Pro and Con 1037

Posted 9-1-02

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Zion's Cry PROPHECY NEWS, by Rev. Carolu Joy
CaroluJoy@prodigy.net

I AM The DOOR
If anyone enters through Me, he will be saved. Words of Yeshua Jesus the Christ of GOD in John 10:9

Some scold me for not publishing the Salvation message of Christians. That is not the primary function or purpose of this NEWS Letter. I AM a Christian. I DO hold the bible to be the Word of Almighty GOD, Creator. I want my Jewish subscribers to be comfortable with the NEWS I send. However, if my last publication should come, I would like to leave a legacy that I AM a BELIEVER in my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ! ...

Unlike the uncertainty of other religions, Christians KNOW we are going to Heaven - for SURE! The READL Christians have no doubt. SALVATION is FREE, by Grace and Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, GOD's only Son. There is Salvation NOwhere else in NO one else. Jesus (Yeshua) is the ONLY DOOR to Heaven, to GOD!! All who reject the Christ are in HELL forever. After Salvation, we OBEY the word of GOD. This is NOT works Salvations, it is the RESULT of Salvation. We are not saved by any good works.

Many get saved, but afterwards fall away. Those on the rocky soil are those who, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no firm root; they believe for a while, and in time of temptation fall away. Luke 8:13 DO NOT BE DECEIVED! If a saved person practices SIN, he WILL die spiritually. The prodigal is a clear example of this. The end result of sin is spiritual death and HELL. Romans 8:13 If you are living according to the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live. - Jude 1:3-4 I urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints. For certain men whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are godless men, who change the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord. - and 2 John 1:9 Anyone who goes too far and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God; the one who abides in the teaching, he has both the Father and the Son....

LIFE is a constant BALANCE between Faith, Grace, trusting Jesus Christ alone for SALVATION, realizing we can never be perfect enough to earn Heaven, yet striving daily to follow the LORD and the Bible, the word of GOD. To choose to kill the baby within you, to choose to become drunk on alcohol or drugs, to choose to live a sinful lifestyle living sexually with someone outside of marriage, are sins that will damn you to hell. - http://www.revlu.com/salv.html

(From your cited file on your web site:)
...But there is another important aspect of eternal life that many are totally unaware of in our day because of the false teaching of once saved always saved. According to true grace teaching, eternal life is also a HOPE. Yet to be REAPED in the AGE TO COME for only the ones who PERSIST IN DOING GOOD and DO NOT GROW WEARY AND GIVE UP....

DO NOT BE DECEIVED!
If a saved person sows to please his sinful nature he'll die spiritually. The prodigal is a clear example The end result of sin is spiritual death, HELL.

If you are living according to the flesh, you must die but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live. Romans 8:13

The one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life. Let us not lose heart in doing good, for in due time we will reap if we do not grow weary. Galations 6:8-9...

James 1:14-16 Each one is tempted when he is carried away and enticed by his own lust. Then when lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and when sin is accomplished, it brings forth death. Do not be deceived, my beloved brethren.

Because of the false teaching of once saved always saved, grace has been taught as a license for immorality for so long, and without challenge, that when Scripture is quoted, such as 1 Corinthians 6:9,10 or Revelation 21:8, it isdisregarded, and the giver of God's Word is falsely accused of teaching legalism, bondage, works, etc.This reflects how truly dark are the days in which we live!

1 Corinitains 6:9 The unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God. Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, (abusers of themselves with mankind) nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. (emphasis is mine)

My reply

Thanks for sending me the news. I am thankful that you believe in Jesus Christ as our only Saviour and in the Pre-Trib Rapture. However, we differ on whether or not we are "once saved always saved." I think we have eternal security. You think we do not. On your web site, you spoke of the "false teaching of once saved always saved."

If the saved could be lost, they couldn't be saved again. Heb. 5:4-6 says, "it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost ('the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.' Eph. 4:30), And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame."

Please consider Gal. 3:1-3. Paul said, "O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? ARE YE SO FOOLISH? HAVING BEGUN IN THE SPIRIT, ARE YE NOW MADE PERFECT BY THE FLESH?"

> > DO NOT BE DECEIVED! If a saved person practices SIN, he WILL die spiritually....

That person will be out of fellowship with our Holy God, not lost. His sin will build a sin barrier between him and God. To break down that barrier and get back in fellowship, he must confess his sin to God.

