Pro and Con 1089

Posted 1-19-04

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Rover Senses Bound Water

This graph, consisting of data acquired on Mars from the Mars Exploration Rover Spirit's mini-thermal emission spectrometer, shows the light, or spectral, signature of an as-of-yet unidentified mineral that contains bound water in its crystal structure. Minerals such as gypsum and zeolites are possible candidates....

Rover Senses Carbonates

This graph, consisting of data from the Mars Exploration Rover Spirit's mini-thermal emission spectrometer, shows the light, or spectral, signatures of carbonates - organic molecules common to Earth that form only in water. The detection of trace amounts of carbonates on Mars may be due to an interaction between the water vapor in the atmosphere and minerals on the surface....

Rover Senses Carbon Dioxide

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***By David Bay, Director of Old Paths Ministries, a ministry of Grace Baptist Church. Be sure to see the last paragraph I quote below. My mouth dropped open. I have never heard of this before.

...As the United States continues to pressure Israel to divide her land to give large portions of it to the Palestinians, we should beware of God's judgment against all nations who divide His Holy Land. End Times prophecy against Palestinians states that THEY SHALL PROCLAIM A NATION, BUT SHALL NOT RECEIVE ONE!...

***I don't know where it says this. Maybe we have to put 2 and 2 together. I couldn't find it by searching with e-sword.

***Joel 3:2 (KJV) says, "Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and PARTED MY LAND."

God's Prophetic End Times Judgment:

"FOR BEHOLD, in those days and at that time when I shall reverse the captivity and restore the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem, I will gather all nations and will bring them down into the Valley of Jehoshaphat, and there will I deal with and execute judgment upon them for their treatment of My people and of My heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations and BECAUSE THEY HAVE DIVIDED MY LAND." [Joel 3:1-2; Parallel Bible, KJV/Amplified Bible Commentary]

This verse is one of the most exciting in the entire Bible, because the first part of it has already been fulfilled, in our lifetime! God "reversed the captivity and restored the fortunes" of Judah and Jerusalem -- Israel -- on May 14, 1948! You can write this date in the margin of your Bible on Joel 3:1 and mark it "Fulfilled". Very few other prophecies have been so exactly fulfilled in modern history. Truly, God is consistently working in the life of Israel in this modern age!

Now, let us take a moment to talk about the Valley of Jehoshaphat.

Some of our readers have emailed us, asking about our belief about the Valley Jehoshaphat and the Day of the Lord. Most Bible scholars teach that the Valley of Jehoshaphat is the battle where Armageddon will be located, and they are entirely correct. A part of this standard teaching is that this is the VALLEY OF KIDRON, AND TO THIS WE TAKE EXCEPTION. Listen to one Bible scholar explain about the Valley of Jehoshaphat:

"A valley where all nations shall be gathered by Jehovah for judgment [Joel 3:2-12]. At least as early as the time of Eusebius, in the 4th Century A.D., the Valley of Jehoshaphat was identified with the valley of Kidron, so that now Jews, Roman Catholics, and Mohammedans fix the scene of the last judgment here. This identification is only a conjecture, based on the cited passages and Zechariah 14. So far as the evidence goes, NO VALLEY ACTUALLY BORE THIS NAME." [Illustrated Davis Dictionary of the Bible, P. 378]

The Easton Illustrated Bible Dictionary concurs, but goes a bit further:

"This is the name given in modern times to the valley between Jerusalem and the Mount of Olives, and the Kidron flows through it. Here Jehoshaphat overthrew the confederated enemies of Israel (Ps 83:6-8); and in this valley also God was to overthrow the Tyrians, Zidonians, etc. (Joel 3:4, 19), with an utter overthrow. This has been fulfilled; but Joel speaks of the final conflict, when God would destroy all Jerusalem's enemies, of whom Tyre and Zidon, etc., were types. The 'valley of Jehoshaphat' may therefore be simply regarded as a general term for the theatre of God's final judgments on the enemies of Israel."

Let us repeat the key understanding for you: "The 'valley of Jehoshaphat' may therefore be simply regarded as a general term for the theatre of God's final judgments on the enemies of Israel."

