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Posted 12-5-16

INCOMING EMAIL, RE: THE NEXT BIG THING TO "WATCH" FOR

THE NEXT 'BIG THING' TO "WATCH" FOR COMING IN 2017......

The next 'big thing' to "watch" for coming in 2017 is the Gog-Magog War against Israel. It is God's War, 'lock, stock and barrel' because He initiates it , He determines how long it lasts, and He brings it to an end when it fits His purposes on His pre-APPONTED DATE of prophecy fulfillment according to HIS WILL . It is NOT Gog's choice of when to attack Israel, but IT IS GOD'S CHOICE of when Gog attacks Israel !

"Thy WILL BE DONE ON EARTH as it is in heaven"...... Lord's Prayer

Ezekiel 38:16
"it will be in the latter days that I WILL BRING YOU (Gog) AGAINST MY LAND (Israel)'

Ezekiel 38:17
"the prophets of Israel, who prophesied for years, in those days that I WILL BRING YOU (Gog) against them."

Hosea 5:7
"They (Israel) have dealt treacherously with the Lord...now a NEW MOON shall devour them (Israel).. "

"Watch" for this prophecy to be fulfilled on the APPOINTED DAY of the New Moon on Nisan 1, 5777 which begins God's 'Sacred Lunar Year' on the day of March 29-30, 2017 during this 50th 'Jubilee Year' generation since the APPOINTED DAY of the New Moon of June 7, 1967 which was the APPOINTED DAY on which God returned his holy city of Jerusalem to the possession of Israel after 2,000 years.

I believe 'THE APPOINTED DAY' OF THE NEW MOON on Nisan 1, 5777 March 29-30, 2017 will begin the 'Day of the Lord' in Israel, and the rapture of the Church will then follow TEN DAYS later (Rev 2:10) on the APPOINTED DAY of Nisan 10, 5777 which is the 'Day of Palms' on Saturday SABBATH April 7-8, 2017. Because we are NOT APPOINTED TO WRATH the 1,260 day-long great tribulation OF THE WHOLE WORLD will follow the rapture of the Church, and END with the Second Coming of the Lord on the APPOINTED DAY of the New Moon of Tishri 1, Feast of Trumpets on Saturday SABBATH , fully come, on September 19, 2020. Jesus is Lord of the SABBATH !

The great multitude in heaven, who is the raptured Church, are holding Palm branches in their hands for a reason !

I could be wrong, but I am not wrong yet. Come Lord Jesus!

MY REPLY

> > The next 'big thing' to "watch" for coming in 2017 is the Gog-Magog War against Israel.

To me, the next big thing is the Mid-Trib First-Trump Rapture of ITh 4:16-18. The Gog and Magog War comes at the end of the shortened Great Tribulation.

A BIG CLUE TO THE MID-TRIB RAPTURE HAS BEEN IN PLAIN SIGHT ALL ALONG, BUT I MISSED IT UNTIL NOW

I should have known that the First-Trump Rapture was Mid-Trib, simply because Michael the archangel comes Mid-Trib.

1Th 4:16-18 says, "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, WITH THE VOICE OF THE ARCHANGEL, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

ACCORDING TO JUDE 1:9, MICHAEL IS THE ARCHANGEL

Jud 1:9 says, "Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee."

ACCORDING TO REV 12:6-12, MICHAEL COMES MID-TRIB

Rev 12:6-12 says, "And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place (i.e., Petra) prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. 7 And there was war in heaven: MICHAEL and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, NOW (arti, just now, this day, i.e., Mid-Trib) IS COME SALVATION (soteria, rescue, deliverance, i.e., the First-Trump Rapture), and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12 Therefore REJOICE, YE HEAVENS, AND YE THAT DWELL IN THEM."

There will be war in heaven Mid-Trib. The wise virgins will dwell in Heaven on the Mid-Trib Day of Christ.

