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Posted 9-19-16

SATURN

Ever since Mid-December last year, Saturn (Heaven) has been doing a retrograde dance in Ophiuchus as if marking time for us to catch up. If the Rapture takes place on Trumpets, Oct. 3, 2016, Saturn will still be in Ophiuchus, which represents Christ wrestling with the serpent (Satan) to keep him from getting the crown.

A BIG SURPRISE; COLORED MOSAIC STONES FROM THE COURTYARD OF THE HERODIAN TEMPLE HAVE BEEN FOUND

I had no idea the courtyard was so decorated. See the pictures. Did Jesus teach standing on these stones? He taught in the Temple daily.

Mar_14:49 says, "I was daily with you in the temple teaching, and ye took me not: but the scriptures must be fulfilled."
http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/75233/first-time-ever-undeniable-evidence-jewish-temple-discovered-photos/#KPblT5FI6CSlrhsR.97

LOST STONE FOR HIGH PRIEST'S BREASTPLATE THOUGHT FOUND

"One Small Stone, an Incredible Journey
Experts agree that a small onyx stone, claimed to be given to a Knight Templar over 1,000 years ago, is actually what the present owner claims: a gem from the breastplate of the High Priest in Jerusalem."
http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/75645/bin-exclusive-lost-stone-high-priests-prophetic-breastplate-thought-found-incredible-journey/?mc_cid=3d4f22a975&mc_eid=a9cca03b6a#HbWFt4YckyEy10wU.97

LOST GEM FROM HIGH PRIEST'S BREASTPLATE FOUND?

Onyx stone from Jerusalem with Hebrew inscription has been in family since A.D. 1189

(London Daily Mail) "A small onyx stone believed to have been worn in the sacred breastplate of the High Priest of Jerusalem may have been found after being missing for more than 1,000 years.

"A sardonyx gem, thought to have been one of two that were set in gold on each shoulder of the breastplate and deemed to be 'forms of divine communication', was discovered in South Africa.

"The owner claims the stone was given to a distant ancestor as a reward from the High Priest in 1189 and has been passed from generation to generation of the family since."
http://www.wnd.com/2016/09/lost-gem-from-high-priests-breastplate-found/#3HGJxSM5SLLeWhZS.99

Prophetic Lost Stone From High Priest's Breastplate
Believed Found After 1,000-Year Journey

http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/75645/bin-exclusive-lost-stone-high-priests-prophetic-breastplate-thought-found-incredible-journey/#KeSGf74RCPRhz4rs.99

"Experts agree that a small onyx stone, claimed to be given to a Knight Templar over 1,000 years ago, is actually a gem from the breastplate of the High Priest in Jerusalem."

Are things like this showing up now because it is almost Mid-Trib?

THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE WILL COME BEFORE THE FALSE PROPHET IS REVEALED

2Th 2:1-4 says, "Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him (i.e., on the Day of Christ), 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the DAY OF CHRIST (i.e., Day of the Lord, as in Vaticanus, Alexandrine and Septuagint codices) is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day (i.e., Day of the Lord) shall not come, except there come a falling away (i.e., DEPARTURE, as in the Geneva Bible) first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition (i.e., the False Prophet); 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God SITTETH IN THE TEMPLE OF GOD, shewing himself that he is God." Are things like this showing up now because it is almost Mid-Trib?

Moses and Elijah will come at the time of the first Rapture. Evidently, they will get the temple built.

THE MEANING OF THE PILLARS BOAZ AND JACHIN
IN FRONT OF THE TEMPLE

By Marilyn Agee

To me, the two pillars represent the two Raptures, the two gateways into Heaven, Boaz at Mid-Trib, Jachin on the Day of the Lord at the end of the Great Tribulation.