Another Bible scholar agrees: "As 'Jehoshaphat' means 'the judgment of Jehovah,' the valley of Jehoshaphat may be used as a general term for the theater of God's final judgments on Israel's foes." —Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary

Therefore, the Valley of Jehoshaphat is a generic term that describes the theater of God's final judgments on Israel's foes; the modern Middle East is chock full of bitter enemies of Israel, almost 300,000,000 Muslims who desperately want Israel destroyed, nations whose ancestors hated the Jews exceedingly. In fact, this entire area has been mistreating the Jews for several thousand years.

WE BELIEVE THE "VALLEY OF JEHOSHAPHAT" MAY VERY WELL BE THE ENTIRE MIDDLE EAST. Joel 3 describes multitudes upon multitudes of nations being brought into the Valley of Jehoshaphat for judgment at the End of the Age. Today, almost 40 nations are pouring troops into Iraq, and we have already heard the US breathe fire and brimstone threats against Syria, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and even Pakistan, saying we are coming after you once we take Iraq out. Today (April 29, 2003), even as we are planning to declare an end to combat operations in Iraq, we are still shipping M1A Abrams Tanks from Germany to Iraq [, April 29, 2003]. We are going to be in the Middle East -- the Valley of Jehoshaphat -- for a long, long time.

***I think the valley of Jehoshaphat (Jehovah judges) is more localized. It is where the Lord will "SIT to judge all the heathen round about." Iraq is part of the heathen round about Israel. Others are Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Egypt and the Palestinians. Jerusalem fits for the heathen are round about it. Zech. 14:2 says, "I will gather ALL NATIONS against JERUSALEM to battle." To me, Jerusalem would have heathen round about it.

***Joel 3:9-21 says, "Proclaim ye this among the Gentiles; Prepare war, wake up the mighty men, let all the men of war draw near; let them come up: Beat your plowshares into swords, and your pruninghooks into spears: let the weak say, I am strong. Assemble yourselves, and come, ALL YE HEATHEN, AND GATHER YOURSELVES TOGETHER ROUND ABOUT: thither cause thy mighty ones to come down, O LORD. Let the heathen be wakened, and come up to THE VALLEY OF JEHOSHAPHAT (meaning Jehovah judges): FOR THERE WILL I SIT TO JUDGE ALL THE HEATHEN ROUND ABOUT. Put ye in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe (Rev. 14:18-20): come, get you down; for the press is full, the fats overflow; for their wickedness is great. Multitudes, multitudes in the VALLEY OF DECISION: for the day of the LORD (1st day of Christ's millennial reign) is near in the valley of decision. The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining. The LORD also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from JERUSALEM; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the LORD will be the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel. So shall ye know that I am the LORD your God dwelling in Zion, my holy mountain: then shall Jerusalem be holy, and there shall no strangers pass through her any more. And it shall come to pass in that day, that the mountains shall drop down new wine, and the hills shall flow with milk, and all the rivers of Judah shall flow with waters, and a fountain shall come forth of the house of the LORD, and shall water the valley of Shittim (i.e., acacia trees). Egypt shall be a desolation, and Edom shall be a desolate wilderness, for the violence against the children of Judah, because they have shed innocent blood in their land. But Judah shall dwell for ever, and Jerusalem from generation to generation. For I will cleanse their blood that I have not cleansed: for the LORD dwelleth in Zion."


Now, let us discuss the time frame. We agree that this Valley of Jehoshaphat is the area in which the final slaughter of Armageddon takes place and that is certainly at the very End of the Age, when Jesus comes back to earth as a conquering King. However, the question we need to examine is whether the judgments in the Valley of Jehoshaphat is limited to Armageddon, or whether it is a period of time in which judgments will be regularly occurring.

***I think the Gog and Magog war is on the Day of God's Wrath, the first day of Christ's millennial reign. That is 7 months before the Second Advent (Eze. 39:12,13). Armageddon is Satan's forces against Christ's army. Therefore, I think it follows the Second Advent. Armageddon will probably break out when dominion is taken away from Satan at the Judgment of the Nations.

