Pro and Con 1918

Posted 6-16-16

"KNOW YE THAT THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS NIGH AT HAND"

Mar 13:27-30 says, "And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven. 28 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When her branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves (i.e., it's June), ye know that summer is near (i.e., June 20/21): 29 So ye in like manner, when ye shall see these things come to pass, know that IT IS NIGH, EVEN AT THE DOORS. 30 Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done."

Mat 24:32-44 says, "Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves (i.e., it's June), ye know that summer (i.e., June 21) is nigh: 33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that IT IS NEAR, EVEN AT THE DOORS. 34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. 35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. 36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. 37 But as the days of Noe were (i.e., they went into the Ark Iyar 17), so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark (i.e., Iyar 17), 39 And knew not until the flood came (i.e., it rained 40 days, until Sivan 27), and took them all away; SO SHALL ALSO THE COMING OF THE SON OF MAN BE. 40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. 43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. 44 Therefore BE YE ALSO READY: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh."

Gen 7:11-13 says, "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. 12 And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights. 13 In the selfsame day entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah's wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark".

Luk 21:29-31 says, "And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees; 30 When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand. 31 So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand."

In Joh 14:6, "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

EASTERN ORTHODOX PENTECOST FALLS ON FATHER'S DAY

Sun. June 19, 2016.
The Eastern Orthodox Church uses the Julian Calendar, which was in use in 30 AD.

The Rapture will come at the time when the fig tree puts forth leaves. That is in June.

Mat 24:32-35 says, "Now learn a Parable of the 'FIG-TREE.' When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth LEAVES, ye know that summer is nigh: so likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it (He, R.V.), is near, even at the doors. Verily I say unto you, This GENERATION (the word means 'Race'-JEWISH RACE) shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away."

According to Son 2:10-15, the Rapture must come before summer, June 21. June 19 fits.

Son 2:10-15 says, "My beloved spake, and said unto me, Rise up, my love, my fair one, and come away. 11 For, lo, the winter is past, the rain is over and gone; 12 The flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle (lit., turtledove) is heard in our land (i.e., they come in April and leave in October); 13 The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell. Arise, my love, my fair one, and come away. 14 O my dove, that art in the clefts of the rock, in the secret places (i.e., places is not in the original) of the stairs, let me see thy countenance, let me hear thy voice; for sweet is thy voice, and thy countenance is comely. 15 Take us the foxes, the little foxes, that spoil the vines: for our vines have tender grapes."

RAPTURE ON PENTECOST

Ruth and Boaz were married soon after the end of the barley harvest. Ruth lay at his feet on Pentecost.

Enoch, which means teaching, was raptured on Sivan 6 (now Pentecost), which was also the day he was born (according to tradition).

If the church is raptured on Pentecost, it will be on the anniversary of the day it was born.

In Act 20:16, Luke, a Gentile Christian, said, "But I will tarry at Ephesus until Pentecost."

The first message from Jesus in Rev 2 was to the church of Ephesus.

Act_20:16 says, "For Paul had determined to sail by Ephesus, because he would not spend the time in Asia: for he hasted, if it were possible for him, to be at Jerusalem the day of Pentecost."

EARTHQUAKES

We felt two small earthquakes here in Riverside, CA, on 6-10-16. The 5.2 quake was centered 20 KM nnw of Borrego Springs, which is north of San Diego.

6-12-16: There have been more than 200 aftershocks. https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome-psyapi2&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8&q=earthquake%20borrego%20springs%20ca&oq=earthquake%20borrego&aqs=chrome.2.0j69i57j0l4.10481j0j4

A REPLY TO MY EMAIL

I can completely agree and understand how the two witnesses second half I don't know why I did not know this before it is quite clear

MY REPLY

Thanks for letting me know.

I just watched a good video on Petra at:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEGYvLo4N-Y

I'm hard of hearing and couldn't read all of the inscriptions until I made it full screen.

