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POPE FRANCIS CLAIMS THAT ANTICHRIST
Posted Tue, June 21, 2016
WILL COME AUGUST 30, 2016
Pope Francis: "Why The Antichrist Will Come on 30 August 2016"
"The Antichrist is called the Beast, the Lawless One, the Man of Sin, The Messiah, Al Mahdi and the Son of Perdition - The Antichrist Identity is an international group of political researchers, analysts and media group with a predominant focus on the formation of the coming new world order and its impact on a political, economic and social level And Everybody confirms that the Antichrist will be found on 30 August 2016.
"God warns of a world leader who will soon rise and grow in power. This coming world leader has been given around 33 names and titles (which describe attributes) in the Bible (both in the Old and New Testaments) ... one of which is the 'Antichrist.' The Bible says this man will not be revealed until after the 'Restrainer' (the Holy Spirit - including the body of believers alive at the time) is 'removed' (as a note, some believe at that time the U.S. will also be "removed" from its role as a "restraining" world power). This coming world leader (the Antichrist) will begin by exerting control over ten nations which were once part of the Roman Empire (most likely European)".
He is twisting Scripture. To me, the Antichrist is one man, probably Pope Francis, who rules during the first half of the Tribulation.
At Mid-Trib, the First-Trump Rapture will take place, then the False Prophet will take over during the Great Tribulation.
Rev 17:8-14 says, "The beast that thou sawest (i.e., Satan) was (i.e., in Judas Iscariot), and is not (i.e., in man now); and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit (i.e., Mid-Trib), and go into perdition (i.e., the False Prophet): and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. 9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman (i.e., Rome) sitteth. 10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is (i.e., Antichrist), and the other (i.e., the False Prophet) is not yet come; and when he cometh (i.e., Mid-Trib), he must continue a short space (i.e., the shortened Great Tribulation). 11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he (i.e., Satan) is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition (i.e., the False Prophet). 12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are TEN KINGS, WHICH HAVE RECEIVED NO KINGDOM AS YET; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. 13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. 14 These shall make war with the Lamb (i.e., Christ), and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him (i.e., those caught up in the Mid-Trib Rapture) are called, and chosen, and faithful."
Rev 13:5-11 says, "And there was given unto him (i.e., Antichrist, the first beast) a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies (i.e., Francis said that God was not divine); and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months (i.e., the first half of the Tribulation). 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and THEM THAT DWELL IN HEAVEN (i.e., the First-Trump Rapture of the wise virgins just took place). 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints (i.e., the foolish virgins left behind), and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9 If any man have an ear, let him hear. 10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints. 11 And I beheld another beast (i.e., the Satan-possessed False Prophet) coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon."
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> > The Antichrist Must Come Before The Rapture
I agree, and the False Prophet comes after the first Rapture.
THE FIRST RAPTURE, MID-TRIB
2Th 2:1-3 says, "Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord
Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon
shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by
letter as from us, as that the day of Christ (i.e., day of the Lord in
Vatican, Siniatic, and Alexandrine codices) is at hand. 3 Let no man
deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a
falling away (i.e., departing, as in the Geneva Bible) FIRST, and that man
of sin (i.e., the False Prophet) be revealed, the son of perdition".
THE SECOND RAPTURE, AT THE END OF THE GREAT TRIBULATION
Mar 13:24-27 says, "But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall
be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, 25 And the stars of
heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. 26
And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power
and glory. 27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together
his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the
uttermost part of heaven."
Rev 13:5-11 says, "And there was given unto him (i.e., Antichrist) a mouth
speaking great things and blasphemies (i.e., Francis said that God was not
divine); and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months
(i.e., during the first half of the Tribulation). 6 And he opened his mouth
in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and
THEM THAT DWELL IN HEAVEN (i.e., the Rapture of the wise virgins just took
place Mid-Trib). 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints
(i.e., the foolish virgins left behind), and to overcome them: and power was
given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell
upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of
life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9 If any man have
an ear, let him hear. 10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into
captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword.
