Pro and Con 1077

Posted 11-25-03

Incoming email, Re: Dr. Eby revisited

From: Jim Bramlett, 11-26-03

Most of us were surprised and disappointed when Dr. Richard Eby went to be with the Lord last year, because after his death experience and visit to heaven decades earlier, he reported that the Lord had told him that he would be alive at the rapture. Scoffers and mockers have used this to condemn not only Dr. Eby but also all those who reported his message. Some will even condemn me for bringing this up again, but they will have to answer for themselves to God.

Reverend Ron Patterson was a long-time, close personal friend of Dr. Eby and spent time with him before his death. He knew of Dr. Eby's sincerity, integrity, and heart for the gospel. I spoke with Ron this afternoon and we recounted the Eby situation.

As Ron previously reported, before he died, Dr. Eby realized that he had misinterpreted what the Lord had said to him, and regretted it. Ron pressed in and pinned him down on the exact words that he heard. The dialogue as described to Ron by Dr. Eby before his death went exactly like this:

The Lord, said, "Tell them, tell them, tell them -- I am coming soon!"

Eby asked, "How soon?"

The Lord's precise reply and exact words were, "Use yourself as an example."

Eby wrongly took that as meaning he would be here for the rapture. I consider that as careless, but also an innocent mistake, understandable in his enthusiasm, and unintended to deceive.

But Ron believes there is a deeper message here, and that the Lord has shown him that Dr. Eby is a type of Methusalah, who was Enoch's son and Noah's grandfather. We discussed that today, and that Methusalah lived almost up until the time of the flood. If it is true that Eby is a type of Methusalah, I asked myself and Ron, "I wonder how long before the flood did Methusalah die? How much time was there between Methusalah's death and the flood?" I said, "There may be a key here."

Neither of us knew the answer. But we knew that Dr. Eby died on December 26, 2002. After we hung up, I did some research and was shocked to discover a footnote in the NIV Study Bible comment on Genesis 5:27: "If the figures concerning life spans are literal (and we know they are), Methusalah died in the year of the flood."

Therefore, if Dr. Eby was indeed a type of Methusalah, and if he died within a year of our deliverance, then December 26, 2003 is the outside date.

Oddly, Hanakuh this year ends on December 27. Hanukah is the Feast of Dedication, or Feast of Lights. It is a celebration of deliverance, observing Israel's deliverance from Syria in 165 B.C. It may also be when "the Light of the World" was conceived and came into the world.

Jesus said that we are now "the light of the world." It is therefore possible that Hanukuh is the time when the Light of the world first came in, and also when the light of the world goes out.

In ancient Hebrew, one of the possible meanings of the name Methusalah is "his death shall bring." Jim

FREEMASONRY PROVEN TO WORSHIP LUCIFER, PART 3, STUDY OF SYMBOLS

http://www.cuttingedge.org/fmcorner.html

Using symbols, we continue to prove that Freemasonry is a worship of Lucifer, and is, indeed, just like all the pagan, Satanic MYSTERY RELIGIONS of the past 5,000 years.

MJA note: Rev. 17:5 says, "And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH."
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FREEMASONRY PROVEN TO WORSHIP SATAN , AS IT ADORES AND WORSHIPS THE SERPENT -- STUDY OF SYMBOLS, PART 4
http://www.cuttingedge.org/fmcorner.html

As we study Masonic symbols, we see that serpent worship is rampant within Masonry. This serpent worship absolutely proves Freemasonry is Satan worship. But, MASONS CONSIDER THE SERPENT TO BE THE SAVIOR OF THE WORLD!...

"The Serpent is universally esteemed a legitimate symbol of Freemasonry." [George Oliver, Signs and Symbols , New York, Macoy Publishing and Masonic Supply Company, 1906, p. 36]...

"THE SERPENT IS THE SYMBOL AND PROTOTYPE OF THE UNIVERSAL SAVIOR, WHO REDEEMS THE WORLDS BY GIVING CREATION THE KNOWLEDGE OF ITSELF AND THE REALIZATION OF GOOD AND EVIL." [Manly P. Hall, 33 Degree Mason, THE SECRET TEACHINGS OF ALL AGES , the Philosophical Research Society Press, p. lxxxviii.]...

