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I think Isa. 17 is talking about the destruction on the Day of God's wrath. That will be the end of the shortened Tribulation of Mt. 24:21,22. That will be the day the cities of the nations fall in the worldwide earthquake (Rev. 16:18,19).
Isa. 17:1-3 says, "The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap. The cities of Aroer (Amman, Jordan) are forsaken: they shall be for flocks, which shall lie down, and none shall make them afraid. The fortress also shall cease from Ephraim, and the kingdom from Damascus".
Verse 7 says, "At that day shall a man look to his Maker, and his eyes shall have respect to the Holy One of Israel." To me, this is the SIGN OF THE SON OF MAN of Mt. 24:30. It says, "then shall appear the SIGN OF THE SON OF MAN IN HEAVEN: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory."
Rev. 6:14-17 refers to this sign. It says, " the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from THE FACE OF HIM THAT SITTETH ON THE THRONE, AND FROM THE WRATH OF THE LAMB: FOR THE GREAT DAY OF HIS WRATH IS COME; and who shall be able to stand?" Certainly not Damascus.
In the Day of God's Wrath, what will happen to those that "spoil" Israel? Isa. 17:11-14 says, "the harvest shall be a heap IN THE DAY OF GRIEF AND OF DESPERATE SORROW. WOE TO THE MULTITUDE OF MANY PEOPLE, WHICH MAKE A NOISE LIKE THE NOISE OF THE SEAS; AND TO THE RUSHING OF NATIONS, THAT MAKE A RUSHING LIKE THE RUSHING OF MIGHTY WATERS! THE NATIONS SHALL RUSH LIKE THE RUSHING OF MANY WATERS: but God shall rebuke them, and they shall flee far off, and shall be chased as the chaff of the mountains before the wind, and like a rolling thing before the whirlwind. And behold at eveningtide trouble; and before the morning he is not. THIS IS THE PORTION OF THEM THAT SPOIL US, AND THE LOT OF THEM THAT ROB US."
Luke 21:25-28 sheds some light on this time. It says, "there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars (lit., constellations); and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; THE SEA AND THE WAVES ROARING; Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. And THEN SHALL THEY SEE THE SON OF MAN coming in a cloud with power and great glory. And when these things BEGIN to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption (i.e., the Rapture) draweth nigh." Eph. 4:30 says, "grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the DAY OF REDEMPTION."
If we go back to the "SIGNS" in the Sun, Moon and Constellations in v. 25, the Day of Redemption that is the Pre-Trib Rapture "draweth nigh." If we go back to when they see the SIGN OF THE SON OF MAN, the Pre-Wrath Rapture of the Tribulation saints is about to take place.
Have we already seen signs in the Sun, Moon and Constellations? Yes. Here is one in the Sun. The double anchor is the sign of hope in the Eastern Orthodox Church.
Here is a sign in the Moon. Taken from Jerusalem, it is not only the red-moon eclipse of 1-9-01, there is the face of a lion cub in it.
Here is a sign in the Constellation Vela, the sails of the ship Argo.
Here is a picture of Jupiter when hit by pieces of a comet between July 16-22, 1994.
"This true colour image of the giant planet Jupiter, taken by the NASA/ESA Hubble Space Telescope in 1994. It reveals the impact sites of fragments 'D' and 'G' from Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9. This was the first-ever observed collision between two objects in our Solar System.
"The small black spot to the left is the impact site of fragment D which struck Jupiter before fragment G. The thin ring measures about half the diameter of the Earth. The broad horseshoe-shaped feature appears to be resettling debris. This dark material is either from the comet itself or from the lower levels of Jupiter's atmosphere."
Luke 21:28 says that when these things BEGIN to come to pass, our redemption is nigh. The first day of the bombardment of Jupiter was Av 8, the Eve of Av 9, when the fires were set at both Solomon's and Herod's temples. According to Josephus (Wars VI. IV. 5) and Jer. 52:12,13, the inner sanctuaries were burned on Av 10. Agape
Will they be resurrected in "part", meaning:
some will be resurected and be raptured as the "bride", and some will be resurrected and go through the shortened trib?
This does not make sense, since there are only 2 resurrections?
Please explain why you think that the bride will only be a select group of believers, and that the "carnal" christians will remain and go later?
Still, a mulititude of Christians, (both carnal and repentant) died over the years, and they are now where ???