1Ki 7:18-21 (KJV) says, "And he made the pillars, and two rows round about upon the one network, to cover the chapiters that were upon the top, with POMEGRANATES (i.e., each pomegranate has as many as 613 seeds, representing many believers): and so did he for the other chapiter. 19 And the chapiters that were upon the top of the pillars were of lily work in the porch, four cubits. 20 And the chapiters upon the two pillars had POMEGRANATES also above, over against the belly which was by the network: and the POMEGRANATES were two hundred in rows round about upon the other chapiter. 18 And he made the pillars, and two rows round about upon the one network, to cover the chapiters that were upon the top, with POMEGRANATES : and so did he for the other chapiter. 19 And the chapiters that were upon the top of the pillars were of lily work in the porch, four cubits. 20 And the chapiters upon the two pillars had POMEGRANATES also above, over against the belly which was by the network: and the POMEGRANATES were two hundred in rows round about upon the other chapiter. 21 And he set up the pillars in the porch of the temple: and he set up the right pillar, and called the name thereof Jachin (yakiyn, Yah will establish in strength): and he set up the left pillar, and called the name thereof Boaz." (meaning in God's strength).

1Ki 7:21 (ESV) says, "He set up the pillar on the south and called its name Jachin, and he set up the pillar on the north and called its name Boaz."

Boaz is a good name to represent the First-Trump Rapture. Ruth married Boaz, the kinsman redeemer, a type of Christ.

HEIGHT OF THE PILLARS

"They would be from eighteen to twenty-one feet in circumference, and stand forty feet in height"
(Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary)

THE MEANING OF THE TEMPLE AND PORCH OF THE PRIESTS

The freestanding pillars were bronze, which develops a green patina, suggesting the green Earth. Also in the porch of the Temple, the bronze Altar and bronze Sea represented Earth. The pillars represent going from Earth to Heaven.

The lowest stage was called "Bosom of the Earth".
http://www.bible-archaeology.info/temple_of_solomon.htm

Psa 78:69 says, "And he built his sanctuary like high palaces, like the earth which he hath established for ever."

In the Temple, the Holy Place represented Mars and Jupiter. The Holy of Holies represented Saturn, the third Heaven, the throne of Christ.

SATURN, THE THRONE OF JESUS

Eze 1:1 says, "the heavens were opened, and I saw visions of God."

Eze 1:26-28 says, "And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man (i.e., the only God/man is Jesus) above upon it. 27 And I saw as the colour of amber (i.e., Saturn is amber), as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins (i.e., from the equator) even upward, and from the appearance of his loins even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness (i.e., Saturn's ring system) round about. 28 As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD."

Sapphire, as the September birthstone of Jesus, means heaven. The word sapphire means "dear to the planet Saturn, from the Sanskrit Sani, Saturn, and priya, dear.

"HE THAT HATH AN EAR, LET HIM HEAR WHAT THE SPIRIT SAITH UNTO THE CHURCHES"

Rev 3:12,13 says, "Him that overcometh will I make a PILLAR in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name. 13 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches."

"Jewish tradition teaches that the pomegranate is a symbol of righteousness because it is said to have 613 seeds, which corresponds with the 613 mitzvot, or commandments, of the Torah. For this reason and others, it is customary to eat pomegranates on Rosh Hashanah." http://www.jewishgiftplace.com/Symbolism-Of-Pomegranate.html

I wonder if the First-Trump Rapture will take place on Rosh Hashanah, the Feast of Trumpets. This year, the sign in Rev. 12 will be in the sky on Trumpets, Oct. 3, 2016. We are still in the Jubilee Year too. It will end next Nisan 1, 5777, March 28, 2016.

Josephus, a Pharisee priest, in Ant. III. VII. 7, said, "...if any one do but consider the fabric of the tabernacle, and take a view of the garments of the high priest, and of those vessels which we make use of in our sacred ministration, he will find that our legislator was a divine man, and that we are unjustly reproached by others; for if any one do without prejudice, and with judgment, look upon these things, he will find THEY WERE EVERY ONE MADE IN WAY OF IMITATION AND REPRESENTATION OF THE UNIVERSE. When Moses distinguished the tabernacle into three parts, and allowed two of them to the priests, as a place accessible and common, he denoted the land and the sea, these being of general access to all; but HE SET APART THE THIRD DIVISION FOR GOD, BECAUSE HEAVEN IS INACCESSIBLE TO MEN. And when he ordered twelve loaves to be set on the table, he denoted the year, as distinguished into so many months. By branching out the candlestick into seventy parts, he secretly intimated the Decani, or seventy divisions of the planets; and AS TO THE SEVEN LAMPS UPON THE CANDLESTICKS, THEY REFERRED TO THE COURSE OF THE PLANETS, OF WHICH THAT IS THE NUMBER. The veils, too, which were composed of four things, they declared the four elements; for the fine linen was proper to signify the earth, because the flax grows out of the earth; the purple signified the sea, because that color is dyed by the blood of a sea shell-fish; the blue is fit to signify the air; and the scarlet will naturally be an indication of fire. Now the vestment of the high priest being made of linen, signified the earth; the blue denoted the sky, being like lightning in its pomegranates, and in the noise of the bells resembling thunder.