Let us review the pertinent verse in Joel 3:

"Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision." [Joel 3:14]

Day of the Lord -- this is the key term to understanding our discussion, so let us see how various scholars define it.

"The idea is a common Old Testament one. It denotes the consummation of the kingdom of God and the absolute cessation of all attacks upon it (Isa 2:12; Isa 13:6, 9; Isa 34:8; Ezek 13:5; Ezek 30:3; Joel 1:15; Joel 2:11; Am 5:18; Zeph 1:14; Zec 14:1) It is a "day of visitation" (Isa 10:3), a day "of the wrath of Yahweh" (Ezek 7:19), a "great day of Yahweh" (Zeph 1:14). The entire conception in the Old Testament is dark and foreboding."—International Standard Bible Encyclopedia

Note that, while the term, "day" is used, the Day of the Lord "denotes the consummation of the kingdom of God and the absolute cessation of all attacks upon it".

Let us examine one prophetic passage, Zephaniah 1:14: "The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly..." [Zeph 1:14]

The word, "day" is Strong's Number 3117, which has a variety of meanings, including: continually, a division of time, time, period (general). In Joel 13:6 and 13:9, in these "Day of the Lord" prophecies, the word, "Day" is Strong's 3117. Therefore, a "Day" of the Lord may be a period of time, over which God stands in judgment with nation upon nation upon nation, each following in its "turn".

Is there any verse that gives this connotation? Yes!

" For the day of the Lord is near upon all the nations ["day" is Strong's 3117] ... so shall all the nations drink continually, in turn, of My wrath " - Obadiah 15, 16 - Parallel Bible, KJV/Parallel Bible Commentary]

Did you catch that phrase? God shall bring nations into judgment "continually, in turn", drinking God's wrath to its fullest.

***I go with the KJV. It doesn't say "in turn," just "continually."
Obadiah 1:16 says, "as ye have drunk upon my holy mountain (the temple mount), so shall all the heathen drink CONTINUALLY, yea, they shall drink, and they shall swallow down, and they shall be as though they had not been."

Most Bible scholars will agree that the Day of the Lord refers to the general period of time covering the 7-year Tribulation Period; however, we wonder if the Day of the Lord might also include the devastating war that will produce Antichrist, the "final birth sorrows war" of Matthew 24. Certainly, this war will begin God's judgments upon the earth, judgments so severe they will set the stage for Antichrist to finally appear....

***Elijah must come before the Day of the Lord begins. Malachi 4:5 says, "Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet BEFORE the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD." Therefore, the Day of the Lord comes on the Day of God's Wrath, not the beginning of the Tribulation.

***That being said, please read the entire article, for David Bay says something I have never heard of before.

As we reported in NEWS1429, Arafat is not even Palestinian! He is Egyptian, and was recruited by the Russian KGB to become the head of the fledgeling new terrorist organization, the P.L.O. -- Palestine Liberation Organization. Arafat knows his role is to lead the Palestinian people to the point where Israel can annihilate them just as Obadiah 15-18 and Isaiah 34 foretell....


God is very specific as to why He is going to deliver judgment upon "all nations" in the Valley of Jehoshaphat, the Middle East. We need to study those reasons carefully, because the judgments God continually pours upon these nations all the way through the end of the Tribulation Period are so severe that we need to understand them thoroughly.

Before we begin, let us deal quickly with verses 3-8. These verses have already been fulfilled, but may await a future final fulfillment that would settle accounts that have built up since the first fulfillment. Listen to a Bible scholar describe how these verses have already been fulfilled.

"More immediate judgment was announced on the Phoenicians and Philistines who were notorious slave traders. Verse 8 was fulfilled in 345 B.C., when Artaxerxes III sold the Sidonians into slavery, and in 332 B.C., when Alexander the Great did the same to the people of Tyre and Gaza," [Ryrie Study Bible, p. 1310, footnote]

The scholars of Jamieson-Fausett-Brown Commentary agree with the interpretation that this verse has already been fulfilled; however, they go one step further in stating that a final fulfillment awaits these four verses.

