Pro and Con 1011

Posted 3-23-03

Incoming email, Re: Bible Codes

From: Rich Pope

Marilyn, I've read both of Drosdin's books concerning the Bible Code. I find it interesting that the year 2006 is given for End of Days.

1) Do you believe in the Bible Code
2) Does 2006 match up with anything you have researched.
Rich

My reply

> > 1) Do you believe in the Bible Code

I have read several books on Bible Codes, Drosnin's first, two by Yacov Ramsel and one by Satinover. I have heard that Drosnin does not yet believe in Yeshua. How he could delve into Bible Codes and not believe the Bible is pure truth, I can't fathom. If he thinks it isn't truth, why bother? Why try to warn anyone? If it is truth, he should study what it says on the surface so he can get right with God before it is too late.

When Yacov Ramsel tells us that at certain skip distances, Yeshua appears frequently in the Torah, I believe it. That sounds just like something the Most High would do.

The Hebrew yshuw'ah, salvation, hints at the name of our Redeemer too. When Scripture shows that there will be a Rapture (natsal), I believe it. Both can be seen in Psa. 91.

Psa. 91:3 (KJV, so I can look up words in Strong's) says, "Surely he shall deliver (natsal, snatch away, take out, cause to escape; i.e., rapture) thee from the snare (trap) of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence."

Verses 8,9,14 and15 say, "Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked. Because thou hast made the LORD (YHWH, king of Israel, Isa. 44:6), which is my refuge, even the MOST HIGH ('his redeemer the LORD (YHWH) of hosts," Isa. 44:6; i.e., Yeshua), thy habitation;...Because he hath set his love upon me (Yeshua), therefore will I deliver (palat, take away, i.e., cause to escape, rapture) him: I will set him on high (in Heaven), because he hath known MY NAME (Yeshua). He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver (chalats, withdraw) him, and honour him. With long life (i.e., eternal life) will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation (yshuw'ah)."

When someone comes up with Bible-Code dates for future events, I don't rely on it. I have two matrixes showing that the Rapture would be on Pentecost in 1998. It didn't happen then. That proved it to me. Every letter has a numerical coefficient. There are far too many numbers for one to be considered very significant.

Another thing that has bothered me since Drosnin's first book. In my mind, it seems that the selection of the other lines in the matrix hinge upon an initial decision of where the first row lines up with the second row. Therefore, I would give more weight to words that fall in one horizontal line than to crossing words that could be erased by changing the way the matrix is created.

In other words, Ramsel's skip distances make more sense to me than a matrix with crossing words. After examining the subject, I decided I haven't time for that. There is too much to be learned yet from the surface script to give up time to Bible Codes.

> > 2006 is given for End of Days.

I think the end of the shortened Great Tribulation will probably be the Feast of Trumpets, Tishri 1, 5768 (Sept. 13, 2007). That is 40 years after the fig tree parable of Mt. 24:32-34 was fulfilled when Israel grew leaves (Sinai, West Bank, Gaza Strip and Golan Heights) in the Six-Day War of 1967.

To me, the fulfillment of that parable could not happen later than 1967, because Israel was 19 years old then. At the Exodus, all those males 20 and up were counted. Those 19 and below were considered the young.

Mt. 24:32-34 says, "Now learn a parable of the fig tree (Israel, Joel 1:6,7); When his branch (klados, scion broken off for grafting, i.e., modern Israel grafted into her old rootstock) is yet tender (apalos, soft; i.e., young), and putteth forth leaves (Golan Heights, West Bank, Gaza Strip, and Sinai), ye know that summer is nigh (the Six-Day War began June 5; summer began June 21): So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it ('the kingdom of God, Lu. 21:31) is near, even at the doors (symbol of 2 Raptures, Rev. 3:8,20; Mt. 22:11-14; 25:10). Verily I say unto you, THIS GENERATION (born in 1967) shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled."

From Mt. 23:36, we see that a generation was counted as 40 years, the same as in the days of the Exodus. In 30 AD, Yeshua said, "Verily (Amen, i.e., this is important) I say unto you (Pharisees), All these things shall come upon THIS GENERATION." They did, 40 years later. Jerusalem and the temple were destroyed in 70 AD. We may have a mirror image of that destruction in '07 AD.

