Pro and Con 1094

Posted 2-8-04

Another picture of the Wailing Wall that clearly shows the masculine face near the right edge

"My beloved is like a roe or a young hart: behold, he standeth behind our wall, he looketh forth at the windows, shewing himself through the lattice." (Song of Solomon 2:9)

Peres

Peres newly elected leader of Israel`s opposition
Labor promises Sharon safety net for Gaza plan
http://www.debka.com/

Incoming email, Re: Hamas preparing to seize West Bank, Gaza

GEOSTRATEGY-DIRECT INTELLIGENCE BRIEF, 1-30-04
Report says group using Egyptian support to wrest control from PA
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36846

JERUSALEM – Hamas has established a military force in a drive to take over the West Bank and Gaza Strip from the Palestinian Authority, reports Geostrategy-Direct, the global intelligence news service.

Stardust Surprise

When NASA's Stardust spacecraft flew by Comet Wild 2, the probe saw something that surprised astronomers.
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2004/16jan_stardust.htm

...Then came the surprise. It happened when Stardust passed by the core of the comet, only 236 km distant, and photographed it using a navigation camera. The images were intended primarily to keep the spacecraft on course. They also revealed a worldlet of startling beauty....

Incoming email, Re: This generation will not pass

What is a Generation? Webster says its 30 years. In the Hebrew it refers to age. I was watching Jack VanImpe last night. But I only turned the TV on in mid sentence. Anyway He believes the Second coming will be around 2018 he also believes a generation is 51.2 years. What are your thoughts?

Jack also said he feels the Rapture would then be 2012. Bummer! I know I should be patient.

My reply

> > What is a Generation?

Mt. 1:17 says, "So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations."

Those 2030 years divided by 42 generations gives us 48.33 years for one generation (1967 + 48 = 2015). I consider that the outside limit for the Day of God's Wrath to end the shortened Tribulation.

The 40 years from 30 AD and 70 AD are considered one generation in Mt. 23:36. Jesus said, "Verily I say unto you (Pharisees), All these things shall come upon this generation." They did, in 70 AD.

Therefore, the Day of God's Wrath should come between Tishri 1 in 2007 and Tishri 1 in 2015. Since there are 7 months between the Day of God's Wrath on Tishri 1 (Eze. 38:18-20) and the Second Advent on the following Nisan 1 (Eze. 39:12,13 Hosea 6:3), I think the ending year of the shortened Tribulation has to be a Jewish Leap Year.

There are four leap years to choose from: 5768 (2007/2008), 5771 (2010/1011), 5774 (2013/2014) and 5776 (2015/2016).

The 2300 days of Dan. 8:13,14 seem to be the duration of the shortened Tribulation. If 5768 was the end year, and the duration of the Tribulation was 2300 days, the Tribulation would have begun on Pentecost, 5-28-2001, by inclusive reckoning. It didn't, so I went to the next leap year, 5771.
I'm now looking for 5771 (2010/2011) to be the year for the Day of God's Wrath (Tishri 1, Thu., 9-9-2010) and the Second Advent (Nisan 1, Tue., 4-5-2011).

If May 23,2004, is the beginning of the 2300-day shortened Tribulation, Mid-Trib would be 1260 days later (Rev. 11:3), on Sunday, Nov. 4, 2007 (23 Cheshvan, 5768).

I subtracted 2300 days from Sept. 9, 2010, and came to May 23, 2004, for the beginning of the Tribulation. That's Sivan 3, three days before Pentecost (Sivan 6). It looks like that would knock out a Pentecost Rapture. That makes Ascension Day, Sunday, May 16, 2004, look like a good day for the Rapture. Anything before that seems too early for the grapes to be blooming.

That agrees with Song of Solomon 2:10-14. It says, "My beloved (Christ) spake, and said unto me, RISE UP (quwm, rouse, arise, rise up, i.e., resurrect and rise up), my love (i.e., the Bride of Christ), my fair one, and COME AWAY (yalak, DEPART, VANISH, i.e., at the Pre-Trib Rapture). For, lo, the winter is past, the rain (the latter rain of Nisan) is over and gone; The flowers appear on the earth (it's spring); the time of the singing of birds is come (lit., the 'new song,' i.e., of Rev. 5:9), and the voice of the turtle (lit., turtledove, they come in April) is heard in our land; The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell. ARISE (quwm, rouse, rise up, arise, i.e., resurrect and rise up), my love, my fair one, and COME AWAY (yalak, DEPART, VANISH). O my dove, that art in the clefts of the rock (i.e., in Christ), in the secret places of the stairs (lit., the secret of the stairs, like Jacob's ladder that went from Earth to Heaven), let me see thy countenance, let me hear thy voice; for sweet is thy voice, and thy countenance is comely."