Php_1:10 says, "That ye may approve things that are excellent; that ye may be sincere and without offence till the day of Christ"

Php_2:16 says, "Holding forth the word of life; that I may rejoice in the day of Christ, that I have not run in vain, neither laboured in vain."

"WE MUST THROUGH MUCH TRIBULATION ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD"

Act_14:22 says, "Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God."

DAY OF THE LORD, THE POST-TRIB RAPTURE, WAR ON EARTH WHEN GOG ATTACKS ISRAEL

There will be war on Earth at the end of the shortened Great Tribulation. The foolish virgins will be caught up to Heaven on the Day of the Lord at the end of the shortened Great Tribulation.

Joe_1:15 says, "Alas for the day! for the day of the LORD is at hand, and as a destruction from the Almighty shall it come."

Joe_2:31 says, "The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come."

Rev 6:12,13 says, "And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind."

Rev 6:17 says, "For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?"

If the last group to be raptured come out of "great tribulation", the first group comes out of the first half of the tribulation.

Rev 7:14,15 says, "And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them."

Eze_13:5 says, "Ye have not gone up into the gaps, neither made up the hedge for the house of Israel to stand in the battle in the day of the LORD."

Eze 38:18-23 says, "And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that my fury shall come up in my face. 19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of MY WRATH have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel; 20 So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake AT MY PRESENCE, and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground. 21 And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord GOD: every man's sword shall be against his brother. 22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone. 23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD."

Zep_2:2,3 says, "Before the decree bring forth, before the day pass as the chaff, before the fierce anger of the LORD come upon you, before the day of the LORD'S anger come upon you. 3 Seek ye the LORD, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be ye shall be hid in the day of the LORD'S anger."

THE TRANSFIGURATION SHOWED THAT MOSES AND ELIJAH WILL COME AT THE TIME OF THE MID-TRIB RAPTURE

Mat 17:1-7 says, "And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart, 2 And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light. 3 And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him. 4 Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias. 5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him. 6 And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face, and were sore afraid. 7 And Jesus came and touched them, and said, Arise, and be not afraid."

Mal_4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD".

Rev 11:1-3 says, "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, RISE (i.e., in the First-Trump Rapture), and measure the temple of God (i.e., we are the temple of the Holy Spirit), and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth."

THE TWO WITNESSES, MOSES AND ELIJAH, WILL BE CAUGHT UP TO HEAVEN ON THE DAY OF THE LORD, THE DAY OF THE GREAT EARTHQUAKE

Rev 11:11-13 says, "And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. 12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, COME UP HITHER. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. 13 And the same hour was there a GREAT EARTHQUAKE, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven."

2Pe_3:10 says, "But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up."

> > Hosea 5:7
> > "They (Israel) have dealt treacherously with the Lord...now a NEW MOON shall devour them (Israel).. "

I think the Day of the Lord will come on the new Moon of Tishri, the Feast of Trumpets that ushers in the Kingdom of Christ.

2Pe_3:10 says, "But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up."

THE SECOND RAPTURE WILL COME ON THE FEAST OF TRUMPETS THAT BEGINS THE DAY OF THE LORD

Joe 2:15-21 says, "Blow the trumpet in Zion, sanctify a fast, call a solemn assembly: 16 Gather the people, sanctify the congregation, assemble the elders, gather the children, and those that suck the breasts: let the bridegroom go forth of his chamber, and the bride out of her closet. 17 Let the priests, the ministers of the LORD, weep between the porch and the altar, and let them say, Spare thy people, O LORD, and give not thine heritage to reproach, that the heathen should rule over them: wherefore should they say among the people, Where is their God? 18 Then will the LORD be jealous for his land, and pity his people. 19 Yea, the LORD will answer and say unto his people, Behold, I will send you corn, and wine, and oil, and ye shall be satisfied therewith: and I will no more make you a reproach among the heathen: 20 But I will remove far off from you the northern army, and will drive him into a land barren and desolate, with his face toward the east sea, and his hinder part toward the utmost sea, and his stink shall come up, and his ill savour shall come up, because he hath done great things. 21 Fear not, O land; be glad and rejoice: for the LORD will do great things.

