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Posted 12-9-16

THE APPEARANCE OF SIRIUS MAY HAVE SET THE CALENDAR FOR THE ANGELIC CIVILIZATION AS WELL AS FOR EGYPT

"Sirius, considered by the ancient Egyptians to be the most important star in the sky, was astronomically the foundation of their entire religious system. Its celestial movements determined the Egyptian calendar ... Sirius's heliacal rising (when Sirius again rose into visibility after being hidden by the sun's light for 70 days) marked the beginning of the Egyptian year and roughly coincided with the flooding of the Nile - major events marked by feasting and celebration." http://mirrorh.com/timeline2.html

INTERESTING FIND DATING BACK BEFORE ADAM WAS CREATED ABOUT 4000 BC

CAIRO, Egypt - "Archaeologists have uncovered an ancient Egyptian city and graveyard dating back to around 5300 BC, the antiquities ministry said on Wednesday.

"The city and cemetery - likely home to senior functionaries and grave builders - was discovered about 400 meters (1300 feet) from the Temple of Seti I in the ancient city of Abydos in southern Egypt, said antiquities minister Mahmoud Afifi.

"It is believed to date back to 5316 BC.

"Excavators found huts, pottery and stone instruments, Afifi said."
http://www.timesofisrael.com/ancient-city-uncovered-in-egypt/

"They also discovered 15 large graves"
http://www.newindianexpress.com/world/2016/nov/24/ancient-city-dating-back-to-5300-bc-uncovered-in-egypt-1542126.html

MY REPLY

The year 5316 BC is before Adam was created. Therefore, that city was built by the wicked angels that left their own habitation and came to Earth.

Jud 1:6 says, "And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day."

INCOMING EMAIL, RE: THE 'DAY OF THE LORD' BEGINS WHEN

THE 'DAY OF THE LORD' BEGINS WHEN THE RUSSIAN/IRANIAN MILITARY COALITION ATTACKS ISRAEL IN THE NEAR FUTURE

The 'Day of the Lord' will begin when the Russian/Iranian military coalition, known as Gog/Magog, attacks Israel BY ORDER FROM GOD, Himself, according to Scripture : (if you believe them as I do)

Ezekiel 38:16
"It will be in the latter days that I WILL BRING YOU against MY LAND (Israel)..."

Ezekiel 38:18-20
"And it will come to pass, AT THE SAME TIME, when GOG COMES AGAINST the LAND OF ISRAEL , says the Lord God,.......and in the fire of MY WRATH I have spoken. IN THAT DAY there shall be A GREAT EARTHQUAKE in the LAND OF ISRAEL.....The earth shall shake AT MY PRESENCE."

Luke 21:22-23
"For these are the days of (God's) VENGEANCE, that all things which are written may be fulfilled......For there will be GREAT TRIBULATION in the LAND (of Israel), and (God's) WRATH upon THIS PEOPLE (of Israel)."

The great tribulation begins FIRST in Israel, and it is "THE SIGN" of our pending rapture soon to come BEFORE the great tribulation then spreads to the WHOLE WORLD AFTER the rapture which makes the following Scripture understandable :

Revelation 7:14-15
"These are the ones WHO COME OUT OF THE GREAT TRIBULATION , and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Therefore they are before the throne of God....."

This Scripture is referring back to the "great multitude" who are in heaven "before the throne and before the Lamb" "with Palm branches in their hands" as described in Revelation 7:9

Why do they have Palm branches in their hands ?

Come Lord Jesus !!!

MY REPLY

> > THE 'DAY OF THE LORD' BEGINS WHEN THE RUSSIAN/IRANIAN MILITARY COALITION ATTACKS ISRAEL IN THE NEAR FUTURE

I can agree with that.

ALL THINGS ARE FORETOLD

In Mar 13;23-27, Jesus said, "But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things. 24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, 25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. 26 And then (tote, at that time) shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. 27 And then (tote, at that time) shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth (i.e., in the Last Rapture) to the uttermost part of heaven."