"And for the ephod, it showed that God had made the universe of four elements; and as for the gold interwoven, I suppose it related to the splendor by which all things are enlightened. He also appointed the breastplate to be placed in the middle of the ephod, to resemble the earth, for that has the very middle place of the world. And the girdle which encompassed the high priest round, signified the ocean, for that goes round about and includes the universe. Each of the sardonyxes declares to us the sun and the moon; those, I mean, that were in the nature of buttons on the high priest's shoulders. And for the twelve stones, whether we understand by them the months, or whether we understand the like number of the signs of that circle which the Greeks call the Zodiac, we shall not be mistaken in their meaning. And for the mitre, which was of a blue color, it seems to me to mean heaven; for how otherwise could the name of God be inscribed upon it? That it was also illustrated with a crown, and that of gold also, is because of that splendor with which God is pleased. Let this explication suffice at present, since the course of my narration will often, and on many occasions, afford me the opportunity of enlarging upon the virtue of our legislator."

MY REPLY TO AN INCOMING EMAIL (omitted)

I have a different take on this.

Eze 10:6 says, "And it came to pass, that when he had commanded the man clothed with linen, saying, Take fire from between the wheels, from between the cherubims; then he went in, and stood beside the wheels."

The Hebrew translated "wheels" is galgal. To me, it means an orbit.

Eze 1:15 says, "Now as I beheld the living creatures (i.e., lively orbiting planets), behold one wheel (ophan, revolve, i.e., orbit) upon the EARTH by the living creatures, with his four faces."

Earth is one of the terrestrial planets, Mercury, Venus, Earth and Mars, that orbit in concentric circles around the Sun. Being globes, they face all four directions, and they orbit all four directions. The same faces were on the flags put at the compass points when Israel camped around the Tabernacle.

Satan's planet Rahab is now our Asteroid Belt, and Satan's asteroid Wormwood (Rev 8:11) will destroy Babylon (Rev 18:21). Wormwood now orbits between the terrestrial planets.

Eze 10:2 says, "Go in between the wheels (i.e., terrestrial planet orbits), even under the cherub (i.e., Satan), and fill thine hand with coals of fire from between the cherubims (i.e., the terrestrial planets), and scatter them over the city. And he went in in my sight."

Rev 8:6-11 says, "And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound. 7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up. 8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; 9 And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed. 10 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; 11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter."

The impact of the asteroid Wormwood will wipe out Babylon.

Rev 18:21 says, "And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all."

Isa 22:16-19 says, "What hast thou here? (i.e., Babylon) and whom hast thou here (i.e., the Satan-possessed False Prophet), that thou hast hewed thee out a sepulchre here, as he (i.e., Satan) that heweth him out a sepulchre on high, and that graveth an habitation for himself in a rock? (i.e., in Wormwood) 17 Behold, the LORD will carry thee away with a mighty captivity, and will surely cover thee. 18 He will surely violently turn and toss thee like a ball into a large country: there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord's house. 19 And I will drive thee from thy station, and from thy state shall he pull thee down."

Isa 51:9 says, "Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the LORD; awake, as in the ancient days, in the generations of old. Art thou not it that hath cut (chatsab, split, divided) Rahab, and wounded the dragon?"

Why did the Lord split Satan's planet Rahab?

Jud 1:6 explains. It says, "And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day."

These angels came to Earth and built settlements. They were wiped out in a catastrophe before Adam was created. At that time, the Lord dug the Moon out of the Pacific Basin. That is why the skies were dark in Genesis 1:2.

Gen 1:2 says, "And the earth was (lit., became) without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep."

Sea water not only spilled into the Black Sea, it sloshed over the tallest mountains. Limestone from the bottom of the sea now appears in the Himalayas.