Here is the patience and the faith of the saints. 11 And I beheld another
beast (i.e., the Satan-possessed False Prophet) coming up out of the earth;
and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon."
THE RAPTURE WILL BE MID-TRIB, AND THERE ARE SOME IN THYATIRA THAT WILL BE CAST INTO THE GREAT TRIBULATION
Rev 2:18-25 says, "And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira (i.e.,
meaning continual sacrifice) write; These things saith the Son of God, who
hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass;
19 I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience,
and thy works; and the last to be more than the first. 20 Notwithstanding I
have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel
(i.e., WHO WORSHIPPED BAAL, THE SUN GOD, WHICH REMINDS ME OF THE MONSTRANCE THAT LOOKS LIKE THE SUN), which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to EAT THINGS SACRIFICED UNTO IDOLS. 21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. 22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery (i.e., join) with her into GREAT TRIBULATION, except they repent of their deeds. 23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. 24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the DEPTHS OF SATAN, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden. 25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come."
Mat 24:20-22 says, "But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter,
neither on the sabbath day: 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as
was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall
be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be
saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened."
There is a second Rapture. Rev 7:14 says, "These are they which came out of
great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the
blood of the Lamb."
Rev 12:6-11 says, "And the woman (i.e., Israel) fled into the wilderness,
where she hath a place (i.e., Petra) prepared of God, that they should feed
her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days (i.e., during the Great
Tribulation). 7 And there was war in heaven (i.e., at Mid-Trib): Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now (i.e., Mid Trib) is come salvation (soteria, rescue, deliverance, salvation, i.e., the Rapture), and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death."
Dan 12:1 says, "And at that time (i.e., Mid-Trib) shall Michael stand up,
the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there
shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even
to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered (malat,
escape, leap out), every one that shall be found written in the book."
> > Paul reached out to the church in Thessalonica because they were thrown
> > into turmoil over the idea of the Rapture. It appears that someone was
> > telling them that they had missed it. Here is whal Paul sayus in 2
> > Thessalonians 2:
> > Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ,
> > and by our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in
> > mind, or be troubles, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as
> > from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
> > Let no man deceeive you by any means: for that day shall not come,
> > except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed,
> > the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that
> > is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the
> > temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. - 2 Thessalonians 2:1-4
> > The Antichrist MUST come before the Rapture. There is no other way that
> > you can interpret this verse. None. Unfortunately, pre-tribbers seek to
> > twist this verse by saying that 'falling away' is The Rapture.
> > Really? Apostasy is the RAPTURE?
> > Here's the Greek word that Paul used for 'falling away':
> > ... apostasia
> > That is NOT - and cannot be - the word for the Rapture. In another
> > verse, apostasia was translated as forsake in Acts 21:21, when Paul was
> > being accused of teaching apostasy, it was because they thought that he
> > was telling people to forsake the Law of Moses.
> > Apostasia is NEVER used in ANY place in the Bible in reference to the Rapture....
> > The Tribulation Must Come Before The Rapture
> >...the Rapture MUST HAPPEN AFTER THE TRIBULATION!"
There are three Raptures. That seems to be why the males were to go up to
Jerusalem on Unleavened Bread, Pentecost and Tabernacles. The first was when
Jesus took the OT saints to heaven on Firstfruits in 30 AD.
I think the Rapture of ITh 4:16,17 will be Mid-Trib and the Rapture of I Cor
15:51-54 will be on the Day of the Lord after the Great Tribulation.
> > Apostasia is NEVER used in ANY place in the Bible in reference to the
> > Rapture....
I think it refers to the Rapture in 2Th 2:1-4.
