Pro and Con 1974

Posted 4-22-17

Interesting: "Life-Enabling Plumes above Enceladus"

https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap170416.html

OROVILLE DAM (CA) UPDATE

This is where our water comes from.

"DWR plans to repair and replace the top part of the (broken) spillway by next winter, allowing for a total outflow of 270,000 cfs, said Jeanne Kuttel, DWR chief engineer.

"That includes drains, walls and some foundation rock, in order to meet modern dam design standards, Kuttel said. The next phase will focus on the lower spillway, which will be replaced with stronger concrete. Roller-compacted concrete, or RCC, is used at dams across the nation, she said. The department expects to have bottom portion of the spillway able to handle 100,000 cfs by Nov. 1, so that would be the maximum capacity for the structure for the season.

"Next year, the department plans to bring the lower chute capacity to match the top portion's capacity of 270,000 cfs, Croyle said.

The third phase will involve reinforcing the emergency spillway with RCC" (Roller Compressed Concrete).

STRANGE CORRELATION OF DATES

"Congress voted to declare war on Germany on April 6, 1917.[3] On December 7, 1917, the U.S. declared war on Austria-Hungary."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_entry_into_World_War_I

April 6, 30 AD was the date of the Crucifixion. The US declared war on Japan on December 7, 1941.

THE FIRST-TRUMP OF THE BIBLE WAS SOUNDED AT MT. SINAI ON PENTECOST

Moses played out the First-Trump Rapture at Mt. Sinai.

Exo 19:4 says, "Ye have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and how I bare you on eagles' wings, and brought you unto myself."

Exo_19:13 says, "...when the trumpet soundeth long, they shall come up to the mount."

"MOSES WENT UP" WHEN THE TRUMPET SOUNDED ON PENTECOST

Exo 19:19,20 says, "And when the voice of the trumpet sounded long, and waxed louder and louder, Moses spake, and God answered him by a voice. 20 And the LORD came down upon mount Sinai, on the top of the mount: and the LORD called Moses up to the top of the mount; and Moses went up."

FIRST TRUMP RAPTURE, WHEN MOSES AND ELIJAH COME BACK MID-TRIB, THERE IS NO EARTHQUAKE

1Th 4:16-18 says, "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel (i.e., Michael, who comes Mid-Trib), and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words."

Rev 11:1-3 says, "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise (i.e., in the Mid-Trib Rapture), and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses (i.e., Moses and Elijah), and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth."

LAST TRUMP RAPTURE, POST-TRIB, WHEN MOSES AND ELIJAH ARE CAUGHT UP, DAY OF THE GREAT EARTHQUAKE

1Co 15:51-54 says, "Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory."

Moses and Elijah will be killed, resurrected, and raptured at the end of the shortened Great Tribulation.

Rev 11:12,13 says, "And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. 13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven."

MY REPLY TO A POST ON THE INTERNET

ITh 4:16,17 is the First-trump Rapture. It takes place when Michael stands up Mid-Trib.

Dan 12:1 says, "And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book."

Of Mid-Trib, when Michael stands up, Rev 12:10-12 says, "Now is come salvation (soteria, rescue, the First-Trump Rapture), and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them."

ICo 15:51-54 is the Last-trump Rapture. It takes place Post-Trib.

POPE FRANCIS SAID, "ALL RELIGIONS ARE TRUE"

"Posted : 12/22/2013 5:41:38 PM"
https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=52172

"Pope Francis condemns racism and declares that all religions are true at historic third vatican council."

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All religions are true, because they are true in the hearts of all those who believe in them. What other kind of truth is there?

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God is changing and evolving as we are, For God lives in us and in our hearts. When we spread love and kindness in the world, we touch our own divinity and recognize it. The Bible is a beautiful holy book, but like all great and ancient works, some passages are outdated. Some even call for intolerance or judgement. The time has come to see these verses as later interpolations, contrary to the message of love and truth, which otherwise radiates through scripture.

MY REPLY

All religions are not true. Only Christianity is true.

Act_4:12 says of Jesus, "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved."

Rom 10:9-13 says, "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. 12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. 13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."

Heb 1:1-3 says, "God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; 3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high".

