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Posted 1-10-16

INCOMING EMAIL, Re: Could there be 3 Raptures

Shalom!
I agree with you that we should keep the Feast of Passover according to the bible as Jesus did (Mat 26:18) and eat our Pesach Lamb (Holy Supper) on the eve of the 13th of Nisan after sunset, the beginning of Nisan 14th.
The Jews eat their meal (Seder) nowadays on the 15th, a night later than Jesus did. How it was in NT times I could not find till now. Interesting is that John called the feast Jewish Passover and not Lord's Passover (John2:13+6:4). The Jews have moved the feast of Passover and made it one with the feast of unleavened bread (Luke 22:1). But the preparation day refers to a Sabbath and Nisan 14 is and was no biblical Sabbath. You can google the 13th, 14th,15th and 17th of Nisan and hopefully discover your error of 13th Nisan as Crucifixion day. The first believers in Asia Minor kept the 14th and 17th of Nisan as their Passover, not removing one day and where heavily persecuted (Quartodeciman). John 19:31 It was the preparation (14th) for the high Sabbath day, which refers to the 1. day of unleavened bread (15th) Lev 23:6+7
The Chamutz is burned on the 14th of Nisan 9.35 am in my calendar (Luach Zion Jerushalaim), why should it be different in 30 CE?
Mat 28:1 says in the end of the Sabbath, as it began to dawn to...Clear is the Sabbath ends Saturday, when the new day begins. This is not Sunday morning.The word dawn therefore means here the beginning of the new day. This is at twilight. Greek epiphosko, the same as in Luke 23:54: "and that day was the preparation, when the Sabbath drew on (epiphosko).
Nisan the 9th Jesus was in Jericho and traveled Friday to Bethany. Jack Missler comes to the same conclusion (focusonjerusalem.com/thedayJesusdied.html).

I believe the Rapture is after the Tribulation (Mat 24:29-31). I think the only way to find the timing of the Rapture is through the First Resurrection, because Paul said,that the dead will rise first and together with the living be raptured. Further he said, that all will be changed in a twinkling of an eye. That proofs one Rapture together with the First Resurrection. The Bible says that this resurrection is after the Great Tribulation (Rev 20:4+5). The word protos means main or first of two, that happens 1000 years later. 1. Cor 15:23 tells us that is happens when the Lord comes at His Revelation.

MY REPLY

Shalom!
> > the preparation day refers to a Sabbath and Nisan 14 is and was no biblical Sabbath.

Preparation Day (Crucifixion Day) was Nisan 13, which was not a Sabbath.
Passover, Nisan 14 was "an high day", an annual Sabbath.

Joh 19:31 says, "The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away."

> > You can google the 13th, 14th,15th and 17th of Nisan and hopefully discover your error of 13th Nisan as Crucifixion day.

I have already done extensive research on this subject.

I am sure that Nisan 13 was the Preparation of the Passover and the day of the Crucifixion. I have studied this at length as you can tell by the following.

"Clay Cantrell (20 Aug 2012) 'Question for MJ Agee: When Then Was Pentecost?'
www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2012/marilyna821.htm

"Aug 21, 2012 - Your Magnum Opus on the date of the Crucifixion of the Lord Jesus found here: http://prophecycorner.theforeverfamily.com/procon1656.html ... is excellent and everyone should read it for sure!"

"CALENDAR CONVERTERS AND THE THURSDAY DATE OF THE CRUCIFIXION"
By Marilyn Agee
http://prophecycorner.theforeverfamily.com/procon1656.html

"THE LAST SUPPER, CRUCIFIXION, AND BURIAL WERE ALL ON THE PREPARATION DAY, THURSDAY, NISAN 13, 3790

"The Preparation of the Saturday Sabbath would normally be on Friday, but that Friday happened to be Passover, an annual Sabbath, a high day when no servile work could be done. Therefore, all servile preparation for the three consecutive feasts had to be done on Thursday, Nisan 13.