Do you believe that they are "absent from the body is to be present with the Lord"? or do you believe in "soul sleep"? Thanks
Heb 9:27 says, "it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment". I don't expect any of the dead to have to go through any of the Tribulation, except Moses.
> > Please explain why you think that the bride will only be a select group of believers, and that the "carnal" christians will remain and go later?
Luke 12:42-46 says, "the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season? Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. Of a truth I say unto you, that he will make him ruler over all that he hath. But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken; The lord of that servant (i.e., the foolish Laodicean virgin) will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder (asunder, i.e., cut him off), and will appoint him his portion (i.e., the shortened Tribulation) with the unbelievers" (apistos, infidels).
Mt. 24:51 adds, "And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites (pretenders): there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."
Mt. 22:10-14 says, "...as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage. So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding (i.e., the Marriage of the Lamb) was furnished with guests. And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment: And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless. Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness (i.e., outside the door of Heaven); there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. FOR MANY ARE CALLED, BUT FEW ARE CHOSEN."
At the time of the first Rapture, when the "ten kings...have received no kingdom as yet", Rev. 17:14 says, "he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and THEY THAT ARE WITH HIM ARE CALLED, AND CHOSEN, AND FAITHFUL."
In Rev 3:16, Jesus told the Laodiceans, "So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth." He told them to buy of him white raiment, and explained in v. 19 that they should repent (i.e., confess their sins committed after they accepted Christ, I John 1:9). It says, "As many as I LOVE, I REBUKE and CHASTEN: be zealous therefore, and repent."
Heb 12:5-8 says, "ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the CHASTENING of the Lord, nor faint when thou art REBUKED of him: For whom the Lord LOVETH he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons."
When the people "out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation" in Rev. 5:9 are caught up to Heaven in the Pre-Trib Rapture, not one is said to need to wash his robes in the blood of Christ to make them white. Obviously, then, these that are caught up in the Pre-Trib Rapture have already confessed their sins and are wearing white robes of righteousness.
So where does that leave the Laodiceans that have no white raiment? outside the Rapture "door".
When the "great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne" in Heaven in Rev. 7:1-15, the whole group is said to have come "OUT OF GREAT TRIBULATION, AND HAVE WASHED THEIR ROBES, AND MADE THEM WHITE IN THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB. THEREFORE ARE THEY BEFORE THE THRONE OF GOD."
John 13:6-10 says, "Then cometh he (Jesus) to Simon Peter: and Peter saith unto him, Lord, dost thou wash my feet? Jesus answered and said unto him, What I do thou knowest not now; but thou shalt know hereafter. Peter saith unto him, Thou shalt never wash my feet. JESUS ANSWERED HIM, IF I WASH THEE NOT, THOU HAST NO PART WITH ME. Simon Peter saith unto him, Lord, not my feet only, but also my hands and my head. Jesus saith to him, He that is washed needeth not save to wash his feet, but is clean every whit: and ye are clean".
Mt. 24:51; 25:1-12 says, "SHALL CUT HIM ASUNDER, AND APPOINT HIM HIS PORTION (the shortened Tribulation) WITH THE HYPOCRITES (pretenders): THERE SHALL BE WEEPING AND GNASHING OF TEETH. THEN (tote, at the same time) SHALL THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN BE LIKENED UNTO TEN VIRGINS, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom (Christ). And five of them were wise, and five were foolish. They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil (symbol of the Spirit of Christ) with them: But the wise took oil in their vessels (i.e., bodies) with their lamps. While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept. And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom (Christ) cometh; go ye out to meet him. Then ALL those virgins (i.e., believers) arose, and trimmed their lamps. And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone (lit., going) out. But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves. And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and THEY THAT WERE READY WENT IN WITH HIM TO THE MARRIAGE: AND THE DOOR (i.e., Heaven's door, Rev. 4:1) WAS SHUT. Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not."
Luke 13:23-27 says, "Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them, Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath SHUT TO THE DOOR (i.e., Heaven's door), and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I KNOW YOU NOT WHENCE (where) YE ARE...BUT HE SHALL SAY, I TELL YOU, I KNOW YOU NOT WHENCE YE ARE; DEPART FROM ME, ALL YE WORKERS OF INIQUITY."
Our lamps must be burning brightly the night of the Rapture. We want to be seen in the darkness.
> > Still, a mulititude of Christians, (both carnal and repentant) died over the years, and they are now where ???