> > 2) Does 2006 match up with anything you have researched

Yes. If the Pre-Trib Rapture were to take place Sivan 7, 5763 (June 7, 2003), Shavuoth (Pentecost), the 1260 days that Moses and Elijah would prophesy (Rev. 11:3) would end Heshvan 27, 5767 (Nov. 18, 2006).

It might be significant that Noah came out of the Ark on Heshvan 27 (Gen. 8:14-116). Yeshua said, "as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be" (Mt. 24:37).

If all this should turn out to be correct, the Great Tribulation, that Yeshua said would be shortened (Mt. 24:21,22), would be very short indeed. From Dec. 18, 2006 to Sept. 13, 2007 is a mere 300 days, less than one year. To start with, the 70th septet of Dan. 9:27 (the Tribulation) is 7 years, but the latter half gets shortened.

What are the alternatives? For the Day of God's Wrath on the first day of the millennial Day of the Lord, we can't move past Tishri 1, 5768 (Sept. 13, 2007), unless one generation is more than 40 years.

Let's think about this a bit. Is a longer generation possible? I can think of two ways it could be figured longer, but remember, the 40 years in the wilderness after the Exodus is repeated over and over in Scripture. The number 40 means testing and probation. Yeshua was tested in the wilderness 40 days. As Israel was tested 40 years in the wilderness, modern Israel will probably be tested 40 years also.

In Mark 13:35-37, Yeshua said, "Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house (Yeshua) cometh...Lest coming suddenly (exaiphnes, unexpectedly) he find you sleeping. And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch." There is lots to watch in these days.

On the Eve of Passover, when the Jewish Yeshua knew that he would be taken prisoner, tried and crucified, he went aside to pray to his Father. The Jews, Peter, James and John (believers in Yeshua HaMashiach) went with him until, in Mt. 26: 38-45, he said, "My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death: tarry ye here, and watch with me. And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt. And he cometh unto the disciples, and findeth them asleep, and saith unto Peter, What, COULD YE NOT WATCH WITH ME ONE HOUR? Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation (symbolically, the Tribulation): the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak." Crucifixion was a hard thing to face, even for the Son of God. He had to love us an awful lot to do this for us. He cares. That proves it.

Continuing, "He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done. And he came and found them asleep again: for their eyes were heavy. And he left them, and went away again, and prayed the third time, saying the same words. Then cometh he to his disciples (believers), and saith unto them, Sleep on now, and take your rest: behold, the hour is at hand, and the Son of man is betrayed into the hands of sinners."

Here the die was cast. He would go through with the crucifixion so believers could be saved. If he hadn't made that decision, at that critical time, all men would be lost. He was our Passover. I Cor. 5:7 says, "For even Christ (the Lamb of God) our passover is sacrificed for us." He died as the Passover lambs were being killed at the temple. His blood was shed for us.

At the Last Supper, he said, "For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins." Heb 9:22 says, "almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission."

"What, could ye not watch with me ONE HOUR?" could symbolize the time that Jewish believers, and along with them the Gentile believers, would have to watch for Yeshua HaMashiach to return in our days. Maybe our watch is one hour of a 1000-year day. 1000 divided by 24 is 41.66, or 42 years.

If so, "this generation" of Mt. 24:32-34, would be over in 5770 (2009/2010). Will that fit other things we have been told?

Right away, I see a problem. 5770 is not a Jewish Leap Year, and I think there are 7 months between the Day of God's Wrath on Tishri 1, first day of the Civil Year, and the return of Yeshua HaMachiach on the following Nisan 1, first day of the Regnal Year.

The Jews will bury the dead to cleanse the land for the return of Yeshua HaMachiach during that 7 months (Eze. 39:12,13). To have a 7-month spread between Tishri 1 and Nisan 1, that year has to have an Adar II, which only the Jewish Leap Year has. The next leap year following 5768 (2007-2008) is 5771 (2010/2011). That would leave 43 years for a generation. Is that possible?

Mt. 1:17 says, "So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations." 2030 years divided by 42 equals 48.33. 1967 plus 48 equals 2015. That seems too long considering what is happening in Iraq today.

As soon as the UN (of which the US is a member) is overseeing the administration of Iraq's government and performing a Search and Destroy of WMD in Iraq, it is no stretch of imagination to see how easy it will be to build a Capitol of the World in Babylon, Iraq.