"Thursday, Nisan 13, Preparation Day, Last Supper, Crucifixion and Burial
Friday, Nisan 14, Passover, high day, annual Sabbath
Saturday, Nisan 15, Feast of Unleavened Bread, weekly Sabbath
Sunday, Nisan 16, Firstfruits, Resurrection Day, Omer 1, counted "from the morrow (Sunday) after the sabbath" (Saturday, the Feast of Unleavened Bread).

"Mat_26:17-21 says, "Now the first (protos, before, former, prior; from pro, fore, in front of, prior) day of the feast of unleavened bread (i.e., Nisan 13) the disciples came to Jesus, saying unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare for thee to eat the PASSOVER?"....

"Mark 14:12 says, "And the first (protos, prior) day of unleavened bread, when they killed the PASSOVER (i.e., on Nisan 13), his disciples said unto him, Where wilt thou that we go and prepare that thou mayest eat the PASSOVER?

Mark 14:14 says, "And wheresoever he shall go in, say ye to the goodman of the house, The Master saith, Where is the guestchamber, where I shall eat the PASSOVER with my disciples?"

Mark 14:16 says, "And his disciples went forth, and came into the city, and found as he had said unto them: and they made ready the PASSOVER."

"Mark 15:42-46 says, "And now when the even (i.e., 6 PM) was come, because IT WAS THE PREPARATION (Nisan 13), that is, the day before the Sabbath (Nisan 14, Passover, an annual Sabbath), 43 Joseph of Arimathaea, an honourable counsellor, which also waited for the kingdom of God, came, and went in boldly unto Pilate, and craved the body of Jesus. 44 And Pilate marvelled if he were already dead: and calling unto him the centurion, he asked him whether he had been any while dead. 45 And when he knew it of the centurion, he gave the body to Joseph. 46 And he BOUGHT fine linen (on Nisan 13, Preparation Day, he couldn't buy on the Passover Sabbath High Day), and took him down, and wrapped him in the linen, and laid him in a sepulchre which was hewn out of a rock, and rolled a stone unto the door of the sepulchre" (on Thursday, Nisan 13)."...

"Joh_13:1 says, 'Now BEFORE (i.e., on Nisan 13) the feast of the PASSOVER (Nisan 14), when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end.'

"Joh_18:28 says, 'Then led they Jesus from Caiaphas unto the hall of judgment: and it was early; and they themselves went not into the judgment hall, lest they should be defiled; but that they might eat the PASSOVER' (i.e., on Nisan 14).

"Joh_19:14 says, 'And IT WAS THE PREPARATION OF THE PASSOVER (i.e., Nisan 13), and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!' ...

"JESUS WAS THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS IN THE HEART OF THE EARTH

"Mt_12:40 says, 'For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth."

"In Jewish communal life part of a day is at times reckoned as one day"
(jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/5007-day)

"Thursday, DAY
"Friday, night then DAY
"Saturday, night then DAY
"Sunday, night

Luk_24:21 says, "But we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this, to day is the third day since these things were done."

Thursday, Crucifixion
Friday, 1st day since
Saturday, 2nd day since
Sunday, 3rd day since

"ALL FOUR GOSPELS AGREE THAT THE CRUCIFIXION WAS ON THE PREPARATION OF THE PASSOVER, i.e., THURSDAY

"Mat_27:62-64 says, "Now the next day (Friday, 'an high day', Passover), that followed THE DAY OF THE PREPARATION (Thursday), the chief priests and Pharisees came together unto Pilate, Saying, Sir, we remember that that deceiver said, while he was yet alive, AFTER THREE DAYS (after Thursday, Friday and Saturday) I will rise again (on Sunday). 64 Command therefore that the sepulchre be made sure until the third day (Friday, Saturday and Sunday), lest his disciples come by night, and steal him away, and say unto the people, He is risen from the dead".

"Mar_15:42 says, "And now when the even was come, because IT WAS THE PREPARATION (Thursday), that is, the day before the sabbath" (Friday, Passover, an annual Sabbath)."

"Luk_23:54 says, "THAT DAY WAS THE PREPARATION (Thursday), and the sabbath (Friday, Passover) drew on."

"Joh_19:14 says, "IT WAS THE PREPARATION (Thursday) OF THE PASSOVER (Friday), and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!"