In Heaven. When the rewards are given out, everything will come out right. The Philadelphians are not told to repent. Obviously, they already have. No words of condemnation are given them. They are the ones before whom Jesus has set the "open door" (Rev. 3:8). We need to be sure to let Jesus wash our feet.
> > Do you believe that they are "absent from the body is to be present with the Lord"?
Marilyn, You write:
Prov 30:4 asks, "Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and WHAT IS HIS SON'S NAME, if thou canst tell?"
His (God's) Son's name is Yisrael. Scripture clearly states Yisrael is God's firstborn son. It isn't the "son" who has ascended up into heaven or descended...that is a reference to YHVH. The SON is Yisrael.
Exodus 4:22-23 says "Then you shall say to Pharaoh, 'Thus says the L-RD: Israel is My first-born son. I have said to you, "Let My son go, that he may worship Me"
If you ignore this scripture, you are truly a fake and a self-deluded fraud.
Re: Who's Son is he?
Again, you complete failure to understand the culture that preceeded Jesus and the one in which he was born into makes your question silly.
You wrote: Mt. 22:42 asks, "What think ye of Christ? WHOSE SON IS HE?
My answer: One who kept Torah and followed YHVH was called a son of God. One who didn't was called as son of the Adversary. Many people were called the son of God, "Bar Elohim", because they kept God's Torah and observed His commandments. Common facts that evade your mind because you just don't have enough education to know these things. Rich
> > Again, you complete failure to understand the culture that preceeded Jesus and the one in which he was born into makes your question silly.
You should be very careful not to call Scripture "silly." Both of those questions are Scripture. Our eternal destiny depends on a correct answer to Mt. 22:42, "What think ye of Christ? WHOSE SON IS HE?" It is a life or death matter. Either he is the son of Joseph, or he is the Son of God.
Mat 22:42-45: "What think ye of Christ? whose son is he? They say unto him, The son of David. He saith unto them, How then doth David in spirit call him Lord, saying, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool? IF DAVID THEN CALL HIM LORD, HOW IS HE HIS SON? "
God's name is YHWH, Yahweh, or Yah for short. His Son's name is Yahshua, meaning Yah saves. Yahshua came in the name of his Father, Yahweh/Yah.
Isa 7:14: "Therefore the Lord himself shall give you A SIGN; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name IMMANUEL."
Mat 1:23: "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name EMMANUEL, WHICH BEING INTERPRETED IS, GOD WITH US."
Most of the references to the Son of God apply to Yahshua.
Dan 3:25: "He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God."
The wicked angels understand who Yahshua/Yeshua/Iesous/Jesus really is. Mat 8:29: "behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, JESUS, THOU SON OF GOD? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?"
John 1:49: "Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, THOU ART THE SON OF GOD; THOU ART THE KING OF ISRAEL."
Joh 3:18: "He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."
Joh 5:25: "Verily, verily (Amen, amen; so be it), I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live."
John 10:36: "Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?"
Mat 27:43: "He trusted in God; let him deliver him now, if he will have him: for HE SAID, I AM THE SON OF GOD."
Mat 27:54: "Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, TRULY THIS WAS THE SON OF GOD."
Mar 1:1, "The beginning of the gospel of JESUS CHRIST, THE SON OF GOD."
Mar 3:11: "And unclean spirits, when they saw him, fell down before him, and cried, saying, THOU ART THE SON OF GOD."
Mar 15:39: "when the centurion, which stood over against him, saw that he so cried out, and gave up the ghost, he said, TRULY THIS MAN WAS THE SON OF GOD."
Luk 1:35: "the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also THAT HOLY THING WHICH SHALL BE BORN OF THEE SHALL BE CALLED THE SON OF GOD."
Luke 8:28: "When he saw Jesus, he cried out, and fell down before him, and with a loud voice said, What have I to do with thee, JESUS, THOU SON OF GOD MOST HIGH? I beseech thee, torment me not."
Luke 22:70: "Then said they all, Art thou then the Son of God? And he said unto them, Ye say that I am." We would probably say, "You said it," meaning "Yes."
John 1:34: "I (John the Baptist) saw, and bare record that THIS IS THE SON OF GOD."
John 10:36: "Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I AM THE SON OF GOD?"
John 9:35: "Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found him, he said unto him, DOST THOU BELIEVE ON THE SON OF GOD?"