My comments

Then "THE SECRET TEACHINGS OF ALL AGES" goes back to Gen. 3:4,5, where Satan lied to Eve. It says, "the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil."

I can see how the Masonic "SECRET TEACHINGS OF ALL AGES" will still be part of Revelation 17:5's "MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH." Since Manly P. Hall, 33rd Degree Mason, said, "THE SERPENT IS THE SYMBOL AND PROTOTYPE OF THE UNIVERSAL SAVIOR," it is easy to see the link between the serpent and the final Satan-possessed False Prophet, the final Antichrist.

The universal saviour fits him, for he will head up the United Religions. Mankind has to choose between Satan's false "UNIVERSAL SAVIOR, WHO REDEEMS THE WORLDS BY GIVING CREATION THE KNOWLEDGE OF ITSELF AND THE REALIZATION OF GOOD AND EVIL" and the true Saviour of the world, the Lord Jesus Christ, who redeemed the world by taking the sins of the world upon himself and dying to take away the sins of the world as an issue in Salvation. Now, it is "What think ye of Christ? whose son is he?" (Mt. 22:42).

Even the demons know that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. In Mt. 8:29, "they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?" The "time" is coming soon, but unbelieving mankind is to be given a chance to choose during the trial that is to come upon the whole world, the 70th week of Daniel 9:27. As the Rapture draws near, so does the trial we call the Tribulation.

This is the map from Jerry Golden's Report.
http://www.thegoldenreport.com/articles.asp?id=00180

Jerry explained that the lines he drew on the map are Ley Lines. "For those who are not aware of the term Ley-Lines," Jerry said, "it is lines in geographical places that Witches, Warlock, and Wizards walk claiming for the Devil." These lines link outside sites, and it is eye opening when we find out where they run.

Some Ley Lines are set in the floor at the ROTHCHILD PLANNED-FINANCED-BUILT ISRAELI SUPREME COURT. They even picked where they wanted to build it. One line points to the KNESSET. Notice that the long line that crosses it runs from the Science Museum to the Rockefeller Museum. I won't be surprised if Ley Lines are also built into this museum pointing to the Dome of the Rock. Near the bottom of the map, a perpendicular line connects the ROCKEFELLER MUSEUM to the DOME OF THE ROCK. This is evidence that someone did a lot of planning before some of these things were built.

Why are the Knesset and the Dome of the Rock connected with the Rockefeller Museum and the Rothchild-built Israeli Supreme Court?

Since upper degree Masons become IIluminati, and they are connected to the One World Government, I can see that these things will probably come together in the coming False Prophet, who will rule during the Great Tribulation. Will the Supreme Court and Knesset be part of his government? Will the Dome of the Rock be part of his religion? Will he be their expected one? Will he build the temple for the Jews? So far, the answers seem to be yes.

I think he will be an Israeli of the tribe of Dan, whose original symbol was a snake. Dan didn't want a snake on his banner, so he changed it to an eagle. The Masons use a double eagle. Why? Does it represent Dan and the serpent? Gen. 49:17 says, "Dan shall be a serpent by the way, an adder in the path, that biteth the horse heels, so that his rider shall fall backward."

It sounds like this verse will be fulfilled at the breaking of the 4th seal. That will be when the False Prophet rides on the world scene on a pale horse and takes over from the Tribulation Pope, the first Beast, the one that rides forth at the beginning of the Tribulation on a white horse. Will he be the rider that shall fall backward?

Rev. 6:8 says, "I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death (the False Prophet), and Hell (Satan) followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth." Wonder who they will kill? Christians.

Rev. 6:9-11 says, "when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled."

Isa. 9:15 says, "The ancient and honourable (the Tribulation Pope), he is the head (6th head of the great red dragon, Rev. 17:10); and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail." He is both the 7th head and the tail, because Satan is in him. Of course, he is against Christians. "And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him (the Tribulation Pope) over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations" (Rev. 13:7).

The 6-pointed star has already become the symbol of both the Masons and Israel. It means 666 to the Masons. There are 6 points, 6 triangles, and 6 sides to the inner hexagon. If the False Prophet is both an Israeli and a Mason, or Illuminati, the 6-pointed-star symbol will fit him perfectly. This star might even turn out to be used with the VeriPay implanted chip as the Mark of the Beast that will be necessary to buy or sell. Just as credit cards can be used now at ATM machines that display a star, maybe VeriPay, the new implant chip from Applied Digital Research, can be used wherever the 6-pointed star appears.