"As Jehoshaphat overthrew the confederate foes of Judah, namely, Ammon, Moab, &c. (Ps 83:6-8), in this valley, so God was to overthrow the Tyrians, Zidonians, Philistines, Edom, and Egypt, with a similar utter overthrow (Joel 3:4, 19). This has been long ago fulfilled; but the ultimate event shadowed forth herein is still future, when God shall specially interpose to destroy Jerusalem's last foes, of whom Tyre, Zidon, Edom, Egypt, and Philistia are the types." —Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary

Now, let us go back to Joel 3:2, for that is the basis of this article. Let us again review the key reason(s) God is going to bring judgment:

"... there will I deal with and execute judgment upon them for their treatment of My people and of My heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations and because THEY HAVE DIVIDED MY LAND." [Joel 3:2]

The people who have scattered Jews "among the nations" start with the Romans in 70 A.D. and 135 A.D. and extend to so many different countries over the next 1,900 years, it would take pages to list them all. But, God has said that He will bring the modern-day descendants of these countries into the Valley of Jehoshaphat at the End of the Age in order to avenge the various scattering of the Jews throughout these 1,900 years.

But, of great interest to this subject is the last reason God gives for pouring out judgment: "THEY HAVE DIVIDED MY LAND."

Did you know that, today, both the United States and Great Britain are putting the most powerful pressure possible upon Israel to get her to "divide the land of Israel"? Are you further aware that we have been putting this incredible pressure upon Israel for 20 years?

Let us review pertinent modern history.

In June, 1990, I read a commentary in the Jewish Press in which the author stated that a decision had just been made at the highest levels of the Israeli government, both political and military. This decision stated that, during the next Arab-Israeli war, the IDF was going to annihilate all populations round about that were threatening Israel.

As I read this article, the hair on the back of my neck began to curl, for I could remember an End Times prophecy which stated that Israel would carry out exactly this type of action: annihilating her implacable foes. Listen:

"In that day will I make the chiefs of Judah like a big, blazing pot among [sticks of] wood and like a flaming torch among sheaves [of grain], and they shall devour all the peoples round about, on the right hand and on the left ..." [Zechariah 12:6]

I could just see a fire coming out of Israel, burning the peoples round about like sheaves of grain, "on the right hand and on the left". While I have absolutely no desire to see anyone die, I am pleased that world events are occurring exactly like Bible prophecy has stated it will, for this gives God great glory and honor forever, Amen!

Thus, in June, 1990, I began to watch and listen carefully for any indication that Israel was moving toward this prophesied scenario. Imagine my surprise that the first major event to occur was a plan for "peace" called the Oslo Accords, first introduced in mid-1992. Since the Bible speaks only of war after Israel returns to her land, I was very skeptical that this plan would actually produce peace; further, I know another prophecy which states that the forces of Antichrist will destroy many people through the false promises of peace.

"... through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many." [Dan 8:25]

The men who serve Antichrist will destroy many people through a false promise of peace. I was very well aware that Israel today is ruled by the Illuminati [NEWS1593], and I was very well aware that Arafat was under the control of the Russian KGB [NEWS1429], an organization as Illuminist as the American CIA. These were the two parties to this Oslo Accord, a document that promised peace through the negotiated establishment of a Palestinian State within the borders of tiny Israel.

The Illuminist connection was permanently set through American involvement, especially President Clinton. I will never forget the ceremony on September 13, 1993, at the White House. Illuminist President Clinton was acting like he had just conquered the world, and he brokered the infamous handshake between Yitzhak Rabin and Yassir Arafat, and handshake that was supposed to bring peace to this beleaguered region of the world....


Israel -- Military and civilian leadership realize that a Jewish state can never, ever live with a such a hate-filled, hate-driven Muslim population such as the Palestinians. Their children are taught by their parents to hate the Jew and want him dead; their public schools teach a more sophisticated hatred as early as the First Grade. Israeli leaders -- even the ones called Peace Now, or Peaceniks -- are under no illusion.