I think our Rapture window is while Saturn (the 'third heaven'; Mars, Jupiter and Saturn, II Cor. 12:2) is in Gemini, the twins, where the Bride and Bridegroom (Christ) sit together in heavenly places (i.e., on the ecliptic, the path of the planets).

Saturn is in Gemini now, in the figure of the Bride. Eph. 2:6 says, "And hath raised us up together (sunegeiro, to rouse from death in company with; i.e., to be raptured with the Bride of Christ), and made us sit together in heavenly places (figuratively in Gemini, actually on Saturn, which is now in Gemini) in Christ Jesus."

If you live in the northern hemisphere, as I do. You can go out about 10:30 on a clear night and find Saturn easily. Face east. On the right side of center and part way up, find Orion. It has 4 stars at the outer corners and three in a row in the middle. The 4 stars form a crooked rectangle. The three evenly spaced stars are in Orion's belt. Follow the line made by the two brightest stars in Orion to the left. That next bright star you come to is Saturn. It's in Gemini, where the Bride sits. Saturn looks faintly yellowish and shines with steady non-twinkling light. Farther to the left, you will see Castor and Pollux, the two stars in the heads of the Bride and Bridegroom in Gemini. Castor and Pollux are not as bright as Saturn is now.

Paul was shipwrecked and had spent the winter on the island of Melita, where unhurt, he shook off the viper (symbol of Satan) that came out of the fire. Then Acts 28:11 says, "after three months we DEPARTED in a ship of Alexandria, which had wintered in the isle, whose SIGN WAS CASTOR AND POLLUX" (i.e., Gemini). Why are we given this information? Could it be a clue to that the Rapture will take place in the spring, after the winter is over and gone?

The word translated "departed" is "anago," to bring out, take up. It is from "ana," up, and "ago," to lead, go, lead away. It could easily apply to the Rapture, when we are taken up to Heaven.

Here winter is over and gone, as in Song of Solomon 2:10-14. The ship is of Alexandria (named after Alexander, which means one that assists men).

The Hebrews called Gemini Thaumin, the united. Thaumin, along with the Arabic and Syriac names, carry the idea of completion, like the completion of a betrothal. Castor means the Ruler or Judge. Pollux means who comes to labor and suffer. A star in the foot of Pollux is Al Henah, meaning the hurt or afflicted.

God inspired the drawing up of the first Zodiac and named the stars. Psa 147:4 says, "He telleth the number of the stars; he calleth them all by their names." The one that came to labor and suffer, that will also be the Ruler and Judge, is Christ. The completion of the betrothal is the Rapture, when we will be seated with Him in heavenly places.

The Bride in Gemini is symbolically sitting on Saturn right now. To me, this sign seems to suggest that the Rapture will be this coming spring, or while Saturn is in Gemini.

In mythology, the twins Castor and Pollux helped save the ship Argo from sinking during a storm. This was why the sign of Castor and Pollux was used on the ship Paul was on. This sign was much valued by sailors.

The constellation Argo is a ship. It means the company of travelers, and has a representation of Christ's face on the prow above the water line and the head of a lion as the figurehead above. Symbolically, the company of travelers represents the Bride of Christ about to land in a new place.

To me, it looks like our new place will be His place, Saturn. I hope the Rapture will be this coming spring. Ascension Day would be a great time. Christ, the head of the Body of Christ ascended on that day. Agape

Hamas proposes 10-year truce for Israeli pullback, 1-26-04

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/386849.html

...Abdel Aziz Rantisi told Reuters late Sunday that Hamas had come to the conclusion that it was "difficult to liberate all our land at this stage, so we accept a phased liberation."

"We accept a state in the West Bank, including Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip. We propose a 10-year truce in return for [Israeli] withdrawal and the establishment of a state,"...

Rantisi told Reuters late Sunday any such new proposal would not mean that Hamas recognized Israel or spell the end of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

Incoming email, Re: I think this article shows who the ten kings (kingdoms) are.

http://chn-net.com/school/bonus/ten_kings_report.html God Bless

My reply

I don't agree with Sal that the 10 kings are all leaders of Moslem nations. I think the 10 kings will rule over all the Earth under the Beast and False Prophet.