The Feast of Trumpets was the beginning of this world when Adam was created. I think it will also be the beginning of the Millennium. The Lord will blow the trumpet on the anniversary of the day Adam was created. Moses and Elijah will probably be the two witnesses who sight the new Moon.

Zec 9:14-16 says, "And the LORD shall be seen over them, and his arrow shall go forth as the lightning: and the Lord GOD shall blow the trumpet, and shall go with whirlwinds of the south. 15 The LORD of hosts shall defend them; and they shall devour, and subdue with sling stones; and they shall drink, and make a noise as through wine; and they shall be filled like bowls, and as the corners of the altar. 16 And the LORD their God shall save them in that day as the flock of his people: for they shall be as the stones of a crown, lifted up as an ensign upon his land."

> > I believe 'THE APPOINTED DAY' OF THE NEW MOON on Nisan 1, 5777 March 29-30, 2017 will begin the 'Day of the Lord' in Israel, and the rapture of the Church will then follow TEN DAYS later (Rev 2:10) on the APPOINTED DAY of Nisan 10, 5777 which is the 'Day of Palms' on Saturday SABBATH April 7-8, 2017.

> > Because we are NOT APPOINTED TO WRATH the 1,260 day-long great tribulation OF THE WHOLE WORLD will follow the rapture of the Church, and END with the Second Coming of the Lord on the APPOINTED DAY of the New Moon of Tishri 1, Feast of Trumpets on Saturday SABBATH , fully come, on September 19, 2020. Jesus is Lord of the SABBATH !

I think the great and terrible Day of the Lord will come at the end of the shortened Great Tribulation, which will follow the Mid-Trib Rapture.

Mat_24:22 says, "And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened."

Mar_13:20 says, "And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days." Agape

MID-TRIB RAPTURE

By Marilyn Agee

"In 1 Thessalonians 4:13-5:11, Paul does not give any indication of the timing of the Parousia of Christ. One knows what will happen, but nothing about when it will happen."
http://www.apocalypsesoon.org/trib.html

To me, Paul did indicate the timing.

THE TIMING OF THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE IS MID-TRIB, BECAUSE MICHAEL THE ARCHANGEL APPEARS MID-TRIB

1Th 4:16 tells us that the voice of the archangel will be heard at the time of the First-Trump Rapture.

1Th 4:16,17 says, "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of THE ARCHANGEL, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."

Jud 1:9 tells us that Michael is the archangel, and Rev 12 tells us that he comes to Earth Mid-Trib.

Jud 1:9 says, "Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee."

"NOW (i.e., MID-TRIB) IS COME SALVATION"

Rev 12:6-10 says, "And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days (i.e., during the Great Tribulation). 7 And there was war in heaven: MICHAEL and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, NOW (arti, just now) IS COME SALVATION (soteria, deliverance, rescue, i.e., the First-Trump Rapture) and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night."

The article also said, "The Rapture initiates the Day of the Lord, which is the wrath of God against the wicked.

"THE RAPTURE IN REVELATION 6:1-17, 7:9-17"

That is the second Rapture. There are two "COME UP HITHER"s, one Mid-Trib and the other Post-Trib. Moses and Elijah come at the first Rapture and are caught up to Heaven

ARE THE TWO WITNESSES HERE NOW?

By Marilyn Agee

Steven Ben-DeNoon thinks the two witnesses are here somewhere, and that the Rapture will be on the Feast of Trumpets 10 days before the Second Advent.

Steven Ben-DeNoon, Israeli News Live
http://www.revelationunderstoodcommentary.com/rapture-on-the-feast-of-trumpets-10-days-before-2nd-advent.html

I think the two witnesses will come at the time of the Mid-Trib Rapture on Pentecost, and be caught up on the Day of the Lord at the end of the shortened Great Tribulation. That will be the day of the "great earthquake".