We know that both the UN and UR (United Religions) will move their headquarters there. The world church will be moved to "the land of Shinar (where the Tower of Babel was, Gen. 11:2): and it shall be established, and set there upon her own base (the Tower of Babel) (Zech. 5:11).

I think the reason Babylon is called the land of Shinar is because Shinar means "change of the city." The UN will move from the US. The UR will move from Rome.

The harlot Mystery Religion of Babylon is the "MOTHER OF HARLOTS (pagan religions) AND ABOMINATIONS (idols) OF THE EARTH" (Rev. 17:5). The headquarters of this world church is Rome in Rev. 17:18. It says, "the woman which thou sawest is that great city (Rome), which reigneth over the kings of the earth." I think the Pope will be put in charge of the UN (Rev. 13:3-10). This makes it imperative that Vatican City move to Babylon, Iraq. It has been moved there in Rev. 18, but on the Day of God's Wrath, the asteroid of Rev. 8:10 will wipe Babylon from the face of the Earth. No man will walk there again. What Iraq wanted to do to the Jews will return on her own head.

The UN army, ("all nations," Zech. 14:2) will attack Israel (Eze. 38). This brings on God's Wrath. The asteroid of Rev. 8:8 will impact the Mediterranean Sea. Only 1/6th of Gog's army will be alive after that (Eze. 39:2). Those are the bodies the Jews will bury for 7 months to cleanse the land for Yeshua's return as "KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS" (Rev. 19:16). His kingdom will finally come on Earth as it is in Heaven, as the Lord's Prayer says.

Zech. 14:5 says, "and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee." These saints are the believers that were taken to Heaven in the Pre-Wrath Rapture and the Pre-Wrath Rapture.

Regarding the UN army led by Gog, Eze 39:2-4 says, "I will turn thee back, and leave but the sixth part of thee, and will cause thee to come up from the north parts, and will bring thee upon the mountains of Israel: And I will smite thy bow out of thy left hand, and will cause thine arrows to fall out of thy right hand. Thou shalt fall upon the mountains of Israel, thou, and all thy bands, and the people that is with thee: I will give thee unto the ravenous birds of every sort, and to the beasts of the field to be devoured."

The believers are caught up in the Pre-Wrath Rapture before the asteroids impact Earth at noon. Zeph. 2:1-5 says, "Gather yourselves together, yea, gather together, O nation not desired (Israel, fulfilled in 1948); Before the decree bring forth, before the day pass as the chaff, before the fierce anger of the LORD come upon you, before the day of the LORD'S anger come upon you. Seek ye the LORD, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be ye shall be hid (caught up to Heaven in the Pre-Wrath Rapture) in the day of the LORD'S anger. For Gaza shall be forsaken (bye, bye Arafat's headquarters there), and Ashkelon a desolation: they shall drive out Ashdod at the noon day, and Ekron shall be rooted up. Woe unto the inhabitants of the sea coast."

The Day of the LORD'S Anger will also be the day that all Israel will be saved in a day (Isa. 66:8). Those that accept Yeshua HaMashiach after the Pre-Wrath Rapture has taken place that day will live on into the Millennium on Earth.

It is foretold that the USA will do things for Israel. 2Sa 7:23 says, "what one (echad, united) nation in the earth is like thy people, even like Israel (the United States), whom God went to redeem for a people to himself, and to make him a name, and to do for you great things and terrible, for thy land, before thy people, which thou redeemedst to thee from Egypt, from the nations and their gods?"

If left alone, Saddam would probably try to use WMD to obliterate Israel. He seems to be obsessed with that idea. It can't be allowed to happen. Our Lord Yeshua HaMashiach won't allow that to happen. Israel will be punished for her unbelief, but she is here to stay.
Agape

Incoming email, Re: UN TO RUN IRAQ

Today, March 18, 2003, the UN met to make plans to control/rebuild Iraq after the war. That arm of the UN will be called, "UN ADMINISTRATION OF IRAQ."

This is one more dot in connect the dots in Biblical prophecy.

Bush is also making plans to start the final peace process in Israel after the Iraqi war. This is another dot to connect.

My reply

Thanks for keeping me posted.

I can see this step leading to the Capital of the World being built at Babylon. If the Un is administering the government of Iraq, as well as disarming Iraq, the job would be easier if their headquarters was moved to Iraq.