Jas 5:7 Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain."

The early rain comes Tishri 1, and the latter rain comes Nisan 1.

Hos 6:2,3 says, "After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight. 3 Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth."

Eze 38:18-23 says, "And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that my fury shall come up in my face."

HOWEVER, I DON'T THINK WE WILL BE HERE THEN

2Pe_3:10 says, "But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up."

1Th 5:-5 says, "But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. 2 For yourselves know perfectly that the DAY OF THE LORD so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. 4 BUT YE, BRETHREN, ARE NOT IN DARKNESS, THAT THAT DAY SHOULD OVERTAKE YOU AS A THIEF. 5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness." Agape

INCOMING EMAIL, RE: LAST BIG PROPHECY WAS FULFILLED ON A NEW MOON

THE LAST BIG PROPHECY WAS FULFILLED ON THE DAY OF A NEW MOON.....

The last BIG PROPHECY FULFILLED ,which was the prophetic return of God's holy City of Jerusalem to the possession of Israel, happened on June 7, 1967 which was also the day of A NEW MOON according to :

Colossians 2:16-17
"in regard to a holy feast day, or A NEW MOON, or the Sabbath days, which are a SHADOW OF THINGS TO COME, but the body of of Christ."

The NEW MOON which BEGINS God's 'Sacred Liturgical Year', also known as God's 'Ecclesiastical New Year', will occur on the day of Nisan 1, 5777. That date is also March 29-30, 2017.

If you are an alert "WATCHING" Christian you should be expecting the NEXT BIG PROPHECY to be prophetically fulfilled on that very day of the NEW MOON !

I could be wrong, but I am not wrong yet .

MY REPLY

> > The last BIG PROPHECY FULFILLED, which was the prophetic return of God's holy City of Jerusalem to the possession of Israel, happened on June 7, 1967 which was also the day of A NEW MOON according to :

> > Colossians 2:16-17
"in regard to a holy feast day, or A NEW MOON, or the Sabbath days, which are a SHADOW OF THINGS TO COME, but the body of of Christ."

According to the Hebrew Calendar, the day they took the Temple Mount was not the new moon.

"Wed, 7 June 1967 = 28th of Iyyar, 5727"
http://www.hebcal.com/converter/?gd=7&gm=6&gy=1967&g2h=1

MY THOUGHTS

In Mark 13:23, Jesus said, "I have foretold you all things." That includes the timing of the Rapture.

Some people say that no one knows the day or hour of the Rapture, but Mat 24:35,36 says, "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. 36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only." That is not talking about the Rapture.

Rev. 3:3 says, "Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee."

WATCHING MAKES THE DIFFERENCE

The feast days are appointments, dress rehearsals, shadows of things to come.

Gen 1:14 says, "And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs (oth, signals in the sense of appearing), and for seasons (moed, appointments), and for days, and years".

THERE ARE THREE RAPTURES, AND THEY PROBABLY WILL COME ON FEAST DAYS

The first was on Firstfruits in 30 AD. The next might be on the next feast, Pentecost, and the last on Tabernacles. Good clues: the Israelites were to go up to Jerusalem on those three feast days.

Deu 16:16 says, "Three times in a year shall all thy males appear before the LORD thy God in the place which he shall choose; in the feast of unleavened bread, and in the feast of weeks, and in the feast of tabernacles".

In "The Mystery of Pentecost," Gary Stearman wrote, "Better than any other ancient Jewish festival, it embodies the elements that we associate with the catching-away, or rapture, of the church.... Today’s Jews celebrate it annually, in a ceremony called, 'decorating the bride.' This reminds us of the church, the 'bride of Christ.'

"In his book, Number in Scripture, E. W. Bullinger writes, "Fifty is the number of jubilee or deliverance."