Joh_19:31 says, "The Jews therefore, because IT WAS THE PREPARATION (Thursday), that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day [Passover] was AN HIGH DAY,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away."

"WAS JESUS BURIED ON THURSDAY OR FRIDAY?

"All four gospel accounts show that the burial was on Thursday, the Preparation Day for the Passover, Unleavened Bread and Firstfruits.

"Mt 27:62-64 says, "Now the NEXT DAY (Friday), that FOLLOWED THE DAY OF THE PREPARATION (THURSDAY, Nisan 13), the chief priests and Pharisees came together unto Pilate. 63 Sir, we remember that that deceiver said, while he was yet alive, After three days (Thursday, Friday, Saturday) I will rise again" (on Sunday). 64 Command therefore that the sepulchre be made sure until the third day (1. Friday, 2. Saturday, 3. Sunday), lest his disciples come by night, and steal him away, and say unto the people, He is risen from the dead: so the last error shall be worse than the first."

"Mark 14:16-18 says, "And his disciples went forth, and came into the city, and found as he had said unto them: and they made ready the PASSOVER. 17 And IN THE EVENING (i.e., the beginning of Nisan 13) he cometh with the twelve. 18 And as they sat and did eat"...

Mark 15:42,43 says, "now when the EVEN (opsios, late afternoon or nightfall, i.e., between 3 and 6 PM) WAS COME, because IT WAS THE PREPARATION (THURSDAY), that is, the day BEFORE the sabbath, (Friday, Passover, a high day, an annual Sabbath). 43 Joseph of Arimathaea, an honourable counsellor, which also waited for the kingdom of God, came, and went in boldly unto Pilate, and craved the body of Jesus."

Mark 15:46 says, "And he (Joseph of Arimathaea) bought fine linen (on Thursday, for he could not buy on the Passover Sabbath or the Saturday Sabbath), and took him down, and wrapped him in the linen, and laid him in a sepulchre".
Mark_16:1 says, "when the sabbath (Saturday) was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices (Sunday), that they might come and anoint him."

"Luke 22:7-15 says, "Then came the day of unleavened bread, when the PASSOVER must be killed (Nisan 13, Preparation Day, after they had thrown out the leaven the previous day). 8 And he sent Peter and John, saying, Go and prepare us the PASSOVER, that we may eat. 9 And they said unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare? 10 And he said unto them, Behold, when ye are entered into the city, there shall a man meet you, bearing a pitcher of water; follow him into the house where he entereth in. 11 And ye shall say unto the goodman of the house, The Master saith unto thee, Where is the guestchamber, where I shall eat the PASSOVER with my disciples? 12 And he shall shew you a large upper room furnished: there make ready. 13 And they went, and found as he had said unto them: and they made ready the PASSOVER. 14 And when the hour (6 PM, when Nisan 13 began) was come, HE SAT DOWN, and the twelve apostles with him. 15 And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this PASSOVER with you before I suffer".

"Luk 23:52-56 says, "This man (Joseph of Arimathaea) went unto Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus. 53 And he took it down, and wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a sepulchre that was hewn in stone, wherein never man before was laid. 54 And THAT DAY WAS THE PREPARATION (THURSDAY), and the sabbath (Friday, Passover) drew on. 55 And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid. 56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day (Saturday) according to the COMMANDMENT."

Luk_24:1 says, "Now upon the first day of the week (Sunday), very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared".

"John 19:14 says, "And IT WAS THE PREPARATION (Thursday, Nisan 13) of the passover (Nisan 14), and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!"

"John 19:31 says, "The Jews therefore, because IT WAS THE PREPARATION (Thursday), that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day [Friday, Passover] was an HIGH DAY [an annual Sabbath]) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away."

John 19:39-42 says, "And there came also Nicodemus, which at the first came to Jesus by night, and brought a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about an hundred pound weight. 40 Then took they the body of Jesus, and wound it in linen clothes with the spices, as the manner of the Jews is to bury. 41 Now in the place where he was crucified there was a garden; and in the garden a new sepulchre, wherein was never man yet laid. 42 There laid they Jesus therefore BECAUSE OF THE JEWS' PREPARATION DAY; for the sepulchre was nigh at hand."...