I live about 30 miles from the Pacific Ocean. Granite ocean bottom was thrown even farther inland than this. Not only are granite rocks strewn everywhere, whole mountains are formed of them. Agape

MOSES AND ELIJAH WILL ARRIVE WHEN
WE ARE RAPTURED MID-TRIB

By Marilyn Agee

When Jesus ascended, there were two men with him, and he is to come in like manner. Two witnesses will come with him.

Act 1:9-11 says, "And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. 10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, TWO MEN (i.e., MOSES AND ELIJAH) STOOD BY THEM IN WHITE APPAREL; 11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven."

Jesus will bring Moses and Elijah with him when he takes us to heaven.

THE TRANSFIGURATION PICTURES THE MID-TRIB RAPTURE WHEN MOSES AND ELIJAH COME BACK

Mat 17:1-11 says, "And after six days (i.e., 6000 years) Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart, 2 And was transfigured before them: and HIS FACE DID SHINE AS THE SUN, AND HIS RAIMENT WAS WHITE as the light. 3 And, behold, there appeared unto them MOSES AND ELIAS talking with him. 4 Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias. 5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him. 6 And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face, and were sore afraid. 7 And Jesus came and touched them, and said, ARISE, and be not afraid. 8 And when they had lifted up their eyes, they saw no man, save Jesus only. 9 And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead. 10 And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come? 11 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things."

WHEN THE RAPTURE TAKES PLACE, HIS HEAD AND HIS HAIRS WILL BE WHITE

Rev 1:9-16 says, "I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. 10 I was (lit., became) in the Spirit on the Lord's day (i.e., the Day of Christ), and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, 11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega...12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; 13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. 14 HIS HEAD AND HIS HAIRS WERE WHITE LIKE WOOL, AS WHITE AS SNOW; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. 16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: AND HIS COUNTENANCE WAS AS THE SUN SHINETH IN HIS STRENGTH."

AT THE MID-TRI RAPTURE AND ARRIVAL OF MOSES AND ELIAH, THERE IS NO EARTHQUAKE

Rev 10:11 And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy AGAIN before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings."

Rev 11:1-3 says, "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, RISE (i.e., in the Mid-Trib Rapture), and measure the temple of God (we are the Temple of the Holy Spirit), and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days (i.e., during the Great Tribulation), clothed in sackcloth."

THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE IS WHEN MOSES AND ELIJAH ARRIVE; THE LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE IS WHEN MOSES AND ELIJAH ARE RESURRECTED, AND THERE IS A GREAT EARTHQUAKE

Rev 11:9-13 says, "And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves. 10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth. 11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. 12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, COME UP HITHER. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. 13 And the same hour was there a GREAT EARTHQUAKE, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven."

SINCE TABERNACLES WAS APPROACHING AT THE TIME OF THE TRANSFIGURATION, IT WILL PROBABLY BE APPROACHING AT THE TIME OF THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE

The first trump will be sounded on the Feast of Trumpets. This year, the sign in Rev 12 will be in the sky on the Feast of Trumpets. The Moon will be under Virgo's feet Oct. 3, 2016. I hope that will be when we will be caught up. If we are, Moses and Elijah will return then. They will get the literal Temple built after we, the Temple of the Holy Spirit, are gone.

A POST ON FIVE DOVES

John B (17 Sep 2016)
"To Eliane B. and Marilyn Agee......discussion on the two witnesses"

We see from scripture that John the Revelator appears to be present and Ezekiel also appears to be present on the world stage at that exact timeframe which leads me to believe that they are the two end time witnesses.

THE TWO OLIVE TREES, AND THE TWO CANDLESTICKS REPRESENT MOSES AND ELIJAH

Zec 4:11-14 says, "Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof? 12 And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves? 13 And he answered me and said, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord. 14 Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth."

MOSES AND ELIJAH STAND BY JESUS AT THE TRANSFIGURATION

MY REPLY

I read what Pastor Riley wrote, and I don't agree with him that John is one of the two witnesses. To me, they are Moses and Elijah because of their appearance at the Transfiguration. I think the Lord showed us who they are, and there is no higher authority. Agape

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