Pentecost, when Israel was to go up to Jerusalem, is the 50th day of the countdown of the Omer. The year 2017 is 50 years after Israel took the Temple Mount in the Six-Day War. Is 2017 the year of our deliverance?

The first Rapture was on the first day of the omer. Maybe the second Rapture will be on the 50th day of the omer in the 50th year since Israel took the Temple Mount.

Enoch was the first to be caught up to Heaven.

Gen 5:24 says, "Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him."

There is a rabbinical tradition that Enoch was born on Sivan 6 and was caught up to heaven on Sivan 6. (Ginzberg, Legends of the Jews 1:137)

Like Enoch (which means dedicated, trained), the Church was born on Sivan 6. Maybe it will be caught up to heaven on Sivan 6.

AS IN THE DAYS OF NOAH

Mat 24:37 says, "But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be."

Noah went into the Ark on Iyar 17, then it rained 40 days. The Ark could have floated free of the ground on Pentecost. No other feast day falls within that 40-day period.

FIRST OF THREE RAPTURES, FEAST OF FIRSTFRUITS, 30 AD, OT SAINTS CAUGHT UP TO HEAVEN

Isa 26:19 says, "Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead."

Eph_4:8-10 says, "Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. 9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? 10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)"

When Jesus was announcing the coming Jubilee Year, he read, "The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound; 2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD". (Isa 61:1,2)

Psa 68:18 says, "Thou hast ascended on high, thou hast led captivity captive: thou hast received gifts for men; yea, for the rebellious also, that the LORD God might dwell among them."

1Pe 3:18-20 says, "Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: 19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; 20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water."

The trip to Paradise (the third Heaven, 2Cor 12:1-4) was quick. To the thief on the cross, Jesus said, "To day shalt thou be with me in paradise." (Luk 23:43)

"ABRAHAM'S BOSOM"

Luk 16:22-26 says, "And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; 23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. 25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. 26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence."

PENTECOST, FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE, MID-TRIB

1Th 4:16,17 says, "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel (i.e., Michael, who comes Mid-Trib, Rev 12, Dan 12:1), and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."

FEAST OF TABERNACLES, LAST-TRUMP RAPTURE, POST-TRIB

1Co 15:51-54 says, "Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory."

Psa 47:5-9 says, "God is gone up with a shout, the LORD with the sound of a trumpet. 6 Sing praises to God, sing praises: sing praises unto our King, sing praises. 7 For God is the King of all the earth: sing ye praises with understanding. 8 God reigneth over the heathen: God sitteth upon the throne of his holiness. 9 The princes of the people are gathered together, even the people of the God of Abraham".

Joe 2:15,16 says, "Blow the trumpet in Zion, sanctify a fast, call a solemn assembly: 16 Gather the people, sanctify the congregation, assemble the elders, gather the children, and those that suck the breasts: let the bridegroom go forth of his chamber, and the bride out of her closet (chuppah, canopy, a roof or covering for the bride and groom at their wedding)."

Jer 30:7 Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it."

"SHAVUOT, APPOINTED FOR THE HARVEST"

Long ago, Dr. Tabor wrote me and said, "I am sure you have looked at Jeremiah 5:24 before. There we have reference to our former and latter rains--and how they come in their proper TIME, but also we read: 'and he keeps for us Shavuot, appointed for the harvest.'"

Jer 5:24 says, "Neither say they in their heart, Let us now fear the LORD our God, that giveth rain, both the former and the latter, in his season: he reserveth unto us the appointed weeks of the harvest."

Jesus came on Tishri 1 as the former rain. He will return on Nisan 1 as the latter rain.

Pentecost and Tabernacles probably are "the appointed weeks of the harvest". The Israelites were to go up to Jerusalem on Passover, Pentecost and Tabernacles.

Col 2:16,17 says, "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

That does not tell us what happens on that new moon. It could be talking about the new moon of Tishri 1, the Feast of Trumpets.