Listen to some of those videos of people who died and came back. Heaven and hell are real. That experience changed their lives.

My 87-year old husband died in December 2011. The following April 2, he came to see me in his celestial body. He was dressed in a shirt and pants made of what looked like black silk. I asked him if he was 30 or 33. He said, "33". I asked him if we could be together forever. He said, "Yes." After a few other questions, he walked through the wall.

Did the Tribulation begin 12-22-2013? If so, Mid-Trib will be next Pentecost.

INCOMING EMAIL, RE: RIDER ON THE WHITE HORSE IDENTIFIED

THE 'RIDER ON THE WHITE HORSE' IS POSITIVELY IDENTIFIED......

Revelation 6:2
"Behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow, and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer."

The "white horse" is indicative of a major religion. The "bow" represents that he uses weapons of war. A "crown" denotes that he has authority. His motive is the "conquering" peoples minds, and "to conquer" nations. He is the first of four evil spirit riders.

What evil anti-Semite and anti-Christian major authoritarian religion uses weapons of war to conquer the minds of peoples and nations ?

The first seal rider on the white horse is at full gallop on earth today. The second seal rider on the red horse of major war will soon follow with the third seal black horse rider and the fourth seal pale horse rider close behind.

MY REPLY

> > Revelation 6:2
"Behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow, and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer."

> > The "white horse" is indicative of a major religion. The "bow" represents that he uses weapons of war.

THIS "BOW" IS FABRIC

The original word translated "bow" is toxon, simple fabric. This man is a man of the cloth, a religious leader, Antichrist.

Look at the picture of Cepheus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cepheus_(constellation)

In the Gospel in the Stars, Cepheus represents Christ, the great king. Notice that he is holding a piece of plain fabric. It is a sign that he is a religious leader.

Mat_7:15 says, "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."

The Pope's badge of office is the pallium, made of lamb's wool.

I think Antichrist is the Roman who, like Nimrod, calls himself Pontifex Maximus.

Rev 13:1-11 is the scripture that woke me up to the fact that the Rapture is Mid-Trib. "THEM THAT DWELL IN HEAVEN" are there just before the False Prophet comes to power.

The Revelation of Jesus Christ is written as if it is ten days before Mid-Trib.

Rev_2:10 says, "Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life."

ONCE AT THE TOWER OF BABEL, SATAN'S THRONE IS NOW IN ROME

Nimrod, the pagan sun god, ruler at the Tower of Babel, was the first to assume the title Pontifex Maximus. In 376 AD, the Roman Emperor Gratian gave the idolatrous title to the bishop of Rome. Now Antichrist wears the scarlet robes of Nimrod and the miter of the fish-god Dagon, claims to be the Pontifex Maximus and has Vicarius Filii Dei (Vicar of Christ) printed on one of his hats. He is called "Father" in defiance of Jesus who forbid calling anyone father.

In Mat_23:9, Jesus commanded, "call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven."

Rev 13:1-11 shows that the Rapture is Mid-Trib, before the Satan-possessed False Prophet comes to power.

THE RAPTURED CHURCH IS REPRESENTED AS "THEM THAT DWELL IN HEAVEN" BEFORE THE FALSE PROPHET COMES TO POWER

Rev 13:1-11 says, "And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea (i.e., suggesting the Holy See, the central government of the Catholic Church), having seven heads (i.e., Babel, Babylon II, Medo-Persia, Greece, Holy Roman Empire, Ecclesiastical Holy Roman Empire, and Babylon III) and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy (i.e., Pontifex Maximus or Vicarius Filii Dei, Vicar of Christ, or instead of Christ, which adds up to 666). 2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard (i.e., Greece, Dan 7:6), and his feet were as the feet of a bear (i.e., Medo-Persia, Dan 7:5), and his mouth as the mouth of a lion (i.e., Babylon, Dan 7:4): and THE DRAGON (i.e., Satan) GAVE HIM HIS POWER, AND HIS SEAT, AND GREAT AUTHORITY. 3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. 4 And they worshipped the dragon (i.e., Satan) which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? 5 And there was given unto him (i.e., Antichrist) a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months (i.e., during the first half of the Tribulation). 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and THEM THAT DWELL IN HEAVEN (i.e., the wise-virgin saints caught up in the Mid-Trib Rapture). 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints (i.e., the foolish-virgin saints left behind), and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9 If any man have an ear, let him hear. 10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints. 11 And I beheld another beast (i.e., the Satan-possessed False Prophet) coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon."