Rev 11:1-3 says, "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, RISE (i.e., in the Mid-Trib Rapture), and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months (i.e., during the Great Tribulation). 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses (i.e., Moses and Elijah), and they SHALL prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth."

Mal_4:5 says, "Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD".

Moses and Elijah are killed three and a half days before the great earthquake.

Rev 11:11-13 says, "And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. 12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, COME UP HITHER. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. 13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven."

Joe_1:15 says, "Alas for the day! for the day of the LORD is at hand, and as a destruction from the Almighty shall it come."

2Pe_3:10 says, "But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up."

Isa_51:9 says, "Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the LORD; awake, as in the ancient days, in the generations of old. Art thou not it that hath cut (chatsab, split, divided) Rahab, and wounded the dragon?"

Psa 89:10 says, "Thou hast broken Rahab (i.e., the original 5th planet) in pieces (i.e., it is now our Asteroid Belt), as one that is slain; thou hast scattered thine enemies (i.e., Satan and his wicked angels) with thy strong arm."

Isa 22:16-19 says, "What hast thou here? (i.e., Babylon) and whom hast thou here (i.e., the Satan-possessed False Prophet), that thou hast hewed thee out a sepulchre here, as he (i.e., Satan) that heweth him out a sepulchre on high, and that graveth an habitation for himself in a rock (i.e., in the asteroid Wormwood)? 17 Behold, the LORD will carry thee away with a mighty captivity, and will surely cover thee. 18 He will surely violently turn and toss thee like a ball into a large country: there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord's house. 19 And I will drive thee from thy station, and from thy state shall he pull thee down."

Rev 8:10,11 says, "And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star (Gr. aster) from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; 11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter."

Rev 18:21 says, "And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all."

2Pe 3:5-7 says, "For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: 7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men."

2Pe 3:10-13 says' "But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise' and the elements shall melt with fervent heat' the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved' what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness' 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God' wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved' and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we' according to his promise' look for new heavens and a new earth' wherein dwelleth righteousness."

It looks like the asteroid Wormwood will come in over Russia like the meteorite came in over Chelyabinsk Feb. 15, 2013.

Eze 39:6 says, "And I will send a fire on Magog, and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I am the LORD."

Isa_14:31 says' "Howl' O gate; cry' O city; thou' whole Palestina' art dissolved: for there shall come from the north a smoke' and none shall be alone in his appointed times."

It looks like a chunk will break off Wormwood at the Roche Limit and hit the NE Mediterranean Sea.

Eze 38:18-23 says, "And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that my fury shall come up in my face. 19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel; 20 So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence, and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground. 21 And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord GOD: every man's sword shall be against his brother. 22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone. 23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD."

Eze 39:22 says, "So the house of Israel shall know that I am the LORD their God from that day and forward."

AT THE TIME OF THE RAPTURE, THE RAIN IS OVER AND GONE

Jas 5:7-9 says, "Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain. 8 Be ye also patient; stablish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh. 9 Grudge not one against another, brethren, lest ye be condemned: behold, the judge standeth before the door."

The early rain comes Tishri 1. The latter rain comes Nisan 1.

AT THE TIME OF THE RAPTURE, "THE RAIN IS OVER AND GONE"

Son 2:10-15 says, "My beloved spake, and said unto me, Rise up, my love, my fair one, and come away. 11 For, lo, the winter is past, THE RAIN IS OVER AND GONE; 12 The flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle is heard in our land; 13 The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell. Arise, my love, my fair one, and come away. 14 O my dove, that art in the clefts of the rock, in the secret places of the stairs, let me see thy countenance, let me hear thy voice; for sweet is thy voice, and thy countenance is comely. 15 Take us the foxes, the little foxes, that spoil the vines: for our vines have tender grapes."

The fig tree grows leaves in early June. There are tender grapes at Pentecost.

MY OUTGOING EMAIL

THE REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST IS WRITTEN AS IF THE RAPTURE IS AT HAND

Rev 1:3 says, "Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand."

Rev 22:6 says, "These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done."