I can see that the False Prophet would be accepted by some Jewish people if he built the temple beside the Dome of the Rock. They are expecting the Messiah to build the temple. Rev. 11:1,2 says, "there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months."

Rev. 13:11,18 says, "I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb (i.e., Satan's 2 comings to power like Jesus' 2 comings), and he spake as a dragon (i.e., he is Satan-possessed)...Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."

Whom will ye choose? As for me, I choose the Lord Jesus Christ.

Incoming email

Thank you, Marilyn. Excuse me please, let me attract your attention
my material about Jehovah's Witnesses. God bless you.

Vladimir Rumyantsev,
St. Petersburg, Russia.
E-mail: bigroad@olvex.ru

My material is here:

"Who is this King of Glory"
http://juliagraves.tripod.com/godswarrior/id96.html
http://www.cmlb.net/museltof/Page.php?id=37

"Jehovahs Witnesses: Locusts From the Abyss?"
http://juliagraves.tripod.com/godswarrior/id94.html
http://www.megspace.com/religion/museltof/1jws.html

(MJA note: Because of the length, excerpts follow.)

"Jehovahs Witnesses: Locusts From the Abyss?"

«Hell is naked before Him, and destruction (Heb:'Abaddon') hath no covering» (Job 26:6); «Hell and destruction (Heb:'Abaddon') are before the Lord: how much more then the hearts of the children of men?» (Proverbs 15:11); «Hell and destruction (Heb:'Abaddon') are never full; so the eyes of man are never satisfied» (Proverbs 27:20);

«Destruction (Heb:'Abaddon') and death say, we have heard the fame thereof with our ears» (Job 28:22);

«And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue is Apollyon» (Revelation 9:11)....

When I asked my interlocutor to introduce herself and her religious affiliation, a predictable answer followed: I am with Jehovahs Witnesses World Organization....

I asked my questioner to open her New Testament, Chapter Nine, Revelation of St. John, or Apocalypse. I told her I was going to name chapter and verse, and ask her to read them out to me. And then I said I would ask her to comment on those lines. She concurred, and started reading to me in a steady voice...

And then I asked her who these verses referred to, and who did the authors of the verses she read mean to be Abaddon? The answer came immediately. The woman told me exactly what I expected to hear, i.e., Abaddon was the angel of the abyss, the destroyer, Satan, and his locusts were demons, evil spirits, creatures of hell....

Let me add here that I agreed with her completely there, but back then I had known something she could not have imagined. On May 1, 1998, Watchtower published an article entitled «Jehovahs Day Approaches» and there it said, simply and clearly: «Both in Joel 1:6 and Revelation 9:7 locusts symbolize Gods people» and from the article anyone could conclude that these Gods people were Jehovahs Witnesses....

I asked her, jokingly, whether she thought her spirit was strong enough, and inquired whether she had that particular issue of Watchtower handy. She said yes, and I suggested her to go back to the article and call me in an hour or so to continue our conversation.

Nobody called, not one or two hours thereafter, and not even in a days time. Why didnt she call? What particular things were there in this issue of Watchtower? Given the commentary of this particular Jehovahs Witness let me not dwell any longer on the meaning of locusts and let us turn now to the article entitled «Jehovahs Day Approaches», published in Watchtower of May 1, 1998:

«Imagine a great horde of locusts! «For a nation is come up upon my land, strong, and without number, whose teeth are the teeth of a lion, and he hath the cheek teeth (fangs) of a great lion ». (Joel 1:6-8) Is this applicable only to «people» - locusts, invading ancient Judea? No, this prophecy has a lot more meaning. Both in Joel 1:6 and Revelation 9:7 locusts symbolize the people of God. In the context of today the horde of locusts is nothing other than the army of anointed Jehovahs locusts, nowadays joined by about 5 to 600,000 other sheep of Jesus (John 10:16). Shouldnt we be joyous belonging to this enormous assembly of Jehovahs faithful? Gods army of locusts serves witness to the city known as the Christian world (Joel 2:9).