I also found this:
"Few inscriptions of any length have been found at Petra, perhaps because they have perished with thestucco or cement which was used upon many of the buildings. The simple pylon-tombs which belong to the pre-Hellenic age serve as evidence for the earliest period. It is not known how far back in this stage the Nabataean settlement goes, but it does not go back farther than the 6th century BC."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petra
...Agape

INCOMING EMAIL

I thought that Jewish year begins in the Tishri. Not true? Even thought the first month was changed to Nisan, at the Exodus, I thought the number of the year still changes in Tishri.

MY REPLY

The Hebrew Year still changes Tishri 1. The Sacred Year, Jubilee Year and Regnal Year all begin the following Nisan 1. The Jubilee is announced on the previous Day of Atonement so the people won't plant things they won't be able to harvest the following spring, etc. Agape

INCOMING EMAIL, RE: Back to the drawing board

I've been following your posts for many years and have even opined from time to time on your pro/con index, but the fact we are both still here after your last predicted rapture date of Sunday 6/12/16 came and went should probably once and for all cause you to stop making these predictions. I can sense that you are sincere, and are undoubtedly very learned, but your prediction record has not been very good over the years.

I believe, as you do, that there will be a literal catching away of believers, but unlike you, I think it will be pre- tribulation or prior to the 7 year agreement the antichrist will make with Israel. I do not see that this has happened yet and thus we can not be past the mid-trib point as you have indicated on your website. I think it is far more likely that in fact we are just barely approaching the start of the 70 th. week of Daniel, which will put Israel back as the focus with the entire church having been raptured out in the near future. We will no longer restrain evil from taking hold of this earth...

Psalms makes it clear that a normal lifespan of man is anywhere from 70-80 years. Which has been proven true in this modern era. Check Israel's current life expectancy or the the US, Europe, and Asia's and you'll see that the Psalmist was dead on...my belief is that Israel's rebirth as a nation in 1948 started the count down, which means all events depicted in Daniel, Ezekiel and Revelation as well as the gospels as it relates to end time events must come to fruition prior to the passing of the generation which witnessed the rebirth of Israel.

The bottom line, 1948 plus 80 years is 2028, minus the 7 year tribulation period puts the rapture at anywhere between 2011 - 2021, 2021 being at the latest since the Psalmist put the life span at 70-80 years!

This view keeps the rapture "imminent" with a date that not even the Angels or Son of Man knows....the bible says we will know the times and seasons and would not be left in darkness...Blessings to you

MY REPLY

> > your prediction record has not been very good over the years

No one else has done any better. We are all just doing our best to figure it out. I don't give up. We seem to be in the ballpark.

Amo 3:7 says, "Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets."

EASTERN ORTHODOX PENTECOST IS NEXT SUNDAY

June 19, 2016 (https://oca.org/fs/paschal-cycle)

They use the Julian Calendar in use in 30 AD.

THIS IS THE JUBILEE YEAR

1967 + a 49-yr generation = 2016.

FIGS PUT FORTH LEAVES IN JUNE

Mat 24:32-34 says, "Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, AND PUTTETH FORTH LEAVES, ye know that summer is nigh: 33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. 34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled."

THE SECRET OF THE STAIRS POINTS US TO JUNE

Son 2:10-15 says, "My beloved spake, and said unto me, Rise up, my love, my fair one, and come away. 11 For, lo, the winter is past (i.e., it is spring), the rain is over and gone (i.e., Nisan is over); 12 The flowers appear on the earth (i.e., beginning in May); the time of the singing of birds is come (i.e., it is spring), and the voice of the turtle (lit., turtledove, which comes in April and leaves in October, encompassing the time of both Raptures) is heard in our land; 13 The fig tree putteth forth her GREEN FIGS, and the vines with the TENDER GRAPE give a good smell (i.e., in June). Arise, my love, my fair one, and come away. 14 O my dove, that art in the clefts of the rock, in the secret places (places is not in the original) of the stairs, let me see thy countenance, let me hear thy voice; for sweet is thy voice, and thy countenance is comely. 15 Take us the foxes, the little foxes, that spoil the vines: for our vines have tender grapes."