Nebuchadnezzar was over the first world empire, Babylon. Daniel 2:36-39 says, "This is the dream; and we will tell the interpretation thereof before the king. Thou, O king, art a king of kings: for the God of heaven hath given thee a kingdom, power, and strength, and glory. And WHERESOEVER THE CHILDREN OF MEN DWELL (i.e., anywhere in the known world), the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath MADE THEE RULER OVER THEM ALL. Thou art this head of gold. And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee, and another third kingdom of brass, which shall bear RULE OVER ALL THE EARTH."

All four empires represented by the image in Nebuchadnezzar's dream, Babylon, Media-Persia, Greece and Rome, stand for world empires. They covered large areas of the then-known world.

I think the revived Roman Empire, Ecclesiastic Rome, covers the entire Earth. The word catholic means universal. The kings of the ten toes come out of the revived Roman Empire, but the toes have in them both the iron of Rome and the clay of other nations.

Zech. 5:5-11 ties the last world empire, Ecclesiastic Rome, into the same package with the first world empire, Babylon. I believe that the "great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth," housing Ecclesiastic Rome of Rev. 17:18, will move to the literal Babylon of Rev. 18. In Rev. 17:3, John said, "So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness (eremos, lonesome, waste, desert, desolate, solitary; i.e., the almost uninhabited Babylon, Iraq): and I saw a woman (i.e., the world church) sit upon a scarlet coloured beast (the great red dragon of Rev. 12:3), full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns."

The 6th head is the Beast of Rev. 13:2-10. "And ALL THAT DWELL UPON THE EARTH SHALL WORSHIP HIM, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb" (Rev. 13:8). This includes Muslims and people of other non-Christian religions. The 7th head is the False Prophet of Rev. 13:11-18.

Zech. 5:5-11 says, "the angel that talked with me went forth, and said unto me, Lift up now thine eyes, and see what is this that goeth forth. And I said, What is it? And he said, This is an ephah (largest wheat measure, i.e., the world church) that goeth forth. He said moreover, This is their resemblance THROUGH ALL THE EARTH. And, behold, there was lifted up a talent of lead: and this is a woman (religious group, i.e., the world church) that sitteth in the midst of the ephah. And he said, This is wickedness. And he cast it into the midst of the ephah; and he cast the weight of lead upon the mouth (i.e., that speaks for the world church) thereof. Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came out two women (i.e., two religious groups), and the wind was in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork (a migrating bird): and they lifted up the ephah (world church) between the earth and the heaven. Then said I to the angel that talked with me, Whither do these bear the ephah? And he said unto me, To build it an house in the land of Shinar (Babylon, Gen. 11:2; Dan. 1:1,2): and it shall be established, and set there upon her own base" (the foundation of the Tower of Babel).

When the Rapture takes place, the 10 kings have no kingdom, but they will receive it during the Tribulation. Rev. 17:12-14 says, "the ten horns which thou sawest are TEN KINGS, WHICH HAVE RECEIVED NO KINGDOM AS YET; but receive power as kings one hour (the Tribulation, Rev. 3:10) with the beast (the beast out of the sea, i.e., nations, of Rev. 13;1). These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and THEY (the raptured Bride of Christ) THAT ARE WITH HIM (Christ) ARE CALLED, AND CHOSEN, AND FAITHFUL."

At a meeting in San Francisco, where One World Government was discussed, Gorbachev was given the task of dividing the world into 10 regions. I think the leaders of these 10 divisions will be the 10 kings represented by the 10 toes in Nebuchadnezzar's image. The following was on The Cutting Edge Ministries.
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...the New World Order Plan has divided the world into 10 Super Nations (See NEWS1002), and has nearly completed the reorganization. Briefly, the entire world has been reorganized into 10 Super Nations, as listed below:

10 SPHERES OF INFLUENCE --NATIONAL REORGANIZATION

l. North America
2. Western Europe
3. Japan
4. Australia, South Africa, and the rest of the market-economy of the developed world
5. Eastern Europe, including Russia
6. Latin America
7. North Africa and the Middle East
8. Tropical Africa
9. South and Southeast Asia
10. China

Incoming email

I am a Catholic and one thing I love about my faith -- we don't put down the faith of other people. I am thankful to be where I am. Who are you people? What gives you the right to put down men of God? You will answer to the one true God if you get to see Him. Educate yourself about our faith with an open mind with eyes that see and ears that hear.

My reply

> > we don't put down the faith of other people.

That's true. The Pope has worshipped with other religions. He even kissed the Koran, the so-called holy book of the Muslims. What do you think of that?

Added later: Here is the Pope receiving the mark of the adorers of Shiva.

I FOLLOW THE BIBLE; WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY?