To complete the picture, let me quote from the questions conveniently located at the bottom of each page:«Who are present-day locusts? Why can we compare the activity of Gods people nowadays to locust invasion? Who in the modern sense of Joels prophecy are Jehovahs locusts? What is the scale of locust invasion in the 20th century and how long will it last? What do you say about taking part in the work of Jehovahs locust army?»

It follows that Jehovahs Witnesses published an article in 128 languages with a circulation of over 22 million copies, where they proclaim themselves locusts from hell, presided over by Abaddon the destroyer, the angel of the abyss. And then, in the person of my opponent, they commented on the article saying that Abaddon the destroyer was Satan, and locusts of the abyss were demons, evil spirits, creatures from hell. The innocent reader can study these premises and make his or her own conclusions....

It is in this context that the prophet discusses deliverance from the locusts in the book of the Prophet Joel: «But I will remove far off from you the northern army, and will drive him into a land barren and desolate, with his face toward the east sea, and his hinder part toward the utmost sea, and his stink shall come up, and his ill savour shall come up, because he hath done great things» (Joel 2:20).

Jeronem the Blessed said that in his time rotting locusts in the area of the Dead Sea and the Mediterranean caused such a stench and so spoiled the air that it caused plague, which afflicted people and cattle. It is absolutely improbable that the prophet was talking there of Gods people and could use such unflattering expressions talking of them.

Prophet Joel, speaking of Gods people says the opposite: «Then will the LORD be jealous for his land, and pity his people. Yea, the LORD will answer and say unto his people, Behold, I will send you corn, and wine, and oil, and ye shall be satisfied therewith: and I will no more make you a reproach among the heathen». (Joel 2:18,19).

And God promises His people that He will destroy the army of the locusts, which caused a lot of evil, and reward His people for the harm locusts will cause: «And I will restore to you the years that the locust hath eaten, the cankerworm, and the caterpiller, and the palmerworm, my great army which I sent among you» (Joel 2:25).

In none of these extracts from the Bible are locusts referred to as Gods people. Then there is a difference between Gods Army, the force God uses to serve justice, and Gods people, His true followers. Jehovahs Witnesses, however, when they say that in Joel 2:11 God calls locusts «His Army» combine the two notions in one....

Several days later I had another phone conversation with yet another Jehovahs Witness, who was more experienced and - let me admit - was quick enough to see that something was wrong with the article in Watchtower.

When I asked him who locusts stood for in the verses, and who the authors of the Holy Scriptures referred to under the name of Abaddon, he said calmly: «Locusts of the abyss are Gods people, and Abaddon the angel of the abyss (the destroyer) is Jesus Christ» ????? I can understand him and empathize: the goal justifies the means. He had no other way out but to admit he was wrong, but Jehovahs Witnesses cant do that. «The faithful and prudent servant», as the Brooklyn Corporation of Jehovahs Witnesses refers to itself, made a serious mistake, and local Witnesses now have to deal with the position they were put into by the article of their leaders....

The Scriptures say clearly that the real mission of the locusts is to harm people, and not to serve them! «And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name is Abaddon»

It must be noted that in this verse «angel» precedes «abyss,» meaning the home of evil spirits. Therefore, the king of the locusts is the messenger from the abyss, or Satan himself, who could well go with the title of king. His name, Abaddon, is, too, a reference to Satan, who is destruction and death. If the locusts of the abyss are headed by Satan, then they are indeed demons, evil spirits, creatures from hell. The Holy Scriptures eloquently say thus:

«Hell is naked before Him, and Abaddon hath no covering» (Job 26:6); «Hell and Abaddon are before the Lord: how much more then the hearts of the children of men?» (Proverbs 15:11);

«Hell and Abaddon are never full; so the eyes of man are never satisfied» (Proverbs 27:20);

«Abaddon and death say, we have heard the fame thereof with our ears» (Job 28:22).

Logically, the above leads us to a terrifying conclusion: Hell, Abaddon the destroyer, and locusts are Jehovahs Witnesses!!

When asked who the authors of the Bible verses meant under the name of Abaddon, the Jehovahs Witness was forced to reply that the angel of the abyss, the destroyer, was Jesus Christ (!!!). This is virtually blasphemy!! A scary evolution follows:

Jesus Christ, Son of God, Michael the Archangel, and the angel of the bottomless pit, Abaddon, the destroyer, all fight this war from the same side!!!