I keep wondering what is hidden underground at Babylon too. Love

U.N. to rule Iraq?

By Toby Westerman
http://www.canadiangrassroots.ca/sections.php?op=printpage&artid=1803

...The U.N. SHOULD GOVERN IRAQ following the forced exile of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein, according to a plan being considered by several European nations. The proposal for U.N. ADMINISTRATION OF IRAQ comes as the U.S. and several leading European nations remain in stark disagreement over a possible U.S.-led attack on Iraq. U.N. ADMINISTRATION OF IRAQ - as well as increased talk of Saddam's exile - have found a powerful advocate in Euro radical Marco Pannella, who leads a group named "Alternative to Violence."...

Incoming email

What a fascinating website you have here.
Please could you help me locate the writings of Rabbi Max Wertheimer I have his life story and his testimony and his story about his involvement in Christian Science but I am looking for other writings, namely his one called, "satan".
In Jesus
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How a Rabbi Found Peace
By Dr. Max Wertheimer
http://www.goodnewsforisrael.org/articles/testimony.html

BORN OF ORTHODOX JEWISH PARENTS...

From the age of five to fifteen my training was in orthodox Judaism. At the age of 16 my parents decided to send me to America to pursue my classical education at the Hebrew Union College in Cincinnati, Ohio. After seven years I graduated from it, having meanwhile also taken my degrees in letters and Hebrew literature, and four years later, my Master's degree.

I Am Ordained As A Rabbi
...My first call was to Dayton, Ohio, where I officiated as rabbi for ten years....

In 1895, a series of meetings was held in the Christian Church at Dayton. I stood proudly before that audience of professing Christians and told them why I was a Jew, and would not believe in their Christ as my Messiah and Saviour. I gloried in Reformed Judaism that acknowledged no need of an atoning sacrifice for sin. In the audience sat a humble aged woman, a devout Christian, who was deeply stirred as she listened. "O God," she prayed, "bring Dr. Wertheimer to realize his utter need of that Saviour he so boastingly rejects."...

A Woman's Cry Changed My Life
What unforeseen forces were brought into action, as a result of that unknown woman's heart-cry!...

But suddenly there came a change! My wife was taken seriously ill, and in spite of many physicians and specialists, she died, leaving me distraught widower with two little children. My dreams of a successful career and serene domestic life were all shattered. Where was comfort to be found? The heaven seemed brass when I called on the God of my fathers! How could I speak, as a rabbi, words of comfort to others when my own sorrow had brought me to despair? The tenth year of my rabbinical office drew to its close. I decided not to accept re-election, and resigned. I wanted to think things over. I would study! I would turn to my Bible!

I Study Judaism And Isaiah 53
I also began reading the New Testament and comparing it with the Old. One chapter in the Prophet Isaiah the 53rd made a definite impression on me, especially the eleventh verse, last clause of that verse: "By his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many, for he shall bear their iniquities." Here was the only mention in the whole Bible of that phrase, "My righteous servant." It is found nowhere else in the Word of God in either Testament. We have "David, my servant but here it is "My righteous servant." I said to myself: "Who is that righteous servant? To whom does the prophet refer?" I argued: Whoever that 'righteous servant' of Jehovah is, of one thing I am sure: he is not Israel, because the same prophet, in an earlier chapter, declares Israel to be a sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a leprous nation. The righteous servant of Jehovah must be One Who is holy. If it is not Israel, who could it be? I decided it must be Isaiah. But in Isaiah 6, I found it could never be the prophet, for he confesses himself to be a guilty sinner and a man of unclean lips in God's sight. "My righteous servant." Who could it be? Then I began to study context of this fifty-third chapter. In Isaiah 50:6 I found, "I gave my back to the smiters." I pondered: Who gave his back to the smiters? In the beginning of the chapter it says: "Thus saith Jehovah." Jehovah is the only speaker in the chapter. Jehovah, then, gave His back to the smiters? Had God a back? When and why was it smitten? Who smote it? Further I read: "I gave my cheeks to them that plucked off the hair." And still further: "I hid not my face from shame and spitting." What did all this mean? Who had been so abused? When? Why? Did Jehovah have all these human characteristics? I studied more and more various prophetic utterances. In Psalm 110:1 it is written: "The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool." Here was David himself, speaking of his own seed and calling Him "Lord." How did He get up there?