"CONCLUSION

"According to all four Gospels, Jesus was crucified on Thursday, April 6, 30 AD (Julian), the Eve of Passover....

"The Tractate "Sanhedrin" in the Babylonian Talmud agrees.

"It says, "ON THE EVE OF PESAH THEY HUNG JESHU [the Nazarene]. And the crier went forth before him forty days (saying), '[Jeshu the Nazarene] goeth forth to be stoned, because he hath practiced magic and deceived and led astray Israel. Anyone who knoweth aught in his favour, let him come and declare concerning him. And THEY HUNG HIM ON THE EVE OF PESAH’."

> > John 19:31 It was the preparation (14th) for the high Sabbath day, which refers to the 1. day of unleavened bread (15th) Lev 23:6+7

Preparation Day was Thursday, Nisan 13.
Friday was a high Sabbath, Passover, Nisan 14.
Saturday was both the weekly Saturday Sabbath and the feast of Unleavened Bread, a Sabbath.
Sunday was the Feast of Firstfruits, a Sabbath.

"the word shabbaton is extended to mean all seven festivals."
High Sabbaths
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Sabbaths

> >Nisan the 9th Jesus was in Jericho and traveled Friday to Bethany. Jack Missler comes to the same conclusion
(focusonjerusalem.com/thedayJesusdied.html).

THE DAY JESUS DIED

(A Koinonia House Publication from Chuck Missler)

Chuck Missler said, "Jesus was crucified on the Passover"

I disagree. I think he was crucified on the day before the Passover.

Chuck also said, "DAY ONE - FRIDAY -
The 9th of Nisan
We know from Luke 19:1 and Mark 10:46 that Jesus was in Jericho prior to traveling to Bethany. Jesus would have had to be in Bethany before sundown on Friday, since at sundown the Sabbath would start, and long-distance travel was not permitted on the Sabbath."

I think Jesus arrived on Saturday evening. He was coming from Jericho, and Bethany was on the eastern slope of the Mt. of Olives.

Chuck also said, "Leviticus 23:5 designates the 14th of Nisan to be the day for observing Passover. Jesus was placed in the tomb just prior to sundown on Wednesday and spent his first full night and day in the tomb beginning on the 15th of Nisan, the Feast of Unleavened Bread"

I disagree. I think Jesus was crucified on Thursday, Nisan 13, the Preparation of the Passover. The Jews counted part of a day as a day.

> > The Chamutz is burned on the 14th of Nisan 9.35 am in my calendar (Luach Zion Jerushalaim), why should it be different in 30 CE?

Calendar programs can be off. We have to go by the Bible.

"Chametz's Final Moments - The Burning of the Chametz
www.chabad.org ... The Day Before Passover
On the morning before Passover, before the fifth hour, we burn all the chametz that ... chametz may be eaten until the fourth hour of the day."

"New Edition of the Babylonian Talmud
https://books.google.com/books?id=HKYMAAAAYAAJ 1899 - ?Talmud
Say that already early in the morning of the day PRECEDING THE FESTIVAL (leaven should be burned)."

"Burning of hametz in Jerusalem ahead of Passover
http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/IN-PICTURES-Burning-of-hametz-in-Jerusalem-ahead-of-Passover-396107

> > I believe the Rapture is after the Tribulation (Mat 24:29-31). I think the only way to find the timing of the Rapture is through the First Resurrection, because Paul said, that the dead will rise first and together with the living be raptured. Further he said, that all will be changed in a twinkling of an eye. That proofs one Rapture together with the First Resurrection. The Bible says that this resurrection is after the Great Tribulation (Rev 20:4+5). The word protos means main or first of two, that happens 1000 years later. 1. Cor 15:23 tells us that is happens when the Lord comes at His Revelation.