A PRESENT SHALL BE BROUGHT UNTO THE LORD IN THE SPRING

Isa 18:3-7 says, "All ye inhabitants of the world, and dwellers on the earth, see ye, when he lifteth up an ensign (i.e., UN flag) on the mountains (i.e., kingdoms); and when he bloweth a trumpet (i.e., on the first day of the month and on feast days, Nu 10:10), hear ye. 4 For so the LORD said unto me, I will take my rest, and I will consider in my dwelling place like a clear heat upon herbs, and like a cloud of dew in the heat of harvest. 5 For afore the harvest, when the bud is perfect, and the sour grape is ripening in the flower, he shall both cut off the sprigs with pruning hooks, and take away (i.e., in the SPRING) and cut down the branches. 6 They shall be left together unto the fowls of the mountains, and to the beasts of the earth: and the fowls shall SUMMER upon them, and all the beasts of the earth shall WINTER upon them. 7 IN THAT TIME (i.e., spring) SHALL THE PRESENT BE BROUGHT UNTO THE LORD OF HOSTS OF A PEOPLE SCATTERED AND PEELED, and from a people terrible from their beginning hitherto; a nation meted out and trodden under foot, whose land the rivers have spoiled, to the place of the name of the LORD of hosts, the mount Zion."

A SUNDAY IN THE SPRING

Rev_1:10 says, "I was (lit., became) in the Spirit on the Lord's day (i.e., Sunday), and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet".

Rev_4:1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, COME UP HITHER".

That trumpet seems to be sounded on a Sunday Rapture, and Pentecost is always on Sunday.

"With a leap year, it would appear that Sunday June 19th will be Pentecost"
http://kbwealth4u.com/rapture.htm

"Renee Moses looks at several amazing calculations that all come out to June 17-19, 2016, as the start of the Days of Darkness on the earth. June 19, 2016, is one of three possible dates for Pentecost".
http://beforeitsnews.com/prophecy/2016/05/days-of-darkness-on-earth-will-be-june-17-19-2016-2480872.html

Don't give up. He is coming soon. This is the Jubilee Year.

> > I think it will be pre- tribulation

I thought it would be Pre-Trib for many years. I changed my mind in a flash when I re-read Rev 13:5-11.

Rev 13:5-11 says, "And there was given unto him (i.e., Antichrist) a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies (i.e., Francis said, 'God is not a divine being'); and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months (i.e., the first half of the Tribulation). 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and THEM THAT DWELL IN HEAVEN (i.e., the wise virgins). 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints (i.e., the foolish virgins left behind), and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9 If any man have an ear, let him hear. 10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints. 11 And I beheld another beast (i.e., the Satan-possessed False Prophet) coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns (i.e., two comings to power, in Judas Iscariot and the False Prophet) like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon."

I also read Rev 10:11 and Rev 11:1-4.

Rev 10:11 says, "Thou must prophesy AGAIN before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings."

Rev 11:1-3 says, "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, RISE (i.e., in the Mid-Trib Rapture), and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days (i.e., during the Great Tribulation), clothed in sackcloth."

We are the temple of God. It looks like the literal temple cannot be built until we are gone. Everything is ready now.

> > Psalms makes it clear that a normal lifespan of man is anywhere from 70-80 years. Which has been proven true in this modern era. Check Israel's current life expectancy or the the US, Europe, and Asia's and you'll see that the Psalmist was dead on...my belief is that Israel's rebirth as a nation in 1948 started the count down, which means all events depicted in Daniel, Ezekiel and Revelation as well as the gospels as it relates to end time events must come to fruition prior to the passing of the generation which witnessed the rebirth of Israel.

> > The bottom line, 1948 plus 80 years is 2028, minus the 7 year tribulation period puts the rapture at anywhere between 2011 - 2021, 2021 being at the latest since the Psalmist put the life span at 70-80 years!

> > This view keeps the rapture "imminent" with a date that not even the Angels or Son of Man knows....the bible says we will know the times and seasons and would not be left in darkness...

As you probably know, the word "imminent" is not in the KJV Bible.

Act 1:7,8 says, "And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. 8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth."

Just maybe, their writings reveal the time of the Rapture. I keep searching. Agape

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