In confusion I decided to begin at the first chapter of Isaiah and read the book through. I was stopped at the ninth: "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given, and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and His name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." Here was a most incomprehensive thing! How can a "child" born of a woman, a "son," be called the "Mighty God," the "Everlasting Father"?

Adonai, Elohynu, Adonai Echod
I was then faced with the doctrine of the Trinity. "Sh'ma Yisroel, Adonai, Elohynu. Adonai, Echod." The word "echod" means one. Taught by the rabbis for ages, that word "Echod" meant absolute unity. I began to study the word, and I discovered it meant, not absolute unity, but composite unity. Let me illustrate. Adam and Eve became one flesh; the Hebrew for one flesh is bosor echod, a composite unity. Moses sent twelve spies into Canaan, and they returned bearing a gigantic bunch of grapes. That cluster of grapes is called in Hebrew eshcol-echod. With hundreds of grapes on the stem it could not have been absolute unity; they are called in Hebrew "one cluster." These and other Scriptures showed conclusively that echod does not signify an absolute unity.

The Name Jesus
Another problem succeeded it: "Why is the name Jesus never mentioned in the Hebrew Scriptures?" I studied this question. Imagine my surprise when I found that 275 years before Christ, King Ptolemy Philadelphus summoned men from Israel, and bade them translate the Hebrew Scriptures into the Greek vernacular. They took the Pentateuch first and when they came to the name "Joshua" they translated it as "Yesous," written with a circumflex over it to show that there had been a suppression of a Hebrew letter that could not be expressed in Greek. When Joshua went into Canaan with the other eleven spies, he was called "Yehoshua" (Jehovah is the Saviour). That is exactly what the name "Jesus" means. I could hold out no longer; I was convinced of the truth that God was revealed in Messiah Jesus. I cried: "Lord, I believe that Thou as Yeshua hast made the atonement for me. I believe that Yeshua died for me! From henceforth I will publicly confess Yeshua as my Saviour and Lord!" Thus after months of searching I was convinced that Jesus was the righteous servant of Jehovah (Jehovah-tsidkenu), "The Lord our righteousness"!

The Resurrection And The Life...
But to the heart-broken how satisfying and glorious are the words of our Messiah Jesus Christ: "I am the resurrection and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: and whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die."

These words became fact when Jesus Christ died for your sins. He became your substitute and took the punishment for your sins upon Himself that you can be Free of Sin and have Eternal Life. This precept of substitution of one dying for another is a basic teaching in our Jewish Bible and in Jewish Tradition. Consider our holiday of Yom Kippur and read the story of Abraham and Isaac in chapter 22 of Genesis in our Jewish Bible. Here we see this principle explained when God Himself provided a substitute in the place of Isaac. Jesus, our Messiah, is your God given substitute. He died so that you through faith in Him should live. There is but one source of eternal life and that is Jesus Christ, God's son, the Messiah of Israel. The great comforting message that I, Rabbi Max Wertheimer, am bringing to you today is that you by faith should accept Jesus Christ as your Messiah and have new and eternal life. This is what it means to be saved.
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"FROM RABBINISM TO CHRIST, The Story of My Life,"
by MAX WERTHEIMER, PH.D.
Author of
“Why I Left Christian Science”
“Satan,” Etc.
http://www.all-of-grace.org/pub/wertheimer/rabbinism.html

My reply

Thanks for your kind words and for bringing his writings to my attention. His testimony is great. I hope to have time to read all of the story of his life. I found the following address. Maybe you can find out where to get his writing about Satan there. Agape

"If you have any questions regarding the Christian faith, feel free to contact the author’s great-grandson, Rev. Stephen Pribble, Grace Orthodox Presbyterian Church, Box 306, Holt, MI 48842."

Incoming email

Is there a recording of a shopar on the internet? Thanks

My reply

Try this:
Shofar sound available by phone
... Shofar sound available by phone. The healing sound of the shofar (ram's horn) can be heard
www.jewishaz.com/jewishnews/990903/shofar.shtml
Agape

Incoming email, Re: We agree on Mary

This letter is about Mary, the mother of Jesus. I fully give you credit for being the finest Bible scholar alive and I mean that. I have disagreed with you about Catholics in general since you are not a Catholic and therefore, in my opinion, not an expert in the Catholic experience.