THERE ARE OTHERS THAT ARE CALLED SONS OF GOD IN SCRIPTURE:
1. ADAM, SON OF GOD BECAUSE GOD CREATED HIM Luke 3:38: "Adam, which was THE SON OF GOD."
2. ANGELS, INCLUDING SATAN, SONS OF GOD BECAUSE GOD CREATED THEM
Job 38:7: "When the morning stars sang together, and all THE SONS OF GOD shouted for joy?"
Job 2:1: "there was a day when THE SONS OF GOD came to present themselves before THE LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before THE LORD."
Gen 6:2: "THE SONS OF GOD saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose."
3. ISRAELITES, ADOPTED SONS
Ex. 4:22-23 says "say to Pharaoh, "Thus says the LORD: Israel is My first-born son. I have said to you, "Let MY SON go, that he may worship Me"
Rom 9:4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the ADOPTION, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;
4. CHURCH SAINTS, ADOPTED SONS
Rom 8:23: "And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, WAITING FOR THE ADOPTION, TO WIT, THE REDEMPTION OF OUR BODY."
Gal 4:5: "To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the ADOPTION OF SONS."
Eph 1:5: "Having predestinated us unto the ADOPTION of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will." John 1:12: "as many as received him, to them gave he power to become THE SONS OF GOD, even to them that believe on his name". Rom 8:15: "For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of ADOPTION, whereby we cry, Abba, Father."
Rom 8:14: "as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are THE SONS OF GOD."
Phi 2:15: "That ye may be blameless and harmless, THE SONS OF GOD, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights (i.e., wise virgins) in the world".
1Jo 3:1: "Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called THE SONS OF GOD: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not."
1Jo 3:2: "Beloved, now are we THE SONS OF GOD, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is."
Joe 2:32: "it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call."
Rom 10:9-13: "IF THOU SHALT CONFESS WITH THY MOUTH THE LORD JESUS, AND SHALT BELIEVE IN THINE HEART THAT GOD HATH RAISED HIM FROM THE DEAD, THOU SHALT BE SAVED. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE JEW AND THE GREEK: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."
John 3:11-13: "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness. If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? And NO MAN HATH ASCENDED UP TO HEAVEN, BUT HE THAT CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN, EVEN THE SON OF MAN WHICH IS IN HEAVEN."
Isa 9:6: "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." He is to be called "Wonderful." The connotation of the Hebrew word is "miraculous."
LuKe 1:35: "that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God."
John 3:13: "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven."
John 6:38: "For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me."
Mark 16:19: "So then, after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God."
Job 38:32 asks, "Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth (the Zodiac) in HIS SEASON?" This may be a hint that a sign of the Zodiac is Christ's season. He was born when Saturn was in Aries (the Ram), and he is the Lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the world. He is the Bridegroom in Gemini.
Isa 40:26 Lift up your eyes on high, and behold who hath created these things, that bringeth out their host by number: HE CALLETH THEM ALL BY NAMES by the greatness of his might, for that he is strong in power; not one faileth.
Ignatius, who died 107 AD, wrote of the star of Bethlehem. He said, "(It was) a star which so shone in heaven beyond all the stars, its newness caused excitement."
The Protoevangelium of James says that the wise men said to Herod, "We saw how an indescribably great star shone among these stars and dimmed them so that they no longer shone, and so we knew that a King was born for Israel."
Eusebius (fourth century) said, "The star was NEW and a stranger among the usual lights of heaven, a strange star besides the usual ones, a strange and unusual star, not one of the many known stars, but being new and fresh."
Maybe the Star of Bethlehem was a new star in Aries. If so, I still wonder how it could show the Magi which house the Christ child was in. That part seems to point to something supernatural. Maybe it was both.
Gemini stars and their meanings:
Castor, or Apollo, the ruler or judge
Pollux, or Hercules, who comes to labor and suffer, or the ruler, the judge, the toiling deliverer. In some old zodiacs, Pollux carries a branch, suggesting Christ
In Pollux' foot is Al Henah, the hurt or afflicted
Mebsuta, treading underfoot
Wasat, Arabic, established, as a foundation, or appointed to rule, Set, Sealed, or Put in place
Al Giauza, Arabic, the palm branch
Al Dira, Arabic, the seed or branch
Propus, Heb., the branch spreading
Al Henah, the Hurt, the wounded
Gemini speaks of something united, completed, uniting the church and her Saviour, the bride and bridegroom, a long betrothal completed by marriage. The Bride and Bridegroom are at rest in Gemini. It's the sign of the coming marriage and union of the Seed of the woman and his redeemed church, who is to rule all nations with a rod of iron
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