It is not easy to understand what thought processes were behind such statements. Incredibly, Jehovahs Witnesses believe themselves to be locusts, the army of Satan carrying death, as stated in their literature. After this conclusion the answer to the question who Jehovahs Witnesses serve, is simple. The logical conclusion to the many years of Jehovahs Witnesses work is the book entitled, «Revelation - Its Grand Climax At Hand», published by the Watchtower Society in 2002. In this publication once again Jehovahs Witnesses refer to themselves as locusts from the abyss headed by Abaddon, the angel of the abyss and the destroyer, and illustrate this statement with a bothersome picture of locusts emerging from the abyss. I dont need to analyze this work of the leaders of the Watchtower Society, I will just quote a few closing lines:

«Their king is the angel of the abyss. His Jewish name is Abaddon (Revelation 9:11). Jesus as the «angel of the abyss» and the «ruiner» inflicted indeed a deadly plague on the Christian world» (p. 148). I cant imagine anything more blasphemous to say of our Lord Jesus Christ! For they here present a picture of Him attacking .....Christians!

«Stench», «stink», «worms», «hell», «evil», «thief», «abyss», «harm», «Abaddon», «destroyer», «locusts», «plague», «sorrow», «torture», «death», all of these words in the opinion of Jehovahs Witnesses refer to nothing other but Gods chosen people. People everywhere - whether they are interested in theology or not - should take serious note on this theological slant of Jehovahs Witnesses. Standing in opposition to the entire Christian world, Jehovahs Witnesses pretending to be godly, openly declare their demonic affiliation. Before this day no other religious group referred to its spiritual mission as «deadly plague», «spiritual torture of Christian religious leaders», as Jehovahs Witnesses declare in their publication....

this article is yet another proof thereof.

"Is Lord Jesus Christ Archangel Michael?"

Jehovahs Witnesses maintain that «before Jesus came to Earth, He lived in Heaven, and was a spiritual being. Jesus is the first creature of God» (From «What Does God Require of Us?», 1996, p. 6). They go on to explain that Jesus Christ is no other than Archangel Michael who is described in the Old Testament.

In their argument first and foremost they quote the words of the Lord «for my Father is greater than I» (John 14:28). If, however, you read into these words carefully, they acquire the meaning that even more so underscores the Divine nature of our Lord Jesus Christ.

How could Archangel Michael, being one of Gods creatures, compare himself to God, when the glory of Gods greatness is nonnegotiable absolute truth, and He can not be compared to any of His creatures no matter how perfect they could be?

«To whom will ye liken Me, and make Me equal, and compare Me, that we may be like?» (Isaiah 46:5)

Even more astonishing is the fact that one of the angels demanded that he be worshipped equally with God:

«That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father» (John 5:23).

Such a declaration could come only from Him, Who is much more than just one of Gods creatures.

«The Bible explains that this «firstborn» Son participated with Jehovah in the making of everything else (Colossians 1:15-16), So when God said «Lets make a man like Us», he referred to His Son. Yes, He Who later came to Earth and was born by a woman participated in creating everything that is» (From «You Can Live Forever in Paradise on Earth», pp. 58-59).

What I ask is, if Archangel Michael had taken part «in the making of everything else», then how can we explain the following verses of the Holy Scriptures:

«Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens ALONE; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself» (Isaiah 44:24).

«But unto the Son he saith, And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands» (Hebrews 1:8,10).

And, similarly, «And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands» (Psalm 101:26).

Undoubtedly, in these verses «Son» denotes obviously a different Persona than Archangel Michael.

«Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God» (John 5:18);

«The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God» (John 10:33);

«The Jews answered him, We have a law, and by our law he ought to die, because he made himself the Son of God» (John 19:7).

Where in the Holy Scriptures does it say that Jews had been wrong and misunderstood the words of Lord Jesus Christ «I am a Son of God», when they declared to him that he «made Himself equal to God» (John 5:18), and «made Himself God (John 10:33)? And in what verse of the Bible did it say that Jesus Christ never meant this, and where it was that he said directly that He was not equal to God, and that he wasnt God like His Father?