Rev 22:10,11 says, "Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. 11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches".

"YE SHALL HAVE TRIBULATION TEN DAYS" SHOWS US HOW CLOSE THE RAPTURE IS IN THIS ACCOUNT

Rev 2:10,11 says, "Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life. 11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death."

Rev 2:22 says to the church of Thyatira, 'Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds."

Therefore, the time is probably ten days before Mid-Trib, when the Great Tribulation begins and the False Prophet takes command.

Thus, the First-Trump Rapture of Rev 4:1 could take place ten days before Mid-Trib.

That would fit Rev 13:5-11. It says, "And there was given unto him (i.e., Antichrist) a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months (i.e., during the first half of the Tribulation). 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and THEM THAT DWELL IN HEAVEN (i.e., the wise-virgin saints just caught up). 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints (i.e., the foolish-virgin saints left behind), and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9 If any man have an ear, let him hear. 10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints. 11 And I beheld another beast (i.e., the Satan-possessed False Prophet) coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon."

INCOMING EMAIL

c But I am not convinced that Rev 4:1 is describing the rapture of any part the church. I believe Rev 4:1 is describing only John's being "in the spirit" when he taken to heaven to be revealed to and instructed on what to write in the Book of Revelation for us to be educated.

MY REPLY

Thanks.

> > I am not convinced that Rev 4:1 is describing the rapture of any part the church. I believe Rev 4:1 is describing only John's being "in the spirit" when he taken to heaven to be revealed to and instructed on what to write in the Book of Revelation for us to be educated.

Then when do you think the first Rapture is introduced?

I am convinced that Rev 4:1 is describing the First-Trump Rapture, because afterward, all 24 elders are seated on thrones in Heaven, and John is actually just one of the elders.

Rev 4:4 says, "And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.

Num 10:4 says, "And if they blow but with one trumpet, then the princes, which are heads of the thousands of Israel, shall gather themselves unto thee."

I am also convinced, because Rev 10:17 says, "Thou must prophesy AGAIN before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings."

Immediately after that, John wrote of the Mid-Trib first Rapture AGAIN.

Rev 11:1-3 says, "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, RISE (i.e., in the Mid-Trib First-Trump Rapture), and measure the temple of God (i.e., we are the temple of the Holy Spirit), and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses (i.e., Moses and Elijah), and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days (i.e., during the Great Tribulation), clothed in sackcloth."

There is no earthquake at the time of the First-Trump Rapture.

There is a great earthquake at the time of the Last-Trump Rapture.

Rev 11:9-14 says, "And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their (i.e., Moses and Elijah's) dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves. 10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth. 11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. 12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, COME UP HITHER. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. 13 And the same hour was there a GREAT EARTHQUAKE, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven. 14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly."

The great earthquake comes at the sixth seal, when the Day of God's Wrath comes.

Rev 6:12-17 says, "And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a GREAT EARTHQUAKE; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. 14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17 For the great DAY OF HIS WRATH is come; and who shall be able to stand?"

Isa 29:6,7 says, "Thou shalt be visited of the LORD of hosts with thunder, and with EARTHQUAKE, and great noise, with storm and tempest, and the flame of devouring fire. 7 And the multitude of all the nations that fight against Ariel, even all that fight against her and her munition, and that distress her, shall be as a dream of a night vision."

Satan's asteroid Wormwood will impact Earth that day.

Isa 22:16-19 says, "What hast thou here? (i.e., Babylon) and whom hast thou here (i.e., the Satan-possessed False Prophet), that thou hast hewed thee out a sepulchre here, as he (i.e., Satan) that heweth him out a sepulchre on high, and that graveth an habitation for himself in a rock? 17 Behold, the LORD will carry thee away with a mighty captivity, and will surely cover thee. 18 He will surely violently turn and toss thee like a ball into a large country: there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord's house. 19 And I will drive thee from thy station, and from thy state shall he pull thee down."

Rev 18:21 says, "And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all." Agape

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