Pro and Con 1978

Posted 6-1-17

PENTECOST RAPTURE

Lev 23:15-17 says, "And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete: 16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD. 17 Ye shall bring out of your habitations two wave loaves of two tenth deals: they shall be of fine flour; they shall be baken with leaven; they are the firstfruits unto the LORD."

1Co_15:20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept."

1Co_15:23 says, "But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming."

Jas_1:18 says, "Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures."

The other day, I awoke right after the Lord stood and said, "Read Revelation 11." It is very important right now, because the Mid-Trib Rapture may take place on Pentecost, Sun. June 4, 2017.

You quoted Rev 11:4..."these are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth".

You rightly understand that they are Moses and Elijah. You referred to Zec 4:11-14. The last verse says, "These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth."

You also mentioned the Transfiguration (Mt 17), which proves that Moses and Elijah come back with Christ at the Mid-Trib Rapture. When Jesus says to us, "Arise, and be not afraid," Moses and Elijah are no longer present.

Let me backtrack a little. The Revelation of Jesus Christ is written as if the Great Tribulation will start in 10 days.

Rev 2:10 says, "Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life."

Rev 2:22 says, "Behold, I will cast her (i.e., some of the church of Thyatira) into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds."

Rev 4:1’s "COME UP HITHER" is the Mid-Trib Rapture. It comes when the church of Thyatira will be facing the Great Tribulation in just ten days.

Then in Rev 10:11, John is told, "Thou must prophesy AGAIN before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings."

Therefore, the "Rise" in the next verse is the Mid-Trib Rapture. After that, Moses and Elijah prophesy during the 1260-day Great Tribulation.

Rev 11:1-3 says, "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, RISE, and measure the temple of God (i.e., we are the Temple of the Holy Spirit), and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days (i.e., during the Great Tribulation), clothed in sackcloth."

WE ARE TOLD THAT THE RAPTURE WILL BE WHEN MICHAEL STANDS UP MID-TRIB

ITh 4:16,17 says, "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of THE ARCHANGEL, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."

Referring to when Moses comes back at the time of the Mid-Trib Rapture, Jud 1:9 says, "Yet MICHAEL THE ARCHANGEL, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses (i.e., who is returning to Earth Mid-Trib), durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee."

Dan 12:1 says, "And AT THAT TIME (i.e., MID-TRIB) shall MICHAEL stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be (i.e., after Mid-Trib) a time of trouble (i.e., the Great Tribulation), such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and AT THAT TIME THY PEOPLE SHALL BE DELIVERED, EVERY ONE THAT SHALL BE FOUND WRITTEN IN THE BOOK."

There are two Raptures, the one in ITh 4:16,17 on the Day of Christ at Mid-Trib, and one (i.e., the one in ICo 15:51-54) on the Day of the Lord after the Great Tribulation.

Rev 12:6-12 says, "And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days (i.e., during the Great Tribulation). 7 And there was war in heaven: MICHAEL and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, NOW IS COME SALVATION (soteria, rescue, deliverance, i.e., the MID-TRIB RAPTURE), and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12 Therefore REJOICE, YE HEAVENS, AND YE THAT DWELL IN THEM."

Rev 13:5-11 says, "And there was given unto him (i.e., Antichrist, the first beast) a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months (i.e., during the first half of the Tribulation). 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God (i.e., the Pope said that God was not divine), to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and THEM THAT DWELL IN HEAVEN (i.e., the wise-virgin saints caught up Mid-Trib). 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints (i.e., the foolish-virgin saints left behind), and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9 If any man have an ear, let him hear. 10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints. 11 And I beheld ANOTHER BEAST (i.e., the Satan-possessed False Prophet) coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon."

Re: Rahab. The parents of Boaz were Salmon and Rahab.

Boaz married Ruth on Pentecost, then died and went to Heaven the next day.

Boaz was a type of Christ, who may catch the Bride of Christ up to Heaven on Pentecost.

INCOMING EMAIL, RE: PC 127

In 1998..message. From jones date of 1993..1960 plus 33 ad date of cross..if a delay time of 21 years..Daniel 10 ..is 2014.
From there was a 3 year declaration to finish. So 2017 will fit the pro and con which we sent to Agee in 1998.

MY REPLY

Thanks. Good to hear from you.

Recently, I dreamed I was standing by my husband in Heaven. We kissed several quick kisses before I walked away and the dream ended. He looked like he did when we first met in 1946.

I found the following bit on the Internet.