I started going to Baptist Bible study when I was a babe in arms due to my mother going and taking me along. I continued in that Baptist church and Bible study until I left home for college. In 1994, I became a Catholic. Had to go through almost a year of Catholic Bible study before I could become a Catholic. Mary was not a subject of study in this group other than she was the mother of Jesus. Jesus was the only way to salvation for this group.

The Catholic priest had numerous conversations with me since I had more understanding of the Bible than the others did. In our private conversations, I brought up the fact, according to Catholic dogma, Mary was a virgin all her life. We know Jesus had siblings. The priest smiled and said as long as we accept Christ as savior, we can disagree on external Catholic dogma. My opinion was he didn't believe that about Mary, either.

I also brought up the idea the Pope was infallible because I didn't buy that. His response was the Pope is no different than other humans in his daily life and could make mistakes as we all can. It is only when the Pope makes official written decisions that guide the church that he is considered to be infallible and he said we could disagree about that. I compare the church's opinion he is infallible to our president when he makes a decision to act on behalf of our country. We can argue about his decision, but it is his decision that prevails and goes forward. A president can totally screw up his private life, Bill Clinton being a prime example. Once the Pope makes a written decision about church business, that's it. He is the CEO of the Catholic church. My opinion was the priest didn't think the Pope was infallible even in that regard. When the general public, such as yourself, hears the church thinks the Pope is infallible, you and others interpret that as he is supposed to be perfect all the time. Even the Catholic hierarchy doesn't believe that. What he believes/does in his personal life is different and subject to error.

Pope John Paul, as he has gotten older, has personally embraced Mary to the extent he is in total error. He relies on her to protect him. Hogwash. Our CEO has lost it. If he, and not the next Pope, is to be the anti-christ, his delusions about Mary may help that come about.

There are numerous people, Catholics and others, over the world who claim to have seen Mary, claim to be healed of illness by her, seen her in dreams, etc. These claims are no different to me than the reports of dreams and the like, reported by Jim Bramlett and others. You have posted a number of these and I don't believe them any more than I believe those about Mary because humans have human brains colored by their life experiences and individual belief system.

So, in looking at the big picture of world events at the moment, I think God is allowing the promotion of Mary in order to connect the end times with the mystery religion of Babylon that so offended Him. We know people will be deceived by modern mystery religions and they will be struck down, whether this is Mary as savior, mother earth, white magic, black magic, new age, any religious belief of the individual that does not have Jesus as savior.

In conclusion, in order to have maximum effect in these last days, I think we need to stop quibbling about earthly organized religions of any denomination since they are fraught with error, and concentrate only on the heavenly religion which means concentrating on each individual and whether or not he/she believes in Jesus as savior. The only criteria to be used to be included in either rapture is belief in Jesus as the savior of the world. And, as I have said before, the Pope is on his own, sink or swim, and must answer as we all must, to the heavenly religion. Love, a member of the Heavenly Religion of Jesus Christ.

My reply

Thanks for your kind words.

> > When the general public, such as yourself, hears the church thinks the Pope is infallible, you and others interpret that as he is supposed to be perfect all the time.

I understand that he is supposed to be infallible only when he speaks ex cathedra. Rev. Francis J. Ripley's book, "This is the Faith, An explanation of Catholic teachings for the layman," says on p. 162, "4. The Roman Pontiff exercises his prerogative of personal infallibility when he speaks ex cathedra--that is, when, in the exercise of his office as Shepherd and Teacher of all Christians, he defines a doctrine concerning faith or morals to be held by the whole Church.

"5. We are bound to believe with divine and Catholic faith truths concerning faith or morals that the Church proposes for acceptance by all the faithful, whether by her ordinary and universal authority or by some solemn pronouncement.

"6. A truth thus defined is called a 'Dogma of the Faith'; denial of it is called "heresy."

I agree that the Pope is on his own, sink or swim. Whoever will be The Beast of Rev. 13:3-10 will not go in the Pre-Trib Rapture even though he is the ancient and honourable. Isa 9:15 says, "The ancient and honourable, he is the head (6th head of the great red dragon); and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail." The False Prophet is the 7th head, and because he is Satan possessed, he is also the tail of the great red dragon.

You are so right that we all must believe in Jesus Christ. There is no other Saviour. Thank the Lord that if we are right about Christ, we can be wrong on some other things and still make it to Heaven. None of us is perfect. Love

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