Rev. 2:18-29 is Jesus' message to the church in Thyatira, which means dominating female. A woman represents a church group. This woman is the largest church in the world. It is dominate. It is catholic, which means universal.

Rev 2:18-29 says, "And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass; I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first. Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel (meaning unmarried), which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery (i.e., join) with her into GREAT TRIBULATION (i.e., when the False Prophet rules), except they repent of their deeds. And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known THE DEPTHS OF SATAN, AS THEY SPEAK; I will put upon you none other burden. But that which ye have already hold fast till I come. And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father. And I will give him the morning star. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches."

Who is Jezebel? Could she be an apparition? What are "the depths of Satan, as they speak"?

When the world church is set up, the headquarters will be moved to Babylon, in the land of Shinar, which is now Iraq. Where do you think that headquarters will be moved from?

Zech. 5:5-11 says, "Then the angel that talked with me went forth, and said unto me, Lift up now thine eyes, and see what is this that goeth forth. And I said, What is it? And he said, This is an ephah (the largest wheat measure, i.e., the world church) that goeth forth. He said moreover, This is their resemblance through all the earth. And, behold, there was lifted up a talent of lead: and this is a woman (a religious group) that sitteth in the midst of the ephah (the world church). And he said, This is wickedness. And he cast it into the midst of the ephah; and he cast the weight of lead upon the mouth thereof. Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came out two women (two religious groups), and the wind was in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork: and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heaven. Then said I to the angel that talked with me, Whither do these bear the ephah (world church)? And he said unto me, To build it an house in the land of Shinar (Babylon, Gen. 11:2; Dan. 1:1,2): and it shall be established, and set there upon her own base" (the foundation of the Tower of Babel).

Rev. 17:1-18 tells us more about this woman, this world church that will move its headquarters to Babylon. It says, "And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters (people and nations, v. 15): With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication (joined with), and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication. So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness (i.e., Babylon in the desert): and I saw a woman (the world church) sit upon a scarlet coloured beast (i.e., the 'great red dragon,' Rev. 12:3), full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration. And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns. The beast that thou sawest (the dragon, Satan) was (in Judas Iscariot), and is not (in man now); and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition (the False Prophet of Rev. 13:11-18, 'the son of perdition,' II Thess. 2:3): and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was (in Judas), and is not (in man now), and yet is (exists). And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains (symbol of kingdoms), on which the woman sitteth.

"And there are seven kings: five are fallen (Babylon, Media-Persia, Greece and Imperial Rome), and one is (Ecclesiastical Rome), and the other (the False Prophet of Rev. 13:11-18) is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space (the Great Tribulation that is to be shortened or no flesh would be saved, Mt. 24:21,22). And the beast (red dragon, Satan) that was (in Judas), and is not (in man now), even he (Satan) is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition (the False Prophet, I Thess. 2:3). And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet (at the time of the Rapture); but receive power as kings one hour (the Tribulation, Rev. 3:10) with the beast. These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they (the raptured ones) that are with him (Christ) are called, and chosen, and faithful. And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire. For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled. And the woman (religious group) which thou sawest is that great city (Vatican City?), which reigneth over the kings of the earth."

The first Rapture takes place before the Tribulation, Rev. 4:1. On the Day of God's Wrath, the second Rapture will take place. Rev. 18:4,5 calls them out of Babylon. Jesus says, "Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities." After that, the asteroid of Rev. 8:10 will destroy Babylon. Rev. 18:20 says, "Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her."

Zech. 5:4 says, "I will bring it (the binary asteroid, the curse) forth, saith the LORD of hosts, and it shall enter into the house (i.e., at Babylon) of the thief (the False Prophet of Rev. 13:11-18), and into the house of him that sweareth falsely by my name (claims infallibility, the Beast of Rev. 13:2-10): and it shall remain in the midst of his house, and shall consume it with the timber thereof and the stones thereof." Agape

Incoming email, Re: IN THAT DAY

From: Dale Tooley

On at least 85 occasions the words " In that day", occur in the writings of a good number of the Old Testament prophets. What are we to make of them? Do we have an expression used for anything that is future? Or do we have a pointer to a period in unison that is especially significant? In studying carefully all the Scriptures containing the words "In that day" it will be seen that, in every instance, they refer to God's coming special day, the "Day of Grace", that is this present Gospel Age. Now we have an important key to their understanding and can avoid putting them where they were never intended to go.

Because they have their fulfilment as parts of God's plan for this Day of Grace they refer more to the initiation of the Gospel Age, often linked or expressing specific events that act as a trigger to lay foundations for the establishing of the Gospel. So there is, many times, an ongoing fulfilment that is worked out and stretching over the entire length of this New Covenant Age.