THREE RAPTURES BY THE DAY OF THE LORD THAT ENDS THE GREAT TRIBULATION

I believe that the First-Trump Rapture of ITh 4:16,17 is Mid-Trib, and the Last-Trump Rapture of ICo 15:51-54 is Post-Trib. Jesus took the OT saints to Heaven on Firstfruits in 30 AD. Maybe the next Rapture will be on Pentecost and the last Rapture on Trumpets.

1Th 4:16 says, "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first".

According to Rev. 12:6-8, the archangel Michael comes Mid-Trib.

Dan 12:1 says, "And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book."

1Co 15:23 (NIV) says, "But each in turn (tagma, orderly arrangement, series, succession): Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him."

Jas 1:18 says, "Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures."

THE ORDERLY SUCCESSION SEEMS TO BE ON FIRSTFRUITS, PENTECOST, AND TRUMPETS

(1) Christ took the OT saints to heaven on Firstfruits in 30 AD
(2) The firstfruits, caught up on the Day of Christ on Pentecost at Mid-Trib
(3) All that belong to Christ, caught up on the Day of the Lord, on Trumpets, day of the Second Advent

The Day of Christ seems to be as the days of Noah, and the Day of the Lord as the days of Lot. In the days of Noah, they went up during the 40 days that followed Iyar 17. That fits Pentecost. In the days of Lot, destruction came on the same day Lot left.

2Pe_3:10 says, "But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up." Agape

INCOMING EMAIL, RE: TWO RUINOUS HEAPS

THERE ARE TWO 'RUINOUS HEAPS' IN OUR NEAR FUTURE....

As a result of the upcoming Gog-Magog War against Israel, BEFORE THE RAPTURE, we will see two ruinous heaps according to these Scriptures:

Isaiah 17:1
"Behold, Damascus will .......become a ruinous heap."

Micah 3:12
"Jerusalem shall become a heap of ruins."

Zechariah 12:2-3
"Behold, I will make JERUSALEM a cup of trembling unto ALL THE PEOPLE ROUND ABOUT, when THEY SHALL BE IN SIEGE both AGAINST JUDEA and AGAINST JERUSALEM. And in that day will I make JERUSALEM A BURDENSOME STONE FOR ALL PEOPLE , ALL THAT BURDEN THEMSELVES (including the U.S.) with it SHALL BE CUT TO PIECES, though ALL THE PEOPLE OF THE EARTH (including the U.S.) be gathered together AGAINST IT."

Luke 21:20
"And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies (Gog-Magog Armies), the know that the desolation thereof is nigh."

The Word of God confirms the Word of God, but not many pay it any attention. "Many are called, but few are chosen." Come Lord Jesus !

MY REPLY

> > As a result of the upcoming Gog-Magog War against Israel, BEFORE THE RAPTURE, we will see two ruinous heaps according to these Scriptures:

> > Isaiah 17:1
"Behold, Damascus will .......become a ruinous heap."

> > Micah 3:12
"Jerusalem shall become a heap of ruins."

WHY "BEFORE THE RAPTURE"?

I think the Gog and Magog War and the Last-Trump Rapture will be on "the day of grief and of desperate sorrow", the Day of the Lord at the end of the shortened Great Tribulation. This won't be the time of the church's trouble, but the time of Jacob's trouble.

Jer 30:7 says, "Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it."

Isa 13:5,6 says, "They come from a far country, from the end of heaven, even the LORD, and the weapons of his indignation, to destroy the whole land. 6 Howl ye; for the day of the LORD is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty."

Isa_17:11 says, "the harvest shall be a heap in the day of grief and of desperate sorrow."