Some in the church in Thyatira, meaning sacrifice offering, will go into the Great Tribulation instead of being caught up in the Mid-Trib Rapture.

Rev 2:18-25 says, "And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass; 19 I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first. 20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. 21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. 22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into GREAT TRIBULATION, except they repent of their deeds. 23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. 24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden. 25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come."

> > The first seal rider on the white horse is at full gallop on earth today.

I agree. The seven-sealed book will not be given to Christ until after the First-Trump Rapture, which I think will be Mid-Trib. Therefore, none of the seals have been broken. However, it does look like the Antichrist is reigning today. Agape

INCOMING EMAIL, RE: Pale Green Horse

The pale green horse, seen in Tahrir Square in 2011 was indicative of the 4th horse of Revelation riding out. That was my whole point. That the riders of the 4 horsemen have ridden out already. Hence - we are further along in prophecy. We have had war and famine and now - Islam. Which I equate with the pale green horse seen in Tahrir Square. I am unsure of the rider of the white horse. It could be "Christianity" in disguise (i.e. The Catholic church) or it could be our LORD. I don't pretend to assume I know. The fact is that we saw the pale green horse - on national television - seen all over the world via you tube. It was not a "non event".

Young Nathan saw the war of Gog and Magog on the horizon. Literally within months. His timing may be a tad out but it's obvious he received information that emphasized the nearness of this prophecy. We have been sitting on the build up to Gog and Magog for quite a few years now. The Middle Eastern Christians are suffering terribly. If Rev 4 is the Rapture Chapter, we would not be here to see all these things. Your sister in Christ

MY REPLY

> > The pale green horse, seen in Tahrir Square in 2011 was indicative of the 4th horse of Revelation riding out. That was my whole point. That the riders of the 4 horsemen have ridden out already.

HOWEVER, THE FOUR HORSEMEN HAVE NOT YET RIDDEN OUT YET

The First-Trump Rapture, which takes place Mid-Trib, has not yet taken place. Jesus will be given the seven-sealed book after Michael stands up when the Mid-Trib Rapture takes place. Therefore, none of the seals have been broken.

THE FIRST-TRUMP RAPTURE COMES WHEN MICHAEL THE ARCHANGEL STANDS UP MID-TRIB

1Th 4:16,17 says, "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, WITH THE VOICE OF THE ARCHANGEL, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then (epeita, afterward) we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."

THE ARCHANGEL MICHAEL WILL BRING BACK MOSES AND ELIJAH AT THE TIME OF THE MID-TRIB RAPTURE

No wonder Jud 1:9 says, "Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee."

THE FIRST RAPTURE TAKES PLACE WHEN MICHAEL STANDS UP MID-TRIB

Dan 12:1 says, "And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble (i.e., the Great Tribulation), such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book."

WHAT PRE-TRIBERS AND POST-TRIBERS ARE MISSING: REV 12:10-12 SAYS, "NOW (I.E., MID-TRIB) IS COME SALVATION"

Rev 12:6-12 says, "And the woman (i.e., Israel) fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place (i.e., Petra) prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days (i.e., during the Great Tribulation). 7 And there was war in heaven: MICHAEL and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was cast out (i.e., at Mid-Trib), that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, NOW (arti, just now) IS COME SALVATION (soteria, rescue, deliverance, i.e., the Mid-Trib Rapture), and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12 THEREFORE REJOICE, YE HEAVENS, AND YE THAT DWELL IN THEM."

Surprise, surprise! the Rapture just took place Mid-Trib, in Scripture. Believe it. It's there in black and white.

In Mar_13:23, Jesus said, "But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things."

But what about no man knows the day or hour?

In Mat 24:35, 36, Jesus said, "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. 36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only."

That doesn't apply to the Rapture. It applies to when heaven and earth will pass away.

> > I am unsure of the rider of the white horse. It could be "Christianity" in disguise (i.e. The Catholic church) or it could be our LORD. I don't pretend to assume I know.