"Trump was, until he became president, the poster child for self-made wealth and affluent living; Francis has called on rich people to give away their fortunes in order to attain salvation." http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/05/24/pope-francis-and-president-trump-ford-vs-motorcade.html

The Antichrist, Pope Francis, does not even know that belief in Jesus Christ is the only thing that brings salvation.

Joh 3:16 says, "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

Acts 4:12 says, "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved."

It now looks like the First-Trump Rapture of ITh 4:16,17 may take place Mid-Trib on Pentecost, Sunday, June 4, 2017.

"Pentecost Sunday is the day of the Pentecost festival, a prominent feast in the calendar of Ancient Israel celebrating the giving of the Law on Sinai, and also later in the Christian liturgical year commemorating the descent of the Holy Spirit upon the remaining eleven disciples of Christ (Judas had hanged himself) after the Resurrection of Jesus. It is also called Whit Sunday," http://www.calendarpedia.com/when-is/pentecost-sunday.html

It is called Whit Sunday because people wore white clothing.

The Revelation of Jesus Christ seems to have been written on Ascension Day (which was Thursday, May 25, 2017) ten days before the Mid-Trib Rapture on Pentecost. Read The Revelation of Jesus Christ carefully, and see what you think.

"THINGS WHICH MUST SHORTLY COME TO PASS"

Rev 1:1-3 says, "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants THINGS WHICH MUST SHORTLY COME TO PASS; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: 2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. 3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: FOR THE TIME IS AT HAND."

Rev 22:10 says, "And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand."

"YE SHALL HAVE TRIBULATION TEN DAYS"

Rev 2:10 says, "ye shall have tribulation TEN DAYS: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life."

Those ten days seem to be the ten between Ascension Day and Pentecost.

I think the First-Trump Rapture will take place when Michael brings back Moses and Elijah Mid-Trib.

THE TRANSFIGURATION

Mat 17:1-11 says, "And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart, 2 And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light. 3 And, behold, there appeared unto them MOSES AND ELIAS talking with him. 4 Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias. 5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him. 6 And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face, and were sore afraid. 7 And Jesus came and touched them, and said, ARISE, and be not afraid. 8 And when they had lifted up their eyes, they saw no man, save Jesus only. 9 And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead. 10 And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come? 11 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things."

1Th 4:16,17 says, "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with THE VOICE OF THE ARCHANGEL (i.e., MICHAEL), and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."

Jud 1:9 says, "MICHAEL THE ARCHANGEL, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee."

To John, who had prophesied about the Mid-Trib Rapture in Rev. 4:1, Rev 10:11 says, "Thou must prophesy AGAIN before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings."

The next verses, Rev 11:1-3, say, "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, RISE (i.e., in the Mid-Trib Rapture), and measure the temple of God (i.e., we are the temple of the Holy Spirit), and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months (i.e., during the Great Tribulation). 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses (i.e., Moses and Elijah), and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth."

Dan_10:21 says, "I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and there is none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince."

Dan 12:1 says, "And at that time (i.e., Mid-Trib) shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble (i.e., the Great Tribulation), such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time (i.e., Mid-Trib) thy people shall be delivered (malat, escape, leap out, i.e., be caught up in the Rapture), every one that shall be found written in the book."

THE RAPTURE COMES WHEN MICHAEL STANDS UP MID-TRIB AND SATAN IS CAST OUT OF HEAVEN

Rev 12:6-12 says, "And the woman (i.e., Israel) fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. (i.e., during the Great Tribulation) 7 And there was war in heaven (i.e., Mid-Trib): MICHAEL and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, NOW (arti, just now) IS COME SALVATION (SOTERIA, deliverance, saving, i.e., the Rapture), and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12 Therefore REJOICE, YE HEAVENS, AND YE THAT DWELL IN THEM."

"THE REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST" SEEMS TO BE AN ASCENSION DAY VIEW OF THE UPCOMING MID-TRIB RAPTURE ON PENTECOST

"Pentecost was a memorial to the giving of the Law at Mt. Sinai, and on its anniversary the dispensation of Grace officially began."
https://gracethrufaith.com/ask-a-bible-teacher/between-the-ascension-and-pentecost/

Ten days before Pentecost (the wheat harvest) is Ascension Day, commemorating Jesus’ ascension to Heaven. This year, Ascension Day was Omer 40, Thursday, May 26, 2017. Pentecost will be Sun. June 4, 2017.

