forsake thee, neither destroy thee, nor forget the covenant of thy fathers which he sware unto them."
Act_14:22 says, "WE MUST THROUGH MUCH TRIBULATION ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD."
Rev_1:9-11 says, "I John, who also am your brother, and companion IN TRIBULATION, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos (i.e., meaning mortal), for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. 10 I was (lit., became) in the Spirit on the Lord's day (Sunday), and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, 11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega". Agape
I was listening to Chuck Missler recently and he pointed out Isaiah 26:19-21 as rapture verses. Although I'm sure I've read those verses before, when re-reading them with the rapture in mind it appears they are definitely talking about the rapture.
During the last few years I've felt that we must be in the first 3 1/2 years because in my view evil in the world has taken on levels I have not seen or read about in my life. I've been horrified by it and just in the last year I've been feeling a profound sense of finality and urgency. My daughter told me she's also been feeling it, and I've read about countless other Christians feeling it as well.
So that is why I emailed you when I read your letter. Because I don't see many others with the opinion that we're already in the first half. Well we don't have long to wait. Maranatha!
> > I was listening to Chuck Missler recently and he pointed out Isaiah 26:19-21 as rapture verses. Although I'm sure I've read those verses before, when re-reading them with the rapture in mind it appears they are definitely talking about the rapture.
Isa 26:19-21 says, “Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead. 20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast. 21 For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.”
THE FIRST PART SEEMS TO APPLY TO THE FIRST RAPTURE, WHEN JESUS TOOK THE OLD TESTAMENT SAINTS TO HEAVEN ON FIRSTFRUITS IN 30 AD
The clue is “together with my dead body shall they arise”.
It says, “Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.”
THE FOLLOWING SEEMS TO APPLY THE THE COMING MID-TRIB SECOND RAPTURE
“Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.”
THE INDIGNATION COULD REFER TO THE WRATH OF THE LORD AT THE END OF THE SHORTENED GREAT TRIBULATION
Isa_34:2 says, “For the indignation of the LORD is upon all nations, and his fury upon all their armies: he hath utterly destroyed them, he hath delivered them to the slaughter.”
Jer_10:10 says, “But the LORD is the true God, he is the living God, and an everlasting king: at his wrath the earth shall tremble, and the nations shall not be able to abide his indignation.”
Eze_21:31 says, “And I will pour out mine indignation upon thee, I will blow against thee in the fire of my wrath”.
Dan_8:19 says, “And he said, Behold, I will make thee know what shall be in the last end of the indignation: for at the time appointed the end shall be.”
Nah_1:6 says, “Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him.”
It looks like rocks will be broken off of the asteroid Wormwood at the Roche Limit. They will pepper the earth. A large piece will impact the Mediterranean Sea.
Eze 38:16-23 says, “And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes. 17 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Art thou he of whom I have spoken in old time by my servants the prophets of Israel, which prophesied in those days many years that I would bring thee against them? 18 And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that my fury shall come up in my face. 19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel; 20 So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence (paniym, face, i.e., they will see the Sign of the Son of Man in the sky), and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground. 21 And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord GOD: every man's sword shall be against his brother. 22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone. 23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD.”
The words “them that dwell in heaven” in Rev 13:6 woke me up and showed me that the Rapture will be Mid-Trib. Then I realized that the “COME UP HITHER” of Rev 4:1 was the same as the “RISE” in Rev 11:1.
The verse that opened my eyes there is Rev 10:11. It says, “And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy AGAIN before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.”
Rev 11:1-3 is definitely Mid-Trib. It says, “And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.”
I think we are very close to the Rapture. Pentecost will be June 12. The fig trees leaf out in June. Pentecost was in May last year, but this year fits. Agape
Subject: 2 raptures
I saw your online article about the 2 raptures/appearings for Christ's church and I've been seeing this in scripture as well, for a couple years now!!
The wise/faithful go in the pre-trib. rapture, while the foolish virgins/tribulation saints go before the great tribulation of God's wrath begins... ?????? Heb.9:28, when Jesus will APPEAR a SECOND TIME, for those who eagerly wait for Him!!!
And we know that the foolish virgins/tribulation saints will certainly be waiting for the Master to return from the wedding!!! ??
I think we are so close!!!! What are your thoughts these days???
It's getting so utterly wicked in our world... I hate being here... ??
I loved what you brought out too about Song of Songs 2 and our Beloved coming for His bride!!! ??
I so agree!! ??
God bless always
> > I think we are so close!!!! What are your thoughts these days???
I think we are close to the Mid-Trib Rapture. The Tribulation probably started 3-13-13. The Pope has blasphemed God, saying that he was not divine.
Rev 13:5-11 says, "And there was given unto him (i.e., ANTICHRIST) a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months (i.e., until Mid-Trib). 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and THEM THAT DWELL IN HEAVEN (i.e., the wise virgins, probably caught up on Pentecost just before Mid-Trib)7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints (i.e., the foolish virgins left behind), and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9 If any man have an ear, let him hear. 10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints. 11 And I beheld ANOTHER BEAST (i.e., the Satan-possessed False Prophet) coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon."
Israelite men were to go up to Jerusalem on Unleavened Bread, Pentecost and Tabernacles. That seems to show that there are three raptures, and they are on these feast days.
Deu 16:16 says, "Three times in a year shall all thy males appear before the LORD thy God in the place which he shall choose; in the feast of unleavened bread, and in the feast of weeks, and in the feast of tabernacles".
Jesus took the OT saints to heaven on Firstfruits, the 2nd day of Unleavened Bread, a 7-day feast.
I am hoping the second Rapture will be on Pentecost, June 12, 2016.
The last Rapture could be on Tabernacles, October 15, 2019. Agape
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