I John 1:4-9 says, "these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full. This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light (i.e., has no sin), and in him is no darkness (i.e., sin) at all. If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness (i.e., sin), we lie, and do not the truth: But if we walk in the light (not sinning), as he is in the light (not sinning), we have FELLOWSHIP one with another, and THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST HIS SON CLEANSETH US FROM ALL SIN. If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. IF WE CONFESS OUR SINS, HE IS FAITHFUL AND JUST TO FORGIVE US OUR SINS, AND TO CLEANSE US FROM ALL UNRIGHTEOUSNESS."

The difference between the Philadelphian church, for whom Jesus has no words of condemnation, and the Laodicean church, who has no white garment is that the former have obviously confessed their sins to bring them under the blood of Christ. Therefore, they are wearing white robes of righteousness. The latter did not. They have eyes but can't see. They will be left behind at the Pre-Trib Rapture and be caught up later in the Pre-Wrath Rapture. What makes the difference? Rev. 7:14 tells us: "These are they which came out of GREAT TRIBULATION (the last half of the Tribulation), and have WASHED THEIR ROBES, AND MADE THEM WHITE IN THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB." Confessing our sins washes our robes in the blood of Christ.

> > To choose to kill the baby within you, to choose to become drunk on alcohol or drugs, to choose to live a sinful lifestyle living sexually with someone outside of marriage, are sins that will damn you to hell. - http://www.revlu.com/salv.html

Only one sin will damn us to hell--not believing in Jesus Christ. Only one thing will save us from hell--believing in Jesus Christ. God decided that. We can't change it.

(From your web site:)
> > FALSE TEACHING OF ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED...
> > DO NOT BE DECEIVED!
> > If a saved person sows to please his sinful nature he'll die spiritually....

He won't die spiritually, but the level of the Spirit of Christ in him will be lower. He can't lose his sealing, but he will be quenching the Holy Spirit of Christ. When he confesses his sin to bring it under the blood of Christ, the level of the Spirit of Christ will well up within him like a "fountain of living waters." (Jer. 2:13). In Rev. 21:6, Jesus said, "I am Alpha (YHWH King of Israel) and Omega (YHWH of hosts, the Redeemer, Isa. 44:6), the beginning (LORD of the Old Testament) and the end (Lord of the New Testament). I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely."

> > If you are living according to the flesh, you must die but IF BY THE SPIRIT you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live. Romans 8:13 (emphasis mine)

Notice that it says, "IF BY THE SPIRIT." If we don't have the Spirit of Christ, putting to death the deeds of the body still will not save us. We would die in our sins. (emphasis mine)

If we have the Holy Spirit of Christ, our "OLD SINS" (II Peter 1:9) are wiped off the slate. We get a fresh start. If we have the Holy Spirit of Christ, we have put to death the deeds of the body up to that point. We are saved and will live eternally. What we do after that point either gains or loses us rewards. We can't earn Salvation, but we can work for rewards after being saved.

I Cor. 3:9-15 says, "every man (believer, v. 5) shall receive his own REWARD according to his own labour. For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building. According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. IF ANY MAN'S WORK SHALL BE BURNED, HE SHALL SUFFER LOSS: BUT HE HIMSELF SHALL BE SAVED; yet so as by fire."

The Spirit of Christ is the same as the Spirit of God. Rom. 8:8-13 (KJV) says, "they that are in the flesh (unsaved) cannot please God. But ye are not in the flesh (unsaved), but in the Spirit (saved), if so be that the SPIRIT OF GOD dwell in you. Now if any man have not the SPIRIT OF CHRIST, he is none of his. And IF CHRIST BE IN YOU, THE BODY IS DEAD BECAUSE OF SIN; BUT THE SPIRIT IS LIFE BECAUSE OF RIGHTEOUSNESS. But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies BY HIS SPIRIT THAT DWELLETH IN YOU. Therefore, brethren (believers), we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye THROUGH THE SPIRIT do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live."

We have body and spirit, the old man and the new man, warring against each other. In Rom. 7:23, Paul said, "I see another law in my members (i.e., body), warring against the law of my mind (i.e., spirit, Eph. 4:23), and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members" (body). Even though we have the new man (spirit) that can't sin, while in this body, we still have the old sin nature.

Eph. 4:22-24 says, "put off concerning the former conversation the OLD MAN, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; And BE RENEWED IN THE SPIRIT OF YOUR MIND; And that ye put on the NEW MAN, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness."

> > Because of the false teaching of once saved always saved, grace has been taught as a license for immorality for so long, and without challenge, that when Scripture is quoted, such as 1 Corinthians 6:9,10 or Revelation 21:8, it is disregarded, and the giver of God's Word is falsely accused of teaching legalism, bondage, works, etc. This reflects how truly dark are the days in which we live!