Isa 18:3-7 says, "All ye inhabitants of the world, and dwellers on the earth, see ye, when he lifteth up an ensign (i.e., the UN flag) on the mountains (i.e., kingdoms); and when he bloweth a trumpet (i.e., at the time of the First-Trump Rapture), hear ye. 4 For so the LORD said unto me, I will take my rest, and I will consider (nabat, regard with pleasure) in my dwelling place (i.e., Heaven) like a clear heat upon herbs, and like a cloud of dew in the heat of harvest. 5 For AFORE THE HARVEST, WHEN THE BUD IS PERFECT, AND THE SOUR GRAPE IS RIPENING IN THE FLOWER (i.e., AT PENTECOST), he shall both cut off the sprigs with pruning hooks, and TAKE AWAY (sur, depart, take away, i.e., in the First-Trump Rapture) and cut down the branches. 6 They (i.e., the branches with no fruit) shall be left together unto the fowls of the mountains, and to the beasts of the earth: and the fowls shall SUMMER upon them, and all the beasts of the earth shall WINTER upon them. 7 In that time shall the present be brought unto the LORD of hosts of a people scattered and peeled, and from a people terrible from their beginning hitherto; a nation meted out and trodden under foot, whose land the rivers have spoiled, to the place of the name of the LORD of hosts, the mount Zion."

"RISE UP" WHEN THE "VINES HAVE TENDER GRAPES" IN EARLY JUNE

Son 2:10-15 says, "My beloved spake, and said unto me, RISE UP (i.e., as in Rev 11:1), my love, my fair one, and come away (i.e., in the First-Trump Rapture). 11 For, lo, the winter is past, the rain (i.e., of Nisan) is over and gone; 12 The flowers appear on the earth (i.e., April showers bring May flowers); the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle (lit., turtledove, which comes in April and leaves in October) is heard in our land; 13 The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell (i.e., in early June). Arise, my love, my fair one, and come away. 14 O my dove, that art in the clefts of the rock, in the secret places ("places" is not in the original) of the stairs (i.e., this is the SECRET OF THE STAIRS), let me see thy countenance, let me hear thy voice; for sweet is thy voice, and thy countenance is comely. 15 Take us the foxes, the little foxes, that spoil the vines: for our vines have tender grapes (i.e., it is early June)."

Dan 12:1 says, "And at that time (i.e., Mid-Trib) shall Michael stand up (Rev 12), the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble (i.e., the Great Tribulation), such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered (malat, escape, leap out, i.e., be raptured), every one that shall be found written in the book."

> > Zechariah 12:2-3
> > "Behold, I will make JERUSALEM a cup of trembling unto ALL THE PEOPLE ROUND ABOUT, when THEY SHALL BE IN SIEGE both AGAINST JUDEA and AGAINST JERUSALEM. And in that day will I make JERUSALEM A BURDENSOME STONE FOR ALL PEOPLE , ALL THAT BURDEN THEMSELVES (including the U.S.) with it SHALL BE CUT TO PIECES, though ALL THE PEOPLE OF THE EARTH (including the U.S.) be gathered together AGAINST IT."

THE DAY DAMASCUS WILL CEASE TO BE A CITY WILL BE WHEN SATAN'S ASTEROID WORMWOOD HITS EARTH ON THE DAY OF GOD'S WRATH AT THE END OF THE GREAT TRIBULATION

Eze 38:18-23 says, "And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that my fury shall come up in my face. 19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel; 20 So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence, and the mountains (i.e., including the asteroid Wormwood) shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and EVERY WALL SHALL FALL to the ground. 21 And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord GOD: every man's sword shall be against his brother. 22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone. 23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD."

ON THE DAY OF THE LORD, "THE LORD MY GOD SHALL COME, AND ALL THE SAINTS WITH THEE"

Zec 14:1-5 says, "Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. 2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. 3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. 4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south. 5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee."

THE RAPTURE, OUR DEPARTURE, COMES BEFORE THE FALSE PROPHET IS REVEALED MID-TRIB

2 Th 2:3,4 (HNV) says, "Let no one deceive you in any way. For it will not be, unless THE DEPARTURE COMES FIRST, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of destruction, he who opposes and exalts himself against all that is called God or that is worshiped; so that he sits as God in the temple of God, setting himself up as God."

"HE RESERVETH UNTO US THE APPOINTED WEEKS OF THE HARVEST"

Jer 5:24 says, "Neither say they in their heart, Let us now fear the LORD our God, that giveth rain, both the former (i.e., Tishri 1) and the latter (i.e., Nisan 1), in his season: he reserveth unto us the appointed weeks of the harvest" (i.e., probably the Feast of Weeks, Pentecost). Agape

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