Another fact that can be determined by a study of prophecies attached to the words "In that day" is that they are pictorial , meaning that they paint a picture that has deep spiritual significance. When applying spiritual understanding to Scripture pictures it is important to understand that the Holy Spirit wants us to get an overall impression from the symbol and not dissect that picture to find separate significance in every detail.

Equally important is to realize that the Old Testament prophets gave their prophetic utterances about the New Covenant in mystery form as is witnessed to by a number of New Testament Scriptures. To confirm this thought I call on two of them:

Now to Him who is able to establish you according to my Gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery which has been kept secret for long ages past, but now is manifested, and by the Scriptures of the prophets , according to the commandment of the eternal God….

......that by revelation there was known to me the mystery, as I wrote before in brief. And by referring to this, when you read, you can understand my insight into the mystery of Christ, which in other generations was not made known......and to bring to light what is the administration of the mystery, which for ages had been hidden in God, who created all things.
(Romans 16:25&26 and Ephesians 3:3-6-9)

So in accepting a pictorial understanding of the In that day prophecies we are not minimizing prophecy and making it ethereal. To the contrary we are agreeing with Paul and all the New Testament writers that the issues at stake are vast and eternal but largely unseen. With the Holy Spirit's help I believe the meaning of the prophecies will become clear to the reader when linked together in a meaningful way, considering the teachings of the true interpreters of Old Testament prophecy, Jesus and the New Testament Apostles.

My reply

> > In studying carefully all the Scriptures containing the words "In that day" it will be seen that, in every instance, they refer to God's coming special day, the "Day of Grace", that is this present Gospel Age. Many scriptures speak of "that day" as the Day of the Lord that is the Day of God's Wrath at the end of the shortened Tribulation.

Isa 2:11,12,17-19 says, "The lofty looks of man shall be humbled, and the haughtiness of men shall be bowed down, and the LORD alone shall be exalted IN THAT DAY. For the DAY OF THE LORD of hosts (Christ, Isa. 44:6) shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty...The LORD alone shall be exalted IN THAT DAY. And the idols he shall utterly abolish. And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth."

Rev. 6:15-17 speaks of this day. It says, "the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: For THE GREAT DAY OF HIS WRATH is come; and who shall be able to stand?"

Isa 24:21 says, "it shall come to pass IN THAT DAY, that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth."

Isa 27:1 says, "IN THAT DAY the LORD with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent (Satan), even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon (i.e., the great red dragon) that is in the sea" (symbol of nations and people, Rev. 17:15). After the False Prophet, the 7th head of the great red dragon, is deposed, Satan will operate on his own as "the eighth" (Rev. 17:11).

Eze 38:19,20 says, "in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely IN THAT DAY there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel; So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence (paniym, face; i.e., the Sign of the Son of Man, Mt. 24:30), and the mountains (i.e., the 2 pieces of the binary asteroid) shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground."

Eze 39:11 says, "it shall come to pass IN THAT DAY, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel."

Amos 8:3 says, "the songs of the temple shall be howlings IN THAT DAY, saith the Lord GOD: there shall be many dead bodies in every place; they shall cast them forth with silence."

Amo 8:9 says, "it shall come to pass IN THAT DAY, saith the Lord GOD, that I will cause the sun to go down at noon, and I will darken the earth in the clear day."

Zec 12:3 says, "IN THAT DAY will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it."

Zec 12:9 And it shall come to pass IN THAT DAY, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem."

> > Equally important is to realize that the Old Testament prophets gave their prophetic utterances about the New Covenant in mystery form as is witnessed to by a number of New Testament Scriptures. To confirm this thought I call on two of them:

> > Now to Him who is able to establish you according to my Gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery which has been kept secret for long ages past, but now is manifested, and by the Scriptures of the prophets , according to the commandment of the eternal God….

> > ......that by revelation there was known to me the mystery, as I wrote before in brief. And by referring to this, when you read, you can understand my insight into the mystery of Christ, which in other generations was not made known......and to bring to light what is the administration of the mystery, which for ages had been hidden in God, who created all things.
(Romans 16:25&26 and Ephesians 3:3-6-9)

This mystery is "That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel" (Eph. 3:6). Jew and Gentile believers become the church, which is the Body of Christ. "There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord, one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all" (Eph. 4:4-6). Agape

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A Muslim who escaped Islam and is living to tell about it. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/print.php3?what=news&id=56867

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