I Cor. 6:9-11 says, "Know ye not that the UNRIGHTEOUS (i.e., unsaved) shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you: BUT YE (believers) ARE WASHED, BUT YE ARE SANCTIFIED, BUT YE ARE JUSTIFIED IN THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS, AND BY THE SPIRIT OF OUR GOD."

Rev. 21:6-8 says, "It is done. I am Alpha (YHWH King of Israel) and Omega (YHWH of hosts, the Redeemer, Isa. 44:6), the beginning (LORD of the Old Testament) and the end (Lord of the New Testament). I will give unto him that is athirst of the FOUNTAIN OF THE WATER OF LIFE freely. He (the believer) that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But the fearful, AND UNBELIEVING, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." Their unbelief dooms them. Agape

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Aliyah Myers (24 June 2003)
"Rapture In SOS"
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The Song of Solomon is more than a beautiful song and poem Solomon wrote for one of his wives. It is a love letter from Jesus Christ to His people the BODY OF CHRIST, the church with out spot or wrinkle (SOS 4:27; Eph 5:27). Jesus is the beloved and the church is the Shulamite. It is full of current and future descriptions of our relationship with Christ. It also reveals and corroborates prophecy. Read it with an open mind and you will start to see these relationships. One prophecy that it reveals is the 'rapture' or 'catching away' of the church.

Song of Solomon 2:10-14
10 My beloved spoke, and said to me: "Rise up, my love, my fair one, and come away.
11 For lo, the winter is past, the rain is over and gone.
12 The flowers appear on the earth; the time of singing has come, and the voice of the turtledove is heard in our land.
13 The fig tree PUTS FORTH HER GREEN FIGS, and the vines with the tender grapes give a good smell. Rise up, my love, my fair one, and come away! (NKJ)

Notice here that the beloved is speaking to his bride. He says, 'Rise up and come away' two times a witness. Also notice that it is summer since the fruit is on the trees and vines.

Jeremiah 8:20 "The harvest is past, the summer is ended, and we are not saved!" (NKJ)

Here Jeremiah laments that they are not saved. This is after the rapture. What a miserable feeling it would be to be left behind. Notice also that according to the verse the rapture (HARVEST) occurs before summer ends.

Matthew 24:32-33
32 "Now learn this parable from the fig tree: When its branch has already become tender and puts forth leaves, you know that summer is near.
33 "So you also, when you see all these things, know that it is near-- at the doors! (NKJ)

Luke 21:29-31
29 Then He spoke to them a parable: "Look at the fig tree, and all the trees.
30 "When they are already budding, you see and know for yourselves that summer is now near.
31 "So you also, when you see these things happening, know that the kingdom of God is near. (NKJ)

The fig tree and all the trees are budding (it is springtime). But, notice that in the song He calls us away during the summer since the fruit is already on the trees and vines.

Song of Solomon 4:7 You are all fair, my love, and there is no spot in you. (NKJ)
Shalom, Aliyah

My reply

> > He says, 'Rise up and come away' two times a witness. Also notice that it is summer since the fruit is on the trees and vines.
> > Jeremiah 8:20 "The harvest is past, the summer is ended, and we are not saved!" (NKJ)
> > Here Jeremiah laments that they are not saved. This is after the rapture.

I agree that Song of Solomon 2:10-14 seems like the Rapture--the Pre-Trib Rapture. However, Jer. 8:20 sounds to me like the second Rapture--the Pre-Wrath Rapture on Tishri 1, the Feast of Trumpets.

Jer. 8:10 says, "from the prophet (False Prophet)even unto the priest (the Beast, Tribulation Pope) every one dealeth falsely. For they have healed the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace. Verse 19 says, "Why have they provoked me to anger with their graven images...?"

The Pre-Wrath Rapture is the harvest of Rev. 14-14-17. It says, "I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man (Jesus Christ), having on his head a golden crown (it's the first day of his millennial reign), and in his hand a sharp sickle. And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to REAP; FOR THE HARVEST OF THE EARTH IS RIPE. And he that sat on the cloud (in the air, not on Earth) thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped."

This reaping is to gather the Tribulation saints to the general assembly in Heaven (Heb. 12:23). It is on the Day of God's Wrath. It just takes place in the night or morning before the asteroids of Rev. 8:8,10 impact Earth at noon (Zeph. 2:2-4).

After the Tribulation saints are caught up, the unbelievers on Earth will be cast "into the great winepress of the wrath of God" (Rev. 14:19). Agape

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God bless you Marilyn :o)
Please help me with this....again : o)

You believe in 2 Raptures, pre-trib and pre-wrath.