Jehovahs witnesses say that Jesuss words «I am a Son of God» Jews mistakenly interpreted as «I am equal to God» (John 5:18), and «I am God like My Father» (John 10:33), because Lord Jesus Christ Himself, Jehovahs Witnesses say, never meant this; in their understanding, He is not equal to God, and He isnt God. It follows, then, that the Lord was punished for blasphemy unfairly, by mistake, because He had never said directly that He «was equal to God», or «I am God, like My Father». The meaning of the words «I am a Son of God», in relation to Jesus Christ, Jehovahs Witnesses say, is because «He was made before all other spiritual sons of God, and that only He was made directly by God» (From «You Can Live Forever in Paradise on Earth», p. 58). Should an ordinary man have said «I am a Son of God», Jews would have condemned him for blasphemy, too, and the essence of the blasphemy here would be that such a man would have lied: he was made not «by God directly», like Jesus Christ, but by God and Archangel Michael together. And therefore, they who mistakenly take the words «Son of God», as meaning actually being a son of God, someone who inherited His Fathers Divine nature, in the understanding of Jehovahs Witnesses, would simply take the Pharisees side (From «Should You Believe in the Trinity?», p. 24).

Its obvious that Jehovahs Witnesses simply lose the main meaning of the word «Son», meaning naturally similar to his «Father». The son of lion is a lion by nature; a son of man is a man by nature; a Son of God is God by nature. Their thinking is so much clouded with overinterpreted verses of the Bible and distorted word meanings, that even this simple logical conclusion cant fit into their thinking.

Following an unshakeable formula «One God One Person», Jehovahs Witnesses cant even theoretically imagine that when Lord Jesus Christ said «I am a Son of God», Jews understood him absolutely, unlike Jehovahs Witnesses. It was this meaning that Lord Jesus Christ put into these words, being a true Son of God in the very direct sense of the words:

«And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life» (1 John 5:20).

So it wasnt that Jews were «mistaken»; it is Jehovahs Witnesses who have masterfully distorted the meaning of these verses taking upon themselves a very horrifying mission to prove to the entire world that God had a Son who had not inherited His Fathers Divine nature.

But we must bear in mind that the word «god» spelled with a small letter, can also be found in the Holy Scriptures. In these cases the word «god» stands for a title. For instance, here is a quote from the Scriptures, where the word «god» is meant as a title:

«In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them» (2 Corinthians 4:4).

In this case the words «god of this world», refer to Satan. He has the title of the god of this world.

In its turn the word «Lord» is a name, which is obvious from one of the verses of the Holy Scripture:

«but by my name «Lord» was I not known to them» (Exodus 6:3);

«I am the LORD: that is my name» (Isaiah 42:8);

«and they shall know that my name is The LORD» (Jeremiah 16:21).

Jehovahs Witnesses in their publications introduce entirely new notions, saying that «God» and «Lord» are titles.

«Words «God», «Lord», and «Creator», just like «president», «czar», or «general», are titles that can be applied to various persons. (From «Jehovahs Witnesses in the Twentieth Century», p. 4);

«God is only a title, like «President», «Czar», or «Judge» are titles» (From «You Can Live Forever in Paradise on Earth», p. 41)....

My reply

Thanks for a fresh approach.

How the Jehovah's Witnesses can read the Bible, even their New World Translation, and believe as they do is beyond my comprehension. There are no scriptures that say that Jesus is Michael the archangel. Heb. 1:6 (NWT) says, "But when he again brings his First-born into the inhabited earth, he says: "And let ALL God's angels worship him." ALL God's angels includes Michael. Michael is to worship Jesus Christ. They are two separate beings. Michael is not to worship himself. He is to worship Christ.

In Mt. 1:21-23, the NWT says, "She will give birth to a son, and you must call his name Jesus; for he will save his people from their sins." All this actually came about for that to be fulfilled which was spoken by Jehovah through his prophet, saying: "Look! The virgin will become pregnant and will give birth to a son, and they will call his name Immanuel," which means, when translated, "With Us is God."

In Psa. 2:7 (NWT), the Pre-incarnate Christ, the LORD of hosts, says, "Let me refer to the decree of Jehovah; He has said to me: "You are my son; I, today, I have become your father."

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