The only question is, how does Israel free itself from such an implacable foe? The answer is to TRAP HIM THROUGH AN ENTICEMENT TO PEACE, and that plan is called Oslo.

Palestinians -- As we reported in NEWS1429, Arafat is not even Palestinian! He is Egyptian, and was recruited by the Russian KGB to become the head of the fledgeling new terrorist organization, the P.L.O. -- Palestine Liberation Organization. ARAFAT KNOWS HIS ROLE IS TO LEAD THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE TO THE POINT WHERE ISRAEL CAN ANNIHILATE THEM JUST AS OBADIAH 15-18 AND ISAIAH 34 FORETELL....

Illuminating Arafat

By R.A. Coombes

...Arafat is also reportedly a member of the Illuminati since he was a young man. He apparently is not at the highest levels within that organization but at a high enough level and in a sensitive enough position for the implementation of Global control that it would not be in the best interests of the Illuminati game plan for world conquest to be rid of Arafat just yet.

Now if Arafat is really an Illuminist member at say the middle level of management within that group then that really explains why Israel is not allowed to assassinate him. It also explains why the US is not cutting off all contact with him. It is why Arafat was not disposed of decades ago. Arafat is a mid-level manager in a key post for a key arena of the Illuminati's ultimate plans for world conquest in the name of 6-6-6. Therefore, don't expect anything to happen to Arafat unless his overseers decide it is useful for him to be gone from the scene.

From what we've read and heard regarding the Illuminist plans for worldwide takeover and global conquest of humanity the Middle East is the tinderbox for the next world war that will usher in the arrival of the Antichrist. It would appear that perhaps Arafat will be the "lit match" that lights the fuse leading to the tinderbox that sets off a firestorm of war and bloodshed, not only as a regional war in the Middle East but also culminating in a Third World War.

Arafat as leader of the Palestinians is apparently playing the role of Islamic martyr yet to come. Someone who at the correct time will trigger the spark against Israel that explodes Israeli patience into a response that in turn launches the Middle East into a regional war which in turn triggers global bloodshed that will eventually be perceived as another World War. Another World War is perceived as necessary to purge humanity once and for all of the attitude that nationalism is good. Instead, the Illuminists want humanity to think only of a world government ... a government led only by the Illuminists. It would of course be the ultimate 1-World government and would be placed into the hands of the Antichrist and the Satanic forces.

Total control of the Earth by Satanic forces is thought to be the way to defeat God, the Creator-Ruler of the Universe. Such control would mean God is not truthful nor omniscient nor omnipotent and thus defeatable. If His Word can be thwarted, then Satanic forces have a chance to not only defeat God but destroy God as well. We find that logic to be twisted, distorted and completely illogical but nonetheless that seems to be the thinking and strategy of Satan and his forces. Thus, what we are seeing today is but the final moves in the beginning of the final phase of human history in time.

So, watch Arafat carefully. Don't expect Yasser to be removed or killed unless his superiors have decided that he is expendable or can become a martyric icon that can be used to spark the powderkeg of a chain of events that is designed to begin the Illuminati take-over of the world. If Arafat dies a martyr, then you can figure that something BIG in Illuminati plans is brewing for imminent start of regional war leading to the final countdown to Satanic control of the planet. We think such a move is yet a long ways off and not imminent in a matter of hours, days, weeks or even a few months. Of course, we could be wrong. Bottom line? Keep an eye peeled on Arafat. He's a key player in the Illuminati plans....

Fearing The New Bushtapo

by John Hawkins

...Yassir Arafat and the Black Pope

This brings us to that mysterious enigma known as Yassir Arafat. What is his real purpose, really? He was trained to be a terrorist in the early 1950s during the Cold War Hoax in the Jesuits' Moscow, the Order having taken Russia during the Bolshevik Revolution. He has been the greatest agitator of Zionist Israel since the founding of the Jewish State in 1948, OR HAS HE BEEN ISRAEL'S GREATEST AID IN MAINTAINING ITS EXISTENCE?