1.. as I understand you, pre-trib are believers caught up at the sound of the trumpet and being called to 'come up hither'. This will be at the beginning of the 7 years of tribulation.

2. pre-wrath are 'believers' who were left behind and tribulation saints.

a. at the pre-wrath rapture, is a trumpet sounded and they are called to 'come up hither?

b. is this pre-wrath rapture at the start of the Great Tribulation (3 1/2 years into the tribulation) BEFORE the antichrist requires all to take the mark of the beast?

c. if this IS before the antichrist requires the mark, what will these people be martyred for doing before the mark is implemented? NOT taking the mark will clearly identify them but if it is BEFORE the mark, what will they be martyred for?

d. what determines a 'believer' being left behind? is the blood of Jesus not enough to assure our eternal salvation and our everlasting life in heaven?

e. would you consider that being 'accounted worthy', mentioned in Luke 21:36, as being directed to the Jewish people for the Second Coming?

f. how can a truly born-again believer, covered by the blood of Jesus, be left behind for any part of the tribulation if God has promised us He will deliver us from the wrath to come and we can do NOTHING for ourselves?.....ie....."it is finished".
tks Marilyn, God bless you and your family.

My reply

> > a. at the pre-wrath rapture, is a trumpet sounded and they are called to 'come up hither?
I Thess. 4:16 tells of the first "trump of God." That is the Pre-Trib Rapture before the Tribulation begins.

There are two trumps of God prefigured by Nu. 10:1-4. It says, "the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Make thee TWO TRUMPETS OF SILVER; of a whole piece shalt thou make them: that thou mayest use them (both) for the calling of the assembly (i.e., the general assembly in Heaven, Heb. 12:23), and for the journeying of the camps. And when they shall blow with them (both), all the assembly (i.e., the saints of both Raptures, on the day of the Pre-Wrath Rapture) shall assemble themselves to thee at the door (symbol of a Rapture, Rev. 3:8; 4:1) of the tabernacle of the congregation. And if they blow but with ONE TRUMPET, then the princes, which are heads of the thousands of Israel (i.e., the 12 patriarchs and the 12 apostles), shall gather themselves unto thee."

It will be the first day of Christ's millennial kingdom. In the heavenly New Jerusalem "the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel" and "the names of the twelve apostles" are seen (Rev. 21:12,14).

In Rev. 4:1,4, we can see that all 24 elders, the 12 patriarchs and the 12 apostles, John included, are seated on thrones and wearing crowns right after the Pre-Trib Rapture.

I Cor. 15:51,52 mentions "the last trump." It is the Pre-Wrath Rapture. The reason both trumpets are sounded on the Day of God's Wrath can be seen in Mt. 24:31 and Mark 13:27.

Mt. 24:31 says, "he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet (the first trumpet sounds again), and they shall gather together his elect (all the saints that were caught up to Heaven in the Pre-Trib Rapture) from the four winds, from one end of HEAVEN to the other."

Mark 13:27 says, "then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect (all the saints from both Raptures) from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the EARTH (the Pre-Wrath Rapture) to the uttermost part of HEAVEN" (those that had been in Heaven ever since the Pre-Trib Rapture).

Whether or not the Tribulation saints will hear the exact words "Come up hither," I don't know, but it will be something close. Those of the first Rapture hear it (Rev. 4:1). The two witnesses, Moses and Elijah will hear it 3.5 days past Mid-Trib (Rev. 11:9,12).

Rev. 14:14-16 tells us about Christ, the Son of Man, sitting on a cloud, wearing his golden crown and reaping the ripe "harvest of the earth" with a sickle. That's the Pre-Wrath Rapture, but it doesn't say, "Come up hither."

Rev. 18:4 seems to be the last Rapture. It says, "And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, COME OUT OF HER, MY PEOPLE, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues."

> > b. is this pre-wrath rapture at the start of the Great Tribulation (3 1/2 years into the tribulation) BEFORE the antichrist requires all to take the mark of the beast?

It's at the end of the shortened Tribulation, on the Day of God's Wrath, the first day of Christ's millennial kingdom. Rev. 7:14 says that this great multitude that can't be numbered out of all nations "are they which came out of GREAT TRIBULATION, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb." That is the last Rapture. After that comes destruction at noon.