I think the rider on the white horse in Rev 6 is the False Prophet, a Pope, one who calls himself the Pontifex Maximus.

Rev 6:1,2 says, "And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow (toxon, plain fabric, sign of a clergyman of the Christian Church, i.e., a man of the cloth); and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer."

Mat_7:15 says, "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."

Sheep's clothing is something made of wool.

THE WOOLEN PALLIUM IS THE POPE'S BADGE OF OFFICE

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pallium
"The pallium is an ecclesiastical vestment in the Catholic Church, originally peculiar to the Pope ... The lambs whose wool is destined for the making of the pallia are solemnly presented at the altar by the nuns of the convent of Saint Agnes."

I THINK WE WILL BE CAUGHT UP MID-TRIB, THEN THE MAN OF SIN, THE FALSE PROPHET, WILL BE DISCLOSED

2Th 2:3,4 (Geneva Bible) says, "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day (i.e., Day of the Lord) shall not come, except there come A DEPARTING (i.e., the First-Trump Rapture) FIRST, and that that man of sin be disclosed, even the son of perdition. 4 Which is an adversary, and exalteth himself against all that is called God, or that is worshipped: so that he doth sit as God in the Temple of God, showing himself that he is God."

I think the literal Temple will not be built until the Church, the Temple of the Holy Spirit, is in Heaven Mid-Trib. Agape

INCOMING EMAIL, RE: two witnesses

Thanks for all your hard work!

But not sure why you believe that the two witnesses would oversee the rebuilding of the third temple? Surely they aren't returning to reinstitute daily sacrifices seeing that it's a FINISHED work...More likely they will find themselves opposing the rebuilding because they'll be preaching Jesus. Isn't this a more likely scenario? Thanks

MY REPLY

> > Thanks for all your hard work!

I appreciate your letting me know.

> > But not sure why you believe that the two witnesses would oversee the rebuilding of the third temple?

The Temple is not there now, and It looks like it will be built while the two witnesses are on earth.

I think it will be built between the Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa Mosque, with the back of it facing the wailing wall.

Josephus said, "Now as to the tower of Antonia," he said, "it was situated at the corner of two cloisters of the court of the temple; of that on the WEST, and that on the NORTH; it was erected upon a ROCK of fifty cubits in height, and was on a great precipice; it was the work of king Herod, wherein he demonstrated his natural magnanimity. In the first place, THE ROCK ITSELF WAS COVERED OVER WITH SMOOTH PIECES OF STONE, from its foundation, both for ornament, and that any one who would either try to get up or to go down it might not be able to hold his feet upon it.."

The size of the rock (17.7 M x 13.5 M) under the Dome of the Rock wouldn't fit in the Holy of Holies (10 M X 10 M), so it seems clear that the Temple was not built over that rock.

From where the main aqueduct entered the Temple mount at the causeway over the Tyropoean Valley, it went southeast to where the Kas Fountain is today. It couldn't have supplied water to the Dome of the Rock.

Tuvia Segiv thinks the Temple was on the south side between the Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa Mosque. I agree.

The bedrock is very deep in the area that would have been under the Holy of Holies. They had to build that area up with arches and scaffolding, a fitting thing since the Holy of Holies represented Heaven.

Israel is waiting for a prophet to come. Rabbi Jehuda Getz, chief rabbi of the Western Wall, says that it is not for man to decide how the Jews will gain control over the Temple Mount. That is a matter for God. Getz expressed the opinion that the time is not yet ripe for the temple to be rebuilt. He says that a prophet must first come and indicate the exact spot where the altar should be. In the meantime, no one can start construction work on the temple until this prophet has come.

http://www.bibleguidance.co.za/Engbooks/Lordsday/Lordsday9.htm

The false prophet will sit in the Temple, so it will be built. Israel has everything ready now. They say they can build it in three months.

2Th 2:3,4 says, "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away (i.e., the DEPARTURE) first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God."

Dan 11:31 says, "...they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination (i.e., idol) that maketh desolate."

However, it seems that the literal temple cannot be built until we, the temple of the Holy Spirit, are in heaven Mid-Trib. That is when Moses and Elijah return. Agape

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