However, the feast days are shadows of things to come, and Song of Solomon 2:10-17 points to Pentecost. It cannot be talking about any date in Nisan, because it says, "the rain is over and gone".

The resurrection of the Old Testament saints, the first Rapture, was on Resurrection Day, Sunday, Nisan 16, 3790, April 9, 30 AD.

Isa 26:19 says, "Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise."

I THINK THE RAPTURE WILL BE ON A FEAST DAY

Isa_30:29 says, "Ye shall have a song, as in the night when a holy solemnity is kept; and gladness of heart, as when one goeth with a pipe to come into the mountain of the LORD, to the mighty One of Israel."

I believe Song of Solomon and Isaiah 18 show us that the second Rapture will be on Pentecost.

Son 2:10-13 says, "My beloved spake, and said unto me, Rise up, my love, my fair one, and come away. 11 For, lo, the winter is past, the rain (i.e., of Nisan) is over and gone; 12 The flowers appear on the earth (i.e., April showers bring May flowers); the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle (lit., turtledove) is heard in our land (i.e., they come in April and leave in October); 13 The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell (i.e., in early June). Arise, my love, my fair one, and come away."

Isa 18:3-7 says, "All ye inhabitants of the world, and dwellers on the earth, see ye, when he lifteth up an ensign (i.e., the UN flag) on the mountains (i.e., kingdoms); and when he bloweth a trumpet, hear ye. 4 For so the LORD said unto me, I will take my rest, and I will consider in my dwelling place like a clear heat upon herbs, and like a cloud of dew in the heat of harvest. 5 For afore the harvest, when the bud is perfect, and the sour grape is ripening in the flower, he shall both cut off the sprigs with pruning hooks, and take away and cut down the branches. 6 They shall be left together unto the fowls of the mountains, and to the beasts of the earth: and the fowls shall summer upon them, and all the beasts of the earth shall winter upon them. 7 In that time shall the present be brought unto the LORD of hosts of a people scattered and peeled, and from a people terrible from their beginning hitherto; a nation meted out and trodden under foot, whose land the rivers have spoiled, to the place of the name of the LORD of hosts, the mount Zion."

The trumpet is blown on the first day of each month and on Feast days, not necessarily on Nisan 10.

Num 10:10 says, "Also in the day of your gladness, and in your solemn days, and in the beginnings of your months, ye shall blow with the trumpets".

The first Rapture was on Firstfruits. The second Rapture will be on the Day of Christ. The third Rapture will be on the Day of the Lord, the day of Jacob's trouble.

Jer 30:7 says, "Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it."

Psalms 27:5 says, "For in the day of trouble He will conceal me in His tabernacle; In the secret place of His tent He will hide me; He will lift me up on a rock."

Mal_4:5 says, "Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD".

Moses and Elijah come at the time of the Mid-Trib Rapture.

Zephaniah 2:2-4says, "Before the decree bring forth, before the day pass as the chaff, before the fierce anger of the LORD come upon you, before the day of the LORD'S anger come upon you. 3 Seek ye the LORD, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be ye shall be hid in the day of the LORD'S anger. 4 For Gaza shall be forsaken, and Ashkelon a desolation: they shall drive out Ashdod at the noon day, and Ekron shall be rooted up."

The Hebrew word for feast is mow'ed, which means: "to keep an appointment" or "appointed times." The feasts are dress rehearsals.

Israelites were to go up to Jerusalem on Passover, Pentecost and Tabernacles.

THE THREE RAPTURES

The Rapture of the OT saints was on Firstfruits, Nisan 16, 30 AD. The Rapture of the wise-virgins could be on Pentecost, the day after Omer 49. The Rapture of the two witnesses, Moses and Elijah, could be on Tabernacles.

It takes two witnesses to set the day of Tishri 1. Moses and Elijah are two witnesses, and they will be present on Earth during the shortened Great Tribulation.