Psa. 91:1-16 speaks of this day. It says, "He that dwelleth in the secret place (Heaven) of the most High (the Redeemer [Isa. 44:6], Yeshua HaMashiac, Jesus Christ) shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty (Christ, Rev. 1:8). I will say of the LORD, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust. Surely he shall DELIVER (natsal, snatch away, make to escape, take out, rapture; i.e., at the Pre-Wrath Rapture) thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence. He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings (Saturn's rings often look like wings) shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler. Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day; Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for THE DESTRUCTION THAT WASTETH AT NOONDAY (the 2 asteroid impacts, Rev. 8:8,10). A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee. ONLY WITH THINE EYES SHALT THOU BEHOLD AND SEE THE REWARD OF THE WICKED. Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my refuge, even the most High (the Redeemer, Yeshua HaMashiach, Isa. 44:6), thy habitation; There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling. For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways. They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone. Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet. Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver (palat, take away, make to escape; i.e., in the Pre-Wrath Rapture) him: I WILL SET HIM ON HIGH (in Heaven), BECAUSE HE HATH KNOWN MY NAME (Yeshua HaMashiach, Jesus Christ). He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver (chalats, withdraw, cause to depart, take away; i.e., in the Pre-Wrath Rapture) him, and honour him. With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my SALVATION (YSHUW'AH)."

Zeph. 2:1-5 says, "Gather yourselves together, yea, gather together, O nation not desired; Before the decree bring forth, before the day pass as the chaff, before the fierce ANGER OF THE LORD come upon you, before the day of the LORD's anger come upon you. Seek ye the LORD, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; SEEK RIGHTEOUSNESS, seek meekness: IT MAY BE YE SHALL BE HID (i.e., Raptured) IN THE DAY OF THE LORD'S ANGER. For Gaza shall be forsaken, and Ashkelon a desolation: they shall drive out Ashdod at the NOON DAY, and Ekron shall be rooted up. Woe unto the inhabitants of the sea coast."

> > c. if this IS before the antichrist requires the mark, what will these people be martyred for doing before the mark is implemented? NOT taking the mark will clearly identify them but if it is BEFORE the mark, what will they be martyred for?

The False Prophet comes to his full power in Rev. 6:7,8. Then in Rev. 6:9-11, we read about the martyrs. They are the ones that don't take the mark of the beast.

> > d. what determines a 'believer' being left behind? is the blood of Jesus not enough to assure our eternal salvation and our everlasting life in heaven?

The wise virgins have enough oil of the Holy Spirit. Jesus didn't have any words of condemnation for the Philadelphians. That means that they have already confessed their sins committed after they accept Christ to bring them under the blood of Christ. They are not told to buy of him white garments, as the Laodiceans are told. Those wearing white robes of righteousness will be the Bride of Christ that will be caught up to Heaven before the Tribulation.

All the foolish virgins, Laodiceans and converts during the Tribulation will be caught up in the Pre-Wrath Rapture. They will have to go through the Tribulation, because they weren't ready the first time. Between the two Raptures, all the saints will be in Heaven when God's Wrath is poured over Earth.

Rev. 11:15-18 describes the first day of the millennial reign of Christ. It says, "the seventh angel sounded (the 7th trumpet); and there were great voices IN HEAVEN, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and HE SHALL REIGN for ever and ever. And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats (thrones), fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, We give thee thanks, O LORD God Almighty, which art (at the 2nd Rapture), and wast (at the 1st Rapture), and art to come (the 2nd Advent is 7 months after this, Eze. 39:12,13); because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. And the nations were angry (Gog's army is attacking Israel), and THY WRATH IS COME, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged (at the Judgment Seat of Christ), and that thou shouldest give REWARD unto thy servants the prophets, and to THE SAINTS, and them that fear thy name, SMALL AND GREAT; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth."

> > e. would you consider that being 'accounted worthy', mentioned in Luke 21:36, as being directed to the Jewish people for the Second Coming?

No. They are to "escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man" (at the Pre-Trib Rapture.

> > f. how can a truly born-again believer, covered by the blood of Jesus, be left behind for any part of the tribulation if God has promised us He will deliver us from the wrath to come and we can do NOTHING for ourselves?.....ie ....."it is finished".

Both Raptures are before the Wrath of God hits Earth. We can't lose our salvation, but to be caught up before the Tribulation is a prize we can work for.

In I Cor. 2:24-27, Paul said, "Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the PRIZE? So run, that ye may obtain. And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible (Rev. 3:11). I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air: But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a CASTAWAY."

Luke 12:46 says, "The lord of that servant (the foolish one) will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder (lit., cut him off; i.e., with the twoedged sword of His mouth, Rev. 1:16), and will appoint him his portion (the shortened Tribulation) with the UNBELIEVERS." Mt. 24:51 adds, "And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites (pretenders): there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

This is the man without a wedding garment cast outside Heaven's door in Mt. 22:10-14. It says, " the wedding was furnished with guests. And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment: And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness (outside the door darkness), there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." Agape

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