THE GENEVA BIBLE SAYS "A DEPARTING FIRST"
(2Th 2:1-4) "Nowe we beseech you, brethren, by the comming of our Lord Iesus
Christ, and by our assembling vnto him, 2 That ye be not suddenly mooued
from your minde, nor troubled neither by spirit, nor by worde, nor by
letter, as it were from vs, as though the DAY OF CHRIST (i.e., it should be
DAY OF THE LORD, as in Vaticanus, Alexandrine, and Siniaticus codeces) were
at hand. 3 Let no man deceiue you by any meanes: for that day shall not
come, except there come A DEPARTING FIRST, and that that man of sinne be
disclosed, euen the sonne of perdition, 4 Which is an aduersarie, and
exalteth him selfe against all that is called God, or that is worshipped: so
that he doeth sit as God in the Temple of God, shewing him selfe that he is
The reason the Geneva Bible doesn't have DAY OF THE LORD instead of DAY OF
CHRIST is simple. Three older manuscripts were found AFTER it was first
The Sinaitic Codex (331 AD), the Alexandrian Codex (1078), and the Vatican
Codex (1475 or 1481) all have day of the Lord.
2Th 2:1 gives us the subject of this passage. It says, "Now we beseech you,
brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering
together unto him". That is the Rapture.
Apostasia is translated "DEPARTING" in seven early Bibles.
Wycliffe had "departynge first", as in the original Geneva Bible. So did
Tyndale, Coverdale, Cranmer, Breeches and Beza.
Rotherham has "departure from the faith". Apostasia can mean departing.
Dr. Thomas Ice wrote: "The Meaning of Apostasia
"The Greek noun apostasia is only used twice in the New Testament. In
addition to 2 Thessalonians 2:3, it occurs in Acts 21:21 where, speaking of
Paul, it is said, " that you are teaching all the Jews who are among the
Gentiles to forsake (apostasia)Moses." The word is a Greek compound of apo "
from" and istemi " stand." Thus, it has the core meaning of " away from" or
" DEPARTURE." The Liddell and Scott Greek Lexicon defines apostasia first as
" defection, revolt;" then secondly as " departure, disappearance." 
Gordon Lewis explains how the verb from which the noun apostasia is derived
supports the basic meaning of departure in the following:
"The verb may mean to remove spatially. There is little reason then to deny
that the noun can mean such a spatial removal or DEPARTURE. Since the noun
is used only one other time in the New Testament of apostasy from Moses
(Acts 21:21), we can hardly conclude that its Biblical meaning is
necessarily determined. The verb is used fifteen times in the New Testament.
Of these fifteen, only three have anything to do with a departure from the
faith (Luke 8;13; 1 Tim. 4:1; Heb 3:12). The word is used for departing from
iniquity (2 Tim. 2:19), from ungodly men(1 Tim. 6:5), from the temple (Luke
2:27), from the body (2 Cor. 12:8), and from persons (Acts 12:10; Luke
4:13).  Paul Lee Tan adds the following:
"What precisely does Paul mean when he says that " the falling away" (2:3)
must come before the tribulation? The definite article " the" denotes that
this will be a definite event, an event distinct from the appearance of the
Man of Sin. The Greek word for " falling away" , taken by itself, does not
mean religious apostasy or defection. Neither does the word mean " to fall,"
as the Greeks have another word for that. [pipto, I fall; TDI] The best
translation of the word is " to depart." The apostle Paul refers here to a
definite event which he calls "the departure".
"It is with full assurance of proper exegetical study and with complete
confidence in the original languages," concludes Daniel Davey, " that the
word meaning of apostasia is defined as departure."
"The Greek word apostasy is a compound word, "apo" -from and "istemi"-
stand. So we see here that the fundamental meaning is "away from or
"Jerome's Latin translation known as the Vulgate from around the time of
a.d. 400 renders apostasia with the "word discessio, meaning 'departure.'"
The Antichrist comes to power at the beginning of the Tribulation. The
Rapture of ITh 4:16,17 is Mid-Trib. Then the False Prophet will come to
power in the Great Tribulation.
Rev 6:2 is talking about the False Prophet. It says, "And I saw, and behold
a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow (toxon, plain fabric, sign
of a man of the cloth); and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth
conquering, and to conquer."
Dan 8:23-25 says, "when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of
fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up. 24
And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall
destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the
mighty and the holy people. 25 And through his policy also he shall cause
craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and
by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of
princes; but he shall be broken without hand."
We put on incorruption at the First Rapture, but not immortality. The Rapture of ICo 15:51-54 is on the Day of the Lord at the end of the Great Tribulation. That is when the whole Body of Christ will put on immortality.