Of Firstfruits, Joh 20:17 says, "Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God."

Jesus took the OT saints to Heaven that day and came back. Then, after 40 days of probation and trial for Israel, he ascended.

Forty means trial. This seems to be why there was a 40-day delay at Mt. Sinai (Jebel Halal on the Way to Shur).

Exo 24:18 says, "And Moses went into the midst of the cloud, and gat him up into the mount: and Moses was in the mount forty days and forty nights."

THE SETTING OF "THE REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST" SEEMS TO BE ASCENSION DAY, TEN DAYS BEFORE THE MID-TRIB RAPTURE TAKES PLACE

It looks like Jesus dictated The Revelation of Jesus Christ to John as if the time was Ascension Day ten days before the Mid-Trib Rapture on Pentecost.

THERE ARE "THINGS WHICH MUST SHORTLY COME TO PASS ... FOR THE TIME IS AT HAND"

Rev 1:1-3 says, "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants THINGS WHICH MUST SHORTLY COME TO PASS; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: 2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. 3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: FOR THE TIME IS AT HAND."

Rev 22:6 says, "These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done."

Rev 22:10 says, "Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: FOR THE TIME IS AT HAND."

"YE SHALL HAVE TRIBULATION TEN DAYS"

To the Church at Smyrna, he said, "Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and YE SHALL HAVE TRIBULATION TEN DAYS: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life." (Rev 2:10)

AT THE RAPTURE, SOME OF THE CHURCH AT THYATIRA ARE FACING THE GREAT TRIBULATION, WHICH COMES MID-TRIB

To the Church at Thyatira, he said, "Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds." (Rev 2:22)

JOHN PLAYED OUT THE MID-TRIB RAPTURE ON SUNDAY (i.e., PENTECOST)

Rev 1:9-11 says, "I John, who also am your brother, and companion IN TRIBULATION, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. 10 I was (lit., became) in the Spirit on the Lord's day (i.e., Sunday), and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, 11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last".

ALL SEVEN CHURCHES ARE IN HEAVEN ON THE SEVENTH SUNDAY AFTER FIRSTFRUITS

Rev 1:12-19 says, "And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks; 13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. 14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. 16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength. 17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: 18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. 19 Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are (i.e., at the time of the First-Trump Rapture of ITh 4:16,17), and the things which shall be hereafter".

THE CHURCH IS TO BE KEPT OUT OF THE HOUR OF TEMPTATION

Rev 3:10 says, "Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth."

"THEM THAT DWELL IN HEAVEN" ARE CAUGHT UP WHEN MICHAEL COMES MID-TRIB, JUST BEFORE THE FALSE PROPHET COMES TO POWER

1Th 4:16,17 says, "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel (i.e., Michael, who comes Mid-Trib), and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

THE ARCHANGEL IS MICHAEL, WHO IS BRINGING MOSES AND ELIJAH BACK AT THE TIME OF THE MID-TRIB RAPTURE

Jud 1:9 says, "Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee."

THE TRANSFIGURATION SHOWS THAT MOSES AND ELIJAH COME BACK AT THE TIME OF THE MID-TRIB RAPTURE

Mat 17:1-8 says, "And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart, 2 And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light. 3 And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him. 4 Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias. 5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him. 6 And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face, and were sore afraid. 7 And Jesus came and touched them, and said, ARISE, and be not afraid. 8 And when they had lifted up their eyes, they saw no man, save Jesus only."

In Rev 10:11, the angel "said unto me, Thou must prophesy AGAIN before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings."

Therefore, the "Rise" in the next verse is the same Mid-Trib Rapture that we read about in Rev 4:1.

Rev 11:1-3 says, "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth."

THE MID-TRIB RAPTURE, WHEN MICHAEL STANDS UP

Dan 12:1 says, "And at that time (i.e., Mid-Trib) shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book."

Rev 12:6-12 says, "And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. 7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, NOW IS COME SALVATION (i.e., the Rapture), and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12 Therefore rejoice, YE HEAVENS, AND YE THAT DWELL IN THEM."

Rev 13:5-11 says, "And there was given unto him (i.e., Antichrist) a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months (i.e., during the first half of the Tribulation) . 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and THEM THAT DWELL IN HEAVEN (i.e., the wise-virgin saints caught up in the First-Trump Rapture). 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints (i.e., the foolish-virgin saints left behind the first time), and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9 If any man have an ear, let him hear. 10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints. 11 And I beheld another beast (i.e., the False Prophet) coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon." Agape

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