Is it not true that the Mossad could have eliminated Arafat many times during the last fifty years? Why not? Guaranteed, if Arafat was a genuine enemy of the Black Pope's Zionist State, Yassir would have been eliminated years ago. Why not? Why did Peres sign the Oslo Accord in 1993 effectively bringing Arafat out of Tunisia who then called for Intifada? Why do both Peres and Arafat make regular trips to New York's Council on Foreign Relations - secretly controlled by the Knights of Malta (William F. Buckley, Jr., Alexander Haig, Frank C. Carlucci, George Tenet, etc.), they being the soldiers for New York's Edward Cardinal Egan, the most powerful Archbishop in North America? Why have both Peres and Arafat kissed the ring of the Pope? Because the Masonic Jewish Zionists and the Masonic Islamic Dynasties both serve the Jesuit General who in turn controls of the Pope.

Therefore two of Arafat's purposes are these:

1. To bring forth Arab leaders who are true enemies of the Pope's Zionist Israel in order to be identified and executed by the Mossad around the world. The principle of smiting the shepherd and scattering the sheep is fully employed.

2. To be used to create sympathy for "the rights of the Palestinians" resulting in anti Jewish fury in all nations harboring a large Jewish population. The purpose for this calculated agitation is to drive back the Jewish People to Israel for their attempted mass murder in the future by the final Pope who will rule the world from the Third Temple yet to be rebuilt. Arafat is the key presently being used by the Jesuit General's International Press to create massive anti Jewish fury within the United States and in Europe.

In conclusion, Yassir Arafat has been mightily used by the Black Pope in identifying Israel's true enemies enabling his Order's Mossad to eliminate them. And since the House of Saud, the Bin Ladens and the Husseins have not been eliminated those dynasties are not truly the enemies of the Pope's Zionists running Israel via the Labor Party today. Therefore, Arafat will never be eliminated as he is the GREATEST TRAITOR TO THE EVIL ISLAMIC ARAB CAUSE, HAVING BEEN OUTLINED IN THE PALESTINIAN COVENANT OF 1968, IN THE HISTORY OF ISLAM....

..."ANTI-CHRIST..we love you-"so says America!

...Under the orders of Scientologist-Occultist Barbara Marx Hubbard the U.S. Army formed the secret Psy-Ops Pagan remote -viewer battalion called "First Earth". This was under the management of Lt.Col.Jim Channon and Lt.Col.Mike Aquino who were also founders of the California Anton Lavey spin-off Satanic Church of Set. They moved their operations to Camp Presidio, California -historically known as an Intelligence Psy-war training center.

CNN then started using hundreds of their military students at their headquarters. This all took place at the same time Mikhail Gorbachev was at Camp Presidio-for years- laying down the rules for Green Peace, the New World Religion, the One World Order and closing our 100 of our military bases.

(The CIA and KGB have been working together in the Black Witch Craft-High-Tech-Occultism before the Berlin Wall ever came down.)

On Gorby's website ...coins with he and the Pope on them together. Like the Anti-Christ , Gorby has the wound on the head. Like the False Prophet the Pope's fish- hat looks like two horns. On another page like in the Bible's book of Daniel the Russians refer to him-Gorby- as the man (Beast)with "iron teeth." On another page he and his now dead wife and the leader of China are seen in a picture together. He is blatanly called the 'President -or leader -of the World'. ( The Power-Elite Occult world-wide know this but you do not!)

"Catholic Fatima Shrine Has Developed Into Centre Where All Religions of World Can Pay Homage To Their Various Gods!"

The Portugal News 11/1/03

"Delegates attending the Vatican and United Nations (UN) inspired annual interfaith congress, "The Future of God," held during October in Fatima, heard how the Shrine is to be developed into a centre where all the religions of the world will gather to pay homage to their various gods. Addressing Hindu, Muslim, Jewish, Orthodox, Buddhist and African Pagan representatives, the Shrine’s rector, Roman Catholic Monsignor Luciano Guerra, stated: 'The future of Fatima, or the adoration of God and His mother at this holy Shrine, must pass through the creation of a shrine where different religions can mingle....'...

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