1Co 15:51-54 says, "Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory."
TWO TRUMPETS, TWO RAPTURES
Num 10:1-4 says, "And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 2 Make thee two trumpets of silver; of a whole piece shalt thou make them: that thou mayest use them for the CALLING OF THE ASSEMBLY, and for the journeying of the camps. 3 And when they shall blow with them, all the assembly shall assemble themselves to thee at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation. 4 And if they blow but with one trumpet, then the princes, which are heads of the thousands of Israel, shall gather themselves unto thee."
Heb 12:22-28 says, "But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, 23 To the GENERAL ASSEMBLY and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, 24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel. 25 See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven: 26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven. 27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain. 28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear". Agape
THE COMING OF THE SON OF MAN
Mat 24:37 says, "But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be."
Noah went into the Ark on Iyar 17. It rained 40 days and 40 nights.
17th of Iyyar, 5776 = Wed, 25 May 2016.
Wed, 25 May 2016 + 40 days = Monday, July 4, 2016, Independence Day in the US.
We are the Temple of the Holy Spirit. Two temples went up in smoke on Av 9 and 10.
THE PARABLE OF THE FIG TREE
Mt 24:32,33 says, "Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: 33
So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors."
Two temples went up in smoke on Av 9,10. Maybe the Rapture of the temple of the Holy Spirit will go up on Av 9,10.
Jer 52:12,13 says, "Now in the fifth month, in the tenth day of the month, which was the nineteenth year of Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon, came Nebuzaradan, captain of the guard, which served the king of Babylon, into Jerusalem, 13 And burned the house of the LORD, and the king's house; and all the houses of Jerusalem, and all the houses of the great men, burned he with fire".
Av 10 will be Sun. Aug 14, 2016.
After I read your comment to me, I was suddenly reminded that it was actually your amazing and insightful articles and another brother ( forgotten his name ) doing Bible Codes in Fivedoves back in 1998 that started me on hot pursuit about things of the last days pertaining to the Rapture! That was when I first experienced Christian fellowship and correspondence through the computer.......
I would like to take this time...to say a BIG THANK YOU and God bless you for remaining faithful to watching and praying for the Lord's Return all these years...
This also reminds me that all these would not be possible without the faithfulness of Brother John Tng who has been keeping "Fivedoves" running since 1997, I am sure, by the Grace of God!
A BIG THANK YOU TO BROTHER JOHN TNG TOO........Only the Lord can give you a reward befitting your labor of love and commitment all these years here at Fivedoves...God Bless....EVEN SO, COME QUICKLY, LORD JESUS......
> > a BIG THANK YOU and God bless you for remaining faithful to watching and praying for the Lord's Return all these years
Thanks much. The Lord has been good to me, and I have done my best to understand the Bible.
...I will not give up. It will happen right on time. The Lord's plans are perfect, whether we understand them or not.
Two times in my life, I almost died.
Long ago, two angels held me down. I could not move, not even breathe. All I could do was shout in my mind, "Lord, make them quit." He did, and I have been studying the Bible as hard as I can go ever since.
I am now 87 and diabetic. In February this year, I had forgotten to take my pills, and went into a Diabetic Coma. I don't remember being put into the ambulance, or being taken out of it. I was out quite a while. The first thing I knew, someone was taking off my jewelry, but I didn't open my eyes. Later, my daughter said she took it off. It takes her 45 minutes to drive from her house to the hospital. How much longer I was out, I don't know, but when I finally woke up, a nurse said, "The Lord loves you very, very much. Many don't make it." I am now on insulin.
I still have something to do for the Lord. or I wouldn't be here. Agape
THE CHELYABINSK METEOR WAS A PIECE OF AN ASTEROID
"The meteor fireball that crashed into Russia in February (Feb. 15, 2013) was part of a 656-foot wide asteroid called 2011 EO40."
The stone that will destroy Babylon is the asteroid Wormwood (Rev 8:11). It probably will come from the planet Rahab that is now our Asteroid Belt.
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