Exo 23:14-17 says, "Three times thou shalt keep a feast unto me in the year. 15 Thou shalt keep the feast of unleavened bread: (thou shalt eat unleavened bread seven days, as I commanded thee, in the time appointed of the month Abib; for in it thou camest out from Egypt: and none shall appear before me empty:) 16 And the feast of harvest, the firstfruits of thy labours, which thou hast sown in the field: and the feast of ingathering, which is in the end of the year, when thou hast gathered in thy labours out of the field. 17 Three times in the year all thy males shall appear before the Lord GOD."

WE ARE WHEAT

Mat_13:30 says, "Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the WHEAT into my barn."

WHEAT CAN'T BE HARVESTED UNTIL AFTER THE BARLEY IS HARVESTED ON FIRSTFRUITS, NISAN 16

Therefore, to me, Nisan 10 won't work for the Rapture. The lamb chosen on Nisan 10 represented Christ. He was chosen on Nisan 10 and crucified on Thursday, Nisan 13.

PENTECOST IS "THE FIRSTFRUITS OF WHEAT HARVEST"

Exo 34:22-24 (KJV) says, "And thou shalt observe the feast of weeks, of the firstfruits of wheat harvest, and the feast of ingathering at the year's end. 23 Thrice in the year shall all your men children appear before the Lord GOD, the God of Israel. 24 For I will cast out the nations before thee, and enlarge thy borders: neither shall any man desire thy land, when thou shalt go up to appear before the LORD thy God thrice in the year."

Ex 34:22 (New Living Translation) says, "You must celebrate the Festival of Harvest with the first crop of the wheat harvest, and celebrate the Festival of the Final Harvest at the end of the harvest season."

ISRAEL DWELLS ON BOOTHS ON TABERNACLES

Lev 23:42,43 says, "Ye shall dwell in booths seven days; all that are Israelites born shall dwell in booths: 43 That your generations may know that I made the children of Israel to dwell in booths, when I brought them out of the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God."

Moses and Elijah come back at the time of the Mid-Trib Rapture, probably on Pentecost.

Of Pentecost, Lev 23:17 says, "Ye shall BRING OUT OF YOUR HABITATIONS two wave loaves of two tenth deals: they shall be of fine flour; they shall be baken with leaven; they are the firstfruits unto the Lord."

WE ARE FIRSTFRUITS

Jas 1:18 says, "Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures."

THREE RAPTURES, THREE TIMES "ALL THY MALES APPEAR BEFORE THE LORD"

Deu_16:16 says, "Three times in a year shall all thy males appear before the LORD thy God in the place which he shall choose; in the feast of unleavened bread, and in the feast of weeks, and in the feast of tabernacles".

"THE SECRETS OF ENOCH"

"The book called "The Secrets of Enoch" in this collection is where I found the reference to Enoch being born on Sivan 6 and being taken into heaven alive on Sivan 6, which is the same day as Pentecost. It's in the 68th chapter of the Secrets of Enoch, which is the last chapter.

"Secrets of Enoch
Chapter 68

"Enoch was born on the sixth day of the month Tsivan, and lived three hundred and sixty-five years.
2. He was taken up to heaven on the first day of the month Tsivan and remained in heaven sixty days.
3. He wrote all these signs of all creation, which the Lord created, and wrote three hundred and sixty-six books, and handed them over to his sons and remained on earth thirty days, and was again taken up to heaven on the sixth day of the month Tsivan, on the very day and hour when he was born." http://pub48.bravenet.com/forum/static/show.php?usernum=4086901292&frmid=13&msgid=954627&cmd=show

CONCLUSION

In the First Resurrection, there are three Raptures, of "barley" on Firstfruits in 30 AD, of "wheat" and "firstripe grapes" on Pentecost at Mid-Trib, and of fully ripe grapes on Tabernacles at the end of the